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ESA Selects Next Generation Space Missions 46

davecl writes "The European Space Agency has announced the results of its Cosmic Visions 2015-2025 call for proposals. Fifty space science missions for the next decade were proposed, with just seven selected. They range from X-ray and far-infrared observatories to planet finders and a near-earth asteroid sample return mission. These seven, together with the LISA gravitational wave observatory, will go ahead for further study in the next few years, and then two will be chosen for launch in 2015-2017."
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ESA Selects Next Generation Space Missions

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  • What? No space elevator?
    • by YA_Python_dev ( 885173 ) on Sunday October 21, 2007 @12:20PM (#21064133) Journal
      A short summary of the missions, all extremely interesting:
      • Laplace. To study the Jovian system (three orbiters, one entirely dedicated to Europa!) in collaboration with NASA.
      • Tandem. To study the Saturnian-Titanian-Enceladusian environment (orbiter+carrier with a balloon and 3 probes to Titan) in colaboration with NASA.
      • Marco Polo. Sample return mission from an asteroid (à la Hayabusa) with orbiter+lander, sampler and return capsule; in collaboration with JAXA.
      • Dune/SPACE. Two proposed missions to study dark matter and dark energy.
      • Plato. Extrasolar planets detector, capable of detecting rocky planets.
      • Spica. Infrared telescope with wide field of analysis, spectroscopy and coronograph; in collaboration with JAXA.
      • XEUS. X-ray telescope to study extreme environments from L2 halo orbit, consisting on a mirror satellite and a detector satellite flying in formation.
      • Cross-Scale. Proposed to employ 12 spacecraft, would make simultaneous measurements of plasma - the gas of charged particles surrounding Earth - on different scales at shocks, reconnection sites, and turbulent regions in near-Earth space.
      [thanks to eeergo from NSF for the short list]

      At least one of the first two (Laplace or Tandem) will almost certainly be selected, the second one approved will probably be an astronomy mission (i.e. observation of objects outside of the solar system).

      • It's interesting to see ESA proposing Galileo- or Cassini-type missions, given that NASA has rather missed the boat on those - they focussed on JIMO, which would have been a spectacular truly next-generation mission, but didn't have the political backing. Either mission would be a twenty-year commitment and cost several billion Euros, but the ESA is confident at the moment and the various 'Europe, centre of innovation' pushes by the EU will likely be able to find several billion Euros.

        I wouldn't be surpris
        • by davecl ( 233127 )
          I suspect that the gas giant missions will need significant international collaboration, like Cassini, anbd the climate in the US may be bad for that.

          My own horse in the race, SPICA, has the advantage of building on existing European technology, since the ESA contribution woulkd be a mirror similar to Herschel's. The instrument, that I'm associated with and that your friend is working on, would be finded separately by national funding agencies, as is always the way with ESA missions. It's already been defin
          • I hadn't realized ESA was thinking of supplying the mirror for SPICA; I did an arxiv search for SPICA, and aside from the occasional confounding reference to Alpha Virginis, there was a paper on surface quality of carbon fibre / silicon carbide mirrors which made me assume that JAXA was planning to build one such.

            [also a very nifty paper on coronographs using binary masks very close to the focal plane, which in principle masked out the star enough that you could almost detect Jupiters in reasonably distant
      • I wish there was a tag for these kinds of stories, so we can easily tell when it's interesting news as opposed to interesting (or not so interesting) debate fuel.
  • ...they rejected my mission to determine if the Xbox 360 still overheats in a vacuum. Darnit.
    • by tc1415 ( 1098727 )
      I have to say - you don't _really_ need a space mission for that, a suitably large bell jar would suffice. Come to think of it, I'd like to try that now...
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by jpflip ( 670957 )
      Air is pretty darn useful for carrying away heat by conduction and convection flows. So the XBox 360 should have more overheating problems in vacuum.

