Scientists Make Artificial Protein Mimic Blood 94
Al writes "Researchers at the University of Pennsylvania have created a protein that can carry and deliver oxygen — a useful step towards developing artificial blood. This would avoid the problems involved with donor blood — contamination, limited storage, and short supply — and lead to easier and faster blood transfusions on the battlefield and in trauma cases. The Penn researchers used three amino acids to make a four-helix columned protein structure put a smaller structure, called a heme, inside it. The heme is a large flat molecule that has an iron atom at its center, which oxygen binds to. The researchers also made the protein structure flexible, so that it can open to receive the oxygen and close again without letting any water in. They did this by linking together the helical columns with loops to restrict their motions, giving the final structure a candelabra shape."
Finally (Score:3, Funny)
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Incidentally this [wikipedia.org] is fun viewing in that vein.
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Blood is mostly rusty salt water anyway
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Not another bloody mime!
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Well, maybe. Some of my Ventrue friends say it has a horrible metallic taste and is undrinkable.
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Enriching!
Now, what will this mean for athletes, military, other types who get injured and get infused with "proxygen" (blood and java & coded Java) and get told to continue the fight?
Yet another step to cyborg technology. (Score:2, Funny)
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The hell with that. I'm just thinking I'm one step closer to building my very own Number Eight.
Various Questions (Score:5, Insightful)
This sounds extremely cool, and very useful.
Some questions I would have is:
1. How much of this 'blood' can a human take before his/her body rejects it (if it ever does)?
2. How quick and expensive is it to create, say, a liter of blood?
3. Is there any reason that this blood wouldn't be able to combine with certain blood-types?
Either way, this is some great research that UPenn is doing. I'm excited to see where this goes.
Re:Various Questions (Score:5, Insightful)
4. Does this break down into any sort of toxin?
5. Can kidneys, livers and pancreases deal with this?
6. How do common diseases or viruses interact with it.
Personally, I think those would rank #1, 2 and 3... but to each their own.
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For a blood transfusion, the platelets (for clotting) white blood cells (fighting infections) and plasma (also for clotting) are separated from the red blood cells. Only the red blood cells carry hemoglobin [wikipedia.org], which carries Fe2+ iron ions.
Just by creating a synthetic red blood cell would eliminate the need for many blood transfusions.
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Most proposed blood substitutes are just the gas transport part in a carrier liquid that is intended to do little or nothing and cause no trouble.
Adding in clotting factors and such would make the product vastly more difficult and far more likely to have a fatal (literally) flaw.
Various use scenarios include at the front line in battle, in an ambulance, and at the scene of a disaster. In all of those cases the hopefully more stable patent then goes to a proper hospital and gets real blood. If only 1 unit is
Re:Various Questions (Score:4, Interesting)
More to the point, does it induce cardiac infarction, like PolyHeme? (And is the FDA going to foist it on the unconscious without consent, as they did PolyHeme?)
-Peter
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if they qualify under  50.24 Exception from informed consent requirements for emergency research, The probably. You have read this, right?
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div8&view=text&node=21:1.0.1.1.19.2.31.3&idno=21 [gpoaccess.gov]
Re:Various Questions (Score:5, Funny)
That's an awesome way to say 'yes'. I think I'm going to use it from now on.
Wife: Did you take the trash out yet?
Me: The probably.
Daughter: Daddy can I have a cookie?
Me: The probably.
Wife: Do you want to have another baby?
Me: The probably.
At the very least, it will buy me some time while they are confused, which will allow me to either think of a better answer, or escape to another location.
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Wow. That's one gnarly post. You know Slashdot has a preview function, right?
Anyway, I don't understand what point you're trying to make. I understand that the FDA authorized Northfield to conduct their research. That's why I said "FDA" in my post.
Are you suggesting that this makes it okay? Or are you simply offering a historical example to suggest that the same outcome is likely?
-Peter
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Wow. That's one gnarly post. You know Slashdot has a preview function, right?
The probably, it's hard to miss. ;)
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All you -oids always stick together!
I didn't want to point out that it's just to the left of the submit button . . . on a page written in a left-to-right language.
-Peter
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5. Can kidneys, livers and pancreases deal with this?
You meant to say "spleens" not "pancreases" right? I'm just guessing that you meant to name all three organs that effectively filter blood, and not just two of them and one other random digestive/insulin production organ that happens to be located nearby.
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That too, the list was about 3 more organs long, but then I noticed that it fucked with the flow of the visual appearance of the list, so I randomly deleted some.
