Mad Cow Disease Blamed For Patient's Death In Texas 132
An anonymous reader writes 'Health officials say a patient in Texas has died of a rare brain disorder believed to be caused by consumption of beef products contaminated with mad cow disease. It is only the fourth known case of its kind in the United States. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said in a statement that recent laboratory tests confirmed a diagnosis of variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease in the patient.' From the article: 'The CDC says the Texas patient's history included extensive travel to Europe and the Middle East and that it is likely the infection occurred overseas. In each of the three previous U.S. deaths, the initial infection is believed to have taken place in other countries. ... The Texas Department of State Health Services says there are no state public health concerns or threats associated with the case. State and federal health officials continue to investigate and are trying to track the source of the infection.'
And the cow goes (Score:1)
Moooooo!
And the mad cow goes... (Score:4, Funny)
Mooooomuwahahahahaha! Moo! Moo! HahahahahaMOOOO! Why is a raven like a writing-desk? MOOOOO!
And the mad cow goes... (Score:2)
You're 15 years late with that joke, but thanks for playing:
http://www.niebank.com/madcow.... [niebank.com]
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I know of at least three comedians who had essentially the same idea independently about 15 years ago.
TX Law (Score:4, Informative)
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It ain't India, that's for sure. Can't disparage it but you can damned straight slaughter it and serve it up with a dash of A-1.
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And of course, note that while they require beef from other countries to pretty much all be tested, and fully trackable back to the gleam in the bull's eye, none of that is needed for US beef, particularly that they make sure to test as few animals as possible to minimize the possibility of actually noticing that animal has CJD.
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none of that is needed for US beef
Exactly! That's the whole point they're trying to make; U.S. beef is safe... so why are we even talking about this?? (/sarc) Nevermind the Yale study that showed a vast proportion of the brains of those [presumed to have died of Alzheimer's] being ridden with holes from vCJD... How else are the elites supposed to solve the population problem, if not through subterfuge?? ;)
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Beef with jet A1 fuel? That sounds peculairly revolting.
Hang on ; we're talking about Texas. That makes sense then.
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Cows and corporations are people.
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Gosh, you'd think in the state where they are so protective of the 2nd amendment they would be interested in the 1st. BTW, the way this is sometimes known as the "Oprah Law" after Oprah Winfrey who aired an episode on tainted beef in TX. I guess that they can no longer tell the joke "The only mad cow in TX is Oprah" anymore.
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Naw, the first amendment is one of them hippie liberal amendments.
Which is why God made the second Amendment.
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After seeing several patent decisions from TX courts , I think mad cow disease is rampant in Texas for years. So I guess this joke could not be told for quite some time.
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And seriously, a link to eHow? Eww, my mouse feels dirty after clicking on that.
Re:TX Law (Score:5, Informative)
Oprah said that SHE lost interest in eating hamburgers because of the BSE outbreak in Europe. She didn't disparage US Beef producers. She didn't tell her army of soccer moms to stop eating beef. That's why she won.
I'm not an Oprah fan but fair is fair and suing her was bullshit.
LK
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Oh, please. Don't be fatuous. She's huge and has a great influence. If the outbreak is in Europe, then what is there to fear in America? Yeah, she didn't outright say "I recommend you stop eating beef immediately" but that's pretty much what happened. Suppose she had said, "I'm not going to vaccinate my children" and that would be the same thing, right? Bullshit.
PS put your signature line in your signature file, accessible in the Slashdot user options panel.
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She's huge and has a great influence. If the outbreak is in Europe, then what is there to fear in America?
Probably nothing but that's not the point. Like I said, she discussed her personal preference. It doesn't matter that those middle-aged, white soccer moms followed suit. They did so on their own, as they are free to do.
If someone were to declare that their personal religious beliefs prevented them from vaccinating their children and other people followed suit, each person is responsible for their own choices.
LK
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Probably nothing but that's not the point. Like I said, she discussed her personal preference. It doesn't matter that those middle-aged, white soccer moms followed suit. They did so on their own, as they are free to do.
A bit of a straw man. But given the weird anti-science/pro personality cult that has grouwn up in the US (science is Liberal BS, Global Warming doesn't exist, the world is 6000 years old, the speed of light is variable, vaccines are the cause of other problems, people do need some responsibility for what tehy say and so.
I would hope that eventually people will see science as science, and quit trying to determine scientific fact on polls, or politics, or how hot someoone looks without their clothes on.
If someone were to declare that their personal religious beliefs prevented them from vaccinating their children and other people followed suit, each person is responsible for their own choices.
LK
Perh
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It all happened because of the loss of herd immunity.
You can't declare that with 100% certainty.
What happened to your individual immunity?
So unless these religious zealots are willing to move and make their own country, when they can revert to the dark ages and start stoning each other for working on Sunday for all I care, they have no right to kill me - none.
