The Lepsis Is a Terrarium For Growing Edible Insects At Home 184
An anonymous reader writes "A recent UN report suggested that people should be eating more insects, because they're much less harmful to the environment that traditional meat. In response, designer Mansour Ourasanah has created the Lepsis, a small insect breeder that could be used to grow and harvest grasshoppers in urban homes."
Shell fish might be better (Score:2)
I wonder what it would take to raise shellfish indoors. Probably not worth it economically, but I can't imagine home insect rearing would be cheaper than buying them from a large producer.
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Why indoors? Why not commoditize it and automate it as a part of one's home?
Imagine a replacement window, which is an aquarium, which plus into one's electric and has a small computer to monitor food levels &c., as well as a wireless connection to one's broadband to report on conditions inside the tank.
One pays to have the window installed, plus a monthly fee to have the aquarium serviced and topped off from the outside through a locked access panel (there's a second set of locks on the inside panel, on
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Eating bugs is gross! (Score:5, Funny)
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I watched a documentary once about some scientists stranded in the jungle who'd been collecting giant bugs of some sort. They ended up eating their samples they were so hungry. One of them said that they tasted a lot like lobster.
Great Potential (Score:2)
It could also be used to breed extra-noxious stink bugs for en-masse deployment at bachelor parties, graduations, and other prime prank targets.
Or would the NSA brand me a terrorist?
Eating insects? (Score:2)
What's wrong with soy, tempeh and other alternatives? Don't tell me people need to eat meat to live, look at places like India.
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This might be competitive cost wise.
Soy is fine, but tempeh is just inedible. People do not need a lot of things to live, but what is wrong with eating insects? It is not like they have the complex nervous systems that animals have. They can almost surely not even feel pain, they are practically simple biological machines.
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This might be competitive cost wise.
Soy is fine, but tempeh is just inedible. People do not need a lot of things to live, but what is wrong with eating insects?
I find it strange that you call tempeh (which is, by the way, made of soy) inedible, but you feel you could stomach insects.
Of course it's subjective, but I find tempeh pretty easy to enjoy, whereas I can can see how tofu is an acquired taste.
Whole insects - that turns my stomach. Something I know to be ground-up insects, also turns my stomach. I can handle small amounts of insect matter as an additive (e.g. cochineal) or a contaminant. Yeah, I'd give it a go - I've eaten all sorts of things to be macho -
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It has a taste like peanuts, which I find to be horrible.
I like tofu just fine. I find nothing disturbing about eating insects.
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What's wrong with soy, tempeh and other alternatives?
The taste.
Don't tell me people need to eat meat to live, look at places like India.
I don't need meat to live. Eating meat is among reasons I _enjoy_ living.
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Why not learn from the 3rd world? (Score:2)
They do it [blogspot.ca] well.
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Some of us like the idea of progress, you know. Holding up the 3rd world [Also, Dude, 3rd world is not the preferred nomenclature. Undeveloped world, please] as some shining example of where we should be heading doesn't appeal to many people in our society.
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Why not if they are happier than the so called developed ones?" [henrymakow.com]
Is it prejudice, no?
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Or do you think that the colonization of space will be led by subsistence farmers from Paraguay?
why not garden and have chickens instead? (Score:4, Interesting)
also if you have a yard, you could parcel off a small bit of it for a chicken coop for not too much money and grow your own eggs / chickens
I think I'll probably try things like that before I raise insects for food.
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Chickens are vile creatures. They shit everywhere and are in general pretty much horrible. I have seen them peck giant gaping wounds into each other. So not only are they terrible to non-chickens, they are equally bad to other chickens.There is no way grasshoppers are that filthy or evil.
Also many urban and suburban areas thankfully have zoning that does not allow the keeping of chickens. I would rather not be woken up at 4am because you don't want to go to the store to buy eggs.
I would probably rather eat
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I never said that.
I just would rather not be around the damn things.
I would prefer to eat cleaner animals though.
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These chickens had acres of room. They still insisting on pecking at each other and eating their own feces. I would rather not be involved at all with such foul fowl.
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The behavior you describe is abnormal. They are establishing dominance over each other - something that should have been sorted out quickly years ago. And healthy chickens certainly have no interest in eating feces.
Did they have sand available to them? (Score:2)
Or small sharp stones?
Chickens don't have teeth.
