VR Study Says 40% of Us Are Paranoid 221
Roland Piquepaille writes "UK researchers have recently used virtual reality to check if people had paranoid thoughts when using public transportation. Their VR tube ride experiment revealed that 40% of the participants experienced exaggerated fears about threats from others. Until now, researchers were relying on somewhat unreliable questionnaires to study paranoid thoughts which are often triggered by ambiguous events such as someone laughing behind their back. With the use of VR, psychiatrists and psychologists have a new tool which can reliably recreate social interactions. As the lead researcher said, VR 'is a uniquely powerful method to detect those liable to misinterpret other people.'."
Sounds dangerous.... (Score:5, Insightful)
That would explain a lot of the stupidity going on with terrorism and other tools uses to manipulate the public.
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They say "exaggerated fears of threats from others"
Personally I'm paranoid that every time I go out in public some passerby is going to cough on me and give me a cold. I know that this is illogical as the more viruses I'm exposed to the better my immune system will be at fighting them off and the less colds I will get, yet I still hate getting sick *so* much due to the added stress imposed that I will go out of my way to avoid putt
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On the further perils of nature (Score:2, Funny)
Whenever we go hiking, I'm always the only one the mosquitoes target for a blood meal. Also, since it's the females that bite, that just reinforces my paranoia that all female are out to get me.
I'm also still paranoid about my inevitable alien abduction and anal probing (Ouch! Maybe they work for the IRS...)
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Quite true. There is no "top" to the circle that is the food chain. Bacteria and viruses take down plenty of people every day. Being careful of what you eat, drink, breathe, and basic hygiene like washing you hands, might be smart not paranoid.
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Young teen that has been sheltered? they are invincible and dont have a care in the world.
Teen girl that has been raped twice before 16? she's paranoid of every male she meets.
Adult that has over the past 20 years had things stolen, homes and cars broken into, robbed, etc.. Then your become more paranoid. To the point that I noticed that only people over 30 want security cameras and recorders in their homes, younger than 30 do not typically. as they get o
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Why don't we put on the paranoia pants and walk down that path, huh?
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It's even worse with cellphone use in public.
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The most paranoid I've ever been was on my first train ride in Japan and there was a lovely young lady. 20ish, who got on a few stations before Tokyo and stood by the doors and who had on a most amazing dress that wasn't held up and on by anything that I could detect. I was so afraid it was going to fall down and damage my prudish USian eyes
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Re:Sounds dangerous....but bogus (Score:5, Insightful)
But in a an actual ride on the tube, you would be thinking about something else -- you wouldn't be watching all the people, trying to figure out what is going on, as you would during some VR lab test...
Re:Sounds dangerous....but bogus (Score:4, Funny)
But in a an actual ride on the tube, you would be thinking about something else
Perhaps velociraptors [xkcd.com]? In that case at least there are some [mbeckler.org] solutions [xkcd.com].
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I have to wonder how they accounted for the Uncanny Valley. [slate.com]
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What I don't get though, is why they needed VR for this. Couldn't they just have placed 80 people in a crowded room or tube carriage where 10 are real test persons and the other 70 are actors and monitors? (monitor as in, monitoring the behaviour of the test subjects, not a TFT or CRT screen
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The Sky Is Falling (Score:3, Insightful)
Witness that, lacking both better things to do and the ethics to do better things, our American news media plays up every negative incident as OMG the sky is falling, run for your lives!! Consequently, ask the average American (or any of our detractors) whether they think violent crime is out of control in the U.S., and they will uniformly declare that it is -- despite that the *actual* incide
Going to be used against us (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Going to be used against us (Score:5, Funny)
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They are EVERYWHERE!! Cooking in their basements, garages, bathtubs, kitchen sink (YES!! Even the kitchen sink!!), pots and pans, the flowerpots!!
Now days, if you go anywhere, do anything, or touch anything...*cue sinister music* You may be consorting with terrorists or meth cookers!!!
'Holy Guano, Batman...Look at all of those lights shining on those weeds!'
'Yes Robin, we have fal
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Going to be used against him (Score:2, Funny)
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Perscribe certain drugs to people that are paranoid or have paranoid tendencies.
Uh, maybe I'm just paranoid (Score:2)
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Hit the Nail on the Head! Too succint? (Score:3, Interesting)
1. We have established ourselves at the top of the food chain on land.
2. Competition of the same species has resulted into numerous conflicts on Earth. Geographical and climate differences seem to back up sociological diff's, thus establishing a basis for conflict: after all, who wants to be wrong?
