Austrian Skydiver Prepared to Leap From Edge of Space 97
Cutting_Crew writes "Austrian skydiver Felix Baumgartner will attempt a supersonic free fall on October 8th as the worlds highest skydive. According to the Christian Science Monitor 'The current record for world's highest skydive stands at 102,800 feet (31,333 m). It was set in 1960 by U.S. Air Force Captain Joe Kittinger, who serves as an adviser for Baumgartner's mission. If Baumgartner succeeds on Oct. 8, he will break not only that mark but also the sound barrier, becoming the first skydiver ever to fall at supersonic speeds, Red Bull Stratos officials said. During the July 25 jump, Baumgartner's top freefall speed was 537 mph (864 kph) — about as fast as a commercial airliner.' Let's hope that the weather on the 8th is as good as they hope for. It would be awesome to have a real time camera feed from his helmet."
My first thought was (Score:5, Funny)
That's one record that's sure to fall!
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My first thought was: "Edge of space? I hope he doesn't cut his feet!"
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My first thought was: "Edge of space? I hope he doesn't cut his feet!"
The edge of space, you say? I hope he doesn't fall the wrong way! Which could very well happen since the edge of space is invisible and all.
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One centimeter too high, and he would just float away...
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space has edges? oh, there's so much I don't know about astrophysics. why didn't I read that book by the wheelchair guy!
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given the option i'd do it, same as a one way trip to mars
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Except for the whole burning up in the atmosphere part. Orbital velocity can be a PITA.
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Except for the whole burning up in the atmosphere part. Orbital velocity can be a PITA.
You might recall that the skydiver is allowed to bring a parachute so they don't have to die during each jump they make. The orbital equivalent would be something man-portable, perhaps a combination of heat shield ("thermal protection system") and parachute (something to slow you down without killing you). It's a tough engineering problem not an inevitable trip to the afterlife.
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If you're given the option, do the base jump from ISS BEFORE the one way trip to mars.
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you'd have to jump REALLY hard (Score:5, Interesting)
It would be a cool way to commit suicide, I'll give you that.
The ISS is 230 miles up and you'd fall most of the way in vacuum, gaining 2.6kJ/kg of kinetic energy - meaning you'd be going around mach 7 when you hit the atmosphere With a good enough wing suit you *might* be able to spend enough time decelerating in the far upper atmosphere to avoid incinerating on reentry.
But to actually jump from the ISS you *start out* moving at 17,000mph(mach 22) - to reach the Earth you'd have to jump hard enough to neutralize enough of that velocity so that your new orbit intersected the atmosphere, but 200 miles is a fairly minor adjustment to a 4000-mile orbit, you might only need to shed a mach number or so, which you'd get back with interest as you fell. At that kind of speed you need to go to pretty extreme lengths to slow down - either a seriously large sturdy wing that can keep you in the far upper atmosphere shedding speed for a long time, or a serious heat shield. And I think either of those probably disqualify it from being considered a base jump.
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Read more carefully - the likely suicide part would be re-entry. This guy is NOT jumping from orbit - he's jumping from near-orbital altitude, which is a COMPLETELY different thing. Being at low-Earth orbit altitude you have a ton of potential energy that will be translated into speed (kinetic energy) as you fall to the surface. Actually being in orbit means you *start out* with roughly 10x as much kinetic energy as that potential energy - which translates to hypersonic speeds. Shedding that much energ
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I'm just wondering when someone's going to try a base jump from the ISS....
All that lateral velocity is bound to make the experience a real blast...
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I hope so.
My mama always said... (Score:1)
make a wish (Score:5, Funny)
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I see a bright future for this man.
I'm sure he'll be a shooting star.
Sonic Boom? (Score:2)
Re:Sonic Boom? (Score:5, Interesting)
The air will be so thin when he's at that speed that the shock-wave will be negligible if not non-existant.
Re:I don't care for the EXTREME one-ups-manship (Score:4, Funny)
0xDEADBEEF
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Kittinger is an actual hero. He should be celebrated up there with the pioneers of flight from the Wright brothers to the Astronauts in American history books, indeed world wide. He didn't just do it first. He did it first and he repeated multiple jumps. He suffered discomfort and injury. And he volunteered.
His service after those jumps was just as hero worthy, hell, his life after retiring from the military, with the first solo Atlantic crossing and other records places him in the books, yet again.
He's one
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In defense of the energy drink company... most of the stunts they sponsor were from people who were going to do the stunt anyhow. They are just providing some cash to get it going in return for sticking their logo on it.
not supersonic (Score:3)
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Actually the speed of sound only depends on temperature. The higher the temperature, the higher the speed of sound. he speed of sound DECREASES up to the tropopause (usually between 25000 and 35000 feet) after which it slowly increases in the stratosphere, but not quite up to sea level temperature.
So if you fly a speed in m/s that's faster than sound at sea level it will certainly be faster anywhere else below 50km.
Heh (Score:1)
Let's hope that the weather on the 8th is as good as they hope for...
I just hope that if he gets too hot during re-entry he can unzip his suit!
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... or open window
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Let's hope that the weather on the 8th is as good as they hope for...
I just hope that if he gets too hot during re-entry he can unzip his suit!
Maybe there will be precipitation and rain will not be the only thing to fall.
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Maybe there will be precipitation and rain will not be the only thing to fall.
You hoping for a golden rainshower? :p
When the hell... (Score:1)
Fat chance (Score:2)
They'll probably release 10 seconds of it and the rest you have to pay $$$ for the DVD. The fact that they're making a big thing out of it but giving away nothing I suspect means they'll find people giving them the finger when they actually try and sell any footage.
