Polio Causes Global Health Emergency 126
mdsolar (1045926) sends this news from Bloomberg: "The spread of polio to countries previously considered free of the crippling disease is a global health emergency, the World Health Organization said, as the virus once driven to the brink of extinction mounts a comeback. Pakistan, Cameroon and Syria pose the greatest risk of exporting the virus to other countries, and should ensure that residents have been vaccinated before they travel, the Geneva-based WHO said in a statement today after a meeting of its emergency committee. It's only the second time the United Nations agency has declared a public health emergency of international concern, after the 2009 influenza pandemic. Polio has resurged as military conflicts from Sudan to Pakistan disrupt vaccination campaigns, giving the virus a toehold. The number of cases reached a record low of 223 globally in 2012 and jumped to 417 last year, according to the WHO. There have been 74 cases this year, including 59 in Pakistan, during what is usually polio's 'low season,' the WHO said. "
But, but, but⦠autism!!1!11! (Score:5, Insightful)
Fuck you Jenny McCarthy and your anti-vax followers.
Re:But, but, but⦠autism!!1!11! (Score:5, Funny)
Fuck you Jenny McCarthy
I wouldn't do that. What if you catch something? Especially something preventable with vaccination!
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Ironically, they don't make vaccines for idiocy.
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Ironically, they don't make vaccines for idiocy.
Sure they do, it's called a Guillotine. Problem is, we don't use it.
it's simple cause and effect
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So you're saying what we really need is a vaccine against *other people's* stupidity? Nah, it'll never be allowed to happen - just think what that would do to politics!
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The antivaxers are starting to recognize their autism argument is debunked, they are coming up with other reasons now. Vaccines cause sids, trying to rope in Pandas, all this utter garbage. It has become an I will do what I want with my kids!
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Because the efforts are global, and the feed into other anti-vaxxers, as well as fund them.
She looks fuckable enough (Score:3, Informative)
[citation needed]
How vaccine denialism in the West is causing measles outbreaks in Brazil [theguardian.com]
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Because the efforts are global, and the feed into other anti-vaxxers, as well as fund them.
Right, because misogynistic societies like Pakistan and Syria have a long history of giving a fuck what women have to say...
Oh, not just women, but hedonistic Western women. Who became famous for sexual exploits.
Yea, sure, that's the ticket... [yahoo.com]
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I can see them all huddled around a TV screen saying "this is just utterly obscene and filthy, back it up a bit and show that part again."
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I understand global warming skeptics have good reasons, but I can't come up with a reason for funding anti-vaxxers around the world. If such campaign exists, it is the only anti-system movement of today, very curious thing.
Since I also don't understand how one can be pro- or anti- vaccines. Consider the ramifications of always trusting vaccinations because the principle is sound (you might as well ingest 2kg of pork meat every day because the principle of nutrition is just as sound) and the ramifications of
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The anti-vaxxers are not one unified community. There have been groups in third world countries that have been suspicious about western medicines and programs of innoculations. Ie, rumors that it's a government plot to infect people with HIV, stuff like that. And of course, because it was a doctor pretending to do door to door vaccination that was used to track down bin Laden, that put a big setback to vaccination in parts of Pakistan.
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Fuck you too. I hope you regularly take acetaminophen and aspartame as well as all of your 'shots'. I hope you die a weird and painful death as some vital enzyme of yours is silenced by either GMO or vaccines, such as say glucocerebrosidase. Without this enzyme metabolic waste accumulates in the cells of your brain, spleen, liver and kidneys and no "Doctor" will ever care enough to figure out what's happening to you. They'll probably call it AIDS especially if you're a faggot as I believe you are. Die a lot and cry a lot while you're at it, slowly and painfully over time, scum.
All I know is that if vaccines cause whatever the hell is wrong with you - no one wants that crap.
antivaxxers, kill, mame, burn (Score:1, Insightful)
those bastards are persistent and need to be eradicated, the bull shit they come up with to avoid vaccinating their kids is epic. They are starting to knowledge that autism is not caused by vaccines but they have come up with other bull. The newest one seems to be that vaccines cause SIDS, they wont produce any info on this and I have googled away and the only thing I find is reference to a settlement given by a vaccine company in a case of lupus in a child (they state this is proof the vaccine caused sid
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So is it the whole anti--west Islamic world you want to exterminate? That isn't very tolerant of you. Sure, they're homophobe misogynists, too, but we need to be diverse!
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Maim.
