World-First Working Eukaryotic Cell Made From Plastic 109
Zothecula writes "Previously, chemists have managed to create artificial cell walls and developed synthetic DNA to produce self-replicating, synthetic bacterial cells. Now, for the first time, researchers have used polymers to produce an artificial eukaryotic cell capable of undertaking multiple chemical reactions through working organelles."
I'm sure one of them said it. (Score:5, Funny)
What scientist could resist? I picture one in the lab, cackling wildly, "It's alive. IT'S ALIVE!"
Re:I'm sure one of them said it. (Score:5, Funny)
I hope the next one said "You fools! You'll destroy us all!"
Re:I'm sure one of them said it. (Score:4, Funny)
Pfft, wake me when they have an artificial eukaryotic cell with four asses.
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"They laughed at me, you know, at the Institute. They called me mad!"
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no you're thinking of the nuclear membrane (or lack thereof) which is what prokaryot/eukaryot refers to. Every living thing contains DNA.
Re:Hmmm (Score:4, Insightful)
"Every living thing contains DNA."
That we know of.
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point still made.
Re:Hmmm (Score:5, Informative)
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Viruses. Virus has no Latin plural; viri is the nominative plural (also genitive singular and vocative plural) of vir [wiktionary.org].
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Say "viri" drives pendanti wild.
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Say "viri" drives pendanti wild.
Don't say "virii". Saying that indicates that you are trying hard to look more clever than you actually are by speaking in Latin, only to end up looking like an even bigger idiot than normal since you don't actually know Latin and just revealed that in public.
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At no point does that article actually state viruses have DNA. Not to mention it reads like an eight-year-old wrote it after reading some fairytale story.
Nevertheless, you were correct when you stated some viruses have DNA.
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At no point does that article actually state viruses have DNA. Not to mention it reads like an eight-year-old wrote it after reading some fairytale story.
Nevertheless, you were correct when you stated some viruses have DNA.
The title is Bacteria and viruses have DNA too.
I concur with the "for kids" writing style, but this is a thing they teach in low-numbered grade school.
I was going to state something stupid like, "everyone knows this." But... I know better...
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Ouch!
It was completely unnecessary to bring out the pimp hand for someone who was at least aware enough to correctly spell "slash dot" in semaphore code.
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Viruses have RNA.--
Sometimes it's fun to feed the trolls - it's a pleasure knowing there's someone out there who's stupider than you.
Let us know the moment that happens.
Re:Hmmm (Score:4, Insightful)
There are definitely RNA based viruses. It's debatable whether they qualify as "alive." Self-replicating RNA mollecules likely preceeded any DNA based life, whether you'd want to consider RNA replicating "life" is up to you.
Personally I'd agree that RNA based viruses are living.
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Re:Hmmm (Score:4, Insightful)
(* Well okay, there have been some extremely rare instances of mules reproducing, but as a general rule they're infertile)
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Fun fact: there is no clear definition of life that anyone can come up with.
Hey, mathematics exists, why not use that? Let us look at what life is and what it does in the most fundamental cybernetic sense: Life is information that is able to improve itself through existence and self reflection over time. More generally, Life is that which increases the complexity of the Universe.
There. Now all you have to do is re-brand "human rights" as "personal rights", and define 'personhood' in terms of complexity... Protip: If an entity can ask for rights it should have them.
Annnnd, Done!
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Have you heard of prions? They have no DNA or RNA. They're just misfolded proteins. However they can catalyse other correctly folded proteins to misfold too. So they can sorta kinda reproduce but they don't have any genes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prion [wikipedia.org]
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Sir, we are going to have to ask you to turn in your geek card and step away from the Internet Pipes...
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081210130756AA2GwcM [yahoo.com]
I am an artificial eukaryotic cell, too. (Score:3, Insightful)
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The unemployed engineer is a benign tumor. The soccer player is malignant.
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> a cancer within the body of your society! Muahahaha!
Only if you breed uncontrollably and quickly make many unemployed electrical engineers who won't move out and live in your basement. Otherwise, a phagocyte is on its way to pick you up :-).
Re:I am an artificial eukaryotic cell, too. (Score:4, Funny)
> breed uncontrollably
Oh wait. You are an engineer. Never mind.
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You forgot to cover the membrane bound nucleus (or nuclei since you presumably have two down there) hosting your genetic material - pretty important for the definition of a Eukaryote.