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Can we mod the parent +1, Sad-but-true? These days, I wouldn't be surprised to see a pharmaceutical ad that says, "Side effects are mild and may include internal bleeding, kidney or liver damage, erectile dysfunction, and brain aneurysms...." Half the drugs out there seem to cause some sort of kidney or liver issues in some people---acetaminophen (e.g. Tylenol), NSAIDs (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, a common type of pain reliever), bisphosphonates (osteoporosis treatment), gadolinium (used in CT
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I like the idea of being able to take my liver in for a tuneup instead of just having to stop drinking for a week every now and then.
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Designer colors? (Score:1)
Maybe a nice neon pink?
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Radium. I want mine to glow in the dark.
But you bring up an interesting point: does artificial blood have types? Rh factor?
I am not knowledgeable in this area of science, but if these researchers have created something that can cart oxygen around in the bloodstream . . . they'd better start practicing their Swedish for their Nobel prize.
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Can I start drawing up business plans for my designer blood company? Green, maybe blue? What ever color you want it's up to you!
Maybe a nice neon pink?
You'd have a whole bunch of Klingon Language Camp types waiting in line for that one...
Technocracy (Score:2)
This is clearly still unreal technology/Technocracy magic.
Some Vampire/Mage crossover munchkin is trying to change the consensual reality so the paradox stops popping his head open whenever he tries to conjure blood.
Obviously.
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Make ER work simpler (Score:5, Informative)
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Sign me up (Score:2)
Along similar lines, I wonder how hard it would be to keep a brain (just the brain) alive on life support. Hook it up to an external interface (not simple, I know) then live virtually forever.
Was an article about blood substitutes in popsci (Score:3, Informative)
I remembered reading about this topic in popular science. Here is the article:
http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2006-11/better-blood [popsci.com]
Battlefield "first response" was a major topic, as getting oxygen to the brain during the first hours was one of the keys to survival.
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Maybe the whole system just kind of evolved instead of being intelligently designed
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But isn't a bigger issue the LOSS of blood at the scene of an accident rather than blood type rejection?
Or maybe ambulances could carry this as a "generic" substitute.
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So you are proposing that accident victims should simply choose to lose less blood?
I don't think that other phases of emergency care are going to take a successful blood replacement as a license to do less (unless it actually made sense to do so!).
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Or maybe ambulances could carry this as a "generic" substitute.
Or your car? How about one where you pour in distilled water and get blood out the other end?
Re:Make ER work simpler (Score:5, Informative)
First transfusions cause immune reactions [that are technically not rejection] but while these may be major events, they are NOT very frequent. Nurses stop transfusions at the slightest reaction. In the past six years I have seen one transfusion reaction and I work at a major urban trauma center.
Secondly, blood that is transfused is usually near the end of its shelf life and as such you are lucky if 50% of the cells are viable. Within 48 hrs, most (75-80%) of the blood is useless.
Thirdly, blood itself causes immunesuppresion. Couple this with the SIRS/sepsis response in the body and you are going to have a hard time managing this pt in the long term (this is why patients die weeks to months after surviving the initial trauma (tri-modal mortality - on-scene, early in the ED, and late).
Fourth, is the ethical issues - not everyone accepts blood - Jehovah's Witnesses classically. (We also happen to be the city's "bloodless surgery" center - but that's a whole other rant).
The problem with blood replacement is that they also fail in one of these areas. Some substances will cause immune reactions or toxic effects to the body. Hemoglobin and myoglobin (the analogue in the muslces) and their breakdown products are *toxic* to the body...fortunately we have mechanisms to eliminate them safely (most of the time). But what of this protein? Are the breakdown products safe? Does it need to be wrapped in a cell wall to protect the body from it? The article mentions the immune system attacking the molecule, but will the molecule function in physiologic conditions that allow it accept oxygen and release it appropriately? Will it cause other portions of the body to fail? Is the compound stable? How will the body eliminate it?
As for not needing a substance that transports oxygen efficiently, try again. The human body can only tolerate so much volume. If this substance is only 5% as efficient I need 20x the volume. Not very helpful - I'll stick with blood thank you. And, yes you can survive being bled out to 33 to 50% of your blood volume if you are healthy....but if you are also a trauma patient with injuries, you can tolerate much less blood loss - see above for late trauma mortality. As for the soldiers bleeding out pink koolaid...your medics need to be retrained. The current accepted protocols are not to "flood" the traumas with non-oxygen carrying fluids (crystalloids) but to try to maintain perfusion until surgical control of bleeding can be established.
