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Banjo Used In Brain Surgery 164

Ponca City, We love you writes "Legendary bluegrass musician Eddie Adcock has undergone brain surgery to treat a hand tremor, playing his banjo throughout to test the success of the procedure. Adcock suffers from essential tremor, a condition where there is a continuing deterioration in areas of the brain that control movement, causing a tremor that usually appears when the person tries to act or move. Deep brain stimulation can be used to treat the movement difficulties of both Parkinson's and essential tremor by sinking an electrode into the thalamus, a deep brain area that is part of the motor loop — a circuit that helps coordinate movement. Surgeons placed electrodes in Adcock's brain and fitted a pacemaker in his chest, which delivers a small current that shuts down the region of his brain causing the tremors. The most sensible thing to do was to tweak the system while Adcock was playing the banjo to optimize the effect for the thing that's most important to him."
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Banjo Used In Brain Surgery

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  • by Zymergy ( 803632 ) * on Tuesday October 14, 2008 @03:59PM (#25374399)
    ...for this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyKvD-4IxOY [youtube.com]
    (Now imagine the brain surgeon trying to work with that going on...)
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      • Before I went to all that trouble,

        I'd rather just go shopping for a coffin, get my affairs in order, and accept the inevitable. You can't live forever; now is as good a day to die as any.

    • by ShakaUVM ( 157947 ) on Tuesday October 14, 2008 @04:12PM (#25374585) Homepage Journal

      Q: What's the difference between a banjo and a trampoline?
      A: People take off their shoes before jumping on a trampoline.

      Q: Ever hear someone say, "Hey, there's that mansion where that famous banjo player lives?"
      A: No, and you never will

      • Re:Oblig Banjo Jokes (Score:4, Informative)

        by UncleTogie ( 1004853 ) * on Tuesday October 14, 2008 @04:27PM (#25374799) Homepage Journal

        Q: Ever hear someone say, "Hey, there's that mansion where that famous banjo player lives?"
        A: No, and you never will

        What, never hear of Hee Haw? This guy [royclark.org] was pickin' and grinnin' all the way to the bank... in one of the airplanes he owns...

        • Yep, there's a lot of poor unenlightened folk who'll never know they joy listening to a banjo player because their blind bias stops 'em from even trying.

          Fine with me, keeps the crowds down and the company pleasant.

          • Both my aunt and dad play the banjo, and I learned to play it back in the day for a high school project.

            Sheesh, have a sense of humor.

      • Ha ha, take that, stupid banjo players. Now BAGPIPES, that's where it's at!

        For some reason though, everyone who has attempted to play bagpipes while undergoing this type of procedure has died due to mysterious brain injuries.

        • by rubycodez ( 864176 ) on Tuesday October 14, 2008 @08:28PM (#25377315)

          Guy walks into a bar with an octopus, tells the bartender, "hey, hire me, my talking octopus will bring in customers!". Bartender says, "big deal, talking animals, we've had talking horses, dogs, fish, birds...get out of here with your stupid octopus." Guy says, "but wait, my octopus can play any instrument like a virtuoso". Bar tender points to piano, says "let's see him do something on the keyboard." Octopus goes over to piano, starts playing with eight arms, sounds like four concert pianists jamming. Bar tender yells over to live band, to bring over a guitar. Octopus plays incredible music, sounds like three guitar masters playing. Bartender says, give him a trumpet, octopus plays jazz with blinding fury over six octave range. Scotsman over in the corner says "'old on just a minute, let's us see 'im do somethin' wi' me bagpipes". Scotsman hands over his pipes to the octopus. Octopus coils and flops and grabs all over the bagpipes, nothing coming out but occasional off key honks and burps and toots. Bartender says "haha, look at him flounder, he doesn't know how to play those". Octopus looks up from his struggles and says "play it?, as soon as I figure out how to get its pajamas off, I'm gonna fuck it!"

      • by rk ( 6314 ) * on Tuesday October 14, 2008 @05:48PM (#25375819) Journal
        I once took my banjo with me to the bad part of town. I ran into a store for just a minute to buy a soda, leaving the banjo in the car. Wouldn't you know it? When I came back someone smashed my window had put another banjo right next to it.
      • by Mex ( 191941 ) on Tuesday October 14, 2008 @05:55PM (#25375899)

        A banjo player wins the lottery. The newspaper asks: "What will you do now that you are a rich man?"

