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India and US to Cooperate in Space Exploration 153

p1234 writes "India and the US plan to cooperate in the exploration and use of outer space. India's first mission to the moon, Chandrayaan-1, is scheduled to be launched later this year. This is the culmination of long-term planning on both sides of the Atlantic. Apart from India's moon mission, Nair said a probe of Mars by India was very much on the agenda.'Our scientific community would like to see what new things we can find. It is not just for the sake of sending a probe to Mars. Yes, we have an agenda by 2012, by then we should have a Mars mission.'"
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India and US to Cooperate in Space Exploration

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  • Re:mutual benefit? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Tablizer ( 95088 ) on Saturday February 02, 2008 @09:34PM (#22278230) Journal
    and we can use cheap engineers.

    You must not be a US engineer.
  • by miletus ( 552448 ) on Saturday February 02, 2008 @09:45PM (#22278330)
    Like the previous deals on nuclear power, this is an attempt to bribe India away from getting too friendly with China and Iran, and buying U.S. arms instead of Russian. Science has nothing to do with it.
  • by Joaz Banbeck ( 1105839 ) on Saturday February 02, 2008 @10:03PM (#22278482)
    No, we are cooperating with the Indians because they are the natural opponents of two of our probable future oppoenents: China and Pakistan. Pakistan is most likely to be the source of an islamic nuclear bomb, and China is on track to become a true superpower to contest the US like Russia did in the 60s, 70s, and 80s.
    This is Machiavellian geopolitics. Having a friend on the Asian continent will be useful much like having Israel for a friend in the Mid-east.
  • Jokes (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Teun ( 17872 ) on Saturday February 02, 2008 @10:07PM (#22278512) Homepage
    I see several jokes about cheap engineers or bad education, the scariest example of the latter is probably the statement in the summary about 'both sides of the Atlantic'.
    It really makes me wonder where India borders the Atlantic...

    A likely indication the summary was done with some US-style geography classes :)
  • Re:GOD DAMNIT (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Tablizer ( 95088 ) on Saturday February 02, 2008 @10:31PM (#22278672) Journal
    Stop being a racist! You ass hole!

    I think the anti-offshoring sentiment is more an anti-corporation movement than an anti-Indian movement. I've seen in detail how corporate lobbyists manipulate the facts to create a "shortage". The bad guys are really the corporate lobbyists who hype free-trade and bribe politicians with campaign donations. We are not a democracy if lobbyists control politicians to such a degree.
  • by The One and Only ( 691315 ) * <[ten.hclewlihp] [ta] [lihp]> on Saturday February 02, 2008 @10:41PM (#22278724) Homepage
    I don't think Iran's in any position to bribe India at the moment.
  • by ScrewMaster ( 602015 ) on Saturday February 02, 2008 @10:49PM (#22278786)
    who gives a shit when we can waste billions on exploring space?

    Do you have any idea what you talking about, what the value of near-Earth space efforts have been? Billions upon billions in economic returns (hell, weather monitoring alone is worth the price of admission.) Space research is hardly wasted. Could all of us do better at managing our world? Sure. But shutting down space programs isn't the way to do that.
  • Re:mutual benefit? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by protobion ( 870000 ) on Saturday February 02, 2008 @11:36PM (#22279136) Homepage
    I propose a different perspective. Have any of you actually thought, that all instances of cooperation of the US with China or India may not necessarily involve the other two countries supplying the "cheap labour". If you RTFA, NASA is actually providing 11 instruments to be on board the moon vehicle. No doubt , it will provide its knowledgebase as well. ISRO and NASA have a long history of co-operation.

    Satellites are not launched everyday, moon missions still more infrequently. The usual way to obtain access to space for whatever reasons is often to provide some payload to a party who's going to launch a vehicle anyway. Not too long ago, India launched a military satellite for Israel. What India is providing here, is the excellent satellite launching infrastructure it has due to an active space program. The US space program was always geared towards manned-missions.

    Let me end this rant by saying that developments in all fields do not have to reflect the trends in IT (where India does provide a cheap back-office). It's time people got off the idea that the US always provides the money, the knowledge, while other countries are sources of cheap brainless workers. Appreciate the achievements of others.

  • by jmdc ( 1152611 ) on Sunday February 03, 2008 @12:21AM (#22279432)
    Um ... India's not on a side of the Atlantic.
  • by Jah-Wren Ryel ( 80510 ) on Sunday February 03, 2008 @12:37AM (#22279530)

    Having a friend on the Asian continent will be useful much like having Israel for a friend in the Mid-east.
    Gee, I sure hope not.
  • by sunilarjun ( 1232258 ) on Sunday February 03, 2008 @01:40AM (#22279864)
    Sad to see the types of comments posted here---remuind me of blue collar miners etc...who would talk of "college educated" guys in the same way---because they were scared their way of living is being disrupted. If you're getting your butt kicked by India and China, learn to innovate---that's what America stands for---I don't hear Bill Gates or Steve Jobs whining like the pathetic folks here.
  • by Nemilar ( 173603 ) on Sunday February 03, 2008 @04:26AM (#22280540) Homepage
    Pakistan is most likely to be the source of an islamic nuclear bomb,

    They are islamic and they do have a bomb already.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 03, 2008 @05:06AM (#22280680)

    As per BBC, 80% of the Indians live on 20 rupees (25p) a day. []
    And that matters how?

    20.00 INR = 0.511247 USD as per []
    20? My that's different from a few years ago. Has your currency fallen to half its value in comparison to ours in such a short time? Huh. I know you got screwed with Bush and all but damn, some of that rise is our doing.

    And do NOT expect a civilized society in India...
    I'm sorry for you. Your ignorance is astounding. I apologise if you've experienced the hillbilly backward-ass Bihar or UP but if you're talking anywhere else, dude wtf? Glass houses eh. All these people, presumably Americans talking about 'bad education' and all, lol wut? Our education system is tough and the students are too. From experience I can tell you that almost any developed country Indians go to, they have a much easier time keeping up. Our idiots are your 'average'. Ultimate was when I was watching 'Beauty and the geek' the grad level questions that they asked? It's the same level as our high school.
  • by amorsen ( 7485 ) <> on Sunday February 03, 2008 @12:55PM (#22282812)

    11% is more than enough.
    Better than the US though, where the militant religious party has been known to get around 50% of the popular vote.

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