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Europe Gets Pay-As-You-Go Satellite Broadband 58

judgecorp writes "Europe is set to get pay-as-you-go high speed satellite broadband from Avanti's Ka-band HYLAS1 satellite in the 26.5 — 40GHz range. Avanti says satellite broadband services have improved massively including a far better uplink than used to be available, though the round-trip latency can't be improved much." Conspicuously missing: the actual price.
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Europe Gets Pay-As-You-Go Satellite Broadband

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    It will be ubiqitous by 2009.

    Posted from my Iridium Satellite Connection.

  • by Tastecicles ( 1153671 ) on Sunday July 22, 2012 @04:59AM (#40728613)

    for Navy buckets operating out of normal, unrestricted hardline/line-of-sight microwave/wifi ranges.

    NATO have already approved Avanti satellite uplinks for operational use [].

  • Buying in bulk is usually cheaper than getting nickel-and-dimed to death with most stuff. Look at your supermarket per unit prices for King Size, Family Size and Holy Roman Empire Size packages. I'd rather see the service offered with daily, weekly, monthly flat rates instead of the old telephone pay-per-call system.

    But I guess telephone companies like that system, because they ended up charging more for service than for flat rates.

    • by aurizon ( 122550 )

      Why not have a cable meter, 25 cents per hour per channel. A family watching 4 hours/night = $1 per day, 8 hours = $2 etc etc.
      Modern metering can easily do this

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Only $50/GB. Plus 4 pints of blood from your firstborn.

  • LEO or GEO (Score:2, Interesting)

    by rossdee ( 243626 )

    Where are the satellites, LEO or GEO ?

    I'm guessing GEO so ping times sux

    (Oh I spose I should clarify - LEO = Low Earth orbit - no more that a couple of hundred miles up. GEO = Geostationary - up at 25000 miles so it stays in the sameplace relative to the ground.)

    • they're comsats with personal or base uplinks, so they'll be GEO. Right now, from what I've read, they're only offering contracts to military contractors and service providers. The PAYG service won't be going live until after the orbital testing on their second bird is complete at the end of August.

    • They should use FTL neutrinos to improve ping time.
  • by Gordonjcp ( 186804 ) on Sunday July 22, 2012 @05:32AM (#40728689) Homepage

    ... that there are companies in the UK and EU who have been doing satellite broadband for over a decade now, with both flat-rate and pay-as-you-go billing.

    This is *one* company that has started to provide it, nothing particularly new here.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    B2C is handled by various European ISPs reselling the service at different prices. For example, Broadband-Portugal [] sells 1GB tokens, which are valid 30 days, for 15 EUR. Primesatellitebroadband [] offers subscription plans where add-on gigabytes cost £7.20 (about 9 EUR). There are other satellite operators which offer broadband internet access over a bidirectional satellite link.

  • You can't afford it.

  • Yes 3G 4G "broadband" is in a lot of places, but I wish I could get heughes net for just one month or even 1 week when I need it at a event. This weekend I had Verizon and their "superior" network.... that did not work... ZERO bandwidth with a crowd of only 125,000 Verizon utterly sucks. I had to switch to the wife's AT&T iphone and illigimately tether, and then hit the freaking data cap and slowdown to 28.8 dialup you get to enjoy.

    A nice dish pointing at the sky would have solved that.

  • Mobile use, particularly at sea tends to involve omnidirectional antennas. Directional, gyro corrected antennas are very expensive and large.

    Can this service tally with a handheld sat phone for lower speeds? I would hazard a guess of a yes but I've never found any info on this...

    • by Cyberax ( 705495 )
      It's not really antennae - they're fairly affordable now. It's the Doppler shift - normal terrestrial terminals (working with GEO satellites) can't cope with more than about 10m/s speed differential. So you simply physically can't use these services at sea.

      Yeah, there are maritime satellite services but they are nicely segregated into "it's cheaper to buy your own airplane than to use satphone" category.
  • The latency... (Score:4, Informative)

    by __Paul__ ( 1570 ) on Sunday July 22, 2012 @08:11AM (#40729103) Homepage

    ...makes these services next to useless, especially now that the web isn't just a bunch of static pages anymore. I was using satellite broadband a few years ago, in rural Australia - it was barely better than the dialup line it replaced. We only took it up because the line quality on the dialup degraded to such a state that it couldn't stay online for longer than twenty minutes, and Telstra were incapable of fixing it.

    Only low-orbit satellites are going to be able to make satellite-broadband useful.

  • Round-trip latency can definitely be improved. It just means using LEO satellites instead of GEO.
    • by Bengie ( 1121981 )
      Don't forget to add a motor to the dish to allow it to track the satellite across the sky. You'll also need a second dish so it can start tracking the next satellite, otherwise you will lose connection for a bit as the other satellite leave line-of-site.

      They will also have to add this same ability to the satellite so it can track base stations.

      Sounds a bit messy.
    • Round-trip latency can definitely be improved. It just means using LEO satellites instead of GEO.

      Or just use thousands of UAVs.

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