Cell Division Reversed for the First Time 238
SubtleGuest writes "Gary J. Gorbsky, Ph.D., a scientist with the Oklahoma Medical Research Foundation, has found a way to reverse the process of cell division.
The discovery could have important implications for the treatment of cancer, birth defects and numerous other diseases and disorders. Gorbsky's findings appear in the April 13 issue of the journal Nature.
"No one has gotten the cell cycle to go backwards before now," said Gorbsky. "This shows that certain events in the cell cycle that have long been assumed irreversible may, in fact, be reversible."
In the lab, Gorbsky and his OMRF colleagues were able to control the protein responsible for the division process, interrupt and reverse the event, sending duplicate chromosomes back to the center of the original cell, an event once thought impossible.
Here is a video of it happening."
The way it really happens (Score:5, Funny)
WhatsAPro.com [whatsapro.com]
Re:The way it really happens (Score:5, Funny)
Why is this outrageous video not labeled "not safe for work" or something?!
I've always wanted 46 pairs of chromosomes! (Score:2)
Now, there's two of me.
Re:The way it really happens (Score:3, Funny)
Re:MOD PARENT UP! (Score:3, Informative)
Define "nobody." It played just fine here, on an AMD64 Linux box with mplayer and Firefox's mplayer plugin.
PEBKAC.
ASCII Version of Undivision (Score:2, Funny)
Here is the ASCII version:
frame 1: O........O
frame 2: O.....O
frame 3: O..O
frame 4: OO
frame 5: O)
frame 6: O
Does this mean ... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Does this mean ... (Score:2, Funny)
So unfortunately, no. Your parents still have to live with their mistake.
We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years... (Score:2, Interesting)
important implications for the treatment of cancer
i get my hopes up for a little while, just as most of the world has since the War on Cancer was officially announced in the 50's, and untold amounts of money have been spent by the NIH. but the truth is, i probably need to quit smoking to have the best chance at not dying from canc
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:3, Interesting)
I've always assumed that most smokers are people with untreated ADHD. Has anyone read anything to indicate whether or not this is the case?
The positive effects of smoking (feeling calmed down and more focused) are the same effects of ADHD medication except, obviously, the medication won't cause cancer, it is given in a dose that is consistent through the entire day, and it is not addi
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:3, Informative)
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:2)
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:3, Informative)
Actually, a smoker feels calmed down due to elevated levels of dopamine generated by the nicotine. While withdrawl symptoms can cause stress which is then relieved by more nicotine, that doesn't discount the stimulant effects of smoking.
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:2)
> Actually, a smoker feels calmed down due to elevated levels of dopamine generated by
> the nicotine. While withdrawl symptoms can cause stress which is then relieved by more
> nicotine, that doesn't discount the stimulant effects of smoking.
You are both right. The dopamine effect is what gets people hooked on nicotine in the first place, but as use continues, the dopamine effect lessens and the cravings take over.
My
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:2)
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:2)
It did make it easier for me.
I quit smoking when I started taking Concerta. It was still hard to do, and I had to use patches for a few months, but I was able to quit.
The GP is correct - part of the reason I smoked was that it gave me focus (I assume because of the acetylcholine/nicotine gateways in my brain), and having something that worked better, lasted longer, and wouldn't give me lung cancer was a big help.
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:2)
But you are right in a way. Smoking did calm me down, and after I quit I felt really stupid for about a year because I couldn't focus well.
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:3, Informative)
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:2)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperfocus [wikipedia.org]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhd#Views_on_neurod
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:4, Informative)
Zyban, a fanfrickin'tastic smoking cessation pill, is simply remarketed Welbutrin. Welbutrin is an anti-depressant.
It seems that they discovered many of the smokers taking Welbutrin reported a marked decrease in cigarette cravings. Now you can buy the *exact* same drug with a different colour coating and a different name to help you quit smoking.
I have taken it. I was doing well, until a death in the family (non-cancer or smoking-related) buggered me up. Pathetic excuse, I know.
