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Drug Halts Decline In Alzheimer's Patients 222

ljw1004 writes "Alzheimer's researchers are divided on whether the disease is caused by 'beta amyloid' (a peptide found in Alzheimer brains) or by 'tau protein' (normally used for cellular scaffolding, but can aggregate out of control and destroy neurons). Today in Chicago a new drug has been announced that stops tau aggregation and appears to have halted Alzheimer's-related decline in 300 clinical trial patients. The drug is known as 'rember.' Do you have friends or family who appear to be on the road to dementia? Here is an online questionnaire, part of one used in the clinical trial to diagnose dementia. (Disclosure: I made the online questionnaire, and my father is one of the scientists behind the drug.)"
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Drug Halts Decline In Alzheimer's Patients

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  • Rember (Score:4, Interesting)

    by StarfishOne ( 756076 ) on Wednesday July 30, 2008 @08:18AM (#24399599)

    "The drug is known as 'rember.' "

    Is that a deliberate pun on 'remember'? :?

    • Re:Rember (Score:5, Funny)

      by Nasajin ( 967925 ) on Wednesday July 30, 2008 @08:23AM (#24399643)
      I imagine they started writing remember, but forgot how far they'd gotten when committing it to paper.
    • Re:Rember (Score:5, Insightful)

      by StarfishOne ( 756076 ) on Wednesday July 30, 2008 @08:24AM (#24399657)

      For clarity and completeness I should add:

      This is awesome news. My grandfather is suffering from an advanced state of this disease and it's horrible to see in what state he currently 'lives'.

      He does not recognize me, or my brothers, or my parents (inc. his own son!).

      Perhaps my first post (parent) sounded like I did not take this seriously. I guess it's more of a coping mechanism that got in action.

      To all the scientists: please keep up this wonderful work! It'll probably be too late for my grandfather, but no-one should have to suffer like.

      I hope that it won't be long before it helps to save many lives from being destroyed.

      • Re:Rember (Score:4, Insightful)

        by blahplusplus ( 757119 ) on Wednesday July 30, 2008 @08:52AM (#24399987)

        "He does not recognize me, or my brothers, or my parents (inc. his own son!)."

        This just goes to show us how important our memory systems are in our intelligence and what an important role it plays in our lives.

        • Re:Rember (Score:5, Insightful)

          by Smallpond ( 221300 ) on Wednesday July 30, 2008 @08:58AM (#24400051) Homepage Journal

          Unless you recently fired a bunch of US Attorneys, in which case losing your memory can be extraordinarily helpful.

        • quite the opposite (Score:3, Insightful)

          by Anonymous Coward

          Actually, watching someone with advancing (but not yet devestating) Alzheimers can also show you how little memory is needed for intelligence. People can continue to cope in social situations for quite a while operating almost statelessly to guess at how they should behave. Only when you pay close attention do you realize the serious short-term memory deficit.

          • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

            by ljw1004 ( 764174 )

            The late Sir Martin Roth, a leading UK psychiatrist, always used to insist: "Alzheimers is NOT a disease of cognition". It has two separate components: the loss of personhood, and the loss of memory/cognition. In the questionnaire, one of the questions that best correlates with the onset of the disease is "... and for how long have you been depressed?"

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by pitje ( 1083069 )
        you mean it's horrible for you to see how he's doing. He's probably past the stage where he knows that 'there is something wrong'.
        That's the stage I had the most problems with when my grandfather had Alzheimers'.
        When he got to the stage where he thought he was a little boy again, he was much more cheerful. Again, for the family it was no pleasure to see that, but he had the time of his life :)
        • Re:Rember (Score:5, Insightful)

          by StarfishOne ( 756076 ) on Wednesday July 30, 2008 @09:42AM (#24400663)

          He's probably past the stage where he knows that 'there is something wrong'.

          First of all I understand completely what you're saying and to a certain extend that is true.

          But on the other side, his body is starting to fail and he is suffering from that. "Gradually, minor and major bodily functions are lost" as Wikipedia describes it [wikipedia.org].

          It's getting somewhat better now, but recently he could barely breath, general pain all over his body and basically unable to swallow, combined with a cough he developed. He could not even eat Apple mush when helped.

          Every now and then he has a 'good moment' and suddenly he can say more than 5 words without falling asleep again, but the general condition is suffering for him.

