Athens Breeding "Super Mosquitoes" 458
Chemisor writes "Air pollution and cramped housing conditions in Athens, Greece, are creating a new breed of mosquitoes which are bigger, faster, and can smell humans from farther away. The super insects have color vision and detect humans from 25-30 meters, which is about 50% farther than the ordinary mosquitoe. Beating their wing 500 times a second provides them with extra speed, and the larger bodies (by 0.3ug) presumably allow larger bloodsucking capacity." And in a similar vein (har har) New Scientist had a piece about what mosquitoes like or hate about people.
Minnesota State Bird (Score:5, Funny)
If you have someone that loves "all of God's creatures" then you should throw them in pond filled with mosquitoes and see how long it takes them to become a killing machine. Not very long I'd wager. In fact, mosquitoes are pretty good proof that there is no god. Why would a being of infinite good unleash such a horrible plague upon man?
It seemed that the people who produced the most sweat and breathed the hardest were the most attractive. These features seem to come hand in hand with being overweight but I never really bought the idea that overweight people's blood tasted better. If that were true, all the mosquitoes would have moved to Wisconsin.
Instead, you'd have mosquitoes buzzing around your mouth & ears. Why? Because I guess they are attracted to carbon dioxide big time. You accumulate natural carbon dioxide in the wells of your ears and it pours out of your mouth. They also somehow detect lactic acid which you'll find about large animals.
For those of you who don't know, mosquitoes breed in water (when the eggs hatch, they look like this [howstuffworks.com]). Not moving water, but standing water. One of the tasks I used to have was laying silage down, putting a tarp over it and weighting the tarp down with old tires. Invariably, rainfall would fill the insides of the tires with just enough water to make them each a breeding well for mosquitoes. It's not a fun job but you have to make sure that all that old scummy water is emptied out otherwise you'd find yourself engulfed with mosquitoes at the end of the summer.
I've never underestimated mosquitoes, I think they need to be very good at detecting carbon dioxide, scents, heat & water vapor in order to successfully find food for their eggs and lay them. This is quite a task considering what they've got and I think that it's amazing they manage to reproduce at all. I dream of the day when mosquitoes are endangered organisms.
*mental note* Do not hold Olympic summer games in Athens, Greece.
Re:Minnesota State Bird (Score:4, Funny)
Yeah, it's funny to read this account but it's all too true. I was sitting out on a friend's deck last night and the little fuckers not only got me but got me through my sneakers and through my sock. I now have one of the largest welts *EVER* on my foot in the most uncomfortable spot to itch and irritate
If only mosquitos came with something positive like the Cane Toads... Mmm, licking toads! Unfortunately they only come with West Nile and various other nasty diseases. I don't exactly think that the "high" from West Nile would be as enjoyable
Bleh
Re:Minnesota State Bird (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Minnesota State Bird (Score:4, Interesting)
The worst is when they swarm and hover outside of all building openings because they can detect the CO2 inside and wait for humans to exit. It's nasty.
I am a huge outdoorsman and I pretty much refuse to do anything in the woods from May through September. The ticks (deer, as I've had lymes already) and the mosquitos are just unbearable. Now we have to deal with even *more* invasive poisionous plant species like Wild Parsnip [state.mn.us].
Minnesota sucks
Re:Ha! Why do you think this research is in Scotla (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Minnesota State Bird (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Minnesota State Bird (Score:2, Funny)
"Land of Ten Thousand Lakes...and a Hundred Billion Mosquitos."
Re:Minnesota State Bird (Score:2)
The "state bird" joke is quite common up there, too.
When biking in the mountains back behind Anchorage, a buddy and I would fight over who had to "ride point" because the bugs could get so thick, we'd quite literally inhale mosquitos, there's so many of them desperate for some blood. Logic was t
Re:Minnesota State Bird (Score:3, Interesting)
I took a canoe trip up to the BSA high adventure base on the northern tier several years back as part of a group from the local BSA council. Neat trip on the whole, but I got bit by a mosquito *through* my sleeping bag the first night. Holy hell.
Re:Minnesota State Bird (Score:5, Funny)
I had a friend once who stepped on a mosquito once... the thing just laughed, threw my friend to the ground and bit him until he was on the verge of death. It left a note telling him to leave town or he'd get it again.
Scary shit.
