Astronauts Begin Final Spacewalk To Repair Hubble 94
An anonymous reader writes "Astronauts John Grunsfield and Andrew Feustel began the fifth and final spacewalk of their Hubble Space Telescope repair mission this morning at 8:20AM. During their spacewalk the two will install the second battery group replacement in an equipment bay above the Wide Field Camera 2 and next to the compartment where the first battery set was installed on the second spacewalk. Each of the battery module weighs 460 pounds and contains three batteries. The batteries provide electrical power to support Hubble's operations during the night when there's no sun to power the solar arrays."
Watch it live (Score:5, Informative)
Not above the WFC2 (Score:5, Informative)
First tweets from space (Score:5, Informative)
http://twitter.com/Astro_Mike [twitter.com]
one of the astronauts is live blogging on twitter from the shuttle
Re:The batteries weigh what? (Score:5, Informative)
F=GMmr^-2
=G * Mass of earth * mass of box * (Earth's radius + Hubble orbit height)^-2
=(6.67x10^-11 * 5.9742x10^24 * 208.7) * ((6378 + 559)x10^3)^-2
=1729.20 N
Re:The batteries weigh what? (Score:3, Informative)
Um, it's the pound [wikipedia.org]. Doesn't everyone know that? 2.2 lbs to the kilo.
While weight certainly means the force created between two masses due to gravity, it is almost always used interchangeably with mass in practice.
-Peter
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Re:The batteries weigh what? (Score:5, Informative)
Pound-mass or slug, your choice.
Re:The batteries weigh what? (Score:5, Informative)
Um, it's the pound. Doesn't everyone know that? 2.2 lbs to the kilo.
While weight certainly means the force created between two masses due to gravity, it is almost always used interchangeably with mass in practice.
Still messed up. Trying to compare a metric unit of mass to a imperial unit of weight using a conversion factor that only works at roughly sea level on earth.
Metric unit of weight - Newton N
Metric unit of mass - Gram g
Imperial unit of weight - Pound lb (you know, like Pound Sterling being a pound of silver?)
Imperial unit of mass - Slugs
Re:The batteries weigh what? (Score:2, Informative)
Did you click the link? No one uses slugs. Pounds are commonly used to express mass as well as force (weight).
Since there is a mass version of the pound, and it is defined in terms of kilos the conversions actually work perfectly in any (or no) gravitational field. (Though the conversion factor is exactly 2.20462262, not 2.2.)
Seriously, click the link.
Don't get me wrong in all of this. I advocate the metric system. But I don't understand the seemingly willful misunderstanding of the modern imperial system.
-Peter
Re:Proof... (Score:5, Informative)
Technically the batteries have the same mass while on Earth as they do while orbiting it. The weight in orbit is zero. (which is the point the above are making)
See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_versus_weight [wikipedia.org]
Re:Proof... (Score:1, Informative)
Are you "weightless" while skydiving?
Only briefly. Once you hit terminal velocity, there is no longer any sensation of falling (no acceleration). For the vast majority of your dive, you "weigh" the same as you do on the ground. Instead of being held up by the floor or a piece of furniture, you are held up by a (relative to you) fast-moving updraft.
Re:Proof... (Score:3, Informative)
Okay, but you're talking about the lack of the sensation of weight [wikipedia.org].
I wasn't confusing mass with weight, but you still need to exert force to support an object in a gravitational field, and the measure of that force is its weight. The fact that we're in free fall and the object is weightless relative to us doesn't change that.
(IANAAP, so correct me if I'm wrong).
Re:I love NASA TV (Score:4, Informative)
mms://209.73.189.79/bcpenc252181?StreamID=81684353&pl_auth=56e0ca2df8a3b81fa447c77c49dbf0f1&ht=120&pl_b=00CEBE2C2D18A488577820B4444A1179CB&CG_ID=1369080&Segment=149773
Re:The batteries weigh what? (Score:2, Informative)
There's no question that it's a kludge.
There's no "may" about it. For the Math to work they can only be equal at exactly 1G. The thing is, we never really use the "weight pound" in practice. I mean, if someone asks you what you weigh do you ask for a reference altitude (or gravitational force)? Absurd.
Put it this weigh (yuk-yuk), if you want to buy a pound of bananas, are you looking for half a kilo of bananas? Or four and a half newtons of bananas?
Always glad to rise above the hoi polloi ;-)
-Peter