Instead, they ingest small stones, sand, and other coarse material and they keep it in their gizzard [wikipedia.org] to grind the food with.
If you were keeping them on a concrete or grassy surface they were very likely forced to eat their own poop just to fill their gizzards with anything coarse.
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The reason is because they are broccoli on legs.
The fix is to kill and eat the bastards and not replace them.
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But the three dozen eggs a week taste better, and no, I couldn't buy eggs that taste this good from any store. I can buy chicken from the store that tastes, well, like chicken, so I buy the chicken meat and grow the eggs.
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I am not being sarcastic.
They are filthy animals and I have no need for them. At least a pig given a chance will keep itself clean.
That solution is actually the one we used.
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Please show me these clean and nice chickens. I have seen them in other locations. They shit everywhere, eating feces is commonly reported online as well.
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Austin's ordinances allow for roosters under the caveat of the noise ordinance, which means that they are okay unless someone complains about the noise. Even in the center of town, we only have one neighbor, and they like our chickens, and we have a Serama rooster, who fully-sized is about nine inches tall, and who is quieter than the hens or the wild birds or the neighborhood dogs and cats.
Re:why not garden and have chickens instead? (Score:4, Insightful)
many people have lawns. Lawns are mowed to look nice. Nice looking lawns are not useful for food production. Kill the grass and plant the whole yard with food for your family, and then maybe they won't have to eat bugs.
also if you have a yard, you could parcel off a small bit of it for a chicken coop for not too much money and grow your own eggs / chickens
In most municipalities, you can't really raise chickens. E.g where I live chickens cannot be kept within ~100 feet of a dwelling structure.
Gardening is usually doable though! Unless you are under a super obnoxious HOA, you can usually get away with a food-garden.
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Here it's 50 feet from a dwelling on an adjacent property, but you can keep them near your own dwelling no problem. That's enough space for many houses, even in suburban areas - provided there's no HOA of course.
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The whole reason people have lawns is to show off that they own land and that they're so rich they don't have to farm on it. Let me also remind you that this whole eating bugs idea is for poor countries that don't have enough food to go around, not us Americans. We have too much food.
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it's definitely better than eating bugs. previous reply person "h4rr4r" can have all of my share of bugs and I will keep the vile creatures
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Yeah, city slicker. That is why I know this about chickens.
Listen redneck, I raised them and it sucked. None of those are fun things, but I have done them all. There is nothing good about doing any of them either. Anyone who thinks there is, is simply falling to the noble savage BS.
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Chickens don't have AM feeding requirements. And chicken manure is only a problem if you are keeping too many of them in cramped space with insufficient litter - probably because you're thinking about a farm with a coop big enough to work in, which is 0% like a backyard coop with deep litter for a half dozen chickens who can also roam the yard during the day.
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Even a coop big enough to work in, and a flock of around 30 chickens isn't too bad. But they need to have enough space, or things DO get bet.
Actually, if you've got enough space, you almost don't need to care for them. Separate the losers of fights until they recover, a bit of food (though with enough space they'll mainly find their own. Still, you want them to accept you, and to lock them in the coop at night, so you don't lose a bunch to raccoons or skunks. And you need to have fresh water available.
Re: illegal chickens (Score:2)
I'm looking for a new home now, so it's good to keep the cancerous liability of city ordinances in mind.
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You live next to a guy who decides to turn is backyard into a giant chicken coop and I'm sure you'd change your mind about that. Those zoning laws are about expectation for home buyers. It's one thing if you're rural, totally another if you go "hog wild" in your suburban back yard.
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See, you don't get it. We live far enough away so that if the guy turns his backyard into a giant chicken coop we don't even notice.
Effective? (Score:2)
I'm sure my HOA won't mind at all if I set one of these up and create a personal plague of winged insects to fill my belly and do my bidding.
"Fly, grasshoppers! Vanquish my enemies and bring back all the yummy meat from their refrigerators!"
Hmmm... This Lepsis thing might actually work.
Well, great. (Score:2)
More meat for everyone else.
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I have incisors, which means I was designed for meat. I also have molars which means I can grind pulp and veggies.
To deny either denies what my body was made for.
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You also have canines to keep your squirming, live prey from breaking the vice-like grip of your jaws. I get your point, though.
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Agreed. "Design" is more of a theological/religious viewpoint. Not my intention.