        The banjo player replies: "Well, I guess I'll keep on gigging until the money runs out..."

      • by plover ( 150551 ) *
        "Paddle faster! I hear banjo music!"
      • I'm pretty sure Steve Martin lives in a mansion...

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrlqQ1_vZVE [youtube.com]

      • Some biochemists were hanging out at the bar after a big pharmaceutical convention. One was telling a group at a table, "Did you know that in our laboratory we have switched from rats to
        banjo players for our drug trials?" Another at the table said, "That's interesting, what's the reason for the change?" "Well, there are three main benefits. First off, we found that banjo players are far more plentiful; second, the lab assistants don't get so attached to them; and third, there are some things even a rat

      • by Big Nothing ( 229456 ) <tord.stromdal@gmail.com> on Wednesday October 15, 2008 @01:15AM (#25379261)

        "Legendary Blue Grass musician Eddie Adcock has undergone brain surgery to treat a hand tremor, playing his banjo throughout to test the success of the procedure."

        Unfortunately, the procedure was a failure - he can still play the banjo...

      • Steve Martin (yes, the comedian) won a Grammy for banjo playing (on some else's album, not solo).
      • by KGIII ( 973947 ) *

        Jerry Garcia springs to mind as the most successful banjo player in modern times. As a trivial matter I have picked at a banjo but I'd not call myself skilled at it really as I have no formal training but they're fun to pick at.

        Then again, a hammered dulcimer and mandolin are also a lot of fun but both of those require pretty much no skill at all.

      • Q: How can you tell if a banjo player is level-headed?
        A: He drools out of both sides of his mouth.
    • Holy aspect distortion!

      Shit like that makes me hate things like youtube.

    • He's got a real purty medulla oblongata...
  • Comment removed (Score:5, Interesting)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Tuesday October 14, 2008 @04:00PM (#25374411)
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    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      >> or even consider it irksome noise

      On the other hand, if the feeling is specific to banjo noise, the individual is considered normal.

    • ...have lost all interest in music, or even consider it irksome noise.

      Have you listened to the radio lately? I'm in that boat without the brain surgery.
  • by houstonbofh ( 602064 ) on Tuesday October 14, 2008 @04:01PM (#25374423)
    I was told that to really appreciate music, you have to get inside the head of the musician. This wins...
  • obvious (Score:2, Funny)

    "It's not Lupus, now go fry his brain."
  • Title (Score:5, Interesting)

    by internerdj ( 1319281 ) on Tuesday October 14, 2008 @04:02PM (#25374449)
    Did anyone else find the title more interesting without reading the summary?
  • ...can now breathe a sigh of relief.
  • I guess... (Score:5, Funny)

    by Box Checker ( 710832 ) on Tuesday October 14, 2008 @04:07PM (#25374499)
    ...this means when i have the surgery i will be enjoying some self loving, in the form of hand pleasure. "The most sensible thing to do was to tweak the system while Adcock was playing the banjo to optimize the effect for the thing that's most important to him.""
  • the bariatric surgery retractor and the spinal pedicle screw have successfully been used to perform "I am a Man of Constant Sorrow" by the Soggy Bottom Boys

  • Hmmm. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by SatanicPuppy ( 611928 ) * <Satanicpuppy@nosPAm.gmail.com> on Tuesday October 14, 2008 @04:09PM (#25374545) Journal

    Actually this isn't that unusual. In nerosurguries where the goal is not to correct some gross defect (e.g. cancer, stroke, railroad spike in a frontal lobe) the subject is often kept awake while the surgeon uses a probe to see if they can stimulate the neurological event that they're trying to surpress. I've seen it mostly with things like epilepsy, but I've been following the deep brain stim research, and it seems completely logical that they'd use the same methodology for that procedure.

    That being said, watching a video (oh yes, there are videos) of someone with a big chunk out of the top of their head chattering away while a bunch of surgeons stand around behind them, poking at their brain...Lot of times the stimulation will create neurological artifacts...Memories, smells, lights...It's truly bizarre to watch. Not for the weak of stomach. //Former cognitive science major. Didn't much care for neuroanatomy.

    • Agreed, I remember when one of the Hannibal Lecter movies which spurred some discussion on this. It was the movie that featured the scene of a man with the top of his head removed, fully conscious, and having his brain sliced up by the cannibal, who cooked it and subsequently fed it back to the (lobotomized?) man.

