Captive Beluga Was Able To Mimic Speech 103
ananyo writes "'Who told me to get out?' asked a diver, surfacing from a tank in which a whale named NOC lived. The beluga's caretakers had heard what sounded like garbled phrases emanating from the enclosure before, and it suddenly dawned on them that the whale might be imitating the voices of his human handlers. The outbursts began in 1984 and lasted for about four years, until NOC hit sexual maturity. NOC likely learned to imitate humans by listening to them speak underwater and on the surface. The whale's human-like calls are several octaves lower than normal whale calls, a similar pitch to human speech. Researchers trained NOC to 'speak' on command, and determined that he makes the sounds by increasing the pressure of the air that courses through his nasal cavities. They think that he then modified the sounds by manipulating the shape of his phonic lips, small vibrating structures that sit above each nasal cavity. A recording of NOC's speech is embedded in the story. He sounds remarkably like a kazoo."
He was really saying... (Score:5, Funny)
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Or he was saying:
"Ahhh! Woooh! What's happening? Who am I? Why am I here? What's my purpose in life? What do I mean by who am I? Okay okay, calm down calm down get a grip now. Ooh, this is an interesting sensation. What is it? Its a sort of tingling in my... well I suppose I better start finding names for things. Lets call it a... tail! Yeah! Tail!..."
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Indeed. I have a bird that talks better than me and it has only a brain the size of a pea.
Don't know what that says about me.
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>the human language. ...the what ? You're aware that the species known as "homo sapience" or colloquially "human" have more than one language right ?
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That's because you never read The Guide. http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0007558/quotes Infinite Improbability FTW!
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Whoooooooooooooooosh.
If you are on Slashdot then you should recognise a Douglas Adams quotation, please hand in your geek card on the way out.
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This is what the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy has to say about the original post. "The original post was not funny, despite the desperate attempt to make a connection to a popular work of comedic fiction on the part of its author. It was, however, only not funny because a Beluga is a species of whale, not any kind of dolphin."
The article goes on to say, "It is well known that Beluga whales are the only kind of Earth whale that eats caviar, hence the name. They became extinct, however, when the Earth
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Re:naval cavity? (Score:5, Funny)
Whoever taught you Eskimo kisses played a mean joke.
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Okay, first off, sounds made with noses are not called farts. Farts come from the other end of a mammal's anatomy.
More importantly, what the hell is a naval cavity? Is it like a whirlpool? The Mariana Trench? A misspelled reference to a hole in your belly? I thought you might have meant "nasal", but then you went and called it "naval" in the body of your post as well, so I guess I was wrong.
Sounds like the Swedish Chef (Score:2)
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... anyone remember SeaQuest DSV? ;)
Yes, I do now.
Thanks~
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It's actually a sarcastimark, and it's a thing. Get used to it. (It really does come in handy, and there's nothing else that does the job so easily and succinctly.)
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No. You don't get to repurpose typemarks just because you feel like it.
You may understand what you want, but we won't.
After all: Am I asking a question right now! (doesn't work does it?)
Re:Sounds Like He's Singing (Score:5, Funny)
anyone remember SeaQuest DSV? ;)
Thanks, I was in the process of repurposing those neurons, now I have to start all over again.
obligatory (Score:2)
I for one welcome our speech mimicing beluga whale overlords.
Naval cavities? (Score:1)
Whoa! Not only can he talk, but he does it through his belly button!
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Rote Mimicry vs Comprehension? (Score:2)
Across many species the ability to mimic other creatures is commonplace. In this case, the notion that the beluga was "trained" makes it difficult to assess whether there was actual comprehension of the meaning and/or purpose of the mimicked sound(s). This makes the story nothing more than a parallel to circus-trained animal stories.
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Across many species the ability to mimic other creatures is commonplace. In this case, the notion that the beluga was "trained" makes it difficult to assess whether there was actual comprehension of the meaning and/or purpose of the mimicked sound(s). This makes the story nothing more than a parallel to circus-trained animal stories.
Considering NOC (the beluga) provided the stimulus and the human diver got out of the tank, I agree with you.
NOC has those divers trained like circus animals. I doubt they comprehend the beluga's pleasure at seeing them perform.
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Re:Rote Mimicry vs Comprehension? (Score:5, Interesting)
I see no reason to think from this that the beluga had any comprehension of human speech; the sounds he produced don't seem to have any real meaning, and I'm skeptical that he could have discerned any meaning in the sounds of humans talking to each other from the limited context of them.
However... given the brain capacity of the animal (greater than a simple mimic like a parrot), I do wonder whether he was actually making a crude, conscious attempt to communicate. He may have been adjusting his pitch and sounds to match what he was hearing, in much the same way that stupid humans will speak their own language with a foreign accent when trying to communicate with someone who speaks another language, or in the same way that humans will bark or meow at pets, in a playful attempt at communicating with them in their own language. That is, he may have figured out that these sounds humans make are a form of (possibly intelligent) communication – much like we figured out the same regarding whale songs – and he was trying to show that he understood that fact by making similar sounds.
