Trip To Mars Could Damage Astronauts' Brains 505
Hugh Pickens writes writes "Alex Knapp reports that research by a team at the Rochester Medical Center suggests that exposure to the radiation of outer space could accelerate the onset of Alzheimer's disease in astronauts. 'Galactic cosmic radiation poses a significant threat to future astronauts... Exposure to ... equivalent to a mission to Mars could produce cognitive problems and speed up changes in the brain that are associated with Alzheimer's disease' says M. Kerry O'Banio. Researchers exposed mice with known timeframes for developing Alzheimer's to the type of low-level radiation that astronauts would be exposed to over time on a long space journey. The mice were then put through tests that measured their memory and cognitive ability and the mice exposed to radiation showed significant cognitive impairment. It's not going to be an easy problem to solve, either. The radiation the researchers used in their testing is composed of highly charged iron particles, which are relatively common in space. 'Because iron particles pack a bigger wallop it is extremely difficult from an engineering perspective to effectively shield against them,' says O'Banion. 'One would have to essentially wrap a spacecraft in a six-foot block of lead or concrete.'"
Re:Not that big a problem. (Score:5, Informative)
Re:What about the trip to the moon? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Another reason we're stuck on this blue planet (Score:0, Informative)
If you don't want to be modded 'flamebait' don't post flamebait comments?
Re:Had this conversation a million times... (Score:5, Informative)
One of the truly sad stories about Neil Armstrong post moon-walk: Up until 1994, he was carefully fulfilling all the autograph requests and would spend a couple of hours a day signing his own name. The reason he stopped was because people were requesting autographs (which were basically free + postage) and then selling the signed item for big bucks.
Re:Another reason we're stuck on this blue planet (Score:2, Informative)
OTOH there is already plenty of matter in space so launching it from Earth seems a bit pointless.
Robotic asteroid mining is probably easier than a manned trip to Mars so it shouldn't be impossible to do it as a part of the larger mission.
Re:The Trap, Yourself (Score:4, Informative)
Even the most hostile environments on earth usually have at least SOME oxygen, water, soil, air pressure
The moon even has most of those.
Mars has all of them.
Martian soil doesn't have humus, it's just sand and rocks. Mars isn't capable of retaining an earth-like atmpsphere because the solar wind will blow off the light oxygen molecules from the top of it. Agriculture has to be done in airtight pressurized rooms, water is only available in ice form and even that only at the poles.
So it has all of them, it just depends on your definition of soil, water. Oh, sorry you don't have oxygen either.
irradiation wasn't quite the same as a mars trip (Score:5, Informative)
From the paper, you noticed that they irradiated the mice very quickly.
"using a foam tube holder positioned at the center of a 20×20 cm beam of iron ions accelerated to 1 GeV/ at a dose rate ranging from 0.1–1 Gy/min. Male mice received total doses of either 10 cGy or 100 cGy. Female mice received only a 100 cGy dose."
1Gy/min is a lot dose in a very short period. So for the female they gave all the dose in a timeframe measured in mins. At lower dose rates, cells repair the DNA damage better. I think that lower dose rates would be more likely to occur in a mars trip.
For those without much radiation background, 100cGy delivered in 1 min isn't the same as 100cGy delivered over 6 months.
It's more complicated than tat (Score:5, Informative)
The moon is still slightly protected by earths magnetic field. The field doesn't just suddenly end; inverse square law, and all that.
Actually, the moon is usually not protected by the earth's magnetic field. The earth's magnetic field is greatly affected by solar wind so that the part of the field projecting towards the sun is squished and the part away from the sun forms a long "tail"
If you look at this website [nasa.gov], you can see that the moon only spends about 6 days/month inside the earth's magnetic tail.
Not only that, extremely dilute atmospheric particles have been discovered on the far side of the moon - the moon is technically inside Earth's atmosphere.
I think this is just false. Although some missions have detected traces of an atmosphere on parts of the moon (e.g., Apollo detected Argon, O2, CO2, CH4, etc, and LRO detected H3), these are thought to be from outgassing or sputtering from material inside the moon itself. The reason that some of them are similar to earth atmopheric components are that the earth-moon system may have actually been formed from prehistoric collision [wikipedia.org]
Re:Another reason we're stuck on this blue planet (Score:5, Informative)
Re:The Trap, Yourself (Score:4, Informative)
That's not remotely the only serious problem.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effect_of_spaceflight_on_the_human_body#The_effects_of_weightlessness [wikipedia.org]
Re:The Trap, Yourself (Score:5, Informative)