Designer Seeds Thought To Be Latest Target By Chinese 164
An anonymous reader writes "Economic espionage is nothing new but one of the biggest areas being targeted now is agriculture. Here's a story about a FBI investigation to track down theft of seeds from research farms. 'The case of the missing corn seeds first broke in May 2011 when a manager at a DuPont research farm in east-central Iowa noticed a man on his knees, digging up the field. When confronted, the man, Mo Hailong, who was with his colleague Wang Lei, appeared flushed. Mr. Mo told the manager that he worked for the University of Iowa and was traveling to a conference nearby. When the manager paused to answered his cellphone, the two men sped off in a car, racing through a ditch to get away, federal authorities said.'"
DNA wants to be free... (Score:5, Insightful)
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Open source generic engineering for all! Say, would you happen to know the nucleotide sequence for an enormous prick?
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Open source generic engineering for all! Say, would you happen to know the nucleotide sequence for an enormous prick?
I imagine you'll want the sequences for blond hair and a tan as well.
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Nah. I just want something big for jacking off.
Here you go (Score:2)
Open source generic engineering for all! Say, would you happen to know the nucleotide sequence for an enormous prick?
Here you go: http://www.snpedia.com/index.p... [snpedia.com]
Oh wait, maybe you mean the other kind of enormous prick?
"Remember, genes are NOT blueprints. This means you can't, for example, insert 'the genes for an elephant's trunk' into a giraffe and get a giraffe with a trunk. There are no genes for trunks. What you CAN do with genes is chemistry, since DNA codes for chemicals. For instance, we can in theory splice the native plants' talent for nitrogen fixation into a terran plant." -- Academician Prokhor Zakharov, No
Boycott (Score:4, Informative)
I propose that we boycott stories and only discuss the abomination that is Slashdot Beta.
Moderators - only spend mod points on comments that discuss Beta
Commentors - only discuss Beta
Keep this up for a few days and we may finally get the PHBs attention.
Captcha: fuckbeta
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More like the village has to yell until the admins about to bulldoze the village wake the hell up.
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You forgot Gnome 3. But still not as bad as Slashdot Beta.
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How about a /. "poll" on this?
Re:Boycott (Score:5, Insightful)
Though I support the idea in principle I seriously doubt it'll get the PHB's attention since they have such an obvious lack of respect for, and understanding of the slashdot community.
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I share your fear. Still, a number of us are trying to get their attention.
-- Common Joe
Slashdot Valentines Day Massacre: Boycott Slashdot because "Fuck Beta!": February 10 - 17
And Support Okian Warrior's Alternate Slashdot [slashdot.org] Idea!
Re:Boycott (Score:5, Interesting)
Just registered bangslashdot.com/net/org (!/.) in case Slashdot needs to be forked to a new site. Will happily sell the domain to a more capable web-type for the exact price I paid (with the stipulation that I get a low UID).
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Just registered bangslashdot.com/net/org (!/.) in case Slashdot needs to be forked to a new site. Will happily sell the domain to a more capable web-type for the exact price I paid (with the stipulation that I get a low UID).
So Rule 34 comes to slashdot now too...
Re:Boycott (Score:4, Interesting)
I figure my best go-though to stat with will be to stop commenting. With that if they continue to go through with the beta I'll just take my warm revenue generating body somewhere else.
Cheers to my friends, foes, and freaks.
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Tank yu missa Clin ten (Score:2, Insightful)
The Chinese have had an open field day stealing tech and killing of Western businesses since our beloved Bill Clinton opened the doors to them. Those roks are now coming in to roost, USA is over and screwed by its own doing. Manchurian Candidate - for real.
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The Chinese have had an open field day stealing tech and killing of Western businesses since our beloved Bill Clinton opened the doors to them.
You mean Nixon.
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Nixon opened the door. Then you had reagan send over LOADS of economic items. For example, he asked the original moly corp to help China with their rare earth, by turning over their technology on how to mine and process it. That destroyed moly corp. Clinton allowed China to buy neo-mag, but not to move it. However, W/ you neo-cons overrode the military's objections and allowed the company to move to China.
Yes, clinton made a deal with China in 2000. BUT, it was W t
In other news... (Score:2, Informative)
In other news, slashdot beta sucks. More at 11.
If only (Score:5, Funny)
Those Chinese spies could steal the slashdot beta code!
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Those Chinese spies could steal the slashdot beta code!
