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NASA Confirms Solar Storm Near 2012 344

An anonymous reader writes "`This week researchers announced that a storm is coming — the most intense solar maximum in fifty years. The prediction comes from a team led by Mausumi Dikpati of the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR). "The next sunspot cycle will be 30% to 50% stronger than the previous one," she says. If correct, the years ahead could produce a burst of solar activity second only to the historic Solar Max of 1958.`

`Dikpati's forecast puts Solar Max at 2012. Hathaway believes it will arrive sooner, in 2010 or 2011.`

Anyone familiar with the Mayan Calendar? December 21, 2012 (13.0.0.0.0 in the Mayan Calendar) Coincidence?"
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NASA Confirms Solar Storm Near 2012

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  • Apocalypse? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by muellerr1 ( 868578 ) on Wednesday March 21, 2007 @09:11AM (#18427589) Homepage

    Anyone familiar with the Mayan Calendar? December 21, 2012 (13.0.0.0.0 in the Mayan Calendar) Coincidence?"
    Great. It wasn't enough that the fundies were predicting apocalypse, now there's a secular apocalypse to look forward to. And here I thought we were done with Y2K. Sheeple sure loves them some end times.
  • End of the world? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by hawkinspeter ( 831501 ) on Wednesday March 21, 2007 @09:12AM (#18427599)
    Yes - it's just a coincidence
  • by xxxJonBoyxxx ( 565205 ) on Wednesday March 21, 2007 @09:13AM (#18427611)

    Anyone familiar with the Mayan Calendar? December 21, 2012 (13.0.0.0.0 in the Mayan Calendar) Coincidence?"


    No. Yes.
  • Coincidence? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Skidge ( 316075 ) on Wednesday March 21, 2007 @09:15AM (#18427633)

    Anyone familiar with the Mayan Calendar? December 21, 2012 (13.0.0.0.0 in the Mayan Calendar) Coincidence?"
    Yes. Yes, it is.
  • Sure.... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Zeek40 ( 1017978 ) on Wednesday March 21, 2007 @09:17AM (#18427659)
    If they're as accurate at predicting storms on the sun as they are here on earth, I'll believe them when it's happening.
  • Coincidence (Score:5, Insightful)

    by eldavojohn ( 898314 ) * <eldavojohn@gma[ ]com ['il.' in gap]> on Wednesday March 21, 2007 @09:18AM (#18427671) Journal

    Anyone familiar with the Mayan Calendar?
    Yes, I am familiar with the Tzolk'in Calendar.

    December 21, 2012 (13.0.0.0.0 in the Mayan Calendar) Coincidence?
    Yes, coincidence. I was first exposed to the-world-will-end-in-2012 when I read Graham's book Fingerprints of the Gods. I wasn't sold on his numerology.

    Let me break it down for you: the Mayans had a very advanced & complex calendar that took into account a lot of different cycles and even some of the most extraordinary hiccups that come with man's attempt at keeping track of time. For the Gregorian calendar, we have leap years except we skip one every four hundred years and even with that in place I think we lose a day every 8,000 years. And you will find that every model has some special issues.

    So, back to the Mayans, their measurements of days came in sets of 13, contrary to our sets of 7 days in a week. So the world is no more likely to end on 13.0.0.0.0 than it was on the new years even in year seven. Just because 13 was always the last number in their cycles just means that we start a new cycle. No cataclysmic event needed to mark it. The cycle simply repeats and they most likely go to 1.0.0.0.0 there's no such thing as overflow in their calendar.

    Fun hokey astrological implications? Yes. Cold hard scientific data pointing to the end of the world? No.
  • Great more doom (Score:1, Insightful)

    by __aalnoi707 ( 880009 ) * on Wednesday March 21, 2007 @09:20AM (#18427675)
    First its Y2K then killer asteroids, Unix timestamp running out in 2038 now this. Whats next?
  • Re:Umm, old news? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by daeg ( 828071 ) on Wednesday March 21, 2007 @09:50AM (#18428023)
    As someone who used to work in news, I can tell you that is entirely false. After the event, there are even more stories that you can pull from an event than there were leading up to the event. For instance: Did the storm affect anything? Was it stronger than predicted? Why? Does it affect local animals at all? What about children? Was your child affected? Can we link to to increased teen suicide? Was it caused by aliens? Can we find someone that thinks it was aliens? Was the prediction wrong? Was it right? Was it both right and wrong? Are there any local experts that can weigh in on the subject? ...no? Can we make some experts?

    Local news was terrifying to say the least.
  • Re:Apocalypse? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Guuge ( 719028 ) on Wednesday March 21, 2007 @11:17AM (#18429219)

    You clearly don't know what the word 'secular' means. Grab a dictionary. You'll find that this sort of Pythagorean mysticism is not at all secular. Indeed, the word you're looking for is "mystical".

    The supposed difference between fundamentalist dogma and mystical superstition is not compelling to me, but you can observe it if you wish.

  • Re:Oh nooo!!! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by saider ( 177166 ) on Wednesday March 21, 2007 @11:49AM (#18429605)
    Of course, if Christianity is wrong, then all bets are off and maybe the Mayans do know when Jesus is coming. But then we have a Paradox.

    The mayans do not know of Jesus, therefore no paradox.

    Possibility Matrix.
    0-Both are right - Mayans without knowledge of Jesus predict the end of the world. Christians predict the end of the world, which includes Jesus v2.0.
    1-Christians right, Mayans wrong - Lots of "I told you so"s bantered about.
    2-Christians wrong, Mayans right - Fewer "I told you so"s bantered about.
    3-Both wrong - Life goes on as normal and some people begin to realize that prophecy is inherently unreliable.

    Another possibility is that people cause the end of the world themselves and spin that as their prophecy coming true.

  • Re:Oh nooo!!! (Score:1, Insightful)

    by DAtkins ( 768457 ) on Wednesday March 21, 2007 @12:10PM (#18429917) Homepage
    Ummm, because it was funny?

  • Re:Oh nooo!!! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Overly Critical Guy ( 663429 ) on Wednesday March 21, 2007 @01:35PM (#18431303)
    Hush, you're ruining Al Gore's fundraising efforts.

    Everything is driven by money. Always follow the money trail. Why do you think there are people who whine about embryonic stem cell research even though only adult stem cells have yielded viable results? Because the guys getting results have private investors, and the guys not getting results run to the public to make everyone else pay them with federal funds--aka, your taxes.
  • Re:Oh nooo!!! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Chysn ( 898420 ) on Wednesday March 21, 2007 @02:02PM (#18431797)
    > The United Nations found that there is more Methane produced from livestock, which raises global temperature greater than CO2 by a factor of
    > approx. 20, than any human caused CO2 combined

    You don't consider the cultivation of livestock a human activity? Seriously?

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