"Eskimo Diet" Lacks Support For Better Cardiovascular Health 166
jones_supa (887896) writes Monthly Prescribing Reference reports that the "Eskimo diet" hypothesis, suggested as a factor in the alleged low incidence of coronary artery disease (CAD) in Greenland Eskimos, seems not to be supported in the literature, according to a metastudy published in the Canadian Journal of Cardiology (abstract). Researchers found that only one study directly assessed the prevalence of CAD or CAD risk factors, and that study showed that CAD morbidity was similar among Inuit and American and European populations. In most studies, the prevalence of CAD was similar for Greenland Eskimos and Canadian and Alaskan Inuit and for non-Eskimo populations. The original studies from the 1970s that formed the basis of the supposed cardioprotective effect of the Eskimo diet did not examine the prevalence of CAD. "The totality of reviewed evidence leads us to the conclusion that Eskimos have a similar prevalence of CAD as non-Eskimo populations," the authors write. "To date, more than 5,000 papers have been published studying the alleged beneficial properties of omega-3 fatty acids not to mention the billion dollar industry producing and selling fish oil capsules based on a hypothesis that was questionable from the beginning."
Eskimo?! (Score:1)
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from wikipedia
The primary reason that the peoples consider Eskimo derogatory is the questionable but widespread perception[10][13][14][15] that in Algonkian languages it means "eaters of raw meat."[1][16][17] One Cree speaker suggested the original word that became corrupted to Eskimo might indeed have been askamiciw (which means "he eats it raw"), and the Inuit are referred to in some Cree texts as askipiw (which means "eats something raw").[16][18][19][20]
So I guess in this context it is not racist.
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Just you wait till it hits you that in most languages that take their word for "slave" from Latin, it comes from a word used to describe half the people in Europe [etymonline.com] - including yours.
And let's not even get into slavish or slovenly and what those mean.
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Racist By Default.
Germans, like all Europeans which are all fucking inbreds ...That privilege makes all whites racist by default and the only good racist is a dead one.
Irony... like goldy or silvery, but made of iron?
Re:Eskimo?! (Score:5, Informative)
by "suze", from http://old.qi.com/talk/viewtop... [qi.com]
further in http://old.qi.com/talk/viewtop... [qi.com]
Wikipedia is not informative on why/where it is considered offensive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org] But it has a nice map of the tribes.
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Alaskas perspective: http://www.uaf.edu/anlc/resour... [uaf.edu]
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Well of course they never considered themselves a group. The indians were also never a single group.
When you do not know about the larger world and are ignorant of people wildly different from you you self divided into groups based on smaller differences.
It does not matter that Eskimo people never considered themselves one people, now that they have been catalogued, they need one.
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I find the British / English class system funny as well, where as people prefer being called British as it gives a sense of being better than English.
This [youtube.com] might help.
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Wikipedia is not informative on why/where it is considered offensive.
The sad thing is, even in Canada many people don't realize how hurtful the "eskimo" epithet can be. To help spread awareness of the issue, I'm planning on partnering with my friend Dan Snyder to launch a public outreach program by buying the offensively ungrammatical Toronto Maple Leafs and rechristening them the Eskimos. Before every ice-hockey bout, we'll have a bunch of skating clowns attired in traditional garb and armed with harpoons chase down our mascot, Eskimodo the humpbacked whale, which should no
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The sad thing is, even in Canada many people don't realize how hurtful the "eskimo" epithet can be.
The politically correct reference in Canada seems to be 'First Nation'. That gets around upsetting one group by referring to them with the name of another.
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No, “First Nations” does not refer to Inuit peoples, nor does it refer to the Metis. These three groups collectively make up what are called Aboriginal peoples in Canada by the constitution act of 1982. The other broad term you might use if you are not sure about, or are talking about several sub-categories or nations, is indigenous people(s). Or you know, just ask people how they want to be referred to.
"Indian" still has weight as a legal term in Canada because it is the word that was generally
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Attempts to create PC terms often end up offending people anyway.
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It's common to use words in foreign languages (speaking as a US native) to indicate things other than their English translations. For example, in WWII the "Royal Navy" was understood to be the Brits, while the "Royal Navy" was understood to be the Italians, except that when you write "Royal Navy" in Italian it comes out "Regia Marina," which is different enough. Similarly, nobody would misunderstand "Luftwaffe" in the original German, but if you translate it to English you wind up wondering whose "Air Fo
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People that name diet fads aren't concerned about the races they offend.