Re:Minnesota State Bird (Score:2)
Michigan State Bird (Score:5, Interesting)
It's not the size, is the quantity. We had big, even HUGE mosquitoes in Michigan, but it was the tenacious little bitsy ones that appeared in great quantities and stung the most. Smaller mosquitoes also are able to get through smaller holes and gaps and were typically the ones found indoors.
It's been said "Intimidation is being in a dark room with a mosquito." As tired as you may be, lying in bed, there's something about that faint whine that can make the most tired very alert.
I like Dave Barry's line about armor piercing stealth mosquitoes and think this is what the Greeks are up to. Screw the North Koreans, it's the greeks we need to keep an eye on.
One last thing: Ponds are filled with mosquitoes. Larvae perhaps, but not the adults. Mosquitoes prefer long grass or shade, which is why it's often a good idea to just write off the golfball hit into the brush or edge or woods. Worst around ponds are deer flies, which I used to refer to as Flying Bastards
Re:Minnesota State Bird (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Minnesota State Bird (Score:2)
I have no affiliate with the company, other than being a sem
Re:Minnesota State Bird (Score:3, Informative)
snip propane to (via a catalytic process) produce CO2 and heat
Also know as burning propane.
It actually uses platinum beads to oxidize the propane without a flame. Maybe someone with some greater chemistry background can expand upon that... It's not like a BBQ, by any means...
Re:Minnesota State Bird (Score:2)
Speaking as someone who upholds strict religious and moral convictions of respect for all life, to the point where I'm known for catching flies or spiders in a cup and chucki
Mosquito repellant (Score:3, Interesting)
I've heard that garlic is a natural mosquito repellant (seems to repel many bugs such as ants and cockroaches). I've read that spraying one's self with a garlic tea works, or even eating a clove of garlic (not sure how long before mosquito exposure). Does this have any affect on super mosquitos of the northern midwest? And how bad does a garlic spray smell? Mosquito repellants [eartheasy.com]
Ball game called... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Minnesota State Bird (Score:3, Funny)
when we have draughts the Aedes mosquitoes will lay their eggs anywhere
When mosquitoes start laying egges IN MY BEER I'll know it's time to move.
Hemos, eh? (Score:3, Funny)
Color vision (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Color vision (Score:3, Informative)
http://jeb.biologists.org/cgi/content/full/208/4/ 6 87 [biologists.org]
"For instance, papilionid butterflies have six opsins, one UV, one blue and four LW..."
FYI SW, MW and LW are "short wavelength (SW, 300-400 nm), middle wavelength (MW, 400-500 nm) and long wavelength (LW, 500-600 nm)" - same source.
For info, bees are UV,green,blue.
Re:Color vision (Score:3, Insightful)
Makes no sense (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Makes no sense (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Makes no sense (Score:5, Interesting)
Color vision is a distinct evolutionary advantage in a number of settings. As I said before however, regular mosquitos have some form of color vision with two photopigments. Bees have three photopigments that are tuned up into the UV portion of the spectrum so they can better identify pollinating flowers. For mosquitos, perhaps a little color vision would help them to better identify easy meals like pink apes rather than tougher meals like animals with lots of hair....
Re:Makes no sense (Score:2)
May be they are racist? ;)
Re:Makes no sense (Score:4, Funny)
Well one big factor with evolution is having the energy to run your body. Humans spends a vast percentage of the energy we generate on keeping are brain's ticking over - which we can only maintain because the brain allows to us generate enough food to make that reasonable. Where most animals have as stupid a brain as they can get away with - as it's cheaper to run.
These insects already had color vision, the ability to smell humans from a distance, and bodies - but the greater population of humans created a situation where they can afford to grow bigger, afford to run more powerful noses and afford better vision- as there is enough food to support the greater level of energy these "improved" bodies require to be sustained.
Likewise - if food becomes scarce for these animals evolution will lead to them becoming more fuel efficient again.
This is analogous to the situation facing Americans and their SUVs.
Extra bit (Score:3, Informative)
The better vision allows you to see more chicks to impregnate.
Just because you can't immediately see why evolution would lead to something - doesn't mean that it won't happen - it just means your not looking at the situation
Re:Makes no sense (Score:2)
It does if you make the assumption that blood is the only way a large city like athens increases the food available to mosquitoes.
But more importantly - I disagree - male Mosquitoes die within a few days - and ty
Re:Makes no sense (Score:2)
simple solution... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:simple solution... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:simple solution... (Score:2)
I think they have some lawyers in rural areas too.