They stole the code to Slashdot Beta six months ago. And you don't see them using it anywhere because they determined that it was a western plot to devalue the entire Chinese economy. There's just no other explanation.
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*Phbtbtbt* The Chinese spies planted it as a bit of culture jamming.
They figure they can disrupt most of the US tech industry by making Slashdot into a steaming turd of ugly.
Judging by the comments the last two days, it appears to be working.
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They can put it on their secret intranet sites to deter visitors.
Beta Developers (Score:3, Funny)
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reddit, duh. All the bitcoin pump and dump artists hang out there, it's the worldwide HQ of bitcoin bandwagonism.
Darth BETA: Help me remove these pants... (Score:1)
a robot hand has invaded my space and now only Google searches for:
FUCK SLASHDOT BETA
sometimes in quotes, again and again!
Cool! He dresses in black but his penis is cocaine white!
(looks around)
Just one suck to see if he regains his color.
Economic or Military? (Score:5, Interesting)
A major war between modern powers could be more effectively "won" with biological weapons than nuclear ones. Come up with something that will decimate the primary crop of the enemy nation (or even specific variations on that crop which might be planted en masse by Monsanto) and you severely weaken the country.
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The real problem here is that western leaders do not think of themselves in a cold war with China, while China absolutely is engaged.
Worst, we have loads of kids running around screaming that China is not engaged in a cold war, while ignoring facts like this.
Reasons did not exist to redesign Slashdot/ (Score:2, Insightful)
Which begs the question, what fuckwad insisted on doing so?
Buck Feta (Score:5, Insightful)
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Buck Futter!
#FuckBeta
Down With Beta! (Score:1)
Ive been visiting Slashdot since the late 90s (during the "don't get a username because of privacy"-era). The new redesign is awful and I agree with all the criticisms that have been made. I think we need a comment bounty reward to anyone who can find ONE remotely positive comment about the redesign. What is the point of asking for feedback when you are just going to do what you want anyway? Slashdot has a readership that dates back to the early days of the Internet and boasts one of the best comment c
Why Beta Sucks. (Score:5, Insightful)
1. Way too much vertical white space, which is more precious than dehydrated unicorn testciles thanks to 16:9 screens.
2. A More Button. WTF! The bandwidth for text is cheap. Give me the whole converstaion.
3. Coonversation context is lost because I can't see summarised comments nested under modded up comments.
4. Thick borders. 1 pixel is enough.
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My 16:9 screens are in portrait mode, you insensitive clod!
Seeds (Score:2)
If these seeds are GMO'ed I say let them have them.
That way several years down the road when only one company in China owns all of the food supply and it is ILLEGAL to grow your own food, we won't have to worry about their industrial espionage...
Oh wait, our government does the same industrial espionage...http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/26/us-security-snowden-germany-idUSBREA0P0DE20140126
Never mind.
Honestly, a much more sensible thing to steal... (Score:4, Insightful)
Given that, along with the nigh-universal tendency of people to eat more meat (far less efficient per calorie than stuff lower on the food chain) if they get wealthier, and to rise up in revolution like they have nothing to lose (because they don't) if food supplies are dangerously constrained, doing absolutely everything they possibly can to keep agricultural yields high, and preferably rising, is probably about the sanest policy the Chinese government could be pursuing.
Sure, hypersonic missiles and supercavitating torpedoes and fancy fighter planes and stuff are good for dick waving, keeping Americans at a distance while rattling the sabre at Taiwan, and general jingoism; but it's not as though anybody outside of China wants to start a land war in Asia and directly slug it out with the PLA on Chinese soil, so all that stuff is really pretty secondary.
1.2 billion people (including the ones who you've provided with guns, and their families and friends) who are starting to see more and more of the weekly grocery list slipping beyond their buying power? Now that is what has any sensible leader (whether of a despotism, a monarchy, a republic, a democracy, doesn't matter) wake up screaming and drenched in cold sweat night after night.
NO! (Score:1)
If you move me to the beta slashdot abortion i'll add this place to the block list and never visit again.
Too many other news sites regurgitate the exact same storys i see here. And all of them don't look as shitty as the beta slashdot.
Stop being stupid
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Just looked at this article in /. beta. After comments are nested in a few levels, the text column is so narrow there is only one word per line! Like this:
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Ceterum autem censeo slashdot esse delendam (Score:1)
Ceterum autem censeo slashdot esse delendam.
Ceterum autem censeo slashdot esse delendam?
Ceterum autem censeo slashdot esse delendam!