Everyone is killing you. Every day. We're using electricity produced by a coal powered plant. We're driving or riding in hydrocarbon powered automobiles that spew carbon dioxide, oxides of nitrogen and aromatic carcinogens.
LK
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It all happened because of the loss of herd immunity.
You can't declare that with 100% certainty.>
Of course not. Very little of existance exists at the 100 percent certainty.
What happened to your individual immunity?
Now there's the interesting part. I was immunized as a child, and some vaccines "wear off" over time. At the time, the anti-Vaxxer movement was only starting to work it's magick, so at the same time my immunity was fading, whooping cough was escaping from the "herd", so to speak. Bingo, my gift from Jenny McCarthy delivered probably by some poor child who had no choice in their getting i
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Of course not. Very little of existance exists at the 100 percent certainty.
Precisely. You can't be sure nor can you prove that anti-vaccination parents are the cause of your case of Pertussis. It's just as possible that someone sneaked across the border and infected you.
Pertussis is an especially difficult case because the immunization threshold for herd immunity is so high. It's entirely possible that you were infected by someone who wasn't anti-vaccination but simply had some other health problem that prevented vaccination.
Now people know they must get vaccines like that renewed. Before that, the lack of people with the disease meant we didn't.
So, you somehow absolve yourself for your ignorance whil
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So, you somehow absolve yourself for your ignorance while condemning them for theirs.
So you just like to argue with people. People didn't know at that time. Perhaps you already know what you don't know?
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I like to play devil's advocate and to point out hypocrisy.
LK
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PS put your signature line in your signature file
No.
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BMO
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Fear and misinformation are easier to spread, than to correct. And that's exactly how her "influence" spread. Now of course, saying the opposite people will believe that it's a great conspiracy by *insert whatever.*
Welcome to reality 101.
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How is it that you think she had enough influence to convince people to not vaccinate their kids but at the same time, but somehow her change of heart on the matter hasn't affected anyone?
LK
Because she's a fucking lying murderess who is personally responsible for a lot of dead children, rotting in their graves becase of dim witted people who believe a porn star rather than scientists. Her path to forgiennes starts with her bearing the responsibility for those dead children. She is not changing her mind, she's trying to rewrite history
http://www.thedailybeast.com/a... [thedailybeast.com]
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She's not responsible for any of those dead children.
Their parents may well be but she is not.
I'm suspicious about vaccine efficacy and the health consequences of vaccination but I vaccinated all of my children anyway. I figured that the known dangers of not vaccinating were worse than the unknown dangers of vaccination. Every parent must make this choice for him or herself.
If you take your medical advice from a TV personality, you are the one to blame. If anyone out there stopped taking their anti-psychoti
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She's not responsible for any of those dead children.
Their parents may well be but she is not.
Both are. The idea that people who influence stupid people are not responsible for that influence is the province of con men and grifters.
Also kind of like the Mike Tyson defense. Sorry, but con men, of which JMC is one, do get indicted and punished for their con jobs. There will always be stupid people. And for the most part, I'm happy to let them do as they will. But their children need to chance to grow up and be smart or stupid .
I'm suspicious about vaccine efficacy and the health consequences of vaccination but I vaccinated all of my children anyway. I figured that the known dangers of not vaccinating were worse than the unknown dangers of vaccination.
Excellent. Life is all a gamble, and I had a few nervous days after my
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Also kind of like the Mike Tyson defense.
I am not familiar with that term.
Sorry, but con men, of which JMC is one, do get indicted and punished for their con jobs.
There's a difference between being wrong and being intentionally deceptive, especially for financial gain.
Life is all a gamble, and I had a few nervous days after my child's vaccinations.
And it was YOUR choice to take that particular gamble. We all have that same freedom.
LK
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The CDC says the Texas patient's history included extensive travel to Europe and the Middle East and that it is likely the infection occurred overseas. In each of the three previous U.S. deaths, the initial infection is believed to have taken place in other countries.
It wasn't from Texas beef.
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The CDC says the Texas patient's history included extensive travel to Europe and the Middle East and that it is likely the infection occurred overseas. In each of the three previous U.S. deaths, the initial infection is believed to have taken place in other countries.
It wasn't from Texas beef.
The CDC is a liberal socialist association designed to promote the one world order. This is no time to start beliveing the Socialist hogwash they put out.
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The story you linked to says the burden of proof is on the person suing, and must prove the statement was libelous. I believe libel is already illegal. The makes the law really stupid if it's already covered by libel laws. But it's not quite having to be careful about what you say about beef.
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You know that none of that has anything to do with Mad Cow disease, yes?
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Maybe the steroids prevent mad cow disease?
If mercury prevents cancer, anything is possible...