Re:simple solution... (Score:4, Informative)
Helloooooo? Athens is a city [google.com] .
As one of the luck few... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:As one of the luck few... (Score:2, Funny)
That's evolutionary one-upmanship. It's how the game is played. Sorry that your relative advantage is going the way of the Dodo :)
Welcome to the puss-y inflamed itching-to-all-hell scabbed-over mosquito-bite reality that many of the rest of us have to endure.
Time to join the normals, I guess... Natural Mosquito Repelling is a pretty lame Super-power, anyway.
Re:As one of the luck few... (Score:3, Funny)
why not earlier? (Score:2)
Re:why not earlier? (Score:2, Funny)
Enhanced hunting capabilities often REQUIRES more energy to keep the organism alive, so if Athens wasn't such a fertile feeding ground they wouldn't have had the resources to get bigger/better.
But don't worry, pretty soon people will be complaining about the glut of birds feeding on the skeeters followed by the glut of cats eating the birds, followed by....
Re:why not earlier? (Score:3, Insightful)
And then the gorillas freeze to death?
Could the converse be true? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Could the converse be true? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Could the converse be true? (Score:2, Funny)
Patents... (Score:5, Insightful)
How in the world can a chemical that every human produces be patented? Isn't that prior art? Ridiculous. I could understand if it were some new compound they synthesized, but this is a nothing more than greed.
Dan East
Re:Patents... (Score:2)
Same way that Aspirin, Penicilin, Insulin and many other chemicals have been patented.
Re:Patents... (Score:2)
Re:Patents... (Score:5, Insightful)
Without that protection, his recipe would be a closely guarded secret and there is the possibility that his death, or a fire in the factory, or a hard drive crash, would result in the formula being lost. Then we all lose. That's the way things used to work, and that's why we can't make violins as good as Stradivarius, or swords out of damascus steel (or buildings out of it for that matter).
Patents do benefit mankind. It's not this guy's fault that politicians have perverted the system.
Re:Patents... (Score:2, Insightful)
No, according to patent law, he doesn't deserve anything. Patent law does not recognize a discovery as an invention. They can patent a particular means of synthesizing this chemical or extracting it from some other animal or plant, but they cannot and should not be able to patent the discovery itself. Patenting the chemical would be like discovering that you can make some particular type of object out of wood and then patenting trees.
If they get a patent on this discovery, it will be quite possibly the
Re:Patents... (Score:4, Informative)
Actually, I believe that particular puzzle has been solved [ntsource.com].
Re:Patents... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Patents... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Patents... (Score:4, Interesting)
1) Get a million dollars- give it all away to help other people with misquito repellents. Done. The only result is maybe more people now.
2) Get a million dollars- invest it in a new misquito repellent. Sell it and make ten million dollars. Give a million away as charity and invest the rest.
Short of stealing the money from "cold hearted capitalists" through taxes, after a very short period of time "giving it away for human happiness", the people giving the money away have no more money to give away. If they raise taxes too high, that source goes away too.
Any time you help a group of people that are a drain on society, the main result is a *larger* group of people that are a drain on society.
Don't get me wrong- I do charity work. I give money to charity. It makes me feel good to do these things. But it is given out of my *excess* money and *excess* time.
But logic is logic. You screw the producers in a group, and you end up with no producers. The key is balancing their needs against the rest of society. I think in the case of corporations and executives, that the rewards given them are *way* out of proportion. I think another group of people would take a lot less compensation to do 99% to 100% of the same thing the current batch are doing.
The north of Canada (Score:2, Funny)
'Compares favorably' to DEET? (Score:5, Insightful)
In my experience, DEET does absolutely nothing to repel biting insects from me. If this new stuff 'compares favorably' to DEET, I guess I have nothing to look forward to here.
It doesn't really have to work though... He just needs to put 'Organic' on the bottle, and people will buy it even if they have no clue what the hell is in there. They'll swear it works too.
Re:'Compares favorably' to DEET? (Score:2)
Probably add some fruity fragnace to it. Like citronella, the favoured repellent of the New Agers. CITRONELLA DOES NOT WORK. As for this guy, notice he was doing tests to see which of two victims the mosquitoes preferred. What would happen if both had these mystery chemical in the same amount? Would they both be safe? I doubt it. He would have mentioned that i
Nobody has said it yet... (Score:2, Funny)
I, for one, welcome our new giant color-seeing long-distance mosquito overlords.