Or the people they give heart disease to.
Well, there goes... (Score:2)
half the arguments people use in support of wacky theories like the paleo diet. Or theories like carbohydrates causing heart disease independent of body weight.
Amazingly, a single study counts when it does support their claims, but when it doesn't, you could point them to a thousand studies and they'd just say it's a global medical conspiracy.
I'm afraid you're wrong. (Score:1)
The big change in western diets, where fat was demonised and everyone started stuffing themselves with vast amounts of carbohydrates, happened in the mid-80s.
So comparisons with western diets from the 70s has no relevance to modern diets. The fact they made that comparison suggests they are either rather stupid, or are being deceptive.
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So comparisons with western diets from the 70s has no relevance to modern diets.
The craze actually started in 1977 in the US. Another part of the Low Fat, (very) High Sugars (primarily glucose) diet is the idea that unsaturated fatty acids are somehow better than saturated fatty acids. Which may well be where the omega-3 comes from.
Another possible f
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Actually amylopectin and amylose would comprise the majority of these "vast amounts". Sugars have the odd property that they don't tend to taste of anything when several are joined together. (Not even all maltodextrins taste sweet. But the human digestive s
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Here is the article:
http://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/polop... [ctvnews.ca]
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These are not people that understand science. They think it is a big shopping-mall where they can chose what they like and ignore anything they do not like.
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Meta-studies rarely have any scientific validity though.
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The alyernate to healty or good for you is not unhealthy or bad for you.
The wacky part seems to be the unsupported claims of benifits. While the supposed advantages may not be present, it doesn't neccessarily make it worse than other foods or diets- just different. Its like certified organic claiming to be better than non certified organic despite the only differences in the food's life may be someone paying to get certified (and yes, i actually know a farmer who had to create a shell company to get some ac
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Organic can be covered in pesticides too. The difference is the types. However, no peer reviewed scientific study has ever shown that organic is better or worse than thier nonorganic counter parts from a nutricional standpoint.
Whackey indeed.
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When it is promoted as better or healthy for some line of ailnents. Just like organic.
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One thing that "paleo advocates" tend to agree on is avoiding highly processed "food". Even though they may disagree about exactly what foods should or should not be eaten. A salad, even if made up entirely of fruits and vegetables which existed nowhere in
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1. The 'paleo diet' as it's usually described has absolutely no relationship to what our paleolithic ancestors actually ate. See this talk by an actual anthropologist on the issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
2. Even if it did, there's no evidence to suggest that adopting a paleo diet is healthier than simply following the nutritional, exercise, and lifestyle recommendations laid out by modern science. In fact, it's probably far less healthy.
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The problem is that the low fat and (very) high sugars diet has never been supported by actual science in the first place. Indeed plenty of what's been promoted as "healthy" for the last 30 odd years is at odds with chemistry, biology or both. Even some of the parts which arn't outright quackary are dubious at best.
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Exactly. Some people think that just because you can buy something from the supermarket, it's sanctioned by modern medicine. Doctors have been screaming at people for years to lower sugar intake. You don't need to eliminate it LHCF-style, but most people consume way too much.
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LCHF*-style
low carb and low PUFA vs high Omega-3? (Score:5, Interesting)
A diet with all its componets is very different than supplement pills.
My guess (without reading 5000 papers) is that if there is some kind of benefit from an "Eskimo diet" it would be from it being devoid of flour and sugar, and generally low in carbohydrates and industrially processed polyunsaturated fats.
My personal experience is that by focusing on eating natural sources of fats and eliminating most carbohydrates (especially refined carbohydrates) for the last 8 months, I've lost a lot of exceess fat (60 pounds so far) and gained enough excess energy that I'm now regularly running in 5ks and even started competing in triathlons.
I take vitamins because they are relatively cheap, but I'm not sure I see the point of fish-oil capsules, especially with the bad breath and indigestion that comes with them.
As for CAD risk, I'm not sure. But by adopting a low-carb/high-fat diet (LCHF or "keto"), my cholesterol numbers (for what they're worth) have improved dramatically. My HDL is higher by a few points and my triglycerides are lower by more than 20 points, compared to when I used to be on a statin.
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How do you know it's because you're consuming less carbohydrates, rather than just because you're consuming fewer calories?