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If mercury prevents cancer, anything is possible...
No. No it's not. David Bowie won't sing at your birthday party either because, no, not everything is possible.
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He wasn't invited and you're a fucking idiot.
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Says the guy with the anger management problem.
Well, whatever you do.... (Score:2, Funny)
Don't grind the guy up and feed him to any livestock, please.
Thanks!
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Don't grind the guy up and feed him to any livestock, please.
Thanks!
...or eat him, for that matter.
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But you can gain his courage. His rich, tasty courage...
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Mad cow disease gives courage. Aha, so that is how it works.
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Of course they have no concerns, they don't test. (Score:2)
It's easy to say there's no concerns when it can take 30yrs to manifest, is eerily similar to Alzheimer's, and can't be diagnosed without a brain biopsy, which is rarely done.
It'd raise the price of beef 1 cent per pound to test every cow slaughtered, but they ob
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They should check for "hoof and mouth" as well.
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No, hoof and mouth is a different disease. It doesn't affect humans at all, but it is much more contagious amongst cloven hoof quadrapeds
(beef, shhep, pigs, etc) it would be a big disaster for the USA.
Of course theres a separate disease called 'foot in mouth disease' that affects humans, especially politicians
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It'd raise the price of beef 1 cent per pound to test every cow slaughtered,
Wow... you're a deluded idiot. From TFA, which you obviously did not read:
A U.S.D.A. surveillance program tests brain tissue taken from about 40,000 dead cows a year for BSE.
Also from the article:
Another key part of the U.S. food safety net is to make sure that animal tissues that can carry BSE - including the brain and spinal cord - are removed from cattle before they're processed for food.
Not only are you a deluded idiot, but you're too stupid to do the barest of study:
It's easy to say there's no concerns when it can take 30yrs to manifest
Most victims die six months after [wikipedia.org]
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Most victims die six months after initial symptoms appear,
And how long from exposure to initial symptoms?
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I lived in England thirty years ago and ate the beef. I am still ineligible to donate blood.
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From your link:
'Additional concerns
In The Lancet (June 2006), a University College London team suggested that it may take more than 50 years for vCJD to develop, from their studies of kuru, a similar disease in Papua New Guinea.[59] The reasoning behind the claim is that kuru was possibly transmitted through cannibalism in Papua New Guinea when family members would eat the body of a dead relative as a sign of mourning. In the 1950s, cannibalism was bann
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To answer Your rethorical question: No.
More than 90,000 cows are slaughtered every day.
So slightly more than 1 / 1000 of the cattle is tested.
Re:Of course they have no concerns, they don't tes (Score:5, Informative)
It'd raise the price of beef 1 cent per pound to test every cow slaughtered,
Wow... you're a deluded idiot. From TFA, which you obviously did not read: A U.S.D.A. surveillance program tests brain tissue taken from about 40,000 dead cows a year for BSE.
http://usda01.library.cornell.... [cornell.edu]
"Commercial cattle slaughter during 2012 totaled 33.0 million head" (pg6)
At least Ihop0 wasn't a deluded enough of an idiot to confuse 40,000 to 33 million.
Also from the article: Another key part of the U.S. food safety net is to make sure that animal tissues that can carry BSE - including the brain and spinal cord - are removed from cattle before they're processed for food.
Not only are you a deluded idiot, but you're too stupid to do the barest of study:
It's easy to say there's no concerns when it can take 30yrs to manifest
Most victims die six months after initial symptoms appear, often of pneumonia due to impaired coughing reflexes. About 15% of patients survive for two or more years.[12] Some patients have been known to live 4â"5 years with mostly psychological symptoms until the disease progresses causing more physical symptoms leading to a diagnosis and inevitable death usually within the first year of diagnosis. [wikipedia.org]
http://memory.ucsf.edu/cjd/ove... [ucsf.edu]
"The incubation period is the time it takes you to become sick after you've contracted a disease. Cold symptoms usually start a day or two after you're exposed to a cold virus, for example, whereas the time frame for CJD is considerably longer. We think that it often takes years or even decades after exposure to the infectious forms before someone with CJD develops signs and symptoms of the disease."
And once again, at least Ihop0 wasn't a deluded idiot enough not to understand that the people didn't contract the disease initially the second they started showing initial symptoms.... although the quote you have there from wikipedia basically reinforces what he said, instead of what you are trying to imply.
So, what was our point other than randomly try to bash someone by having your inability to understand the written word flair up?
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They take a sample from every herd, because even if it would only add $0.01/lb of beef, would there actually be time to analyze all 33M slaughtered head of beef every year?
Anyway, beef has been big business in the US for a long time. Why is (according to the Minnesota Dept of Health) the disease rate still 1/1,000,000 per year? http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/idepc/diseases/cjd/cjd.html [state.mn.us]
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They take a sample from every herd, because even if it would only add $0.01/lb of beef, would there actually be time to analyze all 33M slaughtered head of beef every year?
