Girl's Heart Regenerates With Artificial Assist 184
Socguy writes with news about a 15-year-old girl who has become the first Canadian to have an artificial heart removed after her own heart healed itself. "Doctors at the Stollery Children's hospital implanted the Berlin Heart, a portable mechanical device that keeps blood pumping in an ailing heart, so she could survive until a transplant became available. But over the next few months, Melissa's overall condition improved dramatically, and her heart muscle regained much of its strength. After 146 days on the Berlin Heart, Melissa underwent surgery to have the device removed."
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(dutchy here)
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Your kidney has a brain and a liver?
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Melissa Dorothy (Score:5, Funny)
Is that you, Cowardly Lion? (Score:1, Interesting)
In the books, the origins of the character are rather gruesome. Originally an ordinary man by the name of Nick Chopper, the Tin Woodman used to make his living chopping down trees in the forests of Oz. The Wicked Witch of the East enchanted his axe to prevent him from marrying the girl that he loved. The enchanted axe chopped off his limbs, one by one. Each time he lost a limb, Nick Chopper replaced it with a prosthetic limb made of tin. Finally, nothing was left of him but tin. However, the tinsmith who helped him neglected to give him a heart. Once Nick Chopper was made entirely of tin, he was no longer able to love the girl he had fallen for.
I was just kidding about before..you're not the Lion. I've seen Anonymous Coward since I first came here. Are you new to /.?
In his first appearance, the Scarecrow reveals that he lacks a brain and desires above all else to have one. --Wikipedia
Coincidence? Of course I couldn't forget who you are..You, Scarecrow [wizardofozcostumes.com], I shall miss most of all.
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I think that you are being a bit harsh there.
Survival figures vary - overall in the USA the five-year survival [americanheart.org] rate is 71.2 percent for males and 66.9 percent for females. Its better than that in some units. This person's survival after a transplant would be alot higher than this as young people do better on average than older recipiants.
Over 2/3 alive at 5 years, and actually pretty similar at 10 years - bearing in mind that most of bad outcomes are in the first year, and that this is all causes of death, including deaths that were unrelated to the transplant.
The main bad thing about heart transplants is not getting enough hearts.
Having said this, you will see a significant number of people who do not require transplantation due to spontaneous recovery of function.
They still require two major operations - the VAD insertion and the VAD removal - so its not exactly a walk in the park.
And the VAD's such as this can have quite significant complications. The are good but not necessarily the only solution.
Michael
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Over 2/3 alive at 5 years, and actually pretty similar at 10 years - bearing in mind that most of bad outcomes are in the first year, and that this is all causes of death, including deaths that were unrelated to the transplant.
I think you're missing the point here. A 15 year old living 10 more years would mean she dies at 25. Not what I would call a "long full life".
I have to agree with the grandparent, this looks very promising. I bet this clinical trial just got extended to a lot of other conditions. If they can generalize this to help hearts come back from a variety of heart problems at different ages we're talking about Nobel prize quality research.
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Actually, this sort of thing has happened multiple times, especially in younger patients, and has happened even when they got transplants.
The theory I heard is that by disconnecting the heart, but not removing it or the
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Granted, given her situation, she might have been dead in a year without a transplant, and 10 or 15 years is better than one. But transplants shouldn't be the final answer. Transplants should be more like asprin: a stop
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Furthermore, with a transplant, she would be required to take anti-rejection medication for life and would suffer many more illnesses as a result.
Compared to death or a short bedridden life, a transplant is a great option. However, where feasible, a temporary VAD and recovery of the original heart is much better.
There is a form of heart transplant where the new heart is connected in parallel with the original. The procedure is more complex but offers better survival should rejection occur. I'm not sure
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However, the mental issues with 'not having a pulse' were almost insurmountable. You are alive, yet you have no pulse. Also, you are used to a constant movement inside your chest--that was also hard to get adjusted too, if they did at all.
However, just as in this story the patient's heart just re-started itself. Happy end
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"Look: No pulse"
It's too bad I would be too ill to go to any interesting party...
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought human heart cells couldn't reproduce?
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The next challenge, according to Anversa, is to find the source of the dividing myoctyes. "Are these cells a sub-population of known cells that retain the capacity to divide, or are they multiplying cells that originate from stem cells present in the heart?" he asks.
"There are preliminary indications that primitive cells like stem cells exist in the human heart. Stem cells may have the ability to develop into the various cardiac cell types and form new healthy functioning myocardium. If we can prove the existence of cardiac stem cells and make these cells migrate to the region of tissue damage, we could conceivably improve the repair of damaged heart muscle and reduce heart failure," says Anversa.
Cardiac muscle cells, however, do not reproduce after a certain point: [hhmi.org]
Not all cells from multicellular organisms are still able to divide, though. Once the heart is full sized, the heart cells in a human body do not divide anymore. They no longer have that ability. When a person has a heart attack and some heart cells die, the heart is permanently damaged the heart can't just replace those dead cells.