      Physicists can't resist this kind of question...
  • TEXT (Score:1, Redundant)

    by Eightyford ( 893696 )
    Astrophysics

    A dark energy mission
    Two proposals have been received (DUNE, the dark universe investigator and SPACE, the new near-infrared all-sky cosmic explorer) addressing the study of dark matter and dark energy - a hot topic in astronomy. While they propose to use different techniques (DUNE is proposed as a a wide-field imager, while SPACE is proposed as a near-infrared all-sky surveyor), they address the same basic science goal. In the follow-up study phase a trade-off will be performed leading to t
  • by g253 ( 855070 )
    Let me be the first to say : what about a manned mission to Mars? I don't care that it's more efficient and easy to send robots, I don't care that it would have little scientific justification, I want human beings to go there just because it would be mind-blowingly awesome!
    • That's what's wrong with space agencies of today; "mind-blowingly awesome" isn't accepted as a good reason to do something.
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        "mind-blowingly awesome" also loses out to the problem of: Can we get them there and back alive? If everyone dies, suddenly it become mind-blowingly stupid. We will see long term inhabited space stations with centrifugal gravity and greenhouses before we will be sending live humans on multi-year missions outside of Earth orbit.
    • by m0ns00n ( 943739 )
      It is very wierd indeed, that Europe, being a massive economy world wide, only can affort marginal space efforts. ESA should be at least as ambitious as NASA, but it is not. Could anyone give the reasons why Europe's space program is so low-fi compared to other organizations elsewhere? With Russia able to still have a competing program, one should have thought the EU would be more aggressive. One reason I was given previously is that Europe's dynamic, democratic nature disables some of the steering needed i
      • It is very wierd indeed, that Europe, being a massive economy world wide, only can affort marginal space efforts. ESA should be at least as ambitious as NASA, but it is not.

        For one, they are relatively new at it. NASA's been doing lots of missions for a long time. Europe has only been lightly dabbling so far.

        Second, is that they have more beurocracy because they want to make sure member countries get an equal share. It is sort of like the Osprey military project in the US where states all wanted a shake an
      • Europe is doing some big science projects though, the immense LHC is one such example. Thae US has no similar high-energy physics project that I'm aware of, in operation or in serious planning.
      • I think that in Europe, space exploration is seen as science expenditure, and not military expenditure (since 'Europe' as an entity has no military). There's a lot more competition and public scrutiny regarding where the money goes.

      • by j-b0y ( 449975 )
        All the big players have their own space agencies to fund too. If the NASA had to compete with the California Space Agency you bet they'd be flying less missions too.
    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      by Tablizer ( 95088 )
      Let me be the first to say : what about a manned mission to Mars? I don't care that it's more efficient and easy to send robots, I don't care that it would have little scientific justification, I want human beings to go there just because it would be mind-blowingly awesome!

      While cool, personally I get more satisfaction out of seeing new worlds. I was totally psyched when the Titan Huygens lander mission started posting photos on the internet. This was a new, cloudy world never before seen from under the c
    • by Herve5 ( 879674 )
      There are plans for Mars, collaborating with the US, but for reasons I won't detail they are not coordinated by the Science directorate in Esa, so they are out of this "Cosmic Vision".

      For Esa the Mars program is called Aurora, and the first coming mission is Exomars, planning to land in 10 years a relatively big rover (hundreds of kg) whose data relaying relies on US satellites. Later on, sample return is planned, in a clear collaboration still to be refined with Nasa which *possibly* would allocate precisi
    • by j-b0y ( 449975 )
      In fact a concept for a manned mission has been kicking around within the Aurora program. Target arrival date: 2037.

      No shortage of forward planning there, then.
  • I think one of the more interesting missions here is the visits to the Jovian System. Europa in particular may yeild the best results within our solar system for some sort of life beyond Earth. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_(moon) [wikipedia.org]
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by volcanopele ( 537152 )
      Yes, but neither Laplace nor NASA's proposed Europa Orbiter will answer the question of whether there is life on Europa. The upper few meters of Europa's surface have been effectively sterilized by particle radiation from Jupiter's magnetosphere, removing all trace of life that may have made its way to the surface. Most plausible life on Europa would likely be much deeper, within the internal ocean. To answer THE question WRT Europa would require a lander and probably a sub.
      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by PieSquared ( 867490 )
        I'm afraid it might take a bit more then that. Feasibility speaking landing a probe on europa isn't *that* difficult. Nothing to scoff at, but certainly within our limits. Automated drilling through the ice, though? And this is more then a few meters to find liquid water. How exactly do we *do* that? Then the sub. How do you power it? Not solar. Nuclear would make a big stink with environmentalists (bringing nuclear waste on your search for life!?) if you could even *get* a nuclear powered up that
        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          by evilviper ( 135110 )

          How do you power it? Not solar. Nuclear would make a big stink with environmentalists (bringing nuclear waste on your search for life!?) if you could even *get* a nuclear powered up that far (reactors aren't small...).

          This is an INCREDIBLY ignorant statement.