Re:low carb and low PUFA vs high Omega-3? (Score:5, Informative)
That's a good question.
In the past, I've tried to merely restrict calories and eat what the food pyramid recommends... plenty of "healthy whole grains" and limiting fats. I lost a tiny bit of weight and was miserable and hungry - and my cholesterol numbers actually got worse. I went to the gym every day but was tired and listless mosf of the time. And as soon as I eased up, I gained even more weight (over the equilibrium weight I was at before starting the calorie restriction).
If you look at how metabolism works, fructose is only processed in the liver and the result is serum triglycerides. Dietary fats, however (at least as I understand it) are quickly taken up by chylomicrons and delivered to cells throughout the body, so they don't contribute much to trigylcerides as measured in the standard lipid panel. This is at least how I undersand it.
My personal experience is just an n=1, but within the low-carb community, the predictions were that by adopting a an LCHF diet, I would lose weight, not be hungry but eat less, feel more energetic, and that my lipid panels would improve. I've found all of these things happened, as well as odd little things like no longer having indigestion and just having a desire to exercise and be more active.
Do I KNOW this is from an LCHF way of eating? Not with absolute certainty, of course. But my experiences match the predictions and when I do endulge in a large amount of carbohydrates, I tend to feel not-so-great for a couple days.
Frankly, I'm just thankful to have found a way of eating that allows me to lose the weight I've carried for decades while allowing me to be more energetic, and with all that, not suffer from hunger or feelings of deprivation. A year ago, I had conceded to my best friend that I would always be fat but I could at least be active and fat (I was already bike-commuting and hiking). But after a mere 8 months of this way of eating... eating "as much as I feel like eating", I now weigh less than I have in almost 2 decades and I've started racing (albiet slowly) in 5Ks and triathlons. And note, I adopted the diet and started losing weight (about 30 pounds) before I started any of the running.
Maybe it's a "fad diet", I just eat like diabetics were told to eat in the early 1900s (https://archive.org/details/diabeticcookeryr00oppeiala) and how like most people were told to eat to lose weight until the 1960s or so. It's essentially "meat, eggs, and green veg" but avoid sugars and starches and most fruits. And I've never felt so good as an adult.
So my n=1 is not "science" and maybe it's all placebo, but if so, it's a pretty darned good placebo. I'm down 60 pounds I never thought I could lose and doing crazy things like triathlons, which were also unimaginable, even a year ago.
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I'm male. I'm 5'9" and weigh 118-120 lbs. I eat mostly bread and vegetables, rice, potatoes, with some meat and fruit. I can't stand most fat (most fatty acids taste like something rotting to me) and so I tend to have a very low fat intake. HCLF, effectively. I tend not to feel hunger much, so I use alarms to remind me when to eat. I'm active, I have stamina, and my biggest problem is keeping away from b
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"I'm male. I'm 5'9" and weigh 118-120 lbs. I eat mostly bread and vegetables, rice, potatoes, with some meat and fruit. I can't stand most fat (most fatty acids taste like something rotting to me) and so I tend to have a very low fat intake. HCLF, effectively. I tend not to feel hunger much, so I use alarms to remind me when to eat." :)
Are you about 25 years old and living in Europe?
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Let me tell you the long version of my one month diet. The short version is I lost 30 pounds in 31 days, and never felt any different.
On January 1st, I started a month-long diet plan. I had scrambled eggs in the morning, with mushrooms, onions, red bell peppers, and breakfast sausage mixed in them. I sauted the vegetables first in butter, added the sausage, and then the eggs, with some salt and seasoning. I made four days worth at a time, using eight eggs and half a package of sausage. So on average I had t
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That's why from the start it was only going to be one month. My kidneys are healthy, and can work overtime for a few weeks. With the right precaution, this isn't a problem.
Also, I had a doctor appointment already set for the first week of February, with lab tests (urine and blood) done the last week of January. So I had that as a function check. When I saw the doctor, I told him about the diet, and he checked my lab results. He said he could tell I wasn't lying, as many do about diets, because my ketone lev
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How do you know it's because you're consuming less carbohydrates, rather than just because you're consuming fewer calories?
These are not alternatives mechanisms, they are cause and effect. The theory of "low carb diets" is that they reduce your appetite, resulting in fewer calories consumed.
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The theory of "low carb diets" is that they reduce your appetite, resulting in fewer calories consumed.