In Finland they check every healthy specimen over 30 moths old and sick ones that are over 24 months old at time of slaughter. Texas might have a cow or two more, but something something economics of scale might be of some help.
Anyway, beef has been big business in the US for a long time. Why is (according to the Minnesota Dept of Health) the disease rate still 1/1,000,000 per year? http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/idepc/diseases/cjd/cjd.html [state.mn.us]
I honestly hope the disease rate stays low.
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You are a fucking idiot. It incubates for anywhere up to 7-10 years before symptoms appear. By the time symptoms appear, you're already fucked.
Testing 40,000 cows is a drop in the bucket. UK tests *EVERY SINGLE COW*.
The symptoms manifests in cows after about 7 years, so under Bush, they changed the requirement that meat cows be slaughtered before 3, so no one can even spot a cow that is carrying it.
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Trivial numbers In the grand scheme (Score:2)
UK Cause of Death 2010 [theguardian.com]
We are more likely to die of heart disease from eating Beef than CJD, the whole thing is a classic ersatz scandal.
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You're more likely to slip on a dead frog and break your neck going to the supermarket to buy the beef.
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At the risk of going Rumsfeld: there's cases, and then there's known cases.
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No it doesn't, because on one side they actually test for it.
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Traditional CJD can take many years to manifest. A variant came about some time ago and the variant only takes a few years to show symptoms.
John Titor! (Score:1)
MAN STEAK! (Score:2)
GoVegan! (Score:1)
GoVegan!
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Texas cows are dwindling (Score:2)
Just FYI, the inventory of Texas cows is generally shrinking year over year.
http://tscra.org/news_blog/201... [tscra.org]
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Beef consumption is declining, thanks to "Mad Cow" and red slime, and the TX industry has been badly hit by drought too. Climate change driven drought no less.
In Nevada... (Score:1)
...cows are afraid of catching Mad Bundy Disease.
Two cows were grazing... (Score:2)
So, two cows were grazing and chatting...
"Did you hear about that 'mad cow disease' thing?"
"Yeah."
"Aren't you worried?"
"No. Why should I be? I am not a cow. I am a helicopter!"
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FFS get some priorities - a man died! This is a mooving story.
Prions in the brain? (Score:2)
And woe betide any zombies who eat his brain!
I could point out (Score:1)
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[...] farmers in the US never really got into feeding their animals ground up animal parts.
Not quite. Feeding cows to cows had to be explicitly banned by the FDA. Now we feed cows to chickens then feed "poultry litter" to cows. http://www.motherjones.com/tom... [motherjones.com]
Texas? (Score:1)
My brother in law died of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease in Wisconsin. They said he could have been infected up to 20 years earlier, it hangs around until it flares up.
Trust me, it is NOT a good way to go. Similar to death from Alzheimers, but only takes about a month. Mys ister had a hard finding someone to take the body, noone wanted to touch it.
mmmmm steak (Score:2)
Its what's for dinner.
Some further detail (Score:3)
My parents were very good friends with the victim and his wife. His death had a large impact on his family and those that knew him. His death occurred only a few months ago. He was in otherwise good health until recently. Doctor's suspected something neurological but only diagnosed him with probable CJD *after* exploratory brain surgery. Needless to say, the entire hospital and staff were exposed; which prompted immediate attention from state and federal health officials. I'm actually surprised that news of this incident hasn't been publicized until now.
The family does believe that he contracted the disease during his out of the country travels, and *not* in Texas. As a previous poster mentioned, CJD is a tragic way to go. To the family, it was a sudden shock and a rapid deterioration with absolutely no hope for recovery. I have great admiration for his wife who stood by his side the entire time as she stood by and cared for him until the end.
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How, pray tell? Did they make a pate out of the cuttings?
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Exposure to TSE/CJD is really a very big threat for medical facilities - it's hard to clean off surgical items, and so contamination can happen very quickly if it's not suspected..combine that with the fact they're not 100% certain how TSE/CJD spreads, and if it can spread from more than brain and spinal fluids..
In the name of sensitivity and good taste, why not try looking this sort of thing up before saying something both ignorant, and potentially hurtful?
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If it is that virulant, then wouldn't be a fairly *huge* risk in the meat market as well. I mean, you've got nearby animals, slaughterhouse floor, instruments, workers, etc...
Everything I've always read indicated infection came from absorbing materials that had direct contact with the cerebral-spinal system due to infectious prions, and that there wasn't much risk even with meat on the same animal but away from such areas (obviously you still wouldn't want to eat it though).
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If it could be spread by mere contact, don't you think there'd be more than a few hundred cases?
Is it some new disease? (Score:1)