Not a cell (Score:5, Interesting)
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Re:Not a cell (Score:5, Insightful)
Blame the university's press department, as always. There's quite a jump in hyperbole between the Ange [wiley.com] and Nature Chem's comments [nature.com], versus the press release [www.ru.nl]. Why do journalists even read university press releases any more? You know they're going to be misleading.
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No, but a car isn't alive because no car can self-replicate.
Aside from that, I think you've strayed off topic. A mule is not a cell, and a human is not a cell. A vasectomy has no bearing whatsoever on whether a thing needs to be self-replicating in order to be a cell. The biological definition of cell given by wikipedia is "Cells are the smallest unit of life that can replicate independently, and are often called the "building blocks of life"." I'm sure you can find a definition that doesn't include sel
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No, but a car isn't alive because no car can self-replicate.
Who's the one straying off topic? A car isn't alive, not because of its inablity to self-replicate, but because it doesn't respond to stimuli, change in response to its envorinment, grow, etc. It's a simple machine. Life has stuck around for so long on Earth because it self-replicates, but that doesn't mean something needs to self-replicate in order for it to be alive. For me, whether this artificial cell can self-replicate has little bearing on its complexity. It can still be artificial life without that
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From wikipedia:
Biology
Since there is no unequivocal definition of life, the current understanding is descriptive. Life is considered a characteristic of organisms that exhibit all or most of the following characteristics or traits:[32][34][35]
1.Homeostasis: Regulation of the internal environment to maintain a constant state; for example, electrolyte concentration or sweating to reduce temperature.
2.Organization: Being structurally composed of one or more cells â" the basic units of life.
3.Metabolism: T
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The second part of mitosis (cell replication) is the cell itself splitting, cytokinesis. It [mbl.edu]
No, they did not (Score:5, Informative)
Again, the press release is misleading. Worse, it fires back on the real and great accomplishment by suggesting it is something that it is not.
The scientists managed to squeeze key enzymes into different minuscule compartments of a cell-like structure. That in itself is fascinating and a great achievement; but that doesn't make an eukaryotic cell. It does not replicate; it does not synthesize the lipid-like structures; it lacks a cytoskeleton and a complex organization; the reactions going on are few and very simple. It is as much an eukaryotic cell as a neural net algorithm is a working brain.
However, it has working enzymes within little bubbles within other bubbles, which can be called "compartmentalization", a feature of eukaryotic cells that distinguish them from bacterial cells.
Nonetheless, this is a considerable achievment that has both a practical side and is a working model with potential to make in vitro experiments helping to understand the processes that go on in the real cells.
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It's mind-boggling if you consider what it would take to actually create an artificial cell.
You would take the most advanced programmable manufacturing plant -- perhaps one that creates any drug and is yet to be designed. Not only would it have to be able to request supplies and may anything required to repair itself, and perhaps create a new factory, you would have to shrink it down to --- the size of a cell.
I think we will develop artificial intelligence well before we will ever create an artificial cell.
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I think we will develop artificial intelligence well before we will ever create an artificial cell. Borrowing the natural systems that have already perfected this process is quite a bit easier.
The popular assumption appears to be that cells (including neurons) are stupid and just react to their environment without much processing. And intelligence is mainly emergent from networks of neurons, and so many AI researchers work from those assumptions.
But as you said a cell is quite complicated. So it seems presumptuous to assume they're stupid without even knowing most of the details on how they make decisions. How does a white blood cell decide where to head to chase down a bacterium? Which part make
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So, it's a plastic primordial ooze... Hmm, that escalated quickly. [youtube.com]
And Blame!... (Score:1)
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Silicone != Silicon
When it can reproduce ... Skynet (Score:2)
This will be the technology that the dominant AI of the future will use ... to infiltrate our brains and make us mindless slaves to its will.
Nestene Consciousness anyone? (Score:1)
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Re:nerdgasm (Score:4, Funny)
I'm a third grader, you insensitive clod!
Re:nerdgasm (Score:5, Informative)
Actually, modding it informative would have been funnier than modding it funny
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I'm a third grader, you insensitive clod!
Well. based on today's standards, I could read at a 6th grade level in 3rd grade.
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I hope not, given that it's written at a 6th grade level and it's only two sentences. But hey, if you're a 5th grader that's probably pretty good!
Or a college athlete.
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I got almost all terms. But what is "working"? ;-)
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Activities that do not involve /.
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No.