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Dried Meat "Resurrects" Lost Species of Whale 87

sciencehabit writes "A gift of dried whale meat—and some clever genetic sleuthing across almost 16,000 kilometers of equatorial waters—has helped scientists identify a long-forgotten animal as a new species of beaked whale. The 'resurrection' raises new questions about beaked whales, the most elusive and mysterious of cetaceans. Overall, the saga shows 'that there are probably even more species of beaked whales that we don't know about,' says Phil Clapham, a marine mammalogist at the National Marine Mammal Laboratory in Seattle, Washington. 'We don't see them because they're very deep-diving and live far from land.' They also live in a poorly surveyed part of the ocean, Baker says, where very few people dwell on remote atolls."
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Dried Meat "Resurrects" Lost Species of Whale

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 06, 2014 @05:10AM (#46171549)

    be heard.
    [Fuck Beta]

    • by Anonymous Coward

      scroll to the VERY END of any slashdot beta page.. click on the link for Slashdot Classic:

      i agree that it's annoying having it pushed in the face, but at least they gave us a simple click to get back to the old looks... but i don't like that message about the old looks being scheduled for retirement soon... :(

      • by Lumpy ( 12016 )

        Slashdot has NEVER been about the users here. Ever since Taco sold it off it has been all about making some manager happy by adding crap that is NOT needed.
        Look at Lifehacker and Gizmodo, they use that Kinja garbage and their site is completely broken. The Slasdot management is all a-flutter over Web 3.0 garbage like they have and do not care they will ruin the useability just to have some more flashy that works great on a 10gbps link.

        It is about making advertisers happy and clueless executives and manage

        • by RLiegh ( 247921 )

          Ok, fine -I'm convinced and so are many others?
          SO ...where have we decided to go when they stop offering slashdot classic -ars technica?

          • Ok, fine -I'm convinced and so are many others? SO ...where have we decided to go when they stop offering slashdot classic -ars technica?

            That depends. If the boycott doesn't work, an alternative Slashdot site sounds pretty good.

            -- Common Joe

            Slashdot Valentines Day Massacre: Boycott Slashdot because "Fuck Beta!": February 10 - 17

            And Support Okian Warrior's Alternate Slashdot [] Idea!

    • ...what is good for you! No matter how much we hate it, slashdot beta is coming like a steam locomotive and there ain't no way, other than no slashdot for you, that you will be able to avoid it! You don't like it, I don't like it, hardly anyway likes it, but be prepared to bend over and take it like a man because slashdot beta has a hard on for you!

    • OK. You idiots at Dice want to "fix" the beta? My number one complaint - you post about 12 inches of crap in the right hand column that (because of your layout) removes about 50% of the screen for use by the comments. Not only does that destroy screen space that could be used by content users actually want to read, but that content that you've wasted this space for also scrolls off the screen for people who might (for some unknown reason) want to see the wonders of Dice's lovely sub-companies. Here's a clue

    • Beta will be the death of slashdot, if it is pushed on everyone. It should be an option for phone users. An option, that's all.
  • Fuck the beta (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Finally tried it and goddamn.

  • Fuck beta (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Misanthrope ( 49269 ) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @05:16AM (#46171581)

    Jesus, I've been coming here since '99. I won't come back if beta is pushed on me.

    • by nut ( 19435 ) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @05:52AM (#46171739) Homepage

      So I see they have deleted all references to the fuckbeta tag. That didn't take long.

      P.S. Fuckbeta.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward

        if they try to remove the [FUCK BETA] sigs there will be no coming back for me
        [FUCK BETA] You motherfuckers.

      • I use classic on my phone. Why? Because mobile sucks as far as I'm concerned. Is beta a variant of mobile? Don't know, never tried it, but from the thousands of "fuck beta" posts I don't want to.

        • by Anonymous Coward

          Mobile is actually SUPERIOR to Beta.

          Mobile, while ungodly horrible, actually doesnt forcibly ram large 600px wide images down your pipe and into your face, and actually somewhat kinda sorta tries to look a little bit like classic, if you cross your eyes and sacrifice a goat to shub nigguroth on may-eve.

          Beta? Not so much. Enjoy all the vacuous empty whitespace of a bleach blonde cum dumpster, right in your browser window-- WITH FLASHY PICTURES!

    • You know you can't resist, Dice knows you can't resist. Resistance is futile my friend.

    • Just because the title has "Resurrected" in it doesn't mean that Jesus is reading this thread.
    • by Threni ( 635302 )

      Same here. There are alternatives, and I can always bung Slashdot in my rss feed and just skim the headlines and click straight through to the referred too site if it's not one I've already spotted (from an alternative).
      Or just not bother. It's like Unity on Ubuntu. I don't mind change. I do mind making stuff worse. The only thing wrong with Slashdot at the moment is the various options have no help and don't make any sense. I can't even log into the beta one.