Illiteracy doesn't actually make your argument stronger, it just makes it unlikely to be read past the point where you appear to be illiterate.
Any slap on the wrist for the CIA? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Any slap on the wrist for the CIA? (Score:5, Insightful)
Yep, this has to be one of the dumber plans the CIA has come up with. We were getting pretty close to entirely wiping out a second disease (after smallpox), and they had to go and screw it up to 'find terrists' or some such.
Surely polio has killed and maimed more people than terrorists could dream of.
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The Taliban was actively campaigning against vaccinations well before the CIA used a local doctor to collect DNA under the guise of hep B vaccinations.
It didn't help however the idea it was a turning point is sadly mistaken.
Re:Any slap on the wrist for the CIA? (Score:5, Insightful)
If only. The CIA took the Pakistani equivalent of the tinfoil hat brigade and elevated them by proving their point nearly to the letter.
Thanks to them, any denial now is at best a half truth and will be seen through. No assurances will be enough to erase suspicion now.
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Well, yes, that is why the CIA should have known to NOT FUCKING DO THAT.
But no. Let's give the crazies solid proof of what used to be conspiracy theories.
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What didn't happen was some asshat's desire to demonstrate his knowledge of "inside knowledge" outweighed the oath he or she took to keep their mouth(s) shut.
It wasn't the method that was used to gather the intelligence that caused the problem, it was the disclosure of that method.
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No, using that means to gather intelligence is the issue. IT's bad, and it undermines the basic trust for people trying to care for people and p[rovide care.
The fact that they got caught isn't why it was bad.
Re:Any slap on the wrist for the CIA? (Score:5, Insightful)
Exactly. This is why it's a war crime to disguise combat troops or spies as medics. The GP's mindset is like the NSA's, that no action is too horrific as long a you don't get caught, potential consequences be damned.
Re:Any slap on the wrist for the CIA? (Score:5, Insightful)
What didn't happen was some asshat's desire to demonstrate his knowledge of "inside knowledge" outweighed the oath he or she took to keep their mouth(s) shut.
It wasn't the method that was used to gather the intelligence that caused the problem, it was the disclosure of that method.
Right... just like it isn't your fault if you lose business because you're selling clothes that don't actually exist -- it's the fault of the intern who broke his contract to tell people that they weren't wearing any clkothes.
Shoot the messenger much?
I'm sorry, but I'll take asshat with integrity over government operation that compromises global health integrity any day.
After all, what's the problem if there's nothing to hide?
Also: Doctors also take an oath. This one broke his oath before any other alleged oathbreaking took place (I pledge to uphold the Constitution trumps gag orders/NDAs, the Hippocratic oath trumps both).
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Just like it's not robbing the bank that was the problem, it was getting caught? Shoplifting is all good as long as you get away with it?
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Right, Their completely unethical behavior had nothing to do with the problem.
Much of medical and any profession is about trust; what the CIA did is violate that trust they had credentialed doctors saying one thing while doing another. The were perpetrating FRAUD, and you are arguing the problem is they got caught.
Re:Any slap on the wrist for the CIA? (Score:4, Interesting)
A nice relaxing life sentence inside an iron lung would give the responsible parties plenty of time to think over the fact that the CIA's most serious targets, much less its biggest successfully averted incidents, are total chickenshit compared to what public health people (along with contemporary sanitation infrastructure) work to keep at bay.
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sadly it would be their kids and grand kids that suffer, not the people spreading the lies.
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The locals who are directly attacking health workers also need to be punished, of course; assault and/or murder are criminal acts and they deserve to suffer for them; but they are largely a symptom, just peons doing the grunt work for a situation above their heads. The people who hatched a plan that
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Because stopping CIA data collection is a higher priority than making sure your people don't end up crippled from polio?
Sure, you can "blame" the CIA for this, but at a certain point isn't guaranteeing your kids won't get polio a little more important?
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Because stopping CIA data collection is a higher priority than making sure your people don't end up crippled from polio?
To the Pakistani Taliban, sadly yes, it is. They are primarily the ones targeting polio workers in Pakistan.
Re:Any slap on the wrist for the CIA? (Score:5, Insightful)
The CIA has the big brains, the big budget and they may have gotten the 1 person they wanted, but the misery they brought to many people, many children at that, does not justify the means. They did much evil in that case and it will cause hurt to many.
Is even a slap on the wrist not warranted for the CIA?