Ceterum autem censeo slashdot esse delendam;
Ceterum autem censeo slashdot esse delendam!
Ceterum autem censeo $lashdot esse delendam
Ceterum autem censeo slashdot esse delendam
Ceterum autem censeo slashdot esse delendam
Ceterum autem censeo slashdot esse delendam
If you can read this I've bypassed your "postercomment" compressi
Time for a slashdotting (Score:2, Informative)
Here is Dice's "Contact Us" page. [diceholdingsinc.com] Everybody be sure to call them tomorrow using whatever numbers from that page you can get to ring. Tell every darn receptionist in every darn one of Dice's holdings, along with anyone you can get them to connect you to, that the Slashdot beta is terrible and you won't shut up until it goes away. Fax them a well-illustrated complaint or two or three. Send them a choice letter via snail mail, along with whatever memorabilia you wish.
They keep soliciting our feedback, they can
seeds as mother nature made them (Score:2)
Have been refined by millions of years of evolution. That a few scientists with an ego problem think they can do better is laughable.
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You mean like seedless bananas and seedless watermelons? Surly those were made by nature, since sterility & seedlessness are such an advantageous traits. Or corn, which has its seeds encased by a husk preventing dispersal. Yep, a product of nature right there.
Even if what you were saying wasn't an appeal to nature, the same nonsense spouted by every snakeoil salesman hawking naturopathic cure-alls I might add, you're still wrong. Everything you eat has been dramatically changed by human hands. Straw
Find the NAME of the man who gave the order! (Score:3, Interesting)
A person directed the Slashdot redesign.
Who is he?
Well (Score:2)
No doubt they're in the 'research and development' department.
"...on charges of stealing trade secrets in what the authorities and agriculture experts have called an unusual and brazen scheme to undercut expensive, time-consuming research."
It stops being unusual when it's industrial espionage of absolutely anything that can be reverse engineered and copied on a constant basis.
The western state departments need to get their balls out of cold storage and deal with this economic warfare against us.
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state dept can do little. It is time for the govs. to stop it.
The state department is part of the government. They are specifically tasked with protection of this sort they just don't have the balls to go up against China.
http://www.state.gov/e/eb/tpp/... [state.gov]
so quit hiring Chinese from China (Score:2)
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Re:Beta sucks! (Score:4, Insightful)
*I* am Sparticus.
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Wow, that bolded 'I' doesn't really stand out. I can see why you used asterisks.
Re:Beta sucks! (Score:5, Funny)
Fork Slashdot to a new site, move on and leave the dregs to remember the good old days and salt the ground with their bitter tears.
Oh wait, we've already done that...
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Please take us with you. Serious. Give us an alternative site and many shall follow.
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Re:Beta sucks! (Score:4, Insightful)
Good bye.
Re:Beta sucks! (Score:5, Insightful)
Threats are one thing. Action is another Is it possible for a website redesign to be so bad that people actually stop reading it?
Yes. I used to read Yahoo Sports every day. The latest redesign was so bad that it was just unreadable. I no longer bother with it.
Slashdot is heading down the same path.
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Why do the redesign.
The new web page looks like shit.
I don't need more shitty news, but I guess I can take that.
But it's nowhere near as clear as the old one. The design of Slashdot is very clear and obviously feel very much at home for many of us.
We don't want to visit random blog, we want to visit /..
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Threats are one thing. Action is another
You're right. I'm taking action.
-- Common Joe
Slashdot Valentines Day Massacre: Boycott Slashdot because "Fuck Beta!": February 10 - 17
And Support Okian Warrior's Alternate Slashdot [slashdot.org] Idea!
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I agree... I prefer this layout but possibly I'm just being stubborn. Still, I don't like being forced to change. I like to change because I want to change not because someone tells me to change.
Fuck beta! (Score:2)
And don't forget to use a condom! Nobody wants to see the unholy offspring of that union.
Well, nobody in their right mind.
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Yes, slashdot beta sucks, but "classic" sucks too. The previous site code was better and THAT sucked too (no unicode support whasoever remember?)
However now that Slashdot is owned by DICE i think it's unlikely that it wil do something so uncapitalist as not targeting the unwashed masses. It's lowest common denominator or shutdown!