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I don't think you have a clue how bugs will be consumed if/when they are. The won't be raised on small farms and sold/eaten whole. They'll be produced in huge industrial plants where the process can be mostly automated. They'll then be processed and ground up in to a paste and sold as a protein product to be made in to other food. Gross? Yeah, but that's pretty much how the meat packing industry works now anyway. Meat is often an industrial processed product, thus the "pink goo".
The only thing that separate
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I thought the whole point of the bugs was a bit of protein and animal fat. isn't that the point of steak? just make it taste good and look like a burger. it's not like broccoli would fill that role ever... maybe if you genetically engineer the broccoli to consist of animal proteins and fat.
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... maybe if you genetically engineer the broccoli to consist of animal proteins and fat.
If I could make bacon out of broccoli, well, you'd see quite the garden in my yard!
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That's an easy process.
1. Buy a pig
2. Feed it broccoli (& other stuff)
3. Slaughter pig
4. Salt & cure bacon.
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most bugs dont contain anything more than protein and a bit of fat,
Neither do most animals. If you want vitamins, that's what vegetables are for.
Blatant misinformation (Score:2)
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Are we seriously so opposed to broccoli and other vegetables much loathed as children that we're going to eat bugs instead?
No, I'm going to have a hamburger or a steak. I have no idea why "UN says people should eat bugs to have less impact on the environment" would lead to anybody actually eating bugs.
terrorarium (Score:2)
No. No no no. I assure you. It isn't.
People will be okay with this (Score:2)
Just mash them and make them look like a hamburger. It's not like we need to process these bugs in a way that they still look like bugs.
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Interesting idea. How about using the bugs (properly prepared and ground) as an additive to ground animal meats?
The result would be a higher protein/lower fat meat that, with the animal meat would look and probably taste similar to pure animal meat.
I'd be fine with something like that (labelled accurately of course), but I've eaten grasshoppers in the past (combining them with animal meat would go a long way to making it a more pleasant experience, but that's just my cultural bias...).
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Or feed them to your fish and chickens.
Let the UN eat bugs (Score:2)
I tell you what, when the UN converts all its restaurants and cafeterias to raise and serve insects then get back to us.
The only way is a slow, cultural change (Score:2)
The only people who are going to go out an eat a bug are the very daring Fear Factor types. Heck, I know rural kids who won't touch seafood because they never grew up w/ it and the smells/sights are off-putting. But, in a country were there's nothing close to a food shortage, good luck promoting a new, very small, very gross alternative!
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Guess it depends on how hungry you get... (Score:2)
When McBurgers are readily and cheaply available I doubt you'll see a huge increase in insects in our diet. The parts of the world where bugs are common in the diet are also places that can't afford to raise cattle and pigs etc. As contrary and diverse as our Western culture has become it might be possible to introduce this as a 'cool' alternative, at least in part. Personally I've eaten grasshopper and ants. Both were presented as delicacies, the ants as chocolates and I don't even recall how I ate the
it's all about.. (Score:2)
this is more work than they think (Score:2)
I spent a good many years of my life taking care of reptiles. Part of this involved growing all kinds of food items from fruit flies to cockroaches. Most of these things turn their housings into a shit encrusted shell relatively quickly. it's not the kind of thing you want in the kitchen. It also quickly turns into a ton of work. You'd have to be feeding your bugs every day, cleaning up
Problems (Score:2)
1) This is much too small to grow enough bugs to make anything but a light snack once every few weeks/months.
2) Bugs stink. Any kind of bug- try raising them in any quantity and you'll quickly be turned off by the smell.
Spirulina (Score:2)
Why would you eat something as repulsive as insects when you can eat spirulina [wikipedia.org]? It's a perfect food. You could eat nothing but spirulina for the rest of your life and have all your nutritional needs satisfied. It's an easy additive to smoothies, puddings, soups, and anything else. It doesn't taste like much on its own, so it blends well with other ingredients. So it's a much lower bar than eating a worm, grasshopper, or any other insect.
Snails (Score:2)
A lot of people around the world enjoy eating snails (l'escargot). And, apparently they are quite easy to grow for yourself! Don't bother going to an expensive French restaurant and paying tens of dollars for six or twelve snails. Spend that cash on a terrarium, put some various stuff in it, put snails in, and feed them regularly on a diet of fresh greens. Soon they'll be big enough to chow down on.