          I know this could sound weird to some, but every time he closes his eyes I just hope that he drifts away to a better place and stays there.

          • Sadly I understand.

            My grandmother suffered extreme bursts of anger towards the family, it was horrible trying to deal with it. At times she believed that we were constantly trying to trick her by moving things around, lying to her about our identities, etc. When she passed away we were almost relieved, not having seen the worst of what was to come... I guess that goes a long way to describing how horrible this disease really is.

            I cannot explain how relieved I am that I may never have to experience it myself

            • by ljw1004 ( 764174 )

              I'm sorry to hear about your grandmother. It sounds heartbreaking. With our statistical analysis of the questionnaire results, what became clear was that alzheimers was a disease where (1) the sufferer lost their "personhood", and (2) the sufferer lots their cognitive faculties. You clearly experienced the first part. It's a shame that current FDA regulatory approval only take into account effectiveness for point (2).

      • Re:Rember (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 30, 2008 @09:19AM (#24400349)

        I don't mean to hurt your feelings, but I do work in health care, on a Memory Care Unit, specifically. The MCU is designed for people with many forms of dementia, our most common diagnosis being Alzheimer's. I am sure you know many of the ugly symptoms of this disease. Confusion, loss of memory, loss of fine motor skills, deteriorating ability to perform activities of daily living, eventual death, etc. This drug may sound like a godsend, but think about it for a moment.

        If your loved one breaks down crying several times a day because he or she can't tell where everyone is or where they are, if he goes into violent rages because he thinks he is being held against his will, if he lives in a constant state of fear because he knows something is wrong but he can't figure out what it is, if he tries day after day to go home but his captors refuse to et him go, causing him to fear for his life... do you really want a drug that will keep him in that state, somewhat permanently?

        At best, wait until the affected person progresses to a state of Alzheimer's that is more comfortable for him or her -- around stage 5 (out of 7 total) people forget that something is wrong and they happily live their lives in total confusion. Then start the drug therapy. But stalling people's progress in a state that makes them absolutely miserable is not a miracle drug's miracle cure. It's torture.

        Check out http://www.iatbdementiacare.com/index2.html [iatbdementiacare.com] I worked with the guy who runs the site and wrote the book on Dementia Possible Care. He is crazy insightful and smart when it comes to caring for people with Alzheimer's. Trust me, the $20 for the book will serve you tremendously.

        • Think about it this way, if the drug halt further onset of Alzheimer's as they claim, the value of it as a first treatment before they reach the stage you describe is immeasurable.

          It this is the miracle drug, the next step is early diagnosis before there is too much degeneration of the mind.

        • Re:Rember (Score:5, Insightful)

          by StarfishOne ( 756076 ) on Wednesday July 30, 2008 @09:55AM (#24400905)

          do you really want a drug that will keep him in that state, somewhat permanently?

          No, definitely not. You raise a valid point and I understand it completely.

          My parent post should be seen more in the light of 'progress IS finally being made'... perhaps one day we can label it a disease that can be prevented.

          Not just for 'everyone out there', but I have to admit also from a slightly selfish perspective:

          Researchers do not know the exact cause of Alzheimer's disease, but it is most likely due to a combination of a variety of genetic and other factors. Genetic research is concentrating on the role of heredity -- the transmission of qualities and illnesses from parents to children -- in determining risk for, and development of, Alzheimer's disease.

          My grand father was a fish salesman for his entire life. All the Omega 3 fish oil he has ingested wasn't enough to prevent it.

          Then there's my father. We (mother, brother, me) are not sure if it's his current stress level, but in the last few months he is less 'sharp' than he used to be and his memory does fail him every now and then.

          He's 57 and the idea alone that he might be heading for the same road is very terrifying to say the least.

          And my brother and I are also starting to fear that we might have inherited a genetic disposition for this disease.

          Personally I love learning.. I'm an addicted to knowledge and I'll pick up a book in bed even if my body is almost robbing me of my consciousness by force.

          The idea that 'everything that I am' might one day start to slowly degrade freaks me out. Euthanasia is a word that comes up in this context if this situation might start to become a reality in a (hopefully) very distant future.

          • The idea that 'everything that I am' might one day start to slowly degrade freaks me out.

            Everyone declines. Everyone dies. Nobody gets out alive. Such is life on Earth.

