The Father of Molecular Gastronomy Whips Up a New Formula 144
An anonymous reader writes "French chemist and cook Hervé This maintains his quest to find the scientific precision behind great tasting food. Chef This is just one of a growing number of cooks that approaches food from a scientific perspective; making recipes in a lab instead of in the kitchen. The difference is that This was one of the pioneers of the field. 'This and a colleague, the late Oxford physicist Nicholas Kurti, conducted the experiments in their spare time. In 1988, the pair coined a term to describe their nascent field: molecular gastronomy. The name has since been applied to the kitchen wizardry of chefs like el Bulli's Ferran Adria and Alinea's Grant Achatz. But This is interested in basic culinary knowledge -- not flashy preparations -- and has continued to accumulate his precisions, which now number some 25,000.'"
This is confusing..(off topic) (Score:4, Funny)
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That is what This deserves! (Score:3, Funny)
This ambiguity comes from this This (and all Thises). These Thises should know better than to be named for a demonstrative pronoun [usingenglish.com] like "this".
This is another example of misnominy, the practice of naming people in really unfortunate ways. Movie stars started this trend by naming their kids after fruit and physical abstractions ("Apple", "River", "Moon", etc.) Now it's spreading to scientists and cooks.
Someone, please stop the insanity! For the children!
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I wonder if he likes the slashdot effect to his Inbox which the above comment of yours is likely to generate :).
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McGee On Food and Cooking is the bible (Score:4, Informative)
Mod parent up.
Even better, a link to the book at Amazon: McGee On Food and Cooking (Hardcover) [amazon.com]. (The hardcover version is worth getting).
Rich.
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One-liner book review (Score:4, Insightful)
If you're a cooking geek ('foodie') get these books
If you're a science geek and a cooking geek you already have these books.
Molecular Gastronomy would make an excellent Slashdot book review.
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Let's not forget Ferran Adria (Score:3, Informative)
We have Heston Blumenthal (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:We have Heston Blumenthal (Score:5, Interesting)
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Next week I'm going to his Minibar, basically a 30-course showoff of molecular gastronomy (and a lot more than $25, I'm afraid. It's a birthday present to a foodie friend of mine and a once-in-a-lifetim
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I had to cancel a reservation at Cafe Atlantico for this past Sat, but I'll try the mojito next time I'm there. Thanks for the tip!
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I've watched the minibar from the tables at Cafe Atlantico, and this should be fantastic.
BTW: at Cafe Atlantico, the pre-dinner prix fixe meal is an excellent bargain. I also highly recommend Jaleo, just around the corner. It's tapas, and the menu is continually changing; I never order the same thing twice (even though it's all fantastic
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I've been to Jaleo (in Bethesda, though), and I completely agree. There are a couple things we tend to order as standard and then a few plates of whatever's new or seasonal. Never a bad meal there. Might have to do that pre-theatre menu at Atlantico then too.
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I puzzled over how cold your home must be if you can cook at 55 degrees (and my wife always complains because I keep the thermostat at 60!) before realizing you meant 55 C!
Here in Fahrenheit Land, we call cooking like that "barbecue" and it's long familiar to even the lowliest hillbilly. But as you say, it's hard to imagine how good it is until you've tried it.
Re:We have Heston Blumenthal (Score:4, Informative)
Barbecue uses slightly higher temperatures and smoke as its dry heat source. Also, the meat is not sealed up with its juices. So you get something similar (and delicious), but not quite the same. If you ever come across it, give it a shot.
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Sous Vide (Score:2, Informative)
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*ducks*
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But does it taste good? (Score:4, Interesting)
There was a (UK) TV program on recently with a bloke who specialises in puddings (Sweet Baby James or something it's called and he makes the most fantastic easy to make puddings!!!) and he challenged a scientific chef and Mrs Farmhouse cook to bake a Victoria sponge cake... The boffin at HQ went to great lengths about how important it was to measure the ingredients and combine them in such a way and timed the cooking to the second... Mrs. Farmhouse woman just put in some of this and enough of that and beat it up with a hand whisk until it looked OK then baked it "until it's done".
Then they took the cakes to the cake buyer/tester in Harrods. Guess which one tasted and looked the best? The Mrs. Farmhouse one, of-course!
There's also a series on right now hosted by some scientific cook bod - it's quite entertaining, (especially when he deep fried a whole chicken in the last series - left it in a second too long and it caught fire) but I can't help thinking his name ought to be a "new millenium" substitute for "Gordon Bennett"... It's "Heston Blumenthal".