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Who are you calling a simple mimic? Parrots have been shown to understand concepts. To have the ability to generalize from concrete instances. To create abstractions. Categories. And possibly to plan for the future as well.
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Who are you calling a simple mimic? Parrots have been shown to understand concepts. To have the ability to generalize from concrete instances. To create abstractions. Categories. And possibly to plan for the future as well.
Citation needed.
In 'Broca's Brain', Carl Sagan mentioned that the great apes (uh . not us) can learn sign language and communicate with us in that shared language - even to the extent of creating phrases for 'duck' (Water-bird). Now that is understanding concepts, etc.
Parrots? I don't buy it. Yet.
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You never saw Alex?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXoTaZotdHg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_%28parrot%29
Re:Rote Mimicry vs Comprehension? (Score:5, Informative)
Google Irene Pepperberg and Alex the African Grey. IIRC, Alex tested at about the same level as a 2 year old human.
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Beautiful plumage too.
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Brutus? (Score:1)
Re:Creepy... (Score:5, Informative)
Beluga whales, like all marine mammals, breathe air.
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He can't do Mariachi, but he's quite popular on Karaoke night at the nearby watering hole.
Bork, bork, bork! (Score:3)
It's a swedish fish!
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What Interests Me Is When It Stopped (Score:4, Funny)
The outbursts began in 1984 and lasted about four years, until NOC hit sexual maturity.
If only people were like that: all talk until they hit sexual maturity and suddenly realize they don't know anything. People just keep on talking, as evidenced by the slashdot crowd, who... Oh... wait. This explains so much...
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It's like human children. They start off admiring and imitating their parents. Then one day upon reaching puberty they realize that parents are dorks who don't understand them.
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Not a bad stunt... (Score:2)
...but could it say "Jesus is watching you"?
It could have been worse... (Score:2)
So Let's See If I Got This Right... (Score:5, Funny)
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Speciesism... (Score:3)
NOC? -- Unleash the Acronyms (Score:4, Interesting)
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And here I was wondering exactly how they fit the whale into the network operation center!
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Good for NOC (Score:2, Interesting)
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...revel in the suffering of others...
Killer whales like to torture baby seals in training their young to hunt: they are quite capable in reveling in suffering, if what looks like play (serious training, but play nonetheless) by them, when they are training young (just as we train young in "play", and enjoy it) is also "play" to them.
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Do you also hold hopes of having intelligent conversations with a parrot or mocking bird?
There's a huge difference between mimicking sounds and understanding linguistics.
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Well, it can't bloody learn anymore. It died, in 2007.
The real question is, you're still alive what have you learned?
Gehhhhht Ouuuut! (Score:2)
New Ringtone (Score:1)
Parrots: relax (Score:5, Funny)
While the Beluga are aquatic, probably smarter, and definitely cuter than you, they are unlikely to replace you in the hearts of you pirate brethren.
Mainly because at 5.5 meters (18 feet) long and at 1,600 kg (3,500 pounds), they do not fit on the shoulder of your average pirate.
However, it is likely that the elder pirate gods, in their watery realm, prefer Beluga companions over parrots
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the average beluga has a vocabulary size of 6.3 picoLoCs
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| While the Beluga are aquatic, probably smarter...
Probably smarter? They learned how to speak our language before we learned theirs! Despite us unleashing an army of scientists and amusement park employees on them; we still have to use whistles, and they have figured out what we mean when we blow them.
Just imitating us? Donâ(TM)t think so - the diver thought he heard âoeGet Outâ. There was a documentary made about a house that said that to a nice family. It didnâ(TM)t end well.
Priorities! (Score:2)
until NOC hit sexual maturity.
"Screw learning a foreign language, I wanna meet girls!"
whimsical but relevant: (Score:2)
mariachi beluga
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS_6-IwMPjM [youtube.com]
Better than my NOC (Score:2)
All my NOC [wikipedia.org] knows how to do is open tickets, escalate them to engineering, wake me up in the middle of the night for false alerts, and generally annoy customers.
Plus this cetacean NOC works for fish! Where can I sign up to get him on board?
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All my NOC [wikipedia.org] knows how to do is open tickets, escalate them to engineering, wake me up in the middle of the night for false alerts, and generally annoy customers.
Plus this cetacean NOC works for fish! Where can I sign up to get him on board?
Plus this cetacean NOC works for scale! Where can I sign up to get him on board?
Whale speech (Score:2)
Sounds like (Score:1)
He was tying to say... (Score:2)
It's a shame the Beluga accent makes "out" sound like "eat" in English. And so the response to everything he did was to give him fish.
How is that news?! (Score:2)
Dolphins, whales.. where's teh difference.
Come back when you have real fish talking.
What's with the past tense? (Score:2)
Captive Beluga Was Able To Mimic Speech
That makes it sound like he's dead.
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