            • "Everyone declines. Everyone dies. "

              Yes, true, true.

              But there's quite a difference between what I shall call 'normal decline' and 'Alzheimer induced decline'.

              It's normal that ones body will start to function less well... but also losing ones mental functions?

              My grandfather is 86 now. His mother reached the high age of 96.. and she was sooo sharp. Definitely not one you could fool. Her son, now 10 years younger is just a shadow of who he was.

        • Re:Rember (Score:4, Insightful)

          by SpcCowboy ( 1303133 ) on Wednesday July 30, 2008 @10:06AM (#24401051)
          You make a valid point for patients who are already in the MCU, but your thinking is a bit shortsighted. If this drug works as advertised, it truly IS a godsend; not to those who have deteriorated to a state requiring constant care, but rather those patients who are diagnosed in the early stages of the disease. In this population, the drug could prevent them from ever progressing to the point that hospitalization is necessary.
        • by Creepy ( 93888 )

          Nice to point out there are many types of dementia other than Alzheimer's - my grandpa has stroke induced dementia caused by bleeding in the brain and doesn't seem capable of generating any new long term memories. Barring another stroke, it is unlikely he will ever change from his current stage (which happens to be about the anger and confusion stage, but I'm not sure if he has a specific ranking - my mom is a nurse and more on top of that sort of thing). The worst problem for him is he lost most of his m

    • Re: (Score:2, Redundant)

      by elrous0 ( 869638 ) *
      Shit, too late for me. And who are you people?
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by JamesP ( 688957 )

      "The drug is known as 'rember.' "

      Too bad even though it stops Alzheimers, it causes dyslexia...

    • Just having a look at the questionnaire, I'm not entirely sure if it's appropriate for diagnosis. Most of the questions are very leading and closed. Questions like "Do you feel sad, depressed or miserable?" and "Do you feel more tense or worried than usual?" are hard to answer truthfully, and it's far more effective for a doctor to diagnose someone with light chat about how they're living, rather than trying to suggest to them what's wrong. It's like diagnosing someone with psychosis, you don't just ask t
    • by jhfry ( 829244 )

      Rember is a much better name than Member.

      I always thought remember was a strange word... I don't member anything, so how can I possibly RE-member it?

      Either way, I'm glad I don't have to worry about hearing my dear old grandfather say "hold on son I have to grab my member" when we are headed out of the house. And god forbid grandma tells the ladies in her bridge club that she loves member, she takes two at a time, and they are actually easy to swallow!

      Here's to you, great pharmasutical drug namer, thank you

  • While the article says that the disease was halted in 300 trial patients, it's not quite clear that the effects of the disease can be reversed. So those in the early stages have perhaps gotten their lucky break, but many who have already progressed down the road to lunacy are still without reprieve.

    I'm glad to see such progress being made, and more importantly that aluminum cans and deodorant have been vindicated. Seriously though, I'm turning Japanese isn't just a song anymore, it's a long gone daddy in th

  • by oodaloop ( 1229816 ) on Wednesday July 30, 2008 @08:22AM (#24399639)
    It's hard to think of a scarier disease than one where you slowly lose your mental faculties. I'd take almost any other disease over Alzheimer's.
    • by BadAnalogyGuy ( 945258 ) <BadAnalogyGuy@gmail.com> on Wednesday July 30, 2008 @08:24AM (#24399661)

      It's hard to think of a scarier disease than one where you slowly lose your mental faculties.

      Ebola [wikipedia.org]

      • by hansraj ( 458504 ) * on Wednesday July 30, 2008 @08:30AM (#24399719)

        Let me see: On one hand I have a disease that gives me a rather quick (even though painful) death, and on other I have something that slowly turns me into a vegetable. Tough choice? I think not.

        If I was forced to pick one (without a hope for cure once I made my choice) I would pick Ebola any day of the week. Thank you very much.

      • by PakProtector ( 115173 ) <cevkiv@@@gmail...com> on Wednesday July 30, 2008 @08:47AM (#24399943) Journal

        Haemorrhagic Fevers are bad, but not as bad as the public seems to paint them. Films such as Outbreak, and books such as Richard Preston's Hot Zone have made it seem like Filoviruses and other haemorrhagic diseases kill you in a matter of hours and cause you to have to be buried in a water-tight plastic bag. This is about as accurate as saying cancer patients are going to mutant into something that looks like a Horta due to out-of-control cellular replication.