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An understanding of some of the chemical or molecular interactions in your food can be handy knowledge. It'll keep you away from the old Swedish Lemon Angel [everything2.com] debacle at least.
My limited experience with food scientists suggests that they rarely think about measuring things to infinite precision, but rather think about the underlying systems. More of a hacker mentality.
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Just saying...
Re:But does it taste good? (Score:5, Insightful)
Cooking science is about understanding what happens to food when we prepare it. It won't give us a runbook to achieve that perfect flavour, but it will help us to understand the process so that we get better at managing it.
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Cooking science isn't just about what happens to food when we prepare it. Food scientists know that different people react to different flavors differently. Some people can't even taste certain flavors.
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(For a really strange cake, forget to add the eggs. The texture is just weird, sortof like liquid sand.)
Lab Snacks (Score:2)
Come on, this is Slashdot. Half of the people here live off food that was flavor-engineered in a lab and vacu-formed into some sort of food-like eXtreme cheese thing.
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I highly recommend the book "Twinky, Deconstructed" to elaborate on your point. Informative, and despite the subject matter, makes for a light, enjoyable read.
I've always cared about what I eat and could identify at least the basic purpose of most items on an ingredient label ("Sugar, sugar, an emollient, another sugar, preservative, etc"
How many geeks like to cook? (Score:5, Informative)
One resource I can't recommend highly enough is Cook's Illustrated magazine, put out by the folks who do the PBS show, America's Test Kitchen. It has no advertisements, just in depth recipes and reviews you can trust. In each recipe, the highlight common problems and the solutions they've found through experimentation. They also tell about the failures and why they failed, and the science behind what went right and wrong.
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harold mcgee (Score:3, Informative)
German "version": Thomas Vilgis (Score:2)
As for the people that confuse this 'molecular gastronomy' with 'Engineered food' and preprocessed food, you miss the point. It is about taking the normal ingredients, you could even get it from the organic food store if you want, but trying to understand what the background-cause i
Science and cookery (Score:5, Interesting)
Food from a chemistry lab? (Score:1)
BAM!
lab vs home made. (Score:4, Interesting)
one reason, is that at home we have the ability to adapt to variations in the raw product, which you will get no matter how hard you try to control in a lab.
the other, is that the taste and smell receptors in our mouth are many factors more sensitive then lab equipment, meaning cooking "till it's done" is just a laymans way of saying a good cooks sense of smell is a much better indication of when food is ready then any lab insturment.
so while the IDEA that food can be scientifically expressed is correct, we are a LONG way from being able compete with those old nanna's down the road who make that awesome apple pie.
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One of his first discovery was the yellow part of an egg is cooked at 68C and white part at 63C. It seems nobody ever wonder about it!
The direct application of this knowledge is to make "perfect" boiled eggs. Simply put eggs in an oven at 65C. (You can do it at home, like I did
Other example: He discovered that quicker an ice cream was frozen, smaller were cristals in it, and smaller crita
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After all even Jules Verne mentioned it a long time ago: http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/v/verne/jules
quote: Instead of 100 degrees, the instrument registered only 66 degrees. "Take my advice, Ben Zoof," he said; "leave your eggs in the saucepan a good quarter of an hour."
"Boil them hard! That will never do," objected the orderly.
"You will not find them hard, my good fellow. Trust me, we shall be able to
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Meh! (Score:2)
Cola & other soft drinks
Yoghurt
Cheese in spray cans
Extruded corn snacks
Fast food burgers
etc.
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And you really think the following are made or formulated in Granny's kitchen and not by chemists in some industrial-sized 'lab':
well, let's see.
Cola & other soft drinks
Well, Cola was originaly created by a chemist/pharmacist type of person, and nowadays that pretty much equates to industrial lab.
Yoghurt
Well, maybe you are fooled by the ultra expensive left-turning specially formulated guaranteed to extend your life by 10 year or 5 minutes (whichever is less). I however eat regular yoghurt. As has been made for thousands of years. Sure, the mass production probably occurs in controlled, sterile conditions. But not much industrial lab in there.
Cheese in spray cans
Well, if you want
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btw I'm not kidding. Here in the netherlands I've heard people complain about how hard it is to eat healthy and even the consumer union said that supermarkets weren't doing enough to label healthy foods! My god, look it's an apple! what's that in the sky, is a brocoli? is it a brussel sprout? No its supper fo
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Hopefully things have changed!?
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You should follow a recipe the first time around, but more importantly than that, you should compare as many different recipes for a given item as you can get your hands on to see which are the most basic, most fundamental, and accurate. You can therefore toss out the ones that won't work. There are a lot of broken recipes around.