  • by Nationless ( 2123580 ) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @05:17AM (#46171583)

    I don't think they know what the word, "resurrect", means.

    Nah, just kidding. Fuck the beta.

  • by Anonymous Coward
    Ah, *ahem* ... FUCK BETA. That is all.

    Hot grits are rolling down
    Natalie Portman's butt cheeks
    Giving me a winter erection.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      Fuck Beta! Fuck Beta! Fuck Beta! Fuck Beta! Fuck Beta! Fuck Beta! Fuck Beta! Fuck Beta!

      BSD is dying.

  • Fuck Beta (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 06, 2014 @05:31AM (#46171643)

    Fuck Beta.

    First comment ever on /.

    Been reading it for over 15 years.

    Classic or nothing.

  • Too bad It can resurrect Slashdot Classic

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      There is either Slashdot or slashbeta, no classic.


    • by higuita ( 129722 )

      psst!! yes, you can resurrect classic [], just don't tell anyone!!

      • Have you seen the notices showing up on pages which says they're discontinuing the classic and we'll all be forced to use beta soon?

        So, you can see it for a while, but they're going to eventually make the new version mandatory.

        And I predict traffic will drop measurably the day they do that.

  • Beta Sucks! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 06, 2014 @05:55AM (#46171755)

    The Beta sucks! It's not just bad from a "I don't like change" perspective; it's bad from an aesthetic and usability standpoint! We've told you what is bad about it. Now please incorporate our suggestions.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Just to add: FUCKBETA.

  • by Bearhouse ( 1034238 ) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @05:58AM (#46171775)

    Well, I'm normally against childish flaming, but this beta thing has me upset.
    Especially since I have been giving regular feedback ever since they started rolling out this crap.

    Why are they continuing? Death march...

    • Well, I'm normally against childish flaming, but this beta thing has me upset. Especially since I have been giving regular feedback ever since they started rolling out this crap.

      Why are they continuing? Death march...

      Because somebody's getting paid to do it.

      • Re: (Score:1, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward

        It's what happens every time there is a re-branding that users don't like.
        Management doesn't want to admit that they wasted all that money on something that no one wants, so they'll try to ram it through anyway.

    • Why are they continuing? Death march...

      Because someone's "UX credentials" are on the line, and like a desperado firing blanks, they find going down in a blaze of glory, taking the site with them, as preferable to a gracious climbdown.

      You've got to undertand, some industries/careers are built not on technical merit, but on pure Front. Law, management, trendy design: If you lose face in such industries, your career is basically over. What your ostensibly supposed to be doing has nothing to do with it.

      • I agree with what you write, but how can someone spin destroying a heavily trafficked website in a positive way? This redesign looks to be career damaging for those involved as far as I can tell.
        • by Hatta ( 162192 )

          Slashdot has long been in decline anyway. They are taking the risk of driving everyone away, in the hopes of attracting a new audience. It won't work, but I can see how it is at least a rational attempt to recover some of their sunk costs.

        • Well, it's not as big as it used to be, especially not as a percentage of the largest ones.

          Of course that still means a lot of users, but in today's capitalism it's probably an obvious gamble to try to make it "even larger", even while risking a complete meltdown.

  • You had One Job! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 06, 2014 @06:03AM (#46171791)

    The value of Slashdot is the comment section to the articles. Why would you ever approve a redesign that has ruined the one reason people visit the site!?!?!?!? How hard is it to prevent comments from being squished into oblivion???

  • Unresurrect (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Cornwallis ( 1188489 ) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @06:04AM (#46171793)

    the suck-y beta /. site.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Just in case someone doesn't know, here's how to access Slashdot without the fucking beta activated:

    Now, please, someone FORK THIS DAMN SITE.

    • by Anonymous Coward
      FORK THE FUCK!!!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 06, 2014 @06:16AM (#46171843)

    Here is Dice's "Contact Us" page. [] Everybody be sure to call them tomorrow using whatever numbers from that page you can get to ring. Tell every darn receptionist in every darn one of Dice's holdings, along with anyone you can get them to connect you to, that the Slashdot beta is terrible and you won't shut up until it goes away. Fax them a well-illustrated complaint or two or three. Send them a choice letter via snail mail, along with whatever memorabilia you wish.

    They keep soliciting our feedback, they can get our feedback, right where it counts.

    The most obvious contact points are:

    Dice Holdings Inc.
    1040 Avenue of the Americas, 8th Floor
    New York, NY 10018
    T: 212-725-6550
    F: 212-725-6559

    594 Howard St Suite 300
    San Francisco, CA 94105
    Tel: +1-877-433-5638

  • by cascadingstylesheet ( 140919 ) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @06:41AM (#46171975)
    Don't be like every other lame site out there. Dare to be different. You know, maybe even nerdy ...
  • Fuck beta (Score:5, Informative)

    by wbr1 ( 2538558 ) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @08:43AM (#46172555)
    Vote this up... []
  • I actually read TFA because it's too painful to stay here.
  • by knarf ( 34928 ) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @09:54AM (#46172977) Homepage
    TFA talks about these whales never having been seen because they live so deep in the sea. Either they have developed rebreathers or everlasting scuba gear OR they have to come to the surface every once in a while to breathe and thus be liable to be seen. The same goes for calves, they'd have to stay relatively close to the surface for the first few days. Good to know that there is still something left to be discovered.