This has been my personal experience. I started eating "low-carb/high-fat" last September and just crossed the -60 pounds mark. I still marvel at how I'm just not very hungry most of the time, even after missing meals or exercising for several hours... or how I can, indeed, go ride my bike vigorously for a few hours before eating any breakfast.
I haven't counted calories at all, so from an objective sense, I can't give precise amount of wha I used to eat compared to what I eat now. However I'm certain I eat less from the mere fact that now I often miss meals (from not being hungry enough to bother) when before I might even eat 2 lunches, and snack much less than before (evidenced by the fact that I don't buy snacky foods much any more - when for example I was subscribed to Amazon to have boxes of KIND bars delivered to both my home and office). One of the best parts is that I can now take long bike rides after work (I've been a bike-commuter for a few years) and not have to rush home to eat dinner from crazy hunger.
I believe the theory about low-carb and hunger is that carbohydrates stimulate insulin production. This causes cells in the body (fat and muscle) to take up blood glucose more than they would otherwise, thereby lowering blood glucose. This dynamic system has delays, so blood glucose will drop below the "normal" level and as a result you get really hungry in order to raise it back up again. As a result, you either eat more or feel lethargic due to lack of energy. This may explain the need/desire to snack between breakfast and lunch and after lunch in order to stave off the fatigue and "crash" that most people experience at these times.
Some people go a bit nuts when I say I can eat as much as I want with this way of eating and still lose weight - as if they think I believe I'm violating the laws of physics. But the reality is that of course I'm obeying the laws of thermodymics - it's just that when I eat a diet low in carbohydrates, I just don't want to eat very much. And how can that be a bad thing? I'm getting fitter, feeling better, and all without being hungry or otherwise suffering.
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I haven't counted calories at all, so from an objective sense, I can't give precise amount of wha I used to eat compared to what I eat now.
I've tried both balanced calorie-counting diets and LCHF diets. I can vouch that the latter works FAR better.
I was able to lose weight on a balanced diet, and being a chemist who is a bit OCD I measured EVERYTHING that went into my mouth. What I will tell you is that while I did lose weight, I was always hungry. I was eating six small meals a day and while I was sitting at my desk at work I'd always be looking over to my bag of food just willing the clock to move so that I could eat my next meal. In the
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The disturbing implication here is that if switching from a high-carbohydrate Western diet can fix br
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The problem is that when it comes to reducing appetite, it's hard to separate the psychological factors from the physiological ones.
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Thanks, that's an encouraging and illuminating insight on the low-card/high fat approach. I think I'll give it a try and see how it works out for me. I've lost some weight after resuming regular gym attendance, but I've been finding it really hard to stay under my calorie restrictions when I get pangs of hunger, low energy, and moodswings. Perhaps limiting the carbs to temper the peaks/valleys of my bloodsugar level is just what I need.
Re:low carb and low PUFA vs high Omega-3? (Score:4, Interesting)
I take vitamins because they are relatively cheap, but I'm not sure I see the point of fish-oil capsules, especially with the bad breath and indigestion that comes with them.
If you're getting bad breath from your fish-oil capsules, it may be that they contain oil that's _rancid_ or oxidized.
Bust open a capsule, if it stinks, it's rancid and you shouldn't be eating it anymore than you should be eating rotten fish. Or expecting it to convey health benefits anymore than rotten fish would. Fresh fish doesn't stink - might just have a mild fish smell. Same goes for fresh fish oil. If you eat sashimi or ikura you'd know what I mean.
The big problem is it seems that rancid/oxidized fish oil is not that rare. That's why I don't have that much confidence in those fish oil studies - I don't see much checking on the oxidation/rancidity of the oil.
So it may be that fish oil is good for you, but only if it hasn't gone bad.
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I'm not saying you should eat stinking fish oil tablets, but them stinking should not affect their effect on the body.
Citation please? What makes you so confident that's true? Fish oil oxidizes easily.
The smell is at least partly due to oxidation: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pu... [nih.gov]
Effects of oxidized fish oil:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pu... [nih.gov] (affects lipid profile)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pu... [nih.gov] (but does not affect oxidative stress markers)
See also:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pu... [nih.gov] (fish oil easily oxidized)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pu... [nih.gov]
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I don't have a citation (well, unless "personal communcation" is accepted). It was stated in a presentation about stability of fish oils, but that is not solid enough for the confidence in my original post. I am sorry for that.