        For Ebola in particular, there are methods of treatment, including a post-exposure vaccine that has shown to be 99% effective in monkeys. The only downside is that it must be administered very quickly, or there will be too much damage already done to the patient (within 4 days.)

        I can thinking of many ways of dying that are far more agonising that Ebola. MS would be one. To be gradually robbed of my motor and mental skills would be a horrible and terrifying experience. As someone who recently lost a family member who suffered from senile dementia (and whose dementia was directly responsible for her death), I can say that it is definitely worse for the sufferer than for the family. As painful as your loved one not knowing who you are is, it is far more painful for them, and to watch them, come back to moments of lucidity, only to have to have where they are and what has happened explained to them yet again.

        I think it is a sign of the times that people seem to think that physical agony can even begin to compare to psychological agony.

        • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

          Judging from the number of spelling errors in the above post, I think it's safe to say that I am already being gradually robbed of at least one of my cognitive functions.

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by rugatero ( 1292060 )

          I think it is a sign of the times that people seem to think that physical agony can even begin to compare to psychological agony.

          On the contrary, I think it is only a recent development that we can see psychological pain as being as real or more real than physical pain. It is not so long ago that mental problems were casually dismissed by most as being 'just in your head'.

          The point I'm trying to make is that modern society is improving in this regard, rather than degrading.

          • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

            Apparently you've never talked to any one of the large number of men in America who saw combat in either World War II, Korea, Vietnam, or any of the other myriad police actions we've been involved in. I think the older generations are very well aware that there are things worse than painful death; being the one who didn't die can be a horrible, horrible experience.

            Anyone who grew up in the 20's or 30's, or the 40's or 60's and 70's and saw the wounded who returned home, missing arms and legs, hands, eyes,

            • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

              by rugatero ( 1292060 )
              I'm perfectly aware of the horrific effect that such things had on people's minds. I am also aware of how callously they were treated. WWI soldiers suffering 'shell-shock' were branded as cowards and traitors. In WWII, the US military would use the euphemistic term 'exhaustion' to refer to psychiatric problems, rather than face the true impact on the soldier.
            • by TheLink ( 130905 )
              Thing is, many people are not quite sure what happens after death.

              If it just ends there, then sure there are far far worse things than death.

              BUT if we have an immortal soul and we "kind of remain as we are", then eternity is a bit too long for an immortal but _imperfect_ person.

              Hands up those of you who are perfect and can handle an eternity of existence.
      • Ebola has, what, a 40% mortality rate, and it's over one way or the other in less than two weeks.
        Alzheimer's, in contrast, has (until now) a 100% mortality rate and takes *years* of horribleness.

        I'll take Ebola, thanks.

      • by TheLink ( 130905 )
        Ebola doesn't scare me. Odds are you die in a few days. Painful sure. You'd probably hate it every moment, but I think the bright side is you know it'll be over _soon_.

        Dementia is a pretty bad way to go. The end stage is probably not so bad for the person with it (just bad for everyone around who cares). But the months where you know you are malfunctioning bit by bit can be pretty depressing.

        What scares me would be to not lose all my mental faculties but instead "just" be trapped without sight or sound or m
    • by SirShmoopie ( 1333857 ) on Wednesday July 30, 2008 @08:29AM (#24399717)

      Its nasty, I worked in Alzheimers care for years.

      What's worse is the routine treatment of Alzheimers patients with anti psychotic drugs, Most of my time as a nurse in that field was spent undoing the damage caused by such ill advised prescribing of chemical straight jackets to deal with minor behavioural issues.
      If this drug can stop Alzheimers from getting worse once diagnosed I'd be happy, both professionally, and selfishly (I want Pratchett on this stuff NOW).

      • I worked in Alzheimers care for years.

        I've already posted in this topic anyway, but I wish there was a mod option that is something like 'very grateful and respect'.

        I salute your and your colleagues SirShmoopie!

      • I agree with you entirely, we need to do more to learn how to deal with the emotional and communication issues caused by AD and other dementias that lead to behavioual problems. Treatment with anti-psychotics is disgraceful but it's easy to see how it happens.