3. No threat groups: company picnic, or similar like a LUG.
You may not know all of the people there, but they all seem to fall int
wrong much? (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:wrong much? (Score:5, Funny)
I'll choose the halfway option: it's paranormal.
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But maybe I'm a sociopath and didn't know it.
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-does not evolutionarily include random strangers, and on those rare occasions when it did, they were to be distrusted until they demonstrated their worth. One method of showing distrust is act as thought you are deliberately ignoring someone.
Re:wrong much? (Score:5, Funny)
You're a cat, aren't you? Come on, 'fess up.
Hey everybody, there's a cat posting on Slashdot! I thought only dogs were able to post anonymously on the Internet.
(And another proof you are a cat: you misspelled "paranoia". It is well known that cats can't spell. I've seen Lolcats. I'm not fooled.)
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I've never considered myself paranoid but I always find myself thinking ahead. I identify risks and think of how I can mitigate them or react to them. If someone bumps into me, I'm checking my wallet. I try to keep awareness of my surroundings, and I don't understand how people can blissfully enter a state of complete oblivion with Ipod's and th
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Paranoid? (Score:2)
Calm (Score:2)
I'm paranoid, so that means I have nothing to worry about!
No wait, now I'm not
Better, better
Somewhat unreliable (Score:4, Funny)
I like links better personally (Score:2, Funny)
Pollster: Mind if I ask you some questions?
Person: Sure.
Pollster: Do you like sausage?
Person: Yeah, it's good.
Pollster: Patty or link?
Person: Patty please, something bothers me when it's in the casing of-
Pollster: Are you afraid I'm going to kill you?
Person: I... what? Are you?
Pollster: Thank you for your time.
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Just because you're not paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you - Kurt Cobain
Uncanny valley? (Score:4, Informative)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_Valley [wikipedia.org]
Not paranoid in public (Score:2)
This is nothing less than Jeff Cooper's Color Code [wikipedia.org] in action.
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Huh? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Huh? (Score:5, Funny)
Wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey (Score:2)
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Wayoff: Eric Blair was British (Score:2, Insightful)
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What's the context? (Score:5, Interesting)
Secondly, put this in context of the location used for the experiment. A VR reproduction of the London underground? A place where you're crowded by people, a place which in all honesty does have a reputation for being a haven for pickpockets (whether that's deserved or not I don't know), and oh yes, one other thing - the site of the last major (successful) terrorist attack on Britain. Gee, do you think any of this might make people a little more wary when put into that environment for an experiment?
Some of this is addressed in TFA of course, but it doesn't correspond to the sensational headlines this peice has been getting in tabloids and on the Internet. Being somewhat cautious in that particular situation is a world away from the headlines implicating that 40% of us are clinically paranoid all the time.
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Being somewhat cautious in that particular situation is a world away from the headlines implicating that 40% of us are clinically paranoid all the time.
People are afraid of things they are not familiar with.
TFA even states that people who regularly rode the tube (in other words, were more familiar with the environment) experienced less "paranoid" thoughts. I wonder what would have happened if they ran the same experiment, but primed all the high anxiety people with calming thoughts. Would that 40% figure decrease?
Don't get things twisted because the study uses the word "paranoid".
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The problem I see with this methodology is that it may be detecting which people are able to play the game, and which people don't have enough imagination to do it. Maybe in a similar *real* situation 100% of people would have paranoid thoughts, while in a VR situati
Those people aren't paranoid (Score:2)
The remaining 60% (Score:4, Funny)
Patenting new business plan... (Score:5, Funny)
2- ?????
3- 40% Profit!
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Appearances are meaningless (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't get cautious around most white people. Being a US academic I'm surrounded by them. They are my friends and colleagues. However, in every city I've lived in except Los Angeles, I have had whites yell "nigger" at me as they drive by in cars. In three places spanning a dozen years, drunken young white male students have challenged me to fight (tried to provoke an excuse to beat me); so far, I open my mouth, they see I'm intelligent, and they go away.
These white men look like any thousands of white men I've seen all my life. Appearances count, in my case, for absolutely nothing.
I wonder, how may times have you been accosted by a black, gangbanger lookalike or otherwise?
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That said don't fall into the trap that you can identify a criminal by appearance. Con-men, pickpockets and the like are successful by blending i
Re:Appearances are meaningless (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm curious, if sounding intelligent doesn't get you out of one of these situations, what other options do you have at your disposal? Do you or would you consider carrying a firearm? Have you done any martial arts or self-defence training?