And finally, one of the largest hurdles to artificial blood is the ethical concerns. Healthy volunteers may tolerate the substance, but actual "sick" people may not....In 1999 UPenn killed a young relatively healthy volunteer Jesse Gelsinger with their attempt at correcting his ornithine carbamoyltransferase deficiency with their "gene therapy". It wasn't necessarily that the treatment was bad, but due to his illness, he reacted badly to the adenovirus used as a vector. And in the early 1990's Shock Trauma in Baltimore took a huge publicity hit for proposing to use blood substitutes in acutal trauma patients...the problem was that in a trauma patient you cant' get accurate informed consent to an experimental treatment. This ended up becoming a racial issue as the young male African-American population was the largest demographic group "visiting" their facility. Major uproar.
Now, I for one would love to see a stable, safe, useful blood substitue, they are still a long way off from offering a product I can use on my patients.
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Sorry, but I think you missed some of my points. Negative side-effects such as the exposed Fe+2 reducing nictric oxide in a patient are NOT acceptable. We are talking about people who are on the "knifes edge" and the "cure" can't make these people worse!
Also, please read their website. It is NOT artificial blood. It is not recombinant but rather purified bovine hemoglobin.
Directly from their website:
Manufacturing Process
Manufacture of Hemopure and Oxyglobin occurs in four major steps: First, bovine bloo
Interesting and cool... however (Score:5, Interesting)
Missing the point ... (Score:4, Informative)
If this protein could eventually find application as an artificial hemoglobin, that's great, but the point of the work isn't to announce the creation of same, but to highlight the fact that there are many potential solutions to any given biological problem, and that complexity of form is not an inherent requirement for life-sustaining chemistry.
So, let's answer some "various questions" from above: 1) This has never been put inside a living creature, and it would likely be toxic in its current form. It would probably require significant re-design (changes in surface properties) to become immuno-silent.
2) While it looks like this is a relatively cheap protein to produce (it's expressed in E. coli per the Nature paper, with nothing exotic added to the media), producing and purifying protein is generally an expensive game. That's one reason why peptide-based cancer treatments are exorbitantly expensive.
3) Assuming an immuno-silent variant, blood type would be irrelevant.
4) The components of pretty much any protein are non-toxic, but it's impossible to know a priori if some fragments of such a protein would aggravate the immune system. Probably not, though, provided (again) an immuno-silent design.
5), 6), etc.
Even without a ready-to-use artificial hemoglobin, this work is significant because it implies that evolving biological function is a very simple process, and the solutions nature has found to the problems of biology are not the only possible solutions.
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They fail to give any meaningful data on its oxygen dissociation curve against pH, so we have no idea how it will perform as an oxygen transporter at physiological conditions.
Why you gotta be all chemical about it?
In seriousness, the Dutton lab webpage [upenn.edu], the ones who did it, has a crystal structure image that looks like it does have the histidines in place above and below the heme ring to stabilize the O2, although it's been a while since I had a biochem course. So those could actually be anything and I wouldn't know. Matter of fact, that could be the wrong lab for all I know.
Anyway, it seems the focus of the lab is non-clinical (predictably.) They may not have mentioned any
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http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v458/n7236/pdf/nature07841.pdf [nature.com]
If you have access to nature.
From glancing at the article, this is not a replacement for blood yet, but they are moving in the right direction.
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*The* ultimate energy drink! (Score:2)
Can this artificial blood be absorbed through the stomach/intestines into the blood stream? If so these guys will be gazillionares! Forget corn sugar and caffeine, "Drink Bl00d(tm)! Hyper-oxygenated, overly vitamin giga-vitamin-fortified Bl00d(tm)!
"Ready for a tequila shot, dude?"
"No, let's do some blood first."
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And we'd finally have cheap real bloody mary.
Artificial hemoglobin? (Score:3, Informative)
Hemoglobin carries oxygen just fine. Why can't they use it?
Is it too hard to manufacture, too expensive, or ill-suited in some other way for use in an artificial blood?
TFA didn't answer that question.
Re:Artificial hemoglobin? (Score:5, Interesting)
Remember, hemoglobin is just one part of the red blood cell - that's the 'thing' that delivers blood to tissues. If you just dump straight hemoglobin in the system, it gets chewed up quickly (like most random proteins) and clobbers the kidneys. (see the interesting wikipedia [wikipedia.org] article for some background. Researchers have tried various 'synthetic' hemoglobins to do just that and so far, they haven't worked well.