With regard to the manuscript yo
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A diet with all its components is very different than supplement pills.
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Indeed so! In fact the lesson learned thus far from hundreds of epidemiological studies (with published papers in the tens of thousands) over the last 30 years or so is that no dietary supplement pill of any kind offers any benefit to the general population. Vitamin and mineral supplements provide benefit only when the taker is actually deficient in a nutrient being provided, and deficiency in any nutrient (but one*) is rare in wealthy nations.
*That one is vitamin D, the only nutrient for which you can make
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"That one is vitamin D, the only nutrient for which you can make a case for taking a supplement."
Or, just spend a total of 20 minutes a day in the sun.
Fad diets based on new "science" (Score:2)
after so much BS over the years, I think we should disregard any further studies proclaiming great health benefits of (____) and just rely on common sense.
Common sense tells me that the best things to eat for an animal species is what it's evolved to eat in its natural habitat. Pomegranates might be awesome food but not for lions.
For humans, that would be 2 million years of eating nuts and fruits and clams and fish and some red meat on occasion.
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Common sense tells me that the best things to eat for an animal species is what it's evolved to eat in its natural habitat.
This sounds like the foundation of the "Paleo" diet. And while this makes sense, I'm not sure there have been many good studies demonstrating the benefits of this approach. Part of the problem is establishing what "paleo" humans actually ate.
For example:
For humans, that would be 2 million years of eating nuts and fruits and clams and fish and some red meat on occasion.
This is an assumption, and maybe a good one. But look at societies like the Masai. They're fairly "aboriginal" and eat mostly red meat, blood, and milk and very little plant matter (they apparently consider eating plants a sign of weakness). Other aboriginal societies live on diets dominated by coconuts and plants.
I think the problem today is that there are few sources of "original" food sources available. As a species we've domesticated most of the plants and animals we eat, changing them over time. So it's hard to rely on the concept of "eat what we ate a million years ago". The best we can do to determine optimal nutrtion now is try to conduct solid double-blind studies based on the foods we have available. Unfortunately that is expensive to do and most of the money in nutrition research comes from the food industry, which has a vested interest in the outcomes of the research they fund.
That said, you probably can't go too wrong by avoiding processed and refined foods, eating animals that eat what they naturally eat, and eating plants that are grown with as few chemical interventions as possible.
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I agree.
I have been eating "low-carb/high-fat" over the last 8 months, with a focus on natural and unprocessed foods (so essentially, meat, eggs, and green veggies). This fits well with people who eat paleo. The biggest divergence is that I use butter, cheese, and dark chocolate and try to avoid the moderately carb-rich foods that paleo people eat, like sweet-potatoes, and highly-carb rich foods like honey.
But again, I think you can't go too wrong by eating a diet of mostly unprocessed and refined foods,
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I sort of thought that we knew what they ate, and it was raw meat. You occasionally hear about people taking up "Paleo" diets and what they means is they eat raw meat exclusively, sometimes in any level of rot.
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The TEDxOU talk Debunking the Paleo Diet [youtube.com] is pretty interesting from the standpoint of determining what our ancestors actually consumed, though it doesn't prove anything on whether the actual "Paleo Diet" rules are good or bad. It's given by an archaeological scientist who studies ancient health/diet. She points out a few examples of foods which didn't exist when our ancestors were around that are commonly included in the Paleo Diet, which is interesting.
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The other elephant in the room is your genetics. Your ancestors may have done well on milk products, your neighbor - not so much. It's hard to determine what what your particular body's optimal requirements are. We're getting there, but it's going to be a while since we basically don't know jack about nutrition.
Not to mention that, even with our BPA infused, high fructose corn syrup laden, human growth hormone injected and antibiotic treated food supply, we're still leading longer and healthy lives than
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The biggest problem with most governement sponsored nutritial advice is that it tends to be "one size fits all". Even including such daftness as people actually diagnosed with type 2 diabeties should eat vast quantities of glucose. When it would make rather more sense to tell anyone who shows signs of "insulin resistance" to cut back on this, even if their HBa1C is curre
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Under a thousand years was enough to provide heart protection against a diet heavy in salted meat on the russian steppes. If the selective pressure is strong enough 50-70 generations of selection will deal with a lot of challenges.
"Empty Food" probably can't be dealt with very well tho (i.e. just calories and nothing else).
