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Politically Correct Zoology 218

flynny51 writes "Dr. Dylan Evans of the School of Medicine, University College, Cork, Ireland, has had a two-year period of intensive monitoring and counseling imposed upon him and as a result his application for tenure is likely to be denied. His offense — sharing an article from a peer-reviewed journal on fellatio in fruit bats."


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Politically Correct Zoology

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  • Details (Score:5, Informative)

    by HungryHobo ( 1314109 ) on Sunday May 16, 2010 @07:05PM (#32231004)

    For copies of the letters sent back and forth along with far more details: [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []

    best guess but going mostly from rumor and reading between the lines: the woman who lodged the complaint is quite likely the wife of one of the VP's in UCC.

    • On reading the accusation and Evan's reply, if neither party is misrepresenting what happened or their view of it, Evan's has clearly acted inapproperiately but might not have realized this. Most of "her" complaints that do not concern the physical "hugging" and so forth are clearly unjudgeable without perceiving the tone of the situation. A case of Aspergers, perhaps?
      • from the report-Apparently he provided evidence such as emails etc to the external investigators which didn't match very well with her account so they cleared him on everything except showing the fruit-bat article.

        • Re:Details (Score:4, Insightful)

          by Securityemo ( 1407943 ) on Sunday May 16, 2010 @07:38PM (#32231236) Journal
          Silly. If a person lies in such amounts about something like this, the "case" should just be dropped. If he has evidence, he should sue her for slander, or whatever the equivalent legal process is in Ireland.
          • Re:Details (Score:5, Funny)

            by sznupi ( 719324 ) on Sunday May 16, 2010 @07:45PM (#32231302) Homepage

            ...slander, or whatever the equivalent legal process is in Ireland


            • Only equivalent if you have a serious ego...
              • You could perhaps pull it off long enough for the courts to consider it, if you where a really, really dedicated follower of some of the denominations of satanism.
                • by sznupi ( 719324 )

                  Not really, those laws are a legal fiction anyway (using literary term here, not judgical one); otherwise pretty much most religious group would have to be immediatelly prosecuted against...most of the other.
                  Such laws serve mostly the dominant faith. Or generally are brought over only when it's convenient.

          • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

            by lucm ( 889690 )

            > Silly. If a person lies in such amounts about something like this, the "case" should just be dropped.

            It really depends on *who* that person is (or who she is married to).

            From the paragraph 15 in the IFUT letter:

            "On the one hand she seems to be complaining that Dr Evans was manipulating her to establish himself in a good light with her husband. Yet on the other hand she accuses Dr Evans of sexual harassment. Such a combination is surely unlikely to say the least. The complainant's repeated references to

    • Last paragraph, first sentence:
      "... I believe that it is appropriate that your behavior in this regard should be monitored and appraised over a two-year period, commencing on 1 April 2010."

      Maybe this is all an epic joke?

  • Fuck Puritans. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by SanityInAnarchy ( 655584 ) <> on Sunday May 16, 2010 @07:09PM (#32231030) Journal

    Seriously, grow up. As the paper in question demonstrates, the animal kingdom clearly has at least as many kinks as us humans do. It's not "sinful." Far from it -- if you believe in a deity, it seems obvious that this deity heartily approves of sex in all kinds of variety.

    Or, if you can't deal with that, fine, believe whatever you want -- but stop retarding scientific and social progress with your puritanical ideals.

  • Standard. (Score:5, Funny)

    by SharpFang ( 651121 ) on Sunday May 16, 2010 @07:12PM (#32231042) Homepage Journal

    If nature facts don't agree with your moral beliefs... the worse for the facts.

    Next Vatican will be sending missionaries to teach the bats about properly moral sexual practices.

  • Science is science; what little simple-minded cretin made this decision? Someone should dig up the name and contact details, so we can mock him/her properly.
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      Science is science; what little simple-minded cretin made this decision? Someone should dig up the name and contact details, so we can mock him/her properly.


    • So if I were aggressively courting a woman in a psychology or sociology department against her wishes and randomly gave her the complete research works of Dr. Kinsey [], that would be kosher?
  • by Flambergius ( 55153 ) * on Sunday May 16, 2010 @07:42PM (#32231264)

    I read the complaint, replies and rest of the documents. Made me miss the first period of Montreal @ Philadelphia.

    The lack of evidence is staggering and mind-boggling. Who knows what really has been going on, but what I do know that the investigators or the president don't know anything that would be warrant a two-year monitoring and counseling period.

    Let me repeat: not guilty.

  • He showed someone a scientifically researched and published article, the content is irrelevant.
    Sure sex is a touchy area, but this is a doctor, talking to others in his field.

  • But my paper topic was, "Fruity bats: population clusters in San Francisco and Provincetown, Mass.?" Academic freedom my ass...

  • Remember the law passed not long ago making blasphemy illegal?

    So, how long until people realizes that this has gone too far. Censorship IS a problem. religion and corporate interests account for most of the censorship out there. Copyright is nothing but a form of censorship.

    Can we finally outlaw religion and copyright? We really need to ban and persecute all forms of religious beliefs. And we really need to get rid of copyright.

    Only then we'll be truly free.

    Now, go ahead and mod me troll or flamebait, but y

  • by yyxx ( 1812612 ) on Sunday May 16, 2010 @09:33PM (#32231990)

    Is it politically correct to be for oral sex in fruit bats or against it? Could someone please explain?

  • Summary failure (Score:4, Interesting)

    by argStyopa ( 232550 ) on Monday May 17, 2010 @09:05AM (#32235964) Journal

    To me it sounds like the good Dr. has done an admirable job of 'spin control'.

    Read her allegations. They are just that, allegations, but dispense with Dr. Evans interpretation of events, and read it for what it is.

    Dr. Evans engaged in what most of us would recognize as relatively sophomoric antics and flirtation - repeatedly engaging the complainant in discussions of a sexual nature, about Casanova, and ultimately showing her (I assume with much Junior-high-school snickering) an article on fellatio in Fruit Bats.

    It IS possible that all of this was just an unfortunate set of coincidences, showing nothing more than an autistic-level of disconnectedness by Dr. Evans in not understanding the context of the repeated discussions.

    Considerably more likely is the Dr. Evans had a serious boner for the alleged victim, and engaged in the sorts of feeble things 7th grade boys would do to try to 'spark' some interest in 'that hot girl' - with arguably similar results...she is shocked, disgusted, and goes running to the teacher crying "GROSS!".

    If the subsequent dinner "double date" was accurately represented in the reportage, as well as a YEAR of such antics, she (and the school administration) are entirely vindicated.

    I congratulate Dr. Evans on his ability to form a groundswell of public opinion in his behalf by mischaracterizing the event as some sort of Puritanical effort to "stifle academic freedom", a message which rings so readily in the ears of the political leanings of so many here on slashdot that its readily believed contrary to the actual reports. I'm sure he can look forward to many job offers from political parties looking for media consultants.

    I'd however recommend to both of them that they perhaps make sure Dr. Evans isn't working with any women.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by HungryHobo ( 1314109 )

      That sounds all very convincing except for the fact that when the external board looked into it Dr Evans was able to produce actual evidence such as emails which contradicted her account of what happened solidly enough that they threw out everything except the fruitbat paper.

      also your interpretation doesn't make much sense as was pointed out in the final letter:

      "On the one hand she seems to be complaining that Dr Evans was "manipulating"
      her to establish himself in a good light with her husband. Yet on the o

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