Size? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Size? (oops) (Score:2, Insightful)
Metres??? (Score:2)
Okay, I could be wrong, but David Attenborough is like the voice of God to me, so I'll need some convincing.
What about the humans? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:What about the humans? (Score:4, Funny)
I find your ideas interesting and would like to subscribe to your newsletter
Sincerely,
G.W. Bush
Not Rocket Science (Score:2)
Unfortunately the new Super Mosquito is "snub-nosed" and will not make a puncture wound. Rather, the Super Mosquito will land on a human and relentlessly force its entire head into the target over a period of 6-7 hours.
It's *preference* only (Score:3, Interesting)
I seriously doubt that this will work as well as a repellant. All he did was figure out what flavor of human mosquitos like. Sure, if there are lots of humans around, they will go after the one they like, but in a pinch, they are still comming after you. It's like saying, we did research and found that oni prefers chocolate ice cream, so we are only selling vanilla - that wll keep him away.
No, actually it wont. If you're the only ice cream shop in town, I'll make do with vanilla. Similarly, if you're out walking alone in the woods, the mosquitoes are going to bite you even if you don't taste just the way they like.
This discovery is still good for when you are in a group of people - unless everyone in the group makes use of it, then you're back where you started.
I for one... (Score:2, Funny)
Let's start a discussion on patents (Score:2)
The most potent repellent chemical were then isolated by strapping miniature electrodes to the antennae of female mosquitoes and checking their responses to specific compounds. Logan will not divulge the names of the chemicals until they are patented.
"It's very exciting," Logan told New Scientist, "because these are totally natural chemicals"
So, what is the status of the situation which allows companies to patent naturally occurring phenomena, such as DNA and now a scent w
Re:Let's start a discussion on patents (Score:2)
It's not a patent on the naturally-occurring compound, per se. Rather, patents on methods of producing said compound, or patents for using said compound for a specific use.
After all, tons of pharmaceuticals occur naturally in nature (or at least their parent class of compounds do). And we wouldn't want unscrupu
What Mosquitoes like and hate? (Score:5, Funny)
Hell, I can tell you that without reading the article.
Mosquitoes like:
-that humans have blood
Mosquitoes hate:
-that humans squash them
There you go.
Apparently (Score:2)
Natural Resistance to Venom? (Score:4, Interesting)
I am convinced that I do NOT have a natural resistance to mosquito venom, rather I believe that I have 'tuned' my body to be resistant. You see, growing up as a child I had the idea in my head (don't know how it got there), that if I just let the mosquitos bite me that eventually my body would adapt and become resistant. So while everybody else was slapping their arms and waving their hands about in the air, I would sit there and let them suck away... after I figured they had enough blood, I would pick them off by the leg and let them fly away.
Is there any merit to this? I'm not sure, but I can tell you that I USED to swell up after begin bitten, but NOW I'm all but immune.
Re:Natural Resistance to Venom? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Natural Resistance to Venom? (Score:4, Funny)
Yet.
Re:Natural Resistance to Venom? (Score:3, Interesting)
mosquito hawks vs. giant mosquitos (Score:2)
Wipe them out. All of them. (Score:2)
Can't help myself (Score:2, Funny)
I can imagine they'd be a pain in the ass. Or thigh. Or hand. Or practically anywhere, for that matter.
*rimshot*
Typical Science Thinking. (Score:2, Funny)
Bats, Natures Mosquito Control device (Score:5, Informative)
I am convinced that although the electric bug zappers take out a lot of insects, and can be enjoyable to watch, they also seem to attract all the bugs from your neighbors yards into yours..
For more info on Bat conservation and plans to build your own bat house check out Bat Conservation International [batcon.org]
From the BatCon FAQ
Dragonflies in these parts... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Dragonflies in these parts... (Score:4, Informative)
http://www.discover.com/issues/mar-02/departments
http://www.unr.edu/nevadanews/detail.aspx?id=1205 [unr.edu]
According to this: http://www.ponddoc.com/WhatsUpDoc/WildLife/BuzzMo
Evolution on equal terms (Score:3, Funny)
Being able to detect humans at longer... (Score:3, Interesting)
Mosquito 2.0 (Score:3, Funny)
On a related note... (Score:3, Interesting)
In rural counties, when the Greyhound or other transport truck drives through, they have to stop at regular intervals to clean the front of the vehicle off. The bugs are so thick, especially on poorly lit rural roads, that their dead carcasses tend to completely block the radiator grill (thanks to the fine-mesh anti-snow grill we all use up here).