According to Doris Taylor (Departments of Medicine and Surgery at Duke University Medical Center. She did post-doctoral work in cardiac (heart) molecular biology at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York.)
The heart cannot repair the damaged muscle because its muscle cells cannot reproduce, Doris explains. You are born with all the heart cells you will ever have. Your heart grows because the cells become larger, not because they multiply. However, other muscles do have the ability to repair themselves because they contain cells called myoblasts, which can reproduce.
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The second sentence in the article:
"Melissa Mills arrived at Edmonton's Stollery Children's Hospital last year after a sudden illness made her critically ill and a candidate for a heart transplant."
It wouldn't be slashdot if people didn't ask questions that were answered by the article
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*This is in the long term. On a beat-to-beat basis it may vary a little.
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She isn't the only one... (Score:5, Informative)
Common occurence : apparentely 1 in 3 child recove (Score:5, Informative)
As one in three children recover from myocarditis on their own, the medics decided to wait and see if Jack's own heart could grow strong enough to work on its own without the need for a transplant.
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Regeneration isn't for just TimeLords any more it seems...
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I didn't notice forehead ridges. Must be a Timelord then.
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Praise Jesus! (Score:4, Funny)
Thank you, Jesus! Praise be to your precious name.
Praise be to science! (Score:4, Funny)
I'd imagine that if more people had donated money to the church, Jesus would have been able to get to her sooner rather than later. Jesus loves us, but he needs money. So get off of your chair and donate some money now, so her little friend might be saved.
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I wonder if this girl is related to the Cheerleader off Heroes?
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This was man's work, not God's.
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is this that special? (Score:2, Interesting)
did it heal beyond what they thought was possible/normal? or is it only under certain conditions that weren't met this time?
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presumablely her heart just needed a reduction in workload to allow it to heal, so they used this neat gadget to temporarily assist it until it was fully functional again.
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IANAHRBMWI (I am not a heart researcher but my wife is)
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there are probably circumstances where the heart heals correctly, or forms scar tissue
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A lot of people go to the gym and over-do it with the weights and do not rest enough. Generally you get better results if you only exercise any given muscle group no more than every other day, with rest days in-between. For example, work arms one day, then legs the next, etc. Plus take weekends off entirely. Of course, this depends on what you want to achieve--if you want to look like a scarecrow/extreme-marathon-runner then go ahea
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removal surgery (Score:1)
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20th December 2006 and I'm watching my girlfriend Rachel die from sudden congestive heart failure.
I remember thinking, "Why isn't there a machine to pump the blood so her heart can rest?"
I hope this thing gets everywhere to save other people and their partners.
J1M.
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I hope all of you never have to watch someone you know die, I really do.
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That being said, I hope they all get ass cancer, and that their families, not wanting to have to experience watching someone die, abandon them to die alone.
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If you want to state an opinion like that, have the stones to own up to it.
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Therefore, little anonymous troll, I bid you adieu.
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I'm no doctor, but I guess this technology would not be suitable for use in all cases, and that some patients still require more conventional treatment by other means - but hopefully that will keep advancing too. It's amazing to see progress like this being made in medicine and I too hope that it can help many more people.
I extend my sincere condolences for your loss and my best wishes for you.
Sincerely,
Mark Williamson
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Damned paper-pushing fuck-tards.
I really feel bad for you, OP. And that's like the understatement of the year.
Needless to say, the lesson here to any americans should be, If you're having a serious heart condition, GO TO CANADA.
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- A study that showed that doctors tended to dismiss patient complaints about drug side effects
- An article by a WSJ journalist covering medical issues where the first oncologist dismissed any suggestions from her.
I guess in some cases it comes to down to the skill level of your medical staff and while
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Coincidentally enough, her name was also Rachel.
The news in the article are truly awesome. There may not be enough hearts for everyone, but at least with this machine they'll all get a better shot at pulling through, instead of just staying there waiting helplessly.
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Don't you know, the heart has adult stems in it. Hell, most of the body has them. Body can regenerate itself. No surprise to me
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Livers as well as hearts (Score:2, Informative)
A couple of them died from the effects of the surgery. Some others lasted long enough to finally get a transplant. But in several others their own livers
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Libertarian question (Score:3, Funny)
There was an excellent Outer Limits episode (1x05) of exactly this kind of an event, but of course Socialist propaganda was injected into it to make the ending morally repugnant.
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Most countries rich enough to afford it have socialised medicine (In the USA they make you go bankrupt and let your condition diteriorate horriblly first but they do provide eventually) and people like to know that if something terrible happens to them they will be cared for even if they don't at the time have the mony to pay for it.
P.S. If you really beli
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Call me when somebody survives being ripped to bloody shreds by red-hot shards of metal and we can start talking real-life Unreal Tournament. :P
-:sigma.SB
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