Interestingly, there is a bovine hemoglobin / albumin conjugate that is approved for dogs. So it's possible that some combination of an oxygen carrying protein sans full red blood cell will work, but we haven't got there yet.
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Thanks, that's quite informative. I was feeling particularly brave and actually clicked through and read TFA to try and find the answer to that question, and must say I was irritated when it wasn't explained at all. Of course I was too lazy to look it up... ;)
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Actually they are using bovine hemoglobin glutamer for humans in in South Africa for surgical patients http://www.biopure.com/hemopure.php [biopure.com]
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further obstacles (Score:1, Insightful)
A great milestone, but a paragraph near then end of the article outlines the obstacles still to be crossed:
To use the artificial protein in the human body, the researchers will need to make sure that it can hold on to the oxygen long enough to be useful, work in a cellular environment, and be nontoxic. The protein also must not be identified by the immune system as a contaminant to be flushed out through the kidneys, adds James Collman, a professor of chemistry at Stanford University, who makes synthetic hemes that bind to oxygen.
I would modify one sentence though: "hold on to the oxygen long enough to be useful and no longer"
What makes carbon monoxide so dangerous is that hemoglobin has more affinity for it than for oxygen. Once CO binds with it it is basically out of commission until the blood cell is reclaimed by the body. If this protein-heme compound has a higher affinity for O2 than hemoglobin, it could "suck" the O2 ou
That thing gota heme? (Score:1, Funny)
That thing gota heme?
Hopefully, this works (Score:1)
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Artificial? Not sure that is the right word. Remember, we are all mortal (except those lucky enough to get bid by radioactive insects or suffer some equally odd and unlikely fate that comic book writers seem to know all about - oh and vampires...) So anyway, you're going to die of something. We've been slowly pruning the low hanging fruit of early mortality: Bad water, infectious disease, trauma, some heart disease. So that
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Such as...
Can spread other diseases. Yes, and so?
"both types of herpes has a strong associations with long-term dementia."
Link?
Your coming off as a little.. lets be kind and say 'odd'.
Could you please be a little more clear as to the point you are speaking to, and the evidence it is based on?
Are you just bringing up that sometimes diseases can be spread through transfusion?
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???? You kidding??? As a one-time MicroBiologists from ages ago (worked at CDC on arthropod-borne disease back in 1980-81; grant ended), I can tell you that science routinely discovers new viruses. Exchanging blood DOES create a risk, just one that is considered acceptable (vs. immediate death).
"both types of herpes has a strong associations with long-term dementia." Link?
Are you serious? In this day of Google, you really could not even type in TWO FUCKING WORDS? [google.com]
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I wonder (Score:1)
When will the "I last longer on synthetic" debate begin...
Fake blood is perfect (Score:2)
I think some fake blood is exactly what all these fake vampires need. Cranberry juice and V8 gets old after a while.
Greater implications (Score:2)
In "The Singularity Is Near", Ray Kurzweil explores some of the implications of artificial oxygen carrying fluid. Assume that it actually works as advertised:
...and on and on, in much more detail (and far more convincingl
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Maybe there is a purpose to their large size. Microscope animations of blood traveling through capillaries showed that the red blood cells were just small enough to travel through a single capillary in single file.
Perhaps they need to be this size in order for blood pressure to keep them moving, otherwise if they were considerably smaller than a capillary, then the water in the blood stream would just stream past them.
Syndication in all forms, including RSS (Score:1, Offtopic)
Professional Sports Doping? (Score:1)
The same hype was used for Hemopure [wikipedia.org] when it first came out, except it had the nasty side effect of kidney failure, or so far as I can tell. Anyone else know definitively why the FDA won't test Hemopure? If this makes it out of the lab, I wonder how long it will be in the wild before they develop a test for it in endurance sports. Personally, I don't think it will. Blood drugs like Hemopure and Erythropoietin have a nasty side effect of dea [guardian.co.uk]
Cutting Edge Technology (Score:2)
I hadn't meant for this to become a Primer on the state of blood and artificial blood products, but considering the importance of the topic... blood is in fact life, and is therefore an issue worth going over thoroughly. The whole synthetic blood discussion is both fascinating and critically important. There simply isn't enough blood available for saving people's lives during disasters and large scale emergencies. That, and blood has a short shelf life so you simply can't build up stocks for the future. Las