      It seems like most people balked at the idea of this being possible, but it seems it definitely is (or at least more plausible than some would think).
      I watched a couple videos of brain surgery out

    • It seems dangerous to be trying to stimulate seizures (as in the case of epilepsy) when your tools are in the patient's squishy matter.
      • by fm6 ( 162816 )

        Easy enough to secure the patient. And often stimulating seizures helps the neurosurgeon what to cut in order the prevent further seizures. Wilder Penfield, who pioneered this kind of surgery, has a really graphic description of such an operation in his autobiography.

    • "That being said, watching a video (oh yes, there are videos) of someone with a big chunk out of the top of their head chattering away while a bunch of surgeons stand around behind them, poking at their brain...Lot of times the stimulation will create neurological artifacts...Memories, smells, lights...It's truly bizarre to watch. Not for the weak of stomach. //Former cognitive science major. Didn't much care for neuroanatomy."

      But it would have been more interesting if they had been poking this [wikipedia.org] brain.

    • I've seen this done quite a few times during stereotaxic surgery for Parkinson's disease by the late Dr. Hirotaro Narabayashi in Tokyo. This involved destruction of cells in the ventro-lateral nucleus of the thalamus. A stereotaxic apparatus is used in combination with X-ray and listening to the output of a recording electrode to drive an electrode into the correct location. When that location is found, the drive is locked and the recording electrode replaced by an RF power electrode. The patient remains a

  • off a skyscraper, which one hits the ground first?

    A. Who cares?

    • by BluBrick ( 1924 )

      Q. What's the range of a banjo?

      A. About 15 yards with a good arm.

      Q. What's the difference between a banjo player and a frog?

      A. The frog might get a gig one day.

      A musician goes to the police station and, clearly distressed, says "Officer, I left a banjo on the back seat of my car and the window was open." The officer says "Do you want to report a theft?". Musician says "No, you don't understand - Now I have two banjos!"

      s/banjo/bagpipe/

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by qengho ( 54305 )
      Q: What's the definition of perfect pitch?

      A: When you toss a banjo into a dumpster and it lands on an accordion.
  • There's gotta be a Steve Martin joke in here somewhere.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    They could insert an electrode to stop the part of her brain that makes her talk. She'd definitely be talking through the entire procedure, so they'd have incentive to get it done right quick.

  • by Tablizer ( 95088 ) on Tuesday October 14, 2008 @04:19PM (#25374687) Journal

    I am currently trolling on slashdot to test the success of my brain surgery. So far everything is just fi ~2 ,'`~ s asb a77777777777

  • Incredible (Score:5, Insightful)

    by symes ( 835608 ) on Tuesday October 14, 2008 @04:19PM (#25374689) Journal
    I find this both increible and humbling at the same time... incredible because of the patient's bravery and the surgeons ability to get in there and treat his condition. But humbling because it seems like a car engineer repeatedly reving an engine when trying to work out where some squeek or somesuch is coming from. Perhaps one day we'll have scanners that can analyse brain function and guide tiny little robots to make repairs - rather than cut the top of someone's head off while they play the bango.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by merreborn ( 853723 )

      But humbling because it seems like a car engineer repeatedly reving an engine when trying to work out where some squeek or somesuch is coming from.

      When you put it like that, it does sound primitive, like medieval bloodletting.

    • by jcuervo ( 715139 )

      But humbling because it seems like a car engineer repeatedly reving an engine when trying to work out where some squeek or somesuch is coming from.

      I was working on an engine that wouldn't start once, and I asked one of my bosses for a pointer. He said, basically, "whack the starter with a hammer. If it starts after that, or even sounds moderately different, it's a bad starter."

      I whacked it with a hammer. It started. The starter was bad.

    • Re:Incredible (Score:5, Interesting)

      by cbnewman ( 106449 ) on Tuesday October 14, 2008 @09:59PM (#25378029)

      As a neurosurgeon, I have been involved in procedures like this (although not with a banjo player). To evaluate the efficacy of the tremor suppression, we frequently ask the patient to sip a glass of water.

      The analogy of a surgeon as a glorified human body mechanic has been used on me in the past, too. I will accept the comparison with the following conditions:

      Next time you take your car in, tell your mechanic that
      1. You only plan on having one car for the rest of your life and
      2. When they work on your car, they have to leave the engine running.