I think th ebest course of action is to move somewhere else. Reddit is the most promising one. Subscribe to the following subreddits:
http://www.reddit.com/r/censor... [reddit.com]
http://www.red [reddit.com]
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but the lowest common denomenator isn't interested in slashdot anyway so they are dumping real users for uninterested hypothetical users
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Re:Beta sucks! (Score:5, Insightful)
Every comment I've seen on the new design is negative. Every single one... that just never happens, it's mind blowing. There should be a few people taking the opposite side, just for the sake of taking the opposite side, but this thing is so wretched that nobody wants to defend it, not even anonymously. Is this part of some shady corporate ploy to destroy Slashdot, sell off the ping-pong tables and take a tax write-off? Or are the new managers just not very bright?
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Every comment I've seen on the new design is negative. Every single one... that just never happens, it's mind blowing. There should be a few people taking the opposite side, just for the sake of taking the opposite side, but this thing is so wretched that nobody wants to defend it, not even anonymously.
Well, I personally think that the much needed face lift's lower contrast text makes the content blend in much more nicely with the background. The larger font also keeps too much information from being displayed at once. Less stories per page will make dupes less noticeable too. Personally, I can't find a single thing not wrong with it.
Re:Beta sucks! (Score:4, Insightful)
Honestly, that's what surprises me more than anything when I see some web property being churned without obvious reason. Unless the backend is utterly fucked (in which case churning the frontend is Not where you should be spending your time) letting it coast along on commodified and encheapened 'cloud' VMs from one vendor or another is cheap, and can be drawn down at almost a moment's notice without having to hold a firesale on your datacenter gear. Given that, watching somebody who appears to have no clue what they want to accomplish voluntarily paying additional dev and/or designer salaries when they could just let the property coast always makes me wonder about that person or organization's sanity.
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All they need to do to turn Slashdot's fortunes around is get some editors. Not /. editors, I mean real ones. Ones that can spot typos, find less biased links for stories, tidy up summaries and that sort of thing.
Re:Beta sucks! (Score:4, Insightful)
The new managers don't use Slashdot themselves, hence probably don't understand the reason for all the disdain. The best thing they could do right now is write off the beta exercise as a failure and stick with the classic version. Showing that they're actually listening to the (remaining) Slashdot faithful would be a good sign.
Surprisingly shitty (Score:5, Informative)
I just got the "hey go check out beta" alert. I figured it would be the same with with different underhood. WOW this is shit. And sure enough, I had to enable scripting. Bro, it's fucking COMMENTS. It doesn't need java, or script, or javafuckingscript.
This could be the death of this site. Sad. Been browsing this since early college.
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Even Windows 8 and iOS 7 have some fans...
The Japanese have a saying that there are even bugs which eat knotweed, meaning there will always be someone who likes even the most unpalatable thing. Apparently Slashdot Beta proves centuries of handed down wisdom wrong.
Re:Beta sucks! (Score:5, Funny)
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You forgot the backups but who are we going to find to talk to the NSA about that? :P
-- Common Joe
Slashdot Valentines Day Massacre: Boycott Slashdot because "Fuck Beta!": February 10 - 17
And Support Okian Warrior's Alternate Slashdot [slashdot.org] Idea!
Re:Beta sucks! (Score:5, Insightful)
Holy Crap! I just tried Beta. It's pretty bad. I wouldn't call it as horrifying as some, but it is really quite bad from a design perspective.
But here's my main complaint: You can't read comments without Javascript enabled. Javascript is really cool, it's great for creating dynamic web pages. Things like OpenStreetMap [openstreetmap.org] have made my life fundamentally better when doing dynamic content perusal.
But there's a gap there; reading a comment tree is not dynamic content perusal. I click my desired mod level, then read the entire tree without any changes. Occasionally I pop open a new tab to reply to an existing comment, but that is rare enough that it can be done with static pages.
I don't enable Javascript by default, and I don't enable it on sites that don't need it. It's a security thing, like not leaving services running that you don't need. It's also about not chewing up memory and CPU for dancing baloney.
The value of Slashdot is the community comments. That is why I come here. It is why I spend so much time carefully crafting and editing comments that I hope will add to the experience for others (and often censoring my more bile-laden knee-jerk responses that would make it a more combustible environment).
Like so many members of the Slashdot community, I put a lot into making this a place that people like to visit. And I am happy for Dice to make a profit selling ad space on the comments that my community creates, in exchange for playing host. That's a pretty good trade all around. Don't fuck it up.
Everything I wanted to say about Beta (Score:2)
You said everything I wanted to say, and posted about, regarding beta.
While many rail at it because of white space and what not, my main beef is requiring javascript.
