Teen Discovers Plastic-Decomposing Bacteria 209
ganelo writes to tell us that 16-year-old Waterloo Collegiate Institute student Danel Burd has made quite a stir with his plastic-eating bacteria discovery. For his efforts Burd won top prize at a Canada-wide science fair claiming a $10,000 prize and a $20,000 scholarship. "Tests to identify the strains found strain two was Sphingomonas bacteria and the helper was Pseudomonas. A researcher in Ireland has found Pseudomonas is capable of degrading polystyrene, but as far as Burd and his teacher Mark Menhennet know -- and they've looked -- Burd's research on polyethelene plastic bags is a first."
Well, Ma'am.. (Score:4, Funny)
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Well, the US patent process certainly hasn't stopped anyone from patenting the human genome [nationalgeographic.com].
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But that's just me.
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Did you mean this, where a bacteria created to eat oil spills ate the world's petrochemical supply? The book with the mountain-mounted railgun?
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Finally, different species of bacteria can share genetic material (DNA plasmids) through a type of "mating" called conjugation, allowing species to trade traits with other species.
Any mutations that makes them more efficient reproducers and better able to create energy from their environment is likely to ensure survival and ability to out-reproduce their peers.
Through these various methods, you should get a fairly high rate of mutation. Adding radiation may actually be detrimental to the overall success of the intent. Mutations tend to be detrimental, so if you increase the rate too much, you end up killing them off too fast. You also increase the risk of killing off the small populations with the new positive mutations you want, before they have a chance to spread.
It wouldn't surprise me if you went digging through a bunch of dumps that have been covered up years ago, to find bacteria that have evolved to eat some of that garbage. I suspect that the time required for our garbage to decompose is actually lower than we predict since we don't really factor in the possibility of bacterial mutations which can make them good consumers of the garbage. I suspect these mutations will happen in far less time than the natural decomposition period of the materials in question.
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The fact that actual studies of landfills indicate exactly the opposite notwithstanding...
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There are studies? Cool. Can you point some out? Google seems to be returning a bunch of results that appear to lean towards supporting my position, so I'd be happy to see some examples that contradict it. Thanks
It's just plain old good news (Score:2)
What isn't getting much notice is the fact that this story is just really good news: it turns out that plastic bags biodegrade through bacterial action just like wood or paper. Where are the cheers?
Wood and paper don't liquify overn
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in related news (Score:5, Funny)
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Is it different in the USA?
Only when out of money ... (Score:2)
This plastic (and pretty cheap) table has served me long in my house..
Now it's in the way of everything, standing against the wall, maybe those bacteria would have been the solution for a long time to a more classy lifestyle
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Well, they've charged for bags ever since I've been going (in China). Seems like it might be something new to the US.
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Marks and Spencers do the same in the UK. They charge a few pence for the carrier bag and it's already stopped me getting bags from them. It's a little ironic that I struggle down the street with packets of food under my arm to save a few pence, when I end up spending a few quid more just because I've gone to such an expensive supermarket.
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Because of the financial cost.
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Ikea furniture self-destructs in far less than 2 years to begin with.
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I jest, and I know its a horrible, body damaging and many times unsuccessful treatment.
I should have said something along the lines of "It ate whatever was keeping the FDA going?", but that's too much of a stretch.
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Damn, and probably with a cute enviro-chick too.
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1. Choose an area of current scientific research (bacterial polymer degradation)
2. Do some basic experimentation on improvement with the limited means he has available
3. Compare results to existing scientific publications.
4. Get a local newspaper to blow the achievement out of proportion.
I can understand a local Daily wanting to celebrate school science award winners, but this is Slashdot. Unless he shows us how to build a plastic-bag-reactor as a continuous power supply for a server,
It's both of the above (Score:3, Informative)
The idea is not to have a plastic-decomposing machine. The problem to be solved is how to deal with plastic that gets buried in a landfill. Even though many people today do a conscious effort to recycle, it's still not enough, there will always be some plastic in the garbage.
With this invention, you just spray the surface with water containing the bacteria, it seeps in and decomposes the old buried plastic, and then the landfill place can b
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Mutant 59 (Score:4, Funny)
Ringworld Civilization Collapse Explained (Score:2)
I'd go with "Ringworld Civilization Collapse Explained", http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringworld [wikipedia.org].
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But is it a good thing? (Score:5, Interesting)
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No cigar.. (Score:2)
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Re:But is it a good thing? (Score:5, Informative)
The above is true, and rise in temperatures caused from CO2 are ALSO true.
That is why once you start increasing CO2 levels, it gets warmer FASTER because it triggers even more CO2 to be created, and all of it causes more warming.
Get with the program people. This is science not politics.
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Get with the program people. This is science not politics.
Ummm do you really think those two areas are mutually exclusive? Any professor at any university can tell you that isn't true. Although it might only be the ones with tenure who would actually say it out loud.
And the general population isn't competent to judge whether any particular thing being presented as science is actually science and if so whether it is "good" science or "bad" science.