      • On the other hand, you probably haven't had much luck taking a patient that's been dead for years, swapped out a few parts, and get them running again with just a wrench and parts from Autozone. Or at least I hope not.
  • Either the name of the next rock band or a new video game... honestly, I'm hoping for the video game.
  • ... if this is a pretty blonde girl from Minnesota or Wisconsin doing this on me. Sign me up.

  • Geezz, when I read the title, it sounded like they actually used a bango to perform surgery.

    The title should read "Bango used DURING surgery" not "Bango used IN surgery"

  • by polyomninym ( 648843 ) on Tuesday October 14, 2008 @04:35PM (#25374889)
    Dueling Brain-Stems??? Gotta love it! Anyone for "Devil Went Down to Thalamus"? Ok, I'll stop here.
  • an accordion player. Else there might've been an "accident".

  • ... now the RIAA will have operatives dressed as nursing staff to slap cease and desist orders on any brain surgeon who tries to replicate this.
  • This reads like an episode of House [imdb.com]!
  • by Anonymous Coward

    The most sensible thing to do was to tweak the system while Adcock was playing the banjo to optimize the effect for the thing that's most important to him.

    HA! Yeah, until he discovers his penis no longer works!

  • by R3PUBLIC0N ( 972656 ) on Tuesday October 14, 2008 @04:48PM (#25375063)
    I guess in this case, the banjo tuned him.
  • by istartedi ( 132515 ) on Tuesday October 14, 2008 @04:55PM (#25375135) Journal

    Jackhammer. Now that's news.

    Or how about: "Good thing he doesn't play the tuba".

  • by dogmatixpsych ( 786818 ) on Tuesday October 14, 2008 @04:59PM (#25375189) Journal
    If anyone is wondering about the type of surgery being performed, here is a link describing it: http://mdc.mbi.ufl.edu/candidate/candidate-whatisdbs.htm [ufl.edu]

    With Deep Brain Stimulation, the patient is often awake for as much of the surgery as possible. The surgeries usually can be done in a morning or an afternoon.

    Here is a video of a DBS surgery: http://www.or-live.com/vanderbilt/2319/ [or-live.com]
  • ...for a #5 scalpel godamnit!

    Will someone PLEASE fire that nurse!
  • and he wants to know if he'll be able to play the banjo if the surgery is a success. The doctor reassures him that he will. The guy is amazed and says "that's incredible! I never could figure it out before."

  • Anyone else picturing the guy playing this [wikipedia.org]? Mind you, it probably wouldn't sound as sinister on the banjo.
  • by Vrst1013 ( 1216232 ) on Tuesday October 14, 2008 @07:28PM (#25376821)
    ...on whose shoulders everyone else is standing. SDs readership has never heard of him, but he's a pioneer and still a great player. A nice guy too, and a good teacher. He did a terrific banjo workshop at my school when I was an undergrad, and kept showing us licks and cracking us up with stories, for hours past the scheduled time.
  • I think it's great and all, that they can help the guy. But doesn't this seem a bit.... Low Tech? Sure, it's brain surgery, and it takes "mad skillz" to do that properly, but think about it.

    If I may be so bold as to make a car analogy -

    It's like the mechanic taking the hood off the car, strapping himself to the engine, telling you to drive down the road, and banging on the engine in different spots and having you yell when the funny noise stops.

    I sincerely hope that some day we truly understand the
  • How many of you when you read the title had "Dueling Banjo's" the theme from Deliverance in your head? How many more of the did what I did and immediately had an image of GW pop into your head?
  • The most sensible thing to do was to tweak the system while Adcock was playing the banjo to optimize the effect for the thing that's most important to him.

    So . . . they calibrated his brain?

    Where can I go to get a brain tuning optimized for programming computers and playing games? I see huge potential in this. Scary potential, true, but huge all the same.

    A couple generations of this and "specialist" and "idiot savant" will be synonyms :-)

  • I'm calling prior art on this one. Marilyn Manson used a guitar in brain surgery on Garth Brooks in Celebrity Deathmatch Season 1 [jibjab.com]. Many saw it as a fantastic success, but Hanson disagreed...
  • ...has been used in brain surgery.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLCL [wikipedia.org]

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