          Any and all probes designed to go out past Mars or so are powered by nuclear sources. Sunlight gets extremely weak the further you go, and Jupiter is a LONG way out there and solar panels simply won't work. They WILL BE NUCLEAR, no matter who wants to

          • by Luyseyal ( 3154 )
            Let me get this straight: You want to power a drill/submarine with RTGs? Can you explain how big these will need to be to produce the power to drill, excavate, dive, and transmit to an orbiter?

            -l
            • Can you explain how big these will need to be to produce the power to drill, excavate, dive, and transmit to an orbiter?

              There is no limit. It's just a trade-off of power vs. time. Use a 1W RTG and it'll simply take FOREVER to drill to any depth.

              At 620W+, Cassini's 3 (man-sized) RTGs should have more than enough power to do the job in a reasonable time-frame. What's more, if NASA's Sterling tech works, you're able to make them SRGs instead, and get 2,500W+ from the same-size/weight package. That's easily

            • If you have a good heat source, there is no need to drill through an ice layer.
              • by Luyseyal ( 3154 )
                That's awesome. Just tip over one of the RTGs, wait until it melts through the surface, dive in, Profit!
                -l
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by teebob21 ( 947095 )
      We may wish to rethink this mission:

      All these worlds are yours, except Europa. Attempt no landing there. Use them together. Use them in peace.
  • It's a shame that only two of the seven will be chosen for launch in 2015-2017 and not all seven (at least that's what I gathered).

    I'm not sure what's lacking the most, the number of people available to work on these or the funding required. Probably mostly the latter.

  • by Trapezium Artist ( 919330 ) on Sunday October 21, 2007 @04:54PM (#21066337)
    As someone closely associated with the selection process, let me add a little background that might be helpful to interested /.ers.

    1. In principle just two of these missions will proceed to flight in 2017-2018, following studies of all seven over the next couple of years. However, the important number is the 950Meuro budget envelope allocated for this round of Cosmic Vision: depending on how costs shape up during the study phase, we go for a different mix of missions. That number is the cost to ESA itself: you also need to factor in anticipated additional contributions (e.g. for payload) from ESA member states and third party countries (e.g. US, Japan, Russia, China).

    2. One poster suggested that either Laplace or Tandem was most likely to fly in one slot, with an astronomy mission in the other: this is in no way decided, at this point. We sent Laplace and Tandem through at this stage as NASA is looking closely at the same basic missions; indeed, for either to fly would require strong (majority) NASA partnership, as ambitious outer solar systems missions cost more like $2G, rather than the ~600-650Meuro ESA might put in. Following discussions and a selection process in the US, one or other of Laplace or Tandem will go through to the full European study stage. Then, in order to proceed to flight, we will need to decide whether we prefer that mission over XEUS or LISA for the 2017-2018 slot: they are the other L(arge)-missions selected for study.

    3. Dune and Space were similarly selected in the full knowledge that the US is planning a Dark Energy mission as well. Further talks with NASA on competition, collaboration, and complementarity in ths arena are very likely.

    4. Keep in mind that this is just the first round of Cosmic Vision: we anticipate a second selection round in 3 years or so, at which point other missions may be selected, perhaps from those of the seven here not finally picked for flight in the first round, perhaps from the 43 others which did not make it this far (some were felt to be extremely interesting, but not ready technologically for 2017-2018), or perhaps something new altogether.

    5. Finally, yes, we'd all like to have more money available to ESA to fund these and other exciting missions: we have plenty of interesting ideas. Europeans should think about writing to their parliamentary / governmental representatives about exactly this point. That said, it's not quite true to say, as someone did, that we're newbies in this game: ESA has been involved in a whole bunch of excellent astronomy and solar system missions already (Giotto, Rosetta, ISO, SOHO, XMM, Mars Express, HST, to name but a few), some alone, some in collaboration. There are more to come over the next few years as well (e.g. Herschel, Planck, Gaia, JWST), so watch this space (sorry).
    • by j-b0y ( 449975 )
      As someone watching the selection process with curiousity, one thing struck me; where's Darwin?

      It's interesting that Plato was selected (instead?). Clearly from a ESA perspective it's more in line with current thinking; reuse either the Herschel or Gaia bus and build on Corot. I imagine that the French delegation were pushing hard too. But ESA has invested quite a lot of time on the Darwin concept and I would have though that it would have made it at to at least the study phase.

      Was Darwin too far out on the

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