Second, you most certainly CAN screw up. A lot of people do. I've been cooking
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My rules are:
1. Taste it. Taste it raw, taste it cooking and taste it done. Taste herbs, spices, meat, fish, oil, vinegar. basically everything. Am I being clear on this?
2. Nothing makes up for good ingredients and good materials. I generally don't like aluminum pans because the thermal properties suck.
3. Because of being a programmer where accuracy and preparation are
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Copper rules!
I like the advice of an earlier
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Copper rules!
Cast Iron FTW!
Cast iron? Not tech geek enough ;) (Score:2)
And how about an oven that can behave like a "thermos flask" instead of heating your kitchen[1]. Set the temperature you want, it should get there quick and stays there.
I'm sure we can use heat pipe and phase change technology somewhere.
[1] More efficient to use a heat pump for heating your kitchen. Dump the heat from the thermos oven slowly after you are done wi
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Diamond plated pans seem like a terrible idea, they may have high conductivity, but it would still have to go through the metal centre and then the diamonds as well, so why bother with the diamond? unless the pan was made of solid diamond.
Secondly, heat conduction is not the key, what you need is a high heat capacity, so that your heat stays nice and constant, and doesn't fluctuate if you lift the it off the heat to
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As for number 3, a "pinch" actually is a technical amount (generally equal to 1/16 t or 1/4 to 1/2 of a gram depending on the ingredient--the precision to which you obey those measures is a personal preference
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I think we're as likely to break dow
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My approach is a bit different than yours, seemingly - I'd say get some good recipes, and obey them.
Why? Obeying recipes is generally an efficient way of avoiding poor results. Sure, lots of stuff is easy to make, but say you want to make Creme Brulee, or thick 'n chewy chocolate chip cookies or a nice italian risotto? Unless you're careful, the creme brulee will turn grainy, your cookies won't be chewy and the risotto will be so
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Ugh. I, too, am a techie geek and I find when I deviate even the slightest from a recipe, I create something that you could use as an adhesive to hold the tiles on the Space Shuttle.
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I actually
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But my favorite subjects for food preparation are beer and bread. Yeast is such an amazing and versatile organism. Think-- beer and bread are quite similar: the basic ingredients for beer are grain (usually barley, but also wheat), water, yeast, and hops. Bread is grain (usually wheat), water, yeast, and salt. But they are so different! With beer, you utilize the alcohol-producing phase o
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I'm guessing you don't do much baking.
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Cooking is an art...
Baking is a science...
Cooking you work with it as you go until you get what you want....
Baking you follow the instructions EXACTLY or you don't get what you want....
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Go to any Chinese restaurant and take a peak at their woks. The heat source is literally a series of blowtorches in a circle. You can't get that sort of consistent heat at home.
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Buy this book: Cookwise (Score:5, Informative)
I think that the right tools help immensely with cooking. Get 3 very good knives, and keep them sharp. I would recommend Wusthof: 8" chefs knife, paring knife, and a bread knife. Get 3-4 plastic cutting boards of decent size. That will get you started, and try to avoid all the gadgets that you see. Learn good techniques, like how to do basic chopping/dicing, and you won't need the gadgets to do it for you.
Next, I would suggest you try some classic recipes. Use good ingredients, and learn what everything tastes like. And enjoy it!
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It doesn't just give recipes. It also explains the testing and experimenting that went into developing the recipes. An interesting and useful book, for sure. I've done a fair bit of cooking and baking with this book and it has never let me down.
Still some problems to overcome (Score:1)
Recipie for: Nanotech Mountain Dew (Score:1)
Mini robots go into your bloodstream from the "Dew" and convert raw sugars in your bloodstream to pure caffine.
This stuff is NOT new. (Score:2)
Basic and advanced degrees in "food science" - including biochemistry, microbiology, science of taste, safe canning (home and industrial), cooking at all scales and with special requirements (home, restaurant, bakery, hospital, large institution, military base,
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Correction: That's Oregon State and the "botulism belt" is the Willamette valley.
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Assimilate This! No wait... where are you going?!
- That's no knife... This is a knife!
- Really, he is?!
- This IS SPARTA!
- Really, he is?!
You get the picture.
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No, he's in right field!
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Seems like a case of a faux-ami, non?
the king is dead, long live the king (Score:2)
Whe
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So what is his name?
(I'm so burned by This...)
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Food Network (Score:1)
But dosen't "Chef This" sound like a great title for a Food Network show?
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