But while I was on Zyban I would literally go hours (unheard of any other time) without even thinking about a cigarette. It's really something else.
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:2)
Interestingly enough, it's also used to treat ADHD (and panic attacks). I hope it doesn't turn out to have nasty side-effects, because it seems like a very useful drug.
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:2)
I woke up one day and said "I'm going to quit next monday." I spent that week tapering off somewhat, and used the patch when I quit. I don't know how much of an effect the tapering and patch had, but they were isignificant compared to the effect of simply quitting.
Quitting (Score:2)
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:2)
Or alternatively, just make the smokes so damn poisonous that they have a 100% mortality rate (within say, 18 months), and the problem will "solve itself", so to speak.
They'll either quit - or die.
Same position they're currently in, but with a little added motivation to stop procrast
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:2, Informative)
a) Who said anything about not trying to quit?
b) Who was blaming psych studies? I was simply trying to make the point that it *is* an addition, and about just how "easy" it is to quit. And the po
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:2)
There's also a rumour that the health units in Ontario will soon start offering free patches and nicotine replacements to those wishing to quit.
So there is some help there for them and there is more coming.
The good news is that today (at least in Ontario) fewer teens are starting to smoke and more people are success
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:2)
Well I know for a fact that the health unit in the county that I work for has smoking cessation groups already. I've heard recently about the free patches and nicotine supplements just recently, so that could still not happen. But it sounded pretty certain, so who knows.
And I did some looking on that 13% statistic. I believe that figure was for teens. As I found this [cancer.ca] and it looks like we'll have to meet in the middle. It claims 20% of Ontarians ages 15 and up are smokers as of 2003.
But do keep an e
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:2)
I am emphatically NOT an "intolerant anti-smoking crusader." I hated them when I smoked and I vowed I would not become one when I quit. The only reason I posted was because the grandparent post expressed a desire to quit.
I said "simply quit", because I do believe it to be the easiest way. It may not work the first time, or the second, or even the third. But if the desire to quit is really there, it will eventua
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:2)
I smoked for twenty five years, and everyone around me said I could not quit because it was more addictive than heroin. They said after twenty five years it was impossible. "Oh man," they said, "you'll never be able to quit!" BUT I DID! It sounds too simplistic to be true, but it is: to quit smoking you simply do not smoke a
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:2)
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:2)
Actually, "cancer" is an umbrella name for a large group of different diseases with different causes and symptoms. More and more of them are curable or at least treatable.
But yeah, quitting smoking would be a good idea for a number of reasons, of course...
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:2)
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:3, Insightful)
i've been a non-smoker for 1 year, 51 weeks (my stop anniversary is 4/20! hah!)
the thing that finally worked for me was practice. you gotta practice quitting until you get it right. 1 day, 3 weeks, 14 months, whatever, if you fail, try again, and try again soon.
the other thing that helps in quitting is knowing yourself: why you smoke, why you want to smoke, what helps you not want to smoke, etc. self knowledge and a bit of determination is about all you need. oh, yeah, tr
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:2)
I can only hope. But then I've got a witches brew of ALS, cancer and what not in my family.
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:5, Insightful)
You're the victim of a very fundamental misunderstanding. The overall cancer death rate is actually 1 in 1. If you live long enough, you will eventually die of cancer. It's a perfectly-normal consequence of telomere loss due to aging.
As we get better at preventing and treating heart disease and other vascular problems like stroke, it's only reasonable to expect cancer death rates to rise. It is not reasonable to start leaping to wild-assed conclusions about carcinogens, cell phones, and conspiracies. None of those are the problem. The problem is that most of the low-hanging fruit in the health-care business has been picked, and only the hard problems like cancer (which, as others have noted, refers to a great variety of different diseases) remain.
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:5, Interesting)
Good examples of cancers with excellent cure rates are Wilm's tumor [wikipedia.org], acute lymphoblastic leukemia (ALL) [emedicine.com], neuroblastoma [wikipedia.org],retinoblastoma [wikipedia.org], and Hodgkin's lymphoma [wikipedia.org].