Can I save $$ eating bugs? (Score:2)
Let's say I'm gungho for incorporating bugs into my diet. Seriously, let's just make this assumption to consider things a bit here. Next, let's assume I'm completely selfish and care not at all about "the environment". That is, let's just even the playing field and evaluate "bugs" just on the merits regarding two factors: nutritional benefit; cost (to me).
Now... why would I want to eat bugs again? For protein? Let's assume so. These days, it seems protein goes from about 4 cents a gram (dairy, etc.) u
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It would seem you could reduce this cost to next to nothing by growing these critters yourself, as in the Lepsis. But that's silly. You still have to feed the critters.
They're insects. Do you think you have to go out and buy quality, expensive feed? I presume they'd feed on plant life and leftovers you've got lying around.
No ants please! (Score:2)
Please don't eat the ants especially covered with chocolate, honey pot species, etc. :P
Fire Marketing (Score:2)
I have an idea, let's name it like a horrible medical condition!
That'll get consumers to accept it!
Re:I'm sorry, but... (Score:5, Funny)
I wouldn't mind, but if I get to raise them myself I couldn't bear to eat them. Look at those cute little mandibles. Look at them!
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First, you'll hear reports about people who can't bear to eat their precious grasshoppers, so they have been returning them to the wild.
Then, you'll hear about the swarms of locusts devastating the countryside.
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Any guesses as to how long it will be before Ingrid Newkirk gets her panties in a wad over this? I mean, after all, considering her love of lobster tails...
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That's the point. Even putting them into the fridge to kill them (as in this concept) is something lots of people wouldn't want to do.
Then again, two hundred years ago, most people did kill their own farm animals prior to eating them, so it very much is a cultural thing.
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I will not be incorporating any insects aside from water crustaceans into my diet.
You probably already have bugs in your diet. Did you ever eat cherry yogurt? Check he ingredients. It probably lists carmine [wikipedia.org], which is made from beetles.
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You probably already have bugs in your diet. Did you ever eat cherry yogurt? Check he ingredients. It probably lists carmine [wikipedia.org], which is made from beetles.
There are trace amounts of virtually anything in our food. By your own logic, UN should recommend developing nations to practice cannibalism because we engage in autocannibalism every day by means of digestion of flakes of epithelial cells separated from the inner lining of our mouths.
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You didn't read his link, did you? The red coloring carmine, is ground up beetles.
This isn't casual ingestion of a few incidental particles, this is an actual, listed ingredient. As in they already are intentionally using insects.
This isn't trace amounts of stuff which you can't avoid. I suspect if most people knew that most foods which have been dyed red are that color due to the presence of insects, they'd be less enthusiastic.
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You didn't read his link, did you? The red coloring carmine, is ground up beetles.
You didn't read his link, did you? The red coloring carmine is a single chemical compound that is derived from another compound extracted from the beetles by means of extensive purification. There are no "ground up beetles" in the food any more than there were "ground up pigs" in porcine insulin when that was used (and nowadays, there's no Escherichia coli in the synthesised insulin that diabetic patients get injected with).
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Read your own link... (Score:2)
Like the production part.
The carminic acid used to produce the pigment can also be extracted from various microbes engineered for the purpose. Microbes are dissolved in a containment structure separate from their cultivation vats, and then allowed to settle out. The liquid and suspended carminic acid is then siphoned off, and metal salts are then added to give a lake pigment in a procedure that is mostly identical to the procedure for acid extracted from insects.
Also, the European Union bit:
As of January, 2012, the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) has changed the way they manufacture Carmine E120 for pharmaceutical products. The EFSA had raised concerns, over the increasing number of allergic reactions to Carmine derived from insects (E120.360), when used within the British pharmacopeia. Pharmaceutical products which had previously contained insect-derived carmine, have been replaced with a synthesised version of the food colorant.
Bullshit. (Score:2)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmine#Production [wikipedia.org]
The carminic acid used to produce the pigment can also be extracted from various microbes engineered for the purpose. Microbes are dissolved in a containment structure separate from their cultivation vats, and then allowed to settle out. The liquid and suspended carminic acid is then siphoned off, and metal salts are then added to give a lake pigment in a procedure that is mostly identical to the procedure for acid extracted from insects.