Let me explain ...
I have been a regular visitor to Slashdot for around 15 years. For that, I get the checkbox to disable ads, though I browse with Javascript disabled so my browser does not slow down.
I come here for the discussions, and often read comments at +5, changing that only if I find a discussion interesting and warrants reading at a lo
Re: Beta sucks! Off Topic (Score:1)
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Beta sucks ass
Looks like some assburgers kid and an ADD dyslexic thalidomide kid designed it
This! (Score:2)
I got the nag today and went to the beta site, it's horrible. I don't like Slashdot on the Mobile phone for the same reason I dislike the Beta site. It's horrible to navigate compared to classic and wastes too much space.
If you want to push that gunk to the main page, at least leave this one as "classic.slashdot.com" so we can choose the best interface for us.
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Down with Beta! Leave Classic, or we'll go to Hacker News!
You've made your case, though it's not the one you thought you were making. Now fuck off back to reddit or post some more comments on Youtuber.
And take your PCmalware plugs with you (I think you know where you can stick them).
P.S. don't take that the wrong way.
Re:Beta sucks! (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Beta sucks! (Score:5, Funny)
I see it more akin to Microsoft Bob.
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I sort of miss Clippy and the other Office Assistants. Sure, I never used them and they mostly just got in the way, but I still kind of liked them
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Re:Beta sucks! (Score:4, Insightful)
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This 'beta' stuff has been poking its head out for months. All the feedback that's been given has basically been ignored. The level of frustration is clear.
This whole "Sayonara Classic" attitude from Dice is rather offensive considering the "original Classic" has been around for a long time without any problems.
It's not just that we're resistant to change. This "new and improved" /. is not improved for the end user. It may be a better ad delivery device, but ads are irrelevant if the user base leaves in dro
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There is FUtility in spamming the news until you get your way.
The usual Beta-feedback page will be posted a few times, and mods will happen. If you don't like it after that, who are you blaming? We've been here so many times...
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There is FUtility in spamming the news until you get your way.
The usual Beta-feedback page will be posted a few times, and mods will happen. If you don't like it after that, who are you blaming? We've been here so many times...
the community has been trying to give positive feed back and they just push forward a bad design anyway. This is a move that will hurt the slashdot brand and community.
Re:Beta sucks! (Score:5, Insightful)
There are many of us who have been providing *constructive* criticism for *many months* only to have it fall on deaf ears. Now that the beta is being forced on users in a graduated rollout you're going to be hearing these complaints more and more often until either:
1. The Slashdot admins capitulate and concede the beta was a giant mistake.
2. Slashdot Beta has functionality and usability parity with the standard site.
3. Those of us who absolutely hate the new site leave and never come back.
4. Comments complaining are stifled and silenced.
I'm thinking #3 is the most likely possibility.
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Alas, I suppose I just have better things to do with my time than spamming here.
Eat your own words.
Slashdot Beta = Digg v4 (Score:5, Insightful)
This site has been something special to a number of readers and posters here, and seeing the place go down in flames like Digg did when they ignored their users' feedback [wikipedia.org] is a highly suboptimal emotional experience.
Saying that turns the place into the kindergarten you wanted to avoid.
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If I recall correctly, you have some interesting comments from time to time so I'll respond. (And as always, with courtesy.)
You're right. The past 24 hours has turned into a kindergarten of sorts and I'm shouting too, but I don't think it will last long. I don't want to leave Slashdot and most others don't either. There is no better place at the moment. A lot of us have looked. There are still good things here, but they are about to be nuked with beta. When (if?) slashdot implodes, a lot of good comm
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Re:Beta sucks! (Score:4)
I'm going to skip writing them as others can more eloquently say what the problems are than I can. I certainly hope you're right.
If you do write them again, perhaps you can add this: I think they're biggest mistake was saying that they were going to force us onto the beta without rolling out all the major features first. Only after good feedback of all major features should they say that they are going to force us onto the beta... and then they should give us time to adapt. There are too many things wrong or not implemented to give the premature news that we're going to move whether we like it or not.
For the time being, I'm going to still boycott just to drive my point home.
-- Common Joe
Slashdot Valentines Day Massacre: Boycott Slashdot because "Fuck Beta!": February 10 - 17
And Support Okian Warrior's Alternate Slashdot [slashdot.org] Idea!
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these gmo mofos have been making life extremely hard for average joe farmer
Yeah, I'm sure their utter hatred for GE seed is why they keep buying and using it.