And this is just breaking the tip of the iceberg. Most of that NIH money actually goes to good use, unlike a lot of government spending.
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:2)
Sure there are cancers that can be beaten like ALL but what state does it leave the body in to fight off relapses and the obvious immune system deficiences inherent in fighting it? Cases such as this one [thelittleappfactory.com] (story on my company website) are really quite common even though the underlying cancer has been "cured".
The real cure will come when the body can safely shake off cancer and remain in a state that it can survive long term, whether that means the kidneys remain functional or the immune system is not massiv
Do you need the government to whipe your arse, too (Score:2)
Both paper and water supplies existed long before the government did anything about them. Likewise, there are plenty of third-party verifications for all sorts of privately-run systems, from charities, to food quality, to the real speed of a new computer chip in practice.
Your "If the government didn't do it, no one would" reasoning is somewhere between childishly ignorant and a downri
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:2)
It's nothing but conventional wisdom. I'm not a medical professional or flying-pig researcher, so hopefully nobody will treat my post as a primary source.
And I never said telomeres were the only thing that kept cells from becoming cancerous;
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:4, Funny)
Males will all eventually get prostate cancer; the rates are rising because they aren't dieing of the things we traditionally died of in the past - communicable diseases, war, accident and heart disease.
If we got out and started a good war, fewer people would die of cancer! Think of Iraq as a big anti-cancer crusade.
Yuck (Score:2, Troll)
That's really offensive not funny. 20000 tonnes of depeted uranium have been exploded in Iraq since 2003 and cancers and birth defects are rocketing. The microscopic particles have even travelled as far as the UK resulting in a 400% rise in airborne radioactivity during March2003. Don't joke about 200,000 innocent people (many children in that number) dying, you sick w*nker.
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:4, Insightful)
More people die of cancer because fewer people die of other things. Most (certainly not all) cancer is related to age. We are getting very good at living a very long time compared to what is "natural". The result is that old age disease take a heavier portion of our deaths. We have dramatically slashed the number of deaths to viruses and infection in first world nations.
Even cancer is less of a killer then it used to be. More people get cancer because they live longer, but more people survive cancer then ever. As far as sucking air goes, there has not been a better time to be alive (in terms of life span) so long as you are in a first world nation. It is entirely possible that most kids born in 2000 will live to see 2100. Hell, it is very likely that a large portion of the people who are just now leaving college will live to see 2100.
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:2, Insightful)
You hit the head on the nail. (purposely reversed)
If we didn't do anyhtign that is supposed to be bad ofr you or cause this problem or that we wou
Re:We've been at war with cancer for over 50 years (Score:3, Insightful)
It just SEEMS like it's taking them forever to die.
Re:cancer scares me (Score:2)
Re:cancer scares me (Score:2)
Re:cancer scares me (Score:2)
Re:cancer scares me (Score:2)
Next up: a story about the Cell processor (Score:2, Funny)
Wow (Score:3, Insightful)
Holy shit!
It would be theoretically possible to create a certain protein which targets cell-specific division. Like cancer cells. It wouldn't eradicate the cancerous cells, but it would certainly slow or possibly stop the cells' replication.
Of course, I imagine the devil's in the details...
Re:Wow (Score:2)
Video method? (dumb question) (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Video method? (dumb question) (Score:5, Funny)
Popular Mechanics hasn't covered this one yet as it's only been around for about 400 years
Re:Video method? (dumb question) (Score:2)
Go easy on the guy; he's bravely testing "reverse learning" so we don't have to ourselves.
Re:Video method? (dumb question) (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Video method? (dumb question) (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Video method? (dumb question) (Score:2, Informative)
GFP is a natural protein that was originally found in the genome some sort of deep-sea fish (I forget which), but has been used by biologists for myriad purposes since then. Bascially, it's a protein, but because of the specif
Reminds me of... (Score:