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Orca Identified As 103 Years Old 194

guises (2423402) writes "The oldest known orca has recently been spotted off western Canada at an age of 103. A female nicknamed 'granny,' photos exist of her from the 1930s, where she can be identified by her distinctive saddle patch. The news has prompted calls for another evaluation of marine mammals in captivity — orcas in captivity usually don't live beyond their 20s."
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Orca Identified As 103 Years Old

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  • Re:Fuck seaworld (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Jmc23 ( 2353706 ) on Thursday May 15, 2014 @03:28AM (#47006843) Journal
    ...but it's for 'education' purposes!!!

    I'm starting to think the only useful things a human can learn about wildlife in captivity is that it is no longer wild, nor alive, and we're despicable creatures for constraining other living beings for the rest of their, now-shortened, lives.

    But, hey, at least some 'scientific' proof of how much we're being a bunch of dumbasses. This is the one field where I would expect serious scientists to shut down everything if they have proof they're doing more harm than good.

  • Re:on old whales (Score:4, Insightful)

    by ruir ( 2709173 ) on Thursday May 15, 2014 @04:14AM (#47006991)
    I find it dangerous to be doing this assumptions. After all, artefacts are passed down by generations, even harpoons. So if I lost my military compass in a boat that I inherited from my father, and that must be now around 60 years old, and a whale eats it, the whale would be given an age of 60 years old?
  • Re:Fuck seaworld (Score:5, Insightful)

    by captainpanic ( 1173915 ) on Thursday May 15, 2014 @04:24AM (#47007039)

    Umm... A whale breathes air, as it is a mammal. Your guppy is a fish.

  • by dave420 ( 699308 ) on Thursday May 15, 2014 @06:20AM (#47007323)

    No advancing of marine mammal knowledge happens in these theme parks, apart from discovering that each and every time the animals in question have poorer health (physical & mental), and die sooner.

    And yes, of course many die in the wild, but by your reasoning we should keep everyone in captivity, as people die in the wild - doesn't that seem rather bizarre logic?

    Seaworld exists to make money. That's it. Their scientific endeavours are of severely limited importance to the field, and while their animal rescuing attempts are honourable, they are rather hypocritical in the face of their own record regarding the treatment of their own animals.

  • Re:Fuck seaworld (Score:4, Insightful)

    by BasilBrush ( 643681 ) on Thursday May 15, 2014 @07:21AM (#47007545)

    Wolves which range hundreds of miles are kept in captivity by humans in small areas (dogs), and they live far longer with humans than in the wild.

    Dogs get taken out for walkies at least once per day, or they start to go crazy and become unhealthy. Captive orcas never have the equivalent. It's the equivalent of a dog getting all it's exercise by walking round and round the coffee table. I wouldn't expect such a dog to have the same lifespan as a dog that's been out for walks.

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