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We are in amidst the largest uncontrolled diet experiment and along with a computer revolution where we store every minute piece of data. Maybe we should shelve these expensive double blind experiments and just analyze the cheap data out there of what people are eating and their health status. Taking a picture of every meal with your phone diet is a thing and millions of people are collecting data on their food habits.
Doesn't work very well. You end up getting lots of the wrong data. You have to think before you start researching. The obeservational approach has got us in the pickle that we are in now. Unless you are very, very careful with your statistics and even more careful about your conclusions, observational studies are pretty much worthless no matter how many variables you might collect.
Garbage In, Garbage Out (literally and figuratively in this case.)
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The BMI idea was never intended to be applied applied to individuals in the first place. It's a tool which is being misused!
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The whole "calorie" idea is probably the biggest piece of junk in the whole mess that is nutrition. In practice you can't even measure either "in" or "out" with anything like a useful precision. With quoted "energy values" being more meanignful to a steam engine than a mammal. The other complications include that proteins and fats are "construction materials" for animal cells; adsorbsion in the small intestine is an active process with the needs of the body being a f
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My pet theory:
A long time ago, there were foods that were easy to get, and foods that were hard to get. We evolved to be unexcited about the easy-to-get food, since we were going to eat that anyway, since we were hungry, and to desire the hard-to-get food. Our ideal diets would include a lot of the easy-to-get, and some of the hard-to-get (probably more than we evolved getting, but not much more).
Fast-forward to modern times, when those of us in developed countries can get pretty much whatever food w
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Yes, and many of those studies confirmed the beneficial effects of omega-3 essential fatty acids. Many of these later studies focused on the Mediterranean diet.
Furthermore, the omega-3 essential fatty acids are not called essential just for fun and profit. They are proven to be needed by the human body, in dosages that most
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The term "omega-3" covers a wide variety of fatty acids anyway. Alpha-Linolenic acid is one specific fatty acid, Which is specifically omega-3(cis), omega-6(cis) and omega-9(cis).
Also chemists tend to count from the "alpha end" of such molecules. Thus
Captain Obvious Science Team strikes again! (Score:1)
NEWSFLASH! JUST IN!
Classic Eskimo diet only suitable for classic eskimo climate!
Brilliant new scientist team finds out that 10 bazillion calories-per-day and lets-eat-tons-of-raw-meat-because-we-have-no-other-source-of-micronutrient-iron-and-vitamin-c-out-here-in-a-countryside-made-of-pure-ice escimo diet suitable for an arctic climate with regular temperatures of -30 Celsius and lower actually isn't suitable or very healthy at temperatures around +15C and raises risk of CADs.
Gees, what an insight. How woul
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Change of diet in the Eskimo population? (Score:3)
In 2003, a thorough analysis of the incidence and available mortality statistics among Inuit populations in Greenland, Canada and Alaska by Bjerregaard et al, also concluded that the totality of evidence from various Northern areas makes a strong argument for high presence of CVD in Eskimos (Appendix A in Supplementary Materials).
Is the current Eskimo diet the same as the traditional Eskimo diet?
Do the Inuits in Greenland still eat blubber and not eat pizza, sugary drinks, hamburgers and chocolate whatsoever.
If saturated fat CVD theory were right, the Eskimo diet would have significantly more CVD than the general population. However, it seems about the same. So, the saturated fats is bad for you part is still questionable even. Now, the whole Omega-3 is heart healthy is the one being put on question.
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Is the current Eskimo diet the same as the traditional Eskimo diet?
Do the Inuits in Greenland still eat blubber and not eat pizza, sugary drinks, hamburgers and chocolate whatsoever.
Answer, I don't believe they have a pizza parlor, but they do eat processed foods now.
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In 2003, a thorough analysis of the incidence and available mortality statistics among Inuit populations in Greenland, Canada and Alaska by Bjerregaard et al, also concluded that the totality of evidence from various Northern areas makes a strong argument for high presence of CVD in Eskimos (Appendix A in Supplementary Materials).
Is the current Eskimo diet the same as the traditional Eskimo diet?
Do the Inuits in Greenland still eat blubber and not eat pizza, sugary drinks, hamburgers and chocolate whatsoever.
If saturated fat CVD theory were right, the Eskimo diet would have significantly more CVD than the general population. However, it seems about the same. So, the saturated fats is bad for you part is still questionable even. Now, the whole Omega-3 is heart healthy is the one being put on question.