When the UN committee on climate change says "there
"Human-aggravated" might be more accurate (Score:3, Interesting)
NO ONE can deny that C02 is a greenhouse gas. The discussion should therefore be "how much is our CO2 output affecting global climate?" Instead the argument ends up being a battle between people claiming it is a "wildly extrapolated
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Nonsense, the main problem is that popular media doesn't think science is interesting enough to sell papers, and hence they "spice it up a bit" by giving attention to doomsayers and conspiracy theorists.
I would argue that the following is pretty much known:
a)We emit a lot of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere
b)If we continue
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Re:But is it a good thing? (Score:5, Insightful)
This is a simple laboratory experiment that anyone can do. Heck, they did it on MythBusters.
And yes, it's true that natural processes put out a lot more CO2 than humans do. That's not the point. Natural processes are more or less balanced; what nature puts out, nature absorbs. What we are doing is upsetting the balance so that there isn't enough capacity. One of Dicken's characters said "Annual income 20 pounds, annual expenditure 19 six, result happiness. Annual income 20 pounds, annual expenditure 20 pounds ought and six, result misery." - his point was that all you need to do is live just a little beyond your means to cause big problems.
Heck, it doesn't even matter if we _are_ the main cause or not. If we're not the main cause, we're still contributing to the problem at least a bit. Personally, I'd rather be the cause - it would imply that we could fix it.
Re:But is it a good thing? (Score:4, Informative)
That is a rather large assumption and probably untrue, e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Age [wikipedia.org], http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun#Life_cycle [wikipedia.org] etc etc etc.
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That presumes that putting CO2 into the atmosphere does something bad. Which it does not. (Rises in temperature CAUSE a rise in CO2. CO2 is dissolved in the oceans. When the temperature rises, water evaporates, and CO2 is released. Graphs show CO2 actually rises directly after an increase in temperature not before.)
Riiiight, and the water levels for the oceans isn't rising due to things like the polar ice caps melting.....
Maybe your theory would make sense if there were less liquid water in the oceans as the temperature of the world increases. However, what we are experiencing is the opposite.
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But this seems even less politically correct to say, than that nuclear plants are more ecologically sound than coal plants, so I don't expect your post to be modded very high. Slashdot can be extremely PC.
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Ah, this story (Score:4, Insightful)
That and recycling plastics, obviously.
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The problem is - it's not clear where the components of the plastic are going after being 'eaten'. (There should be more coming out of the system than 'water and tiny levels of carbon dioxide'.) Nor did he measure the volume of the plastic remaining after being 'eaten', only it's weight and gross mechanical properties
That's pretty neat, kiddo... (Score:5, Interesting)
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But doesn't he own the process? Unless the rules stated that any experiments become the property of the organization running the fair, he is going to make $30K on top of whatever money he will be pulling out of this discovery in the future. If he doesn't squander it away on Xbox games and hookers he's set for life.
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If he doesn't squander it away on Xbox games and hookers he's set for life.
You've got it wrong. He's going to spend a lot of money on games and hookers. The rest he'll squander (with apologies to George Best [wikipedia.org]).
Bender's opinion (Score:2)
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Potential for heating (Score:2, Interesting)
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Next up: What he does the next $100,000 (Score:3, Insightful)
Simple answer (Score:2)
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Or he registers in an honours co-op degree program at his local university [uwaterloo.ca] and then his $20k, plus what he earns on co-op work placements, pays for his bachelors degree entirely.
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But I'm hardly surprised that these bacteria exists - considering that oil-eating bacteria already has been found!
The issue is otherwise at what rate they can consume plastics and which conditions that are required.
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As for unintended consequences, all I could think of was the Andromeda Strain as I read this topic
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Proof of evolution (Score:3, Interesting)
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And the code name for this bug is: (Score:4, Funny)
as if anybody hadn't thought of THAT one yet!
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Love those journalists (Score:4, Insightful)
but as far as Burd and his teacher Mark Menhennet know -- and they've looked
Yeah right, so googling 'biodegradation Sphingomonas polyethene OR polyethylene' doesn't return any hits in Canada.
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"Yeah right, so googling 'biodegradation Sphingomonas polyethene OR polyethylene' doesn't return any hits in Canada."
Second result is your post! http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=biodegradation+Sphingomonas+polyethene&btnG=Search [google.com]
Plastic with a Shelf Date (Score:2)
Laptop cases don't decompose right now. I hope I don't live long enough to see a time when they do.
Doomwatch (Score:3, Interesting)
Harlan Ellison (Score:2)
In Other News . . . (Score:2)
What about the bacteria-eating plastic? (Score:2)
The most common bacteria in hot tubs? Pseudomonas.
So... who wins that battle?
So plastic bags are biodegradable? (Score:2)
Seriously though... if there are natural bacteria that decompose both polystyrene and polyethylene... doesn't that just mean that the studies that showed that those materials would last for a really long time in landfills were just plain wrong, and that we should stop feeling guilty about throwing them away - as far as polluting t
Mutant 59: The plastic eater (Score:2)
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A poor alternative if you don't use the heat for power generation. Perhaps oil prices in Canada are so low they have to burn it to get rid of the surplus?