Scientists Build Possibly The First Man-Made Genome 264
hackingbear writes "Wired is reporting that researchers have created the longest synthetic genome to date by threading together four long strands of DNA. 'Leading synthetic biologists said with the new work, published Thursday in the journal Science, the first synthetic life could be just months away — if it hasn't been created already. [...] The ability to synthesize longer DNA strands for less money parallels the history of genetic sequencing, where the price of sequencing a human genome has dropped from hundreds of millions of dollars to about $10,000. Just a few years ago, synthesizing a piece of DNA with 5,000 rungs in its helix, known as base-pairs, was impossible. Venter's new synthetic genome is 582,000 base-pairs.' As a programmer, I'm most excited by the possibility of a new platform and the programming jobs that will be created by it."
Thanks for the SuperFlu, Craig! (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Thanks for the SuperFlu, Craig! (Score:5, Insightful)
Ewww! (Score:5, Funny)
As a regular guy, I am NOT excited by the thought of thousands of fat, greasy programmers drooling over a test tube and a well worn copy of "Weird Science."
As my friend Han was so fond of saying, "I've got a bad feeling about this."
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As my friend Han was so fond of saying, "I've got a bad feeling about this."
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talk about redundant!
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As a programmer, I can assure you that the first code implemented this platform that says "Hello World!" is going to excite you witless.
Namgge
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Guess you think concealed-carry licenses are a bad idea too.
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Re:Thanks for the SuperFlu, Craig! (Score:4, Funny)
Of course not because we'd all be dead by now.
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It's about an hour long. It's both intriguing and a little scary at the same time. It gives a good example of just how far things have come and where they're potentially headed.
The benefits and cons are both obvious.
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Restricting access may not be the *only* answer, but it is most assuredly *one* of them.
Whether or not you think it actually works (and it's a myth that access restrictions always don't work - plenty of things are restricted that you really can't get, like, say, an MX missile), that's no reason not to do it. There are things you do because they should be done, regardless of how effective they are.
There may be *other* things that can be
Re:Thanks for the SuperFlu, Craig! (Score:4, Interesting)
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So a car or a backpack could be very good delivery devices for small enough nukes. You don't even need to be suicidal, you can just leave one somewhere. And suicidal people are not that rare; they weren't even before the current
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Re:Thanks for the SuperFlu, Craig! (Score:4, Informative)
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I do. I see nothing wrong with protection of life and property, but you don't need a concealed gun to do that.
Basically they should outlaw any gun under five feet long. And bullets should be ridiculously priced, like $10k or something (although every 5ft or longer gun would come with one free bullet). That keeps the right for self defence but gets rid of the morons shooting at each other for fun.
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Basically they should outlaw any gun under five feet long. And bullets should be ridiculously priced, like $10k or something (although every 5ft or longer gun would come with one free bullet). That keeps the right for self defence but gets rid of the morons shooting at each other for fun.
Open carry then? (Score:2)
Well, you don't if open carry is allowed, I guess. There are, of course, many examples of people who actually have protected life and property with a concealed gun.
Basically they should outlaw any gun under five feet long. And bullets should be ridiculously priced, like $10k or something (although every 5ft or longer gun would come with one free bullet). That keeps the right for self defence
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Basically they should outlaw any gun under five feet long. And bullets should be ridiculously priced, like $10k or something (although every 5ft or longer gun would come with one free bullet). That keeps the right for self defence but gets rid of the morons shooting at each other for fun.
And all the criminals would carry sawed off weapons and go around mugging people for their ammo. Forget the wallet, the bullets are worth way more. It's these sort of poorly thought out ideas that cause problems. You have to consider all implications of decisions you make. Bear in mind that no matter what you decide to do, there will be people out there looking to see how they can exploit it to their ends, including getting around restrictions, and more importantly, making a profit off said restrictions. I
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Re:Thanks for the SuperFlu, Craig! (Score:5, Insightful)
So far, all that's happened is some assorted earthtone sludge.