The last time I took a greyhound through saskatchewan, we stopped after a few hours, the driver got out a stick, and knocked off a solid mat of dead insects, probably 1.5" thick, that covered the fronts of both side mirrors. It was heavy enough it made a "thump" when it hit the ground. The windshield wipers were hidden. The front grill was mostly covered, again almost 1" thick. He said that on differently designed busses with their altered aerodynamics, sometimes the bugs end up hitting the headlights, and frequent stops are required or you're soon driving in the dark.
They can be so vicious, animals locked in a small pen are driven mad. City children who go out to the country for a day have been bitten so bad they can't flex their arm or leg (presumably, rural kids are used to it, or have developed some armour-like skin that the farmers are keeping secret until the revolution). Falling asleep without repellant on is just not done, as you'd wake up with bites over your entire body, even in the middle of the city. Inadvertantly wandering into a marshy area with a mosquito breeding area and stirring them up can seem to block out the sun. Even at my old house, in a small park in the middle of the big city, if i didn't keep the grass trimmed, I couldn't walk from car to house without getting bitten a dozen times.
It's widely recognized as the severest hazing ritual, to take the young man, clothe him completely, tape him to a tree in a woody area, and then unzip and expose his manhood.
Not for the embarasement factor, or the fun, but because after a few hours his manhood will be unrecognizable and he will be crazy with the urge to scratch.
Many people have been bitten so severely, in normal, everyday circumstances, that they scratch themselves until they bleed.
But, yeah, these Greek ones can see colour. Oooohhh, scary.
Re:"Mosquitoe"? (Score:2, Informative)
As much as I would like to make fun of Quayle, mosquitoe is the British spelling much like colour is the British spelling of color.
Re:"Mosquitoe"? (Score:2)
Re:"Mosquitoe"? (Score:2)
Look on the container..... Where is it made? My understanding is that most repellent (with DEET) is made in the US.
Mod parent down Re:"Mosquitoe"? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:"Mosquitoe"? (Score:3, Interesting)
Perhaps this might be more meaningful:
% echo colour | spell -b
% echo color | spell -b
color
% echo mosquito | spell -b
% echo mosquitoe | spell -b
mosquitoe
Re:"Mosquitoe"? (Score:2, Funny)
Obviously, the dog is on fire.
Re:"Mosquitoe"? (Score:2)
Re:"Mosquitoe"? (Score:2)
That's because the two make a very delectable dish when prepared together. You can also throw some potatoes in there if you'd like.
Re:Someone should shoot them... (Score:5, Interesting)
Voila 90% of the mosquitos go over there to die as a giant source of Co2 means lots of good things to eat to the little buggers.
My grandfather was doing this a decade ago.
Re:Someone should shoot them... (Score:4, Informative)
Or since this is Slashdot, maybe a more high-tech colution [scapest.com].
Re:Three Magic Letters! (Score:2)
Re:Three Magic Letters! (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Three Magic Letters! (Score:3, Informative)
1. Breed DDT-resistant mosquitos
2. Contaminate the groundwater for generations, leading to
3. Retarded children and children with other developmental disabilities
4. Massive environmental damage, especially massive bird die-off
It's amazing how many great ideas you can have when you stop believing those so-called "scientists" and "researchers"
Re:Three Magic Letters! (Score:2)
I believe that nearly _ALL_ chemicals can cause harm to fetuses. I don't think there is any "safe" product out there that can't harm or kill someone if used incorrectly. That being said, I also think that many items that cause harm can ALSO increase health based on its usage. Even cigarette smoking has a good amount of positives in clinical studies, especially in people with memory lo
Re:Great,,, (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Or, we could just use DDT and there's no proble (Score:3, Informative)
Farmers were using shiatloads of DDT on their fields.
Literally kilograms of the stuff per acre.
Rain + Field = DDT Runoff
DDT, in the quantities used in/around the home, is not terribly harmful.
Unfortunately, the hysteria over DDT gave it such a bad reputation that nobody will pay for it to be used at all, despite the fact that the ban is only on agricultural use.