        These advances in treatment are great for those who will benefit (largely the younger onset cases) but will not prevent the majority of dementia that occurs in the very old without much relationship with tau-related disease. We will see in the future

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by loafula ( 1080631 )
      Locked in syndrome [wikipedia.org] More condition than disease, but this is the worst thing I could imagine anyone ever experiencing.
    • by Frans Faase ( 648933 ) on Wednesday July 30, 2008 @09:02AM (#24400101) Homepage

      Although Alzheimer's Disease might seem a very scary disease, the reality is often that the family members suffer most. As a partner of someone with Alzheimer's Disease, I can affirm this. Although my wife is only in the early stages of the disease, the effects are already dramatic. She is no longer my equal and I often feel I have to treat her like a teenager, as she is showing similar kind of behaviour. Our teenager daughter is also suffering from not having a "normal" mom anymore.

      Although most people with Alzheimer's Disease go through periodes of depression, they often appear to be rather happy with their condition, because they are no longer aware of what has happened to them. They forget that they forget.

    • There's way more scarier things in my opinion. By the time they experience severe issues, it seems they have lost the capability to realise the suffering.
      Now losing your body's functions while still being mentally fully aware, and suffering from excrutiating pain, I find that scarier.

  • Obligatory (Score:3, Funny)

    by Fear the Clam ( 230933 ) on Wednesday July 30, 2008 @08:25AM (#24399667)

    Now what's that drug called...?

    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      "Member" or something. And it's blue. And it's for when people get older...

      I'm pretty sure I used some last weekend, but whatever happened was a little confusing, and I was sore afterward.

  • Video games... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Notquitecajun ( 1073646 ) on Wednesday July 30, 2008 @08:27AM (#24399691)
    Odd thing about Gen-xers and the following generations...due to our proliferation in playing video games, there won't be as many of us with Alzheimer's, but EVERY one of us is going to wind up with carpal tunnel.

    Thank your dad for his research for all of us - this is one of the worst ways to go.
    • ", but EVERY one of us is going to wind up with carpal tunnel."

      From wikipedia:

      "The term 'carpal tunnel' is also used quite commonly to refer to 'carpal tunnel syndrome' which is a condition where the median nerve is compressed within the tunnel and causes pain and/or numbness of the wrist/hand, never proven to be the result of repetitive motion such as painting or typing. It has been shown to be associated with obesity, hypothyroidism, diabetes, pregnancy, family history, rheumatoid arthritis and wrist shap

    • by MobyDisk ( 75490 )

      Can you post a link on the relationship between video games and Alzheimer's? Or do you mean we will all get fat and die of heart disease before we are old enough to get Alzheimer's?

  • (Disclosure: I made the online questionnaire, and my father is one of the scientists behind the drug.)

    oh yeah, well my dad...
  • I answered the questionnaire.
    I got the day of month wrong and occasionally feel depressed. It says I have minimal cognitive impairment.
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      Yeah. And mine said I have no signs of dementia. Clearly this test is fubared!

      (why do I have to wait 7 mintues between posts)?

  • by will_die ( 586523 ) on Wednesday July 30, 2008 @08:39AM (#24399821) Homepage
    So let the complaints on the code begin.
    BTW if you want to get into the fun stuff answer question 1 incorrect and question 2 correct and hit submit.
    On the sad side if you answer questions 1 and 2 correct and then forget the rest of the questions you don't get hit with having some dementia and just a boring all is probably fine screen.
  • by Fallen Andy ( 795676 ) on Wednesday July 30, 2008 @08:40AM (#24399835)
    See here [wikipedia.org] (a very well known biological stain) - so short term toxicity is probably well understood - long term? Who knows yet. At the very least it ought to open the way to a new class of drugs for this terrible condition

    Andy

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    • The Spice (from Frank Herbert's Dune) also gave you those blue in blue eyes. Made me wonder what it will to a "normal" person.
    • by jamesh ( 87723 )

      long term? Who knows yet.

      I was going to write "well... if I had been diagnosed with Alzheimer's, I'd love for 'long term' to be something I'd need to worry about", but thinking about it more, this is more a "stop you getting worse" drug than a "make you better" drug, so the earlier you start taking it the better. And if Alzheimer's can have it's roots 30-40 years in the past as the article suggests, maybe long term toxicity is something to consider...