Aslo, it has been synthesized since the '90s. [rsc.org]
Excellent! You have solved the obesity problem! (Score:2)
Since the '90s the US has eaten this synthetic & has also gained a massive obesity spike. Its synthetic nature benefits no one. We don't need fake color to confuse minds into thinking they're seeing fruit.
Would love to see the studies you're basing that claim on.
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Sure, which fact bothers you:
- More dies eaten per American after 1990 than before.
- No claims of health benefits in dies
- Dies are mostly used with artificial fruit flavor
- Died candies, sodas, etc have more calories than fruit &/or water they're simulating, especially when considering the absorption effects of fruit fiber.
- Weight gain (thus, obesity) is based on excessive caloric intake.
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You might not, but I am pretty interested in the idea. The only concern I have is taste vs price.
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I have started to think about the "yuck" factor also in regard to all animals. When you look at how cows, pigs, chickens, etc. are raised, fed and "processed" by food factories... and look at the blood and gore and what goes into what you end up eating... it's pretty disgusting.
I've mostly become a vegan (with some fish).
Also, animal fat (even from organic, free range, etc. animals) is just really bad for you... heart disease, stroke, high blood pressure, cancer, etc.
Re:I'm sorry, but... (Score:4, Insightful)
A proper meat eater isn't put off by blood and gore.
I've eaten pig in the farmhouse next to which it was raised, and let me tell you, we enjoyed it all the more for knowing exactly where it had come from.
Yes, it's cultural and conditioned, and if we'd been brought up eating insects we might find the idea of grasshopper mouth-watering. However, most of us were not.
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I've mostly become a vegan (with some fish).
Me too!... apart from hamburger, pork, chicken, steak, bacon, eggs, veal, etc. (It counts as vegan if the animals you eat are herbivores, right?)
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(It counts as vegan if the animals you eat are herbivores, right?)
Eat Healthy: Eat Vegetarians!
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Also, animal fat (even from organic, free range, etc. animals) is just really bad for you... heart disease, stroke, high blood pressure, cancer, etc.
Wrong bucko! Wheat is the killer causing those diseases, that and the low fat diet that has plagued this country since the USDA started telling us how to eat (lot of whole grains). Grains are sugars, that's why kids like bread. That way of eating profits agro-chemical companies to the detriment of our health and that of the environment.
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I have been a hunter all of my life so part of the routine when I kill an animal is gutting and butchering it myself. For me and for anyone who works in an animal processing industry, the blood and gore associated with the meat is simply a step that has to be gone through in order to obtain the animal's meat for cooking and eating. Ultimately as slim has pointed out, this is a conditioned th
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My "yuck" factor was raised not so much by the blood and gore of slaughter (which I realize is part of the process) but by the practices of factory farms which include inhumane overcrowding, diseased animals (and antibiotics to treat them), antibiotic resistant bacterial contamination, unsanitary processing, mixing meats from animals of dubious origin and health together (most hamburger is a melange of meat from different countries with little knowledge of its provenance) and long time storage and shipping.
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I think the "yuck" factor comes mostly from insects being associated with rot, disease, and dead bodies. We don't have that sort of historical association with sea bugs as human sanitary threats, seen by a lot less people getting squicked out by those compared to land bugs.
Re:I'm sorry, but... (Score:4, Informative)
I am something of a "character" I guess. I'll eat anything on the menu. During AIT we also ate insects. I mention that because I want to tell you that I have eaten insects and, frankly, they're not that good. The only "good" one I have found was the chocolate covered ant, because I couldn't taste the ant.
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Well, fresh raw tiger swallowtail butterflies taste sort of like watermelon (take the legs and wings off first) and live wood grubs are slightly sweet and actually kind of delicious (ground grubs, though, are gritty and taste muddy) but ants taste of formic acid, and they latch on to your tongue-bumps with their mandibles if you eat them live, so you end up scraping ant-heads off your tongue with your teeth.
I hear big spiders are tasty, but haven't tried any.
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I have to disagree with you there; I can only recall eating two forms of prepared insects, but they have both been great. Roasted Peruvian jungle grubs were juicer than most meats I've tried and Australian Lemon Ants tasted like sweet lemons (I don't know the proper names of either of those). I also have a few friends who've been brave enough to eat various forms of fried or roasted insects and liked them. Raw animal meats are kinda weird, so I think it is only appropriate that I compare the prepared forms
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The worms and flies that my chickens eat are pretty damn tasty two days later, fried with some salsa.