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Re:Thanks for the SuperFlu, Craig! (Score:4, Insightful)
We are the grey goo. The plants and the bacteria had a good go at spreading all over Earth, but we spread further and faster than any previous life. The "grey goo scenario" is limited by the assumption that energy is abundant, and indeed energy (food) shortages are all that stops us covering every inch of the world.
I, for one, welcome my fellow grey goo overlords.
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But, but... (Score:4, Funny)
But Jesus, and the Bible!
Re:But, but... (Score:5, Funny)
We'll be able to genetically replicate those soon too
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Like when they got all excited because someone claimed to find Christs body and I'm like "Dude, that's proof your religion is based on nothing."
OTOH, these same people thinks Christs birth is the important part.
It's called transubstantiation. (Score:5, Funny)
Acquire a Catholic who has just taken communion and induce him to vomit, thereby producing a viable sample of body and blood.
Who says science and faith aren't compatible?
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Not sure about how the other 5/6 of the world's population would think about it, though.
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Venter-zenji replied "Mu."
Impossible? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Impossible? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Impossible? (Score:5, Funny)
I have my own theory; so many things in this world annoy me that they couldn't have happened by random chance. Instead they are proof of some supreme cosmic being who shaped the world just to piss me off.
I call my theory Belligerent Design. (with all credit to Lore Sjoberg for that joke).
I used to be a paranoid... (Score:2)
Whenever I think somebody, anyone, not just supreme cosmic beings, is trying to piss me off, I think: am I really that important? Why, exactly, would anyone make an effort to piss me off? Nah, probably just a coincidence.
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WTF? you did something so awesome, God himself took an interest in you AND made your children suffer?
Meh. I'll stick to being an Atheist. God never punishes me, the Devil never tempts me, and I get to do good deeds just because they are good.
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Like those egomaniacs that think "My children are deformed, God must be punishing me." WTF? you did something so awesome, God himself took an interest in you AND made your children suffer?
If, for the sake of argument, you accept the premise of an omnipotent God, he may actually be able to pay attention to each and every one of us, and not just the "most important ones".
Meh. I'll stick to being an Atheist. God never punishes me, the Devil never tempts me, and I get to do good deeds just because they are good.
How does an atheist define "good"?
Regarding the actual article, consider these 2 sayings: "Knowledge is power", "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely". I love science, but sometimes the power that is being put into fallible, corruptible human hands really concerns me.
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It's not paranoia if they're really out to get you (Score:4, Funny)
Still, I can't help but wonder... is the entire universe against me? Or just the part where light has reached since my birth? Don't laugh; it's an important question.
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You are correct! (Score:2)
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Yet, somehow we've managed to have life on earth...
That is largely due to the technique by which we synthesize DNA in the laboratory. It's actually done using a series of chemical reactions rather than by utilizing the specialized enzymes found in cells. It's an extremely artificial process where the DNA strand is physically held on a microscopic bead, and as a result of the chemistry we use, it's actually more convenient to synthesize it backwards which makes it a slow and cumbersome process. In a cell, your natural DNA replication machinery are replic
The question that needs to be asked is (Score:3, Funny)
Up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! IT'S A NET!!!*
*My apologies for this horrendously bad joke
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Should I be happy... or scared (Score:2)
Or should I be afraid of the first "programmed virus" that can actually infect human beings?
I don't know. As usual, it seems to have two sides. What comes out of it is up to us, I guess. In other words, if I believed in God, I'd hope he has mercy with us.
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Program me a kudzu/marijuana hybrid. (Score:4, Funny)
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Also, Cannabis helps to create topsoil thanks to deep-penetrating roots that will break up rock and clay.
And hey, why do Cannabis growers bother to mess with the plant's genetics? For better results and yields, just like most other seed genetics companies do. Hardier, or faster gr
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Wonderful (Score:4, Insightful)
Geez. The LAST thing society needs is a bunch of synthesized clones running around with hacked up spaghetti code for genes.