      Are the really early onset cases of Alzheimer's the same

    • Back when kids chemistry sets contained a few chemicals not found in mom's kitchen and no one was making crank with stuff which was in mom's kitchen, my skillkraft set had something I swear was called "methylethylene blue", but maybe the guy who typed the label stuttered at the keyboard.

      I also vaguely remember that one practical use for medical grade methylene blue was as an antidote for carbon monoxide poisoning [ncl.ac.uk], since it's one of the few not-so-toxic substances which binds to hemoglobin more strongly t
  • I have nothing useful to add to this discussion except to send your father a Thanks for working on things like this. I love my job in IT, but my job will never have as big an impact on humanity as folks like your dad.

  • beta amyloid (Score:5, Interesting)

    by PHPNerd ( 1039992 ) on Wednesday July 30, 2008 @08:59AM (#24400061) Homepage
    (I'm a PhD Neuroscience student) It seems like more and more scientists are moving away from the beta amyloid plaque buildup hypthesis. While it seemed like a great lead, people who die with no symptoms of dementia or Alzheimer's Disease can still have a buildup of beta amyloid plaque as massive as the person who did die of Alzheimer's. It could be that high levels of beta amyloid plaque buildup increases the risk of getting Alzheimer's, though. It's a hard disease to crack, that's for sure. If this new drug really does work, it'll save 5 million lives a year, and that's just in the past few years; as the Baby Boomers all get past 65 we're going to start seeing a massive increase in Alzheimer's Disease.
    • Re:beta amyloid (Score:4, Informative)

      by PakProtector ( 115173 ) <cevkiv@@@gmail...com> on Wednesday July 30, 2008 @09:15AM (#24400283) Journal

      I am not a Doctor (for a couple more years), but...

      I think that Alzheimer's is probably a confluence of different things instead of just a single disease. It could be that the plaque build up does not directly cause Alzheimer's, but that it creates an environment more conducive to the real disease agent's functioning. Or it could be that they are both expressions of an underlying pathology that as yet escapes us -- they're found together not because one causes the other but because they're both caused by the same thing.

      I remember seeing some research a few months ago that showed that treating Alzheimer's patients with drugs to increase insulin sensitivity seemed to have some benefit, suggesting that the disease could be a third form of Diabetes.

      I really do wonder if it should be Alzheimer's Syndrome instead of disease. It seems that there are several different causes of the condition, at least for the moment, which either contribute to the degeneration or could be the direct cause.

    • Re:beta amyloid (Score:4, Informative)

      by stranger_to_himself ( 1132241 ) on Wednesday July 30, 2008 @09:18AM (#24400323) Journal
      I saw a talk by Peter St George Hyslop on this subject a couple of weeks ago. The current thinking is that the presence of smaller beta amyloid oligomers lead to the formation pathogenic form of tau. Whether it's the tau or the beta-amyloid itself that leads to the cognitive impairment is still debated, while this work suggests that the tau is most important, one of my students is presenting work at the same meeting that suggests soluble beta amyloid concentrations (rather than plaques) are key. Neither conclusion to my mind is completely satisfactory.
  • by Bonker ( 243350 ) on Wednesday July 30, 2008 @09:14AM (#24400271)

    He was looking for a high-end brain specialist in neurochemistry at last report. Subby's dad fits the bill.

  • I've been working for years to prevent Alzheimer's with the medications currently available [bbc.co.uk] and it's working great for me!

  • My Great Aunt was the first female high school principal in the city in which I grew up. She was both witty and strong-willed, and achieved success in both her personal and professional lives.

    She passed away from Alzheimer's, perhaps the most degrading, saddening, awful disease that I can imagine. In a sense, it is a fate worse than death -- it robs 'you' of *you*. It's torturous for the afflicted -- there was a period of a few weeks or months where my Great Aunt would wake up every day and have to be re

  • Alzheimer's is one of my worse fears in life, both for me and for loved ones.

    Slowly losing your mind and not being able to do anything about it is terrifying. I guess the only solace one might have is after a certain point, you don't realize it's happening.

  • Is it patentable? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Thelasko ( 1196535 ) on Wednesday July 30, 2008 @09:26AM (#24400447) Journal
    From TFA:

    Methylthioninium chloride is more commonly used as a blue dye in laboratory experiments.

    Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] also notes:

    Methylene blue was used at the end of the century as a successful treatment for malaria. It disappeared as an anti-malarial during the wars in Asia, as U.S. soldiers disliked its two inevitable, fully reversible side effects: green urine and blue sclera. Interest in its use has recently been revived,[1] especially because it is very cheap.

