Implanted RFID Chips Linked To Cancer 247
An anonymous reader writes "The Associated Press is reporting that microchip implants have induced cancer in laboratory animals and dogs. A series of research articles spanning more than a decade found that mice and rats injected with glass-encapsulated RFID transponders developed malignant, fast-growing, lethal cancers in up to 1% to 10% of cases. The tumors originated in the tissue surrounding the microchips and often grew to completely surround the devices. To date, about 2,000 RFID devices have been implanted in humans worldwide, according to VeriChip Corp." We recently discussed the California ban on companies requiring such implants.
What about pets? (Score:4, Insightful)
Have these implants been causing cancer too?
Re:What about pets? (Score:4, Insightful)
Well, sorry Charlie... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:So what's the cause? (Score:3, Insightful)
Also no talk about... (Score:4, Insightful)
Lack of Science. (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Someone better tell Carrie from MythBusters (Score:5, Insightful)
Her health ought to be first priority. Her dreamaliciousness must come second. Er, . . .
Malignant vs non-malignant (benign) (Score:4, Insightful)
Now about tumor which removed, and suddenly become mortal (your second part). I call bullshit on that one. Some benign tumor might turn malignant with timem on their own, but not due to medicinal intervention as you seem to pretend. I can't also imagine a tumor left for many years and suddenly the doctor says "oh we need to take that out now, radio therapy and chemio !". I would say it is rather that the doctor detected that the tumor did go from benign to malignant and my guess is that since they knew he/she had a tumor for years most probably it is a skin tumor easy to detect and can be deadly if change are not detected quick enough (it happens. I had a naevus (big sort of mole 4 cm wide) which changed of texture when I was 13. Out of concern the oncologue ordered immediate chirurgy and a biopsy. From what I gathered it can happens that such a big mole with time turn malignant. Turn out that had to take a LOT of my left muscle out over 13 cm and more than 2 cm deep, but biopsy was negative. Relief ensured).
Bottom line : you are mixing up cause and effect. It was not the therapy which was caused your friend tumor to grow malignant, it was the tumor growing malignant which caused your friend go get a therapy which failed and he died.
PS: I say friend above, but it seems after rereading your post it was only an acquaintance , and thus the quality of the info your present is even doubly doubtful.
Re:No control group? WTF? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Serious question (Score:3, Insightful)
Up to? (Score:3, Insightful)
"up to" is the equivalent of "maximum". How can you have a range for a maximum value?
LS
Foreign object, with a coating... (Score:5, Insightful)
So, what we have here is a biologically active foreign object. This result is, unfortunately, not surprising.
So, will Citywatcher.com be laying off their data center workers as being 'at-risk' for higher future medical costs?
Re:What about pets? (Score:3, Insightful)
In 6000 chipped dogs the article would be predicting between 60 and 600 would develop "fast growing, lethal" cancers, at the site of the chip.
That would compete pretty well with the natural rate of cancer... surely vets would notice if every other case of canine or feline cancer they saw was a tumor in the same location.
You might be on to something -- a LOT of those rats they studied were probably bred to be susceptible to cancers. Perhaps a nice foreign body increases the chances that the cancer will develop in that location, like a hailstone forming around a dust particle.
Re:Normal activity for the body (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Someone better tell Carrie from MythBusters (Score:3, Insightful)
I saw her at Dragon-Con a couple of weeks ago
Re:Someone better tell Carrie from MythBusters (Score:2, Insightful)
Tell her what?
Some AP reporter who had to write a science article scared the beejeezuz out of you statistically challenged hypocondriacs?
RTFA, even it says that in surveying all the medical literature available, only two incidental reports of dogs with cancer associated with implants are found. There are a few million implanted dogs in this country! (It's been common practice at the vast majority of shelters to spay and implant for many years.) I asked my vet last year how many he has taken out - one was rejected out of hundreds he has done. He didn't mention cancer....
What about the mice? Mice seem to have a 10%, 4% or 1% cancer rate on chip implants (according to the article, which wasn't submitted to any scrutiny by anybody with a Phd, Masters or even a BS in biology from what I can tell.) Many simple causes haven't been investigated or at even discussed. (e.g. the chip may occupy 2-3% of the mouse' body mass, the same chip 0.1% of a dogs and 0.03% of a human (Carrie is petite after all.) Maybe there is a threshold where the immune system is overwhelmed. Get a grad student on it!
The article is poor science. Scare the old ladies with chipped dogs on Sunday morning (9/9) and get they're blood warming so they can do some more fear mongering on Tuesday.
Flack