Mars Polar Cap Mystery Solved 77
Matt_dk writes "Scientists are now able to explain why Mars' residual southern ice cap is misplaced, thanks to data from ESA's Mars Express spacecraft (the same probe running the 'Mars Webcam'). It turns out the martian weather system is to blame. And so is the largest impact crater on Mars — even though it is nowhere near the south pole. Like Earth, Mars has frozen polar caps, but unlike Earth, these caps are made of carbon dioxide ice as well as water ice. During the southern hemisphere's summer, much of the ice cap sublimates, a process in which the ice turns straight back into gas, leaving behind what is known as the residual polar cap. The mystery was that while the winter cap is symmetrical about the south pole, the residual cap was offset, and scientists couldn't figure out why."
What do they mean 'misplaced'? (Score:5, Funny)
It's right where I left it.
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Re:What do they mean 'misplaced'? (Score:5, Funny)
In the sofa cushions? That's where I usually find my keys. Did NASA find their keys, too? What about the TV remote?
Yep. You should always look in the couch cushions. And under the couch. That's where I found Jesus.
Re:What do they mean 'misplaced'? (Score:5, Funny)
You work for the Border Patrol or the Bureau of Immigration?
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I found Jesus too, he steals hubcaps from cars.
Water Ice (Score:1, Funny)
Frost poast?
Mar's ice cap is made of water ice!
The answer is simple (Score:5, Funny)
Mars did the calculation for one pole in Metric and the other one in Imperial. That's why they don't line up.
Of all people, NASA should know this.
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There's a whole lot of people running loose that can't grasp that Earth's ice cap shrinks because of the Earth's summer.
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Fortunately we have Earth's winters to come around and correct that shrinking.
That's global cooling, my friend. Why else would the ice cap grow so much in so little time?
Alien planet (Score:5, Interesting)
It seems absurdly simple, but it is quite foreign to meteorology on our planet to have an impact crater affecting the global climate and weather patterns. That will be just another of those little things that will give future astronauts the "this isn't Kansas anymore" feeling as they live on another planet.
Re:Alien planet (Score:5, Funny)
"It seems absurdly simple, but it is quite foreign to meteorology on our planet to have an impact crater affecting the global climate and weather patterns."
Tell that to the dinosaurs...
Re:Alien planet (Score:5, Funny)
Tell that to the dinosaurs...
They aren't in Kansas anymore, either...
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Nope. They were outlawed there three years ago [democratic...ground.com].
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heh, make sure you don't miss the first two lines when reading that "article."
May 13, 2005
Satire by David Albrecht
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whooooooosh
Re:Alien planet (Kansas) (Score:2)
Weather here (in Kansas) is fine, and we do have a lot of former astronauts and astronomers from Kansas.
We also have a must-see, while you're on the topic -- the Cosmosphere! It's got a *lot* more space artifacts than the Air and Space Museum.... Too bad it's in Hutchinson, KS, though:
http://www.cosmo.org/ [cosmo.org]
Re:Alien planet (Score:5, Informative)
One of the initial effects will be a huge cloud of dust, blocking almost all sunlight for years at at time - this is what caused the mass extinction at the end of the cretaceous. Others include giant tsunamis (if it crashes into a liquid), 'rain' of molten rock and ash, earthquakes, ect
However, on Earth, there are few long term effects, none of which include altering global weather patterns long term. This is due to our planet's ever-changing surface, with new land being created, land being destroyed, and of course continental drift. Mars has no active volcanism and no continental drift, therefore a surface feature which would be rapidly (in geological terms) altered on Earth would last for a very, very long time on Mars.
Another thing is that we have a much thicker atmosphere, reducing the size of the asteroid before impact, AND the probability of it hitting solid ground as opposed to water is about 30/70.
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And they probably sound the sirens whenever there's one of those dust devils, too. *rolls eyes*
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>> it is quite foreign to meteorology on our planet to have an impact crater affecting the global climate and weather patterns.
An impact crater, yes, but other geographic features (both much smaller and much larger than 2300 km) have a huge effect on terrestrial weather.
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Well, since most asteroid belt objects are rocky/metallic bodies, you could crash all of them into Mars and not make it in the least bit more livable than it is right now.
Now maybe water bearing Kuiper belt objects...
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Marvin vindicated (Score:5, Funny)
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Pfft. That spokesduck is a tracer.
The real reason is that... (Score:5, Funny)
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But they are spellin' gangsta style
Hmm. The phrase ... (Score:2)
"Knocked into a cocked hat" comes to mind for some reason.
Martian atmosphere (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't know why, but I always though of Mars as a planet without an atmosphere. Perhaps like our Moon, just much bigger. So when first reading the article, I thought that as soon as the carbon dioxide gas sublimated, it would be lost to space.
However, the atmosphere is just really thin: http://starryskies.com/solar_system/mars/martian_atmosphere.html [starryskies.com]
So, thanks to Slashdot, I once again expand my knowledge of the universe and learned something new today!
Maybe now the ending scene in Total Recall makes some more sense? I'll have to rewatch it and see...
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I don't know why, but I always though of Mars as a planet without an atmosphere.
Uh, did you miss the very recent slashdot article [slashdot.org]?
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If it were lost, how would it condense again in the next winter?
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The ending of Total Recall makes perfect sense. It only causes problems if you insist that the ludicrously over-the-top secret agent action hero scenario was actually real, as opposed to what your man had in fact paid for at the very beginning.
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Maybe now the ending scene in Total Recall makes some more sense? I'll have to rewatch it and see...
No, that won't help...
Newsflash, bitches! (Score:1, Flamebait)
Still not answered... (Score:5, Funny)
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Nope. It's dodgy.
Two mysteries linked by Rossby waves (Score:5, Interesting)
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Here are some pics and analysis [nasa.gov] that don't require $60 / year to read.
Carbondioxide-ice (Score:1)
Re:Carbondioxide-ice (Score:5, Funny)
I heard that it's sublime!
Sublimes, not sublimates, (Score:2)
sublimate is a nasty, redundant back-formation.
Sorry, but... but.... actually, I'm not sorry. I'm a pedant.
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Unless you're talking psychology.
rj
Conk (Score:2)
Why? (Score:2)
The mystery was that while the winter cap is symmetrical about the south pole, the residual cap was offset, and scientists couldn't figure out why."
You're trying to make us read the fine article, aren't you!
Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars Trilogy (Score:3, Informative)
I don't know if anyone else has read this trilogy, but I'm currently finishing the last book in the Red/Green/Blue Mars trilogy.
This series follows a group of scientists as they inhabit and eventually terraform (partially) Mars. It's fantastic how accurate this book has been, covering complex topics on the effort to get to Mars, benefits and detriments to the explorers' health, even engineering feats such as how one might build a true space elevator (by anchoring it to a geostationary asteroid).
He specifically discusses and explains the polar-cap phenomenon caused by a massive meteorite strike. He explains and discusses the weather patterns, atmosphere and insolation issues. Recently, every "discovery" made on Mars has felt like a bit of déja vu, because he has written about it — even “predicted” it — in these books.
But what really impresses me is that the first book (containing all of these elements) was written in 1992. 16 years ago!
Check them out if you like complex, deep science fiction. These are on the complexity order of the Dune trilogy, but far more grounded in current technology.
We knew this already (Score:3, Informative)
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This proves what the speculated on in that article.
The article has good science in there, and people in the know aren't surprised by the confirmation, but...I don't know how to end this sentence.
Duct Tape (Score:1)