And this is the problem with Doctors doing these studies. They don't believe in the low carb diet so they try to apply standard dietary rules to it. They think "A little pizza doesn't count" As anyone on a low carb diet knows... you can be on low carb and lose 30lbs. Eat pizza for one meal and you're gaining at least 10lbs back almost immediately. The carbs trigger some kind of storage reaction in our bodies that I dont think anyone understands yet.
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The study is not about believing shit or not, it's about the INCIDENCE OF CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASES among a given population. The carbs trigger some kind of storage reaction in our bodies that I dont think anyone understands yet.
Yes, it's called the Fucking CREBS CYCLE and it's the nightmare of any highschool student who wants follow a career in biology, medicine or biochemistry.
The fact is that we understand it pretty well (besides some m
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I once, however, witnessed a guy lose 5 lbs by removing his underwear during a wrestling weigh-in. Five pound underwear seems excessive for a skinny middle school kid, but I can only assume he had been sweating to cut weight.
Elephant in the room... (Score:2)
So I get that the "Eskimo Diet" doesn't improve cardiovascular health. But then it doesn't degrade it either. Then why all the "heart smart" low-fat, no-fat, low-cholesterol propaganda we're constantly bombarded with?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U... [wikipedia.org]
It seems Uffe Ravnskov may be right. Dietary cholesterol very likely has little or no bad effects on health. It is probably "good" for you. In fact, statin drugs used to treat CAD are far worse for your
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Statins are
1) Rather safe (so 'not far worse for your health' ...)
2) Notably effective for SECONDARY prevention of coronary artery disease (CAD) If you have had heart attack #1, statins improve your chance of survival by 10-40%.
Statins have NOT been shown - but have been alluded to:
1) Decreasing CAD in people without known preexisting heart disease.
2) Decrease all cause mortality in the general population with elevated cholesterol levels.
These allusions are the problem. There is good scientific basis for
Stomp (Score:3)
I'm on the Ubangi diet. I just cram the whole plate in my mouth.
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Just in case somebody missed the reference:
https://www.google.com/search?... [google.com]
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It was not a joke.
Anyway, it's not true that "if you have to explain your joke, then it isn't a good joke". It depend upon the explanation and depends upon the joke.
In this case, "Ubangi" is a term that isn't used so much any more, given that most of you have grown up in the post- Warren Smith world. Although a somewhat lesser version was released by the Stray Cats in 1981, it was less of a phenomenon.
Anyway, the joke isn't the meaning of the term "Ubangi" so much as the way it echoes the politically inco
Death due to CAD ... (Score:2)
It's hard on the liver (Score:2)
The natives who follow this diet often die early due to liver failure, esp. the men. I think it is due to iron loading in the liver from over consumption of game meat and protein.
no worse? (Score:2)
If a fatty diet with little vegetables is no worse than a regular diet, that is interesting enough on its own.
Miracle Diet (Score:2)
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Actually according to wiki (yeah, I know, not authoritative) they had: " Grasses, tubers, roots, stems, berries, fireweed and seaweed (kuanniq or edible seaweed) were collected and preserved depending on the season and the location.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7]"
Berries sound good. I wonder how they preserved them. They probably just dried them. Root crops definitely hold up well until the next season if you know what you're doing. Arctic raisins and carrots will supplement the meat and blubber enough probably.
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is this really a sustainable food source? (Score:2)
older & newer studies... (Score:2)
By the '70s, the Eskimos were already eating Twinkies like the rest of us. The important study of aboriginal diets, including Eskimos, was that of Dr. Robert Price in the early 1900s. This study was conducted when Eskimos were still consuming traditional foods. You can learn more about this at the still vibrant Price-Pottenger Nutrition Foundation ( http://ppnf.org/ [ppnf.org] ).
In addition, you may wish to read the cover story of Time magazine which says to Eat Butter. Dr. Atkins advised this over 30 years ago and 30
Not the first study saying this (Score:2)
And it makes all the sense in the world: Ketonic diets have never been found to be healthy.
And even in the case that the Inuit's CAD incidence were lower it still could have been caused by special genetic adaptations to their diet... yet these guys have the same CAD incidence as the rest.
Well, now the best part: Poking fund at the idiots who follow the paleo-diet, bwahahaaaa!!!
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