I don't even want to start with the other things the US Government has done in the "homeland" such as the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiments on African-Americans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
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What utter bullshit. You are treating the Taliban like foolish children who are out doing bad things to health workers because they are confused. Fuck that. They are responsible. They and their leaders bear the blame.
Also tossing more fuel on a 'blame the West' fire is beyond outrageous.
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They are like foolish children compared to educated Westerners who didn't grow up immersed in violent fundamentalist nutjobbery. Or perhaps they're closer to mentally ill.
Anyway, the CIA taught them that medical staff cannot be trusted. There's a reason using medics for espionage and attack in war is a war crime, it's the same reason that using ambulances to transport SWAT teams and this incident were incredibly horrible, dangerous ideas with grave consequences that are now being felt.
Re:Any slap on the wrist for the CIA? (Score:4, Interesting)
Lets see how sensible the Christianists are after their lives, land and countries have been fucked with for a century by Muslim Imperialism. After the state-run oil companies in Venezuela and Iran get together and overthrow [wikipedia.org] the governments of the U.K. and the United States. After the Revolutionary Guard spends 15 years threatening the United States with total obliteration [reuters.com] if it made use of a nuclear weapons program that it says does not exist [rawstory.com]. And says crippling sanctions that killed 5,000,000 kids in the U.S. (adjusted for population) was worth it. [thegatewaypundit.com]
But I don't expect that partial list to make a dent in the cognitive dissonance in all the Bill Maher's [youtube.com] running around in the comments.
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And it's impressive that Iranians are relatively level-headed and peaceful after all this, even many western cultures wouldn't be able to contain their lust for vengeance in such circumstances.
But I wasn't talking about them. I was talking about the Taliban.
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Bill Maher [youtube.com] posts on Slashdot! Who knew?
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Stop and _think_ for a moment, will you? Nobody here is defending the Taliban. Nobody here is saying the CIA shouldn't fight the Taliban.
The whole bloody point of having a free country is not just having the ability to criticise our government when they do the wrong thing, but also that the ability be exercised. If we don't, history is pretty bloody clear that we end up with a government similar to the Taliban in charge of us.
If the CIA has a problem with carrying out its assigned tasks under the restrictio
As planned (Score:2)
If you really don't think that was another -ahem- bullet point in the CIA's slide deck for this operation, I have some swamp-based bitcoins to sell you.
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It was a local Dr. and nurses.
And health workers getting assaulted and people stopping them for giving vaccinations has been going on far before that. sadly.
non-vaccination in Pakistan (Score:5, Informative)
It couldn't have anything to do with this (CIA using polio vaccinations as cover) could it?
http://articles.baltimoresun.c... [baltimoresun.com]
Re:non-vaccination in Pakistan (Score:5, Informative)
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Methinks you're downplaying the significance of the CIA'a actions. Jenny McCarthy has been an anti-vaxer for some time. If it was proven that a few dozen kids had contracted autism via vaccines, what would it do to the size of her following?
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To be fair, it wouldn't be the first time the U.S. engaged in forced sterilization.
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I was going to disagree with you, but then I remembered instead that it was the Secret Service who was for increased fertilization.
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I don't think we actually have such a program running there, I just wanted to point out that from their perspective it is hardly a paranoid fantasy.
gee - Thanks, Obama! (Score:1)
n/t
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See Japan Unit 731 [wikipedia.org] from WWII.
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Already been done....in the freaking Paleozoic era. No comparison to the most powerful man in the world giving credence to modern conspiracy theories as to the "real" purpose of vaccination programs.
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I blame the media for spreading this. If it weren't for them the guise would have been left on and not uncovered making the world a safer place. I mean I'm all about freedom, but someetimes we have to give some up like freedom of press to keep me safe while I stuff my face with McDonald's new synthetic McRahib.
Thanks Obama (Score:2)
Probably started this to distract us from Benghazi, didn't you??
Makes me sad (Score:1)
dude did a ted talk a couple years back full of optimism. Why can't we all just say, fuck you polio, and git her done?
if i can imagine one thing most everybody should be able to get behind it should be the eradication of disease. Lets all agree that polio is bad, and getting rid of polio is good. and if the WHO can convince warlords to help with the vaccination effort in the moments between open conflict, why isn't this problem kicked?
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yeah, a nearly unprecedented level of international cooperation will do that.
Re:10% * 417 = ??? (Score:4, Insightful)
Seriously, what the hell? 417 cases of polio last year reported. This has to be on par with the number of motorcycle deaths due to flying mammals.
The problem is that it's infectuous. One person can infect several others, who infect more. Ever heard of exponential growth? If not, Google it.