    Now that this is out of the way I'd like to add my voice to those who state that the beta is, shall we say, sub-optimal? I don't tend to use expletives so I'll refrain from them in this context but I do want to let it be known that I'll probably be a goner if I have to access the site through the JS-riddled monstrosity called beta. I already spend more time elsewhere (HN et al) even though 'elsewhere' also has its faults.

    To those in command, accept that the beta is generally disliked. Either keep the site as it is until it bleeds dry or, if you insist in changing for changes' sake offer the content through an API so users can decide on their own frontend - think HN. Yes, you'll want to have some way of foisting ads and infomercial content and such pablum on your very suspecting users. They'll find ways to block it as they always did. Just accept that and keep the brand alive, or fight it and perish.
  • First on-topic post!
  • Day 1: It wouldn't stop, the redirecting. At first I thought it was malware. Had my first drink in a long time.

    Day 2: Barely had the strength to carry on as the BETA REDIRECTIONS continue.. trying not to talk to hallucinations at the bar and in the bathroom which laugh at me about these redirections.

    Day 3: Discovered the BETA redirections were random, and while at first they looked somewhat usable, when I looked at me and my monitor screen in the mirror, a horrible woman with flesh hanging off of her body looked back, trying to lead me into a dance as the word BETA appeared across her rancid breasts.

    Day 4: These BETA corridors go on FOREVER! On the plus side, I've taken up disassembling vehicles to corner this BETA beast and sacrifice myself rather than lead others to discovering it. I ate some red snow.

    Day 5: Finding it harder to concentrate. I've ate some more of the red snow. The taste is starting to grow on me.

    Day 6: This typewriter is the only entertainment I have, apart from throwing things at the walls, trying to get some response from the BETA which is now taking over my mind.

    Day 7: Hahahahahha! Would you believe it? I'M STILL BEING REDIRECTED TO SLASHDOT BETA PAGES! AHAHhahahaah! Type, type, ding, ding! Wooo!

    Day 8: The hallucinations are actually real! Would you believe it? They have offered to help me if I agree to work for them. I'm thinking about patenting this delicious red snow, the taste is unreal!

    Day 9: Having black out sessions where I cannot remember large passings of time. Found some makeup, thought I'd paint a joker smile on my face to amuse the people only I can see!

    Day 10: Productive today, part of what I wrote for my new screenplay:

    I cannot opt out of Slashdot BETA!
    I cannot opt out of Slashdot BETA!
    I cannot opt out of Slashdot BETA!
    I cannot opt out of Slashdot BETA!
    I cannot opt out of Slashdot BETA!
    I cannot opt out of Slashdot BETA!
    I cannot opt out of Slashdot BETA!
    I cannot opt out of Slashdot BETA!
    I cannot opt out of Slas

    (drops of blood on paper)

  • by kbahey ( 102895 ) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @12:28PM (#46174767) Homepage

    I have been a regular visitor to Slashdot for around 15 years. For that, I get the checkbox to disable ads, though I browse with Javascript disabled so my browser does not slow down.

    I come here for the discussions, and often read comments at +5, changing that only if I find a discussion interesting and warrants reading at a lower level.

    The new beta uses JQuery for the comment threshold selector, and changes that on the fly. This means all the comments are loaded, but not visible, and processing any page with considerable number of comments will slow down MY computer! If I have a few tabs open to read later, my computer will be unusable.

    What is worse it that they require you to click on the slider on every article to change the threshold! This is just insane!

    If they insist that I enable Javascript to browse the site at the threshold I want, then they will lose me as a long time. I imagine that others long timers will hate the site too.

    Dice have to remember that this site has two unmatched features, interlocked: a moderation system that is good at cutting down the trolling, spamming, and noise, and a comment section that is frequented by many people who are passionate about technology and other nerdy stuff.

    If they wanted to intentionally ruin the site and drive people away, they would not have done any worse than what they are doing now.

    If they manage to aggravate a lot of their users, the comment section will no longer be attractive to the audience. Perhaps we should revive kuro5hin?

    I wrote the above in a feedback form that I filled a while ago, and I am emailing this comment to their Please send them feedback too.

    And mod this up so Dice can see what they are getting themselves into.

  • Am I the only one who's first thought when reading 'Dried Meat' was: beef jerky. (+ foooood :))

  • Without meat eating where would we be(ak). One more good reason to carnivore.

  • it just really sucks. FUCK BETA

"The way of the world is to praise dead saints and prosecute live ones." -- Nathaniel Howe