Austrian space program. (Score:2)
If this attempt is successful Austria will reveal the other part of their space program:
a vertical tunnel down the Grossglockner mountain with a bottle of propane at the bottom.
Re:Dubious source (Score:5, Insightful)
You went to the Christian Science Monitor to get the information on the current altitude record? You're going to get your statistics from the people who think dinosaurs and humans coexisted? Good luck with that.
I don't think you know what Christian Science is.
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I don't think you know what Christian Science is.
Sounds like an oxymoron to me.
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This may be flame bait, but i'm pretty sure Newton was one of the most fanatical (I'm pretty sure today he would be regarded as a Christian Fundie) scientists in the world. And yet, his advancements are extremely important to our modern understanding of the earth. Just because some people may have ulterior motives for pushing a particular theory doesn't mean all contributions they make to science are instantly invalidated.
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Newton didn't peddle his science as part of his religion. A rather important difference.
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Newton didn't peddle his science as part of his religion. A rather important difference.
Actually, quite the opposite it true. Much of his writings center around the notion that a monotheistic God is the masterful creator whose existence could not be denied in the face of the grandeur of all creation. --plagiarizer from the Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] on Newton's views of religion.
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Christian Science is like Grape Nuts. It ain't Science and they ain't nuts.
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Re:Dubious source (Score:5, Insightful)
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Perhaps he gave up religion for Lent?
CSM has a good reputation for scientific journalsm (Score:1)
I am obliged to say, as a devout atheist and sometime christian-bater, that CSM actually has pretty good science journalism. They're nothing to do with scientologists, if that's what you were thinking of
Obligatory Link to Kittinger Footage Music Video (Score:2, Interesting)
One of my favorite music videos, Boards of Canada - Dayvan Cowboy, starts out with footage from Kittinger's 1960 jump:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrBZeWjGjl8
It'd be awesome to have a real time camera feed (Score:2, Insightful)
Good luck with that, Red Bull haven't released any of the footage for the warm up jumps other than a few teasers, let alone streaming/televising a dangerous stunt (for want of a better word) live.
If anything went wrong their corporate image would take a big knock so I assume they'll wait until they know it's a success before announcing it and then they'll probably see how they can best 'monetize' the footage.
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I think bigger issues than breaking the record, are the capabilities of the human body
1) How will the human body cope with the insane pressure and temperature buildups at his head (assuming here he's going to go head first) 2) I'm assuming he'll have a regulated air supply of some kind, but how will this be affected by 1 3) etc
captcha: ascender
Actually the stresses would be roughly the same as the one back in the 60's. The real stress isn't in the upper stratosphere it's as the atmosphere thickens so going further out wouldn't add to the stresses. Terminal velocity still applies so he will max out before he hits maximum stress. Really the limiting factor is the Van Allen Belt. Odds are the suit he's using wouldn't be enough and he'd cook but it starts at a 1,000 kilometers so he won't even be close to it.
Austria! Well, then. G'day mate! (Score:1)
Let's put another shrimp on the barbie!
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Sure to make an impact! (Score:3)
Hopefully out of respect to his family the news channels will edit out the last minute.
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As long as they leave the sound on:
"And wow! Hey! What’s this thing suddenly coming towards me very fast? Very very fast. So big and flat and round, it needs a big wide sounding name like ow ound round ground! That’s it! That’s a good name – ground!
I wonder if it will be friends with me?"
And the rest, after a sudden wet thud, was silence.
Sad, IP even touched this story (Score:5, Insightful)
What's sad is at the end of the story:
God, we really built an entitlement society. People now think that a concept farts out of their brain, that it must be a) unique and b) theirs for all eternity. Now it seems the old adage of "Genius: one percent inspiration and 99 percent perspiration" should be changed to "Genius: one percent inspiration. Sue the suckers who put in the 99 percent perspiration."
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Remember that self inflating tyre thing? That's definitely an innovative idea. But the tricky thing? Building a tyre that self-inflates, and still is as safe, long-lasting, etc as a current tyre. You have to figure out how to self-inflate but still not pump too much water into the tyre in very wet weather. And test to make sure everything works fine even after thousands of miles of potholes and bumps. And test to see that when
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Or even simpler: "Genius: one percent inspiration and 99 percent ligitation"
Dooooo Iiiiiiittttt! (Score:1)
SNL Reference (Score:1)
In future news, Felix Baumgartner dead at age 43.
How is less than 1/3 to Kármán line the (Score:1)
The edge is 100km.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A1rm%C3%A1n_line [wikipedia.org]
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Nah, it's 88.3 Mz! [wqna.org]
Eaten by secret Nazi space sharks over Austria (Score:2)
Nobody told Baumgartner about the Secret Nazi Space Shark lab still in low orbit over Germany near the Austrian border.
Wait a minute! (Score:2)
If he jumps out over Australia, won't he be going the wrong way?
Next Time, Do It In A Wingsuit! (Score:2)
Well probably not. I reckon you'd probably lose a lot of altitude before you could get any air under your wings. You'd have a fuck-ton of air speed to play with once you did, though! Maybe you could make the jump across the Bering Strait or the English Channel. I think it'd suck to try to work a wingsuit around a bulky-ass spacesuit, but it would be a pretty cool jump! And I won't sue you if you steal my idea!
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Ob (Score:2)
... and if he fails, he'll break every bone in his body.
it's true then.... (Score:1)