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Flying mammals' population growth is, presumably, exponential under nominal circumstances. Stop the oppression of the bumblebee bat, and the motorcycle will be done for! :)
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Why don't you take an extended trip to an area with a Libertarian [youtube.com] water supply and find out, Slick.
Franklin Roosevelt (Score:2)
That's only a problem with polio if you drink where you shit. Why should anyone living on more than 5$ per day be worried about this? Are you commonly concerned about the anal-oral route for pathogens?
Quick reminder that polio outbreaks occurred periodically in the U.S. up through the 1950's, prior to the development of effective vaccines.
Even being born to a wealthy and high-status family in the U.S. was no guarantee of safety from polio infection, as was experienced by Franklin Roosevelt [wikipedia.org], at the age of 39.
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Are you commonly concerned about the anal-oral route for pathogens?
Many, if not most of the vegetables you eat are picked by workers on gigantic tracts of industrial farmland with miles to even the nearest port-a-potty and an antagonistic attitude towards breaks from management.
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However, unlike preventing flying-mammal-caused motorcycle deaths for a couple of years, preventing all polio deaths for a couple of years means we may never have to worry about it ever again.
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incidentally, the when the polio eradication campaign started in the 80's it was three hundred thousand cases yearly. 2+ decades of coordinated international effort have dropped it to "flying mammals" levels.
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just the scale is... millions of people vaccinating billions one by one house by house. in the middle of war, starvation, hostility and ignorance.
makes me proud to be human
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Polio shows no symptoms in 90% of cases, even though the infected are still contagious. So 417 reported cases means at least 4170 infected individuals. Not to mention that many cases with symptoms will not have made it into those statistics, so the number is probably much higher.
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What's wrong with /.? (Score:2)
Pollo (Score:1)
Did anyone else read the title and think the post would be about some global food recall?
On my screen, with the font slashdot uses for titles (and with my eyes) I can't distinguish i and l.
GOODTIMES will give you Dutch elm disease (Score:4, Informative)
CIA operatives should be flogged... (Score:5, Insightful)
Every time I read about that I want to flog the CIA operatives that thought that up.
I mean, couldn't they have given out the REAL vaccine while they were at it? Or better yet, followed the rules of war and NOT imitated medical personnel?
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Rather than flogging, I have a better idea for their punishment.
They should be sent out to distribute actual vaccines, in the worst areas..
Re:CIA operatives should be flogged... (Score:4, Insightful)
Er, actually? Yes, the CIA deciding to flout the rules is indeed the CIA's fault.
Otherwise, what's the point of fighting the Taliban, if not to protect the innocent and uphold the rule of law?
Re:CIA operatives should be flogged... (Score:4, Insightful)
Worse, it's important to remember that the Taliban isn't some organization that is evil 'just for the lulz'. It's a bad organization overall, yes, but one way to fight it is to rise above it's level and avoid giving them recruits because we do something stupid.
Bing - If the people see healthcare workers as purely helpful people, then they won't want the Taliban attacking them, they'll resist them being attacked, etc...
It's just like the prohibition on using holy sites as military points - doing so not only removes the protection from attack the site enjoys, but reduces the protection all the other sites enjoy. If we can keep our medical personnel from being seen as suspect, they're much better able to access these areas.
If we 'take the high road', then it pushes the Taliban(who are not Al Qaeda) to toe the line better. If both sides are toeing the line, it makes peace easier.
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Not CDC, quacks (Score:5, Informative)
LOL...pages not found (Score:5, Informative)
And what's not to trust about naturalnews.com, a site that links over and over again to articles and sources on naturalnews.com?
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Yeah, a page with a total of two links, both broken, is far more credible than a blog post with over 50 links to medical and scientific articles, journals, studies, and stories.
And what's not to trust about naturalnews.com, a site that links over and over again to articles and sources on naturalnews.com?
Naturally... they're a news site! Original Journalism, the Natural way!
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Randall, it's OK to log in.
Re:No cancer (Score:5, Informative)
Stop twisting facts.
Oh really? That article notes that from 1955 to 1963 the vaccine might have been contaminated with a virus that might cause cancer.
To say that the vaccine "causes" cancer (present tense) is blatantly false.
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It is suspected that distilled water also causes cancer. More research is needed, but the scientists are still fighting over the formulation of the non-distilled 'dirty' water to use for the control group.
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Other great quotes from that site:
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So, sorry if I misunderstood, but were you trying for a funny mod?