A counterpoint to your question, though: The first site I could find [canadafreepress.com] that didn't look like a hatespeech outlet still suggests that black-on-white gang violence, US-wide, is approximately 8 times more prevalent than white-on black, in a country with 6 times as many whites as blacks. If you have any other numbers I'd like to see them.
I'm not excusing anyone's behaviour here, and I admire your restraint in dealing with the fuckwits you've encountered thus far. There are obviously heavy social, cultural, historic, economic and legal factors in the equation, and the above is just one type of crime out of many. I assume there are also rampant reporting discrepancies - yelling "nigger" at someone is a crime pretty much anywhere with hatespeech laws, but I doubt it gets reported or enforced frequently, if ever.
Your thoughts?
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I assume there are few black people who drive around and yell "nigger" at random black strangers, but I would classify that as offensive as well.
Re:Not all fear is paranoia (Score:4, Insightful)
People dressed in thug clothing are making an effort to associate themselves with a culture of violence. Therefore, the way they look tells you something about their mindset and values.
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There is also no downside to avoidance, That's also why actions like "white flight" from areas into which blacks buy are logical When it is observable that neighborhoods with a certain demographic are of a certain character, one may choose where to live taking this into account.
USed to live in north of Paris in my youth (Score:2)
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Err... Uncanny Valley effect? (Score:5, Informative)
It's a *virtual reality* subway ride. The other passengers are AI.
People who will feel perfectly normal taking a subway ride with human beings who occasionally meet your gaze or smile, or even talk to themselves.. will be royally spooked if you replace those human passengers with Uncanny Valley [wikipedia.org] inhabitants: not human enough to fool you, but human enough to seem like an animated corpse.
The article completely ignores this effect. It could be useful research -- one can find out useful information about people with the ability to put different people in identical situations -- but it's absolute nonsense to say "wow, 40% of people have paranoid thoughts on a simple subway ride". Go figure, but virtual reality and reality are not, in fact, the same.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7322951.stm [bbc.co.uk]
I'm surprised it wasn't higher than 40%, actually....
On the flip side..... (Score:2)
Its healthy to be a bit paranoid when using public transportation as it is probably creates a safer environment.
Imagine the criminal mentality increasing the crime rate if their was no paranoia and resulting actions in effect.
Well, duh. (Score:4, Insightful)
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Misused term... (Score:4, Insightful)
The study mentions "exaggerated fears" of the threats from others. Sure, it pays to be a bit overly-cautious with strangers on public transportation. That doesn't translate into "extreme, irrational, psychotic, they're-all-out-to-get-me" paranoia... I think "mistrust" is a far more accurate term.
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Don't got the same ring.
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Paranoia literally means that your mental universe is differs significantly from established reality. Para == beyond / noos == mind. Real paranoia is like living in a parallel dimension with bridges to reality so one can relate to others.
It is not an "exceptional case of nerves," as described in this article. Given all the "terror alerts" western governments have been issuing lately, that's (fnord) just (fnord) to be (fnord) expected.
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Toro
Hmmm... sounds familiar... (Score:2)
40% sounds too low (Score:2)
Heck, I can't even wear two earphones at the same time because I'm responsible for the security of the family home. That kinda sucks for being able to listen to music at night, but seems pretty sensible really. Humans are built to be paranoid and protective of th
Feminization of man. (Score:3, Insightful)
Remember... (Score:2)
UK Public Transportation (Score:3, Interesting)
Didn't they have a few bombs go off not long ago? Paranoia? I think not.
Where I live, public transportation is the domain of the lower socio-economic classes (as opposed to places like London, New York, etc. where its use is more widespread). Our fear is of the (sadly common) incidence of transit riders off their meds.
Don't mistake the symptoms for the disease (Score:3, Insightful)
UK 'unsafe, dirty and anti-family'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/2980028.stm [bbc.co.uk]
I don't even live there and I think the same
Paranoia, or Denial: Pick One (Score:2)
WHY IS THS STUDY WATCHING ME!?!? (Score:3, Funny)
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In other news (Score:2)
If you aren't paranoid, you are a retard (Score:2)
If the number is really 40%... (Score:2)
In other words (Score:2)
It seems to me to be a straight forward evolutionary development, right? Animals which are insufficiently alert get eaten, while there is no penalty for being "too" alert.
This is from the Uber Nanny State (Score:3, Insightful)
april fools... (Score:3, Informative)
CBT? (Score:2)
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