    Which raises the question, is it patentable? TFA notes that the study was funded by a pharmaceutical company, but I am worried that the funding will end when the company discovers that the drug won't be profitable.

    • One of the toughest problems when developing drugs for the brain is crossing the "blood-brain barrier". For instance, neurotransmitters will not cross the barrier, so we can only prescribe drugs that affect them, as opposed to prescribing doses of neurotransmitters themselves.

      I am 100% sure this is patentable, it is not as if nobody knows about methylene blue; and possibly they have patented a way of getting the drug directly into the brain.

      But yes, unpatentable drugs are a real big problem. One of the dr

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by ljw1004 ( 764174 )

      Yes it is patentable, and TauRx holds several patents around the drug. It's not just the chemical itself. You can also patent the formulation, the test-tube tests, the "use of chemical for a specific purpose", the transgenic animal tests...

  • Terry Pratchett has early onset Alzheimer's. Can we sign him up for this treatment?
  • Too bad for the editors this won't be available for a few years.

  • Shame on you making jokes about this dreadful disease. Alzheimer is a disease which takes a heavy toll on those around the patient. There are some subjects which are better off without jokes involved. This exacerbated need for humour is a symptom of need of being oblivious to a harsh reality. Please, get your act together, folks. Let's show some more respect here.
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      If I cried every time something bad happened in the world, I'd never stop crying. Humor is the only way to actually cope with it all.

    • Shame on you making jokes about this dreadful disease.

      My dad seems to have Alzheimer's - he now lives in a veteran's home, often doesn't know who his kids are, or that he has any, who his wife is, etc. It seems like his greatest point of clarity is that he doesn't want to be in the home, so we have to make excuses every time we leave there without him. Plus he had some recent dental issues (all his upper teeth are falling apart) - my mom arranged for him to get dentures, but he had a habit of taking them out and now he's lost them. She won't be getting him

  • Aging in general (Score:2, Interesting)

    by bindo ( 82607 )
    QUESTION FOR THE AUTHOR: ljw1004

    I used to think that aging was a very complex set of events. Most of the people here do as well, as you can see by reading other peoples comments. I actually still do. but the graph at the end of the explanation page has me at least curious:

    http://www.tau-rx.com/quiz/tangles.html [tau-rx.com]

    Squarely 100% of the people are at stage 1 by 85. 50% are at stage 3 or higher.

    Keeping in mind that: "correlation is not causation", and all appropriate memes for the case:

    Do you feel that

  • It seems that Alzheimer's appears to be in part hereditary. From the number of Alzheimer in my direct blood line I knew what potentially was in my future. Not that I care as I would forget everything anyways. It sounds like it is about 5-10 years out from reaching general usage. I know I will need it in about 20 years. Good job!
  • by Kohath ( 38547 ) on Wednesday July 30, 2008 @10:56AM (#24401979)

    This is just another huge money grab for big pharmaceutical companies. Why should you guys get to make any money off of this? All you did was cure Alzheimer's disease. Why should rich people get to avoid dementia when the poorest can't afford it? Shouldn't everyone get dementia equally?

    When are we going to stop these big rich drug companies from making these obscene profits for merely curing diseases and plagues?

    [Evil socialism off]

    I actually hope you guys succeed and make billions. If I get Alzheimer's disease someday, it's nice to know there might be a cure, even if I have to pay you for your effort to find it.

  • by spectecjr ( 31235 ) on Wednesday July 30, 2008 @04:19PM (#24407783) Homepage

    What gets me is that 3 years ago, people found a direct link between HHV1 (Herpes Simplex 1 - the kind you get coldsores from), and Alzheimers; literally, the plaques are riddled with the virus.

    Add into the mix the fact that new hi-res MRI devices show microbleeds all over the brain of most people, and that these break the blood/brain barrier in those areas, and it gives a very simple mechanism for the virus to get into the brain (even if it doesn't just travel up the neurons themselves).

    Why are people focusing on the plaques and the tangles? We have a virus here that lives inside of neurons, which has been found and strongly correlated with the disease.

    There are other classes of herpes virus which have similarly been implicated in brain cancer. This should be a big fat red X marks the spot. But most researchers are too specialized.

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