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Though I donot usually draw a weiner when designing a FSM, its appendaged are pretty noodly.
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Kind of brings new meaning to Blue Screen of Death.
Windows Genome has detected an error in your base pairs and is now shutting down.
malware (Score:2)
At last! (Score:3, Funny)
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You think small (Score:2)
Yeah, I think I'll call it a "Chickapede"
No way. (Score:2)
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An omission (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:An omission (Score:4, Informative)
Analyses of M. genitalium suggest it may have orginally had methylation capabilities, but has lost them over time: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=206970&blobtype=pdf [nih.gov]
whatcouldpossiblygowrong? (Score:5, Funny)
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Things don't start off perfect, or even good. They get there by wading through the mistakes and learning from the garbage you see. When you lose, don't lose the lesson.
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You make a good point with the dangers that loom. You should read if you haven't "The Singularity Is Near" by Ray Kurzweil. It has some good ideas as to how to deal with this topic with nanotech and AI.
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Things don't start off perfect, or even good. They get there by wading through the mistakes and learning from the garbage you see. When you lose, don't lose the lesson.
He's about 5 stages later when things are made by morons using tools that employ canned templates. Then the moron screws with things so that it's designed for crap and just barely works, but if you change anything it collapses.
You want the genome version of that?
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Jan 3, 2018 Hot-fix 845-89459086290834 Repairs security issues with
Jan 4, 2018 Hot-fix 845-89459086290835
Hot-fix 845-89459086290836
Hot-fix 845-89459086290837
Now, instead of Hardware, Geneware Code gets (Score:2)
It used to be in the prehistoric computing days, engineers got paid by number of lines cranked out. Now, it looks like gene engineers will bask in that opportunity.
But, hopefully, they don't crank out shitty code. Or, well REALLY have "The First man-Made Gnome" (which is what I read at first...). This could be a different take on Project Genesis.
I for one, (Score:2)
Biology as the next Programming language (Score:2, Insightful)
Just because we CAN do something doesn't mean we SHOULD. Perhaps if we constructed a complete corpus of biological effects, and dependencies of all currently known sequences (yeah right, like we're go
Just because we CAN do something... (Score:2)
Just so long as you don't use the term..... (Score:2)
Procedural Abstraction (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Procedural Abstraction -- Prolog? (Score:3, Insightful)
Sounds to me like programming in Prolog.
For those who don't know... A Prolog program is a set of patterns and actions. When a pattern is "matched" it action occures. The set is unordered. A more modern and more widely used version of this is the language "Erlang". I think Erlang points to the way we wi
"As a programmer, I'm most excited by the (Score:2)
brings new meaning to the phrase "script kiddie"
Monster Debugging (Score:2, Insightful)
And who's going to debug all the billions of self-reproducing monsters you unleash into the world, pray tell?
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RAID!
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God has already developed some nice genetic debug tools for us: interspecies competition, predator-prey relationships, survival of the fittest, and all that.
When this programming work gets (Score:2)
And where, oh where, does a two-headed marmoset controlled domestic robot fall in Islamic law?
So 582k? (Score:4, Funny)
soon tv commercials (Score:2)
Third arm, I think not (Score:2)
I've been reading too much anon news... (Score:2)
I'm not (Score:2)
The thought of the average programmer hacking DNA is pretty scary.
job marketing! (Score:2)
Yes! This certainly isn't more far reaching or profound then a new job market and it's opportunities!
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Jesus and St Peter are playing golf. The 6th hole is nothing but water from the tee to the green.
St Peter says, "I'd use a five iron". Jesus says, "Arnold Palmer would use a 7 iron"; tees up and hits the ball right into the water. Jesus says, "Do Over?".
Again, St Peter says, "I'd use a five iron". Jesus says, "yes, but Arnold Palmer would use a 7 iron"; tees up and again hits the ball right into the water.
Jesus then walks out onto the water to retrieve is golf balls as the next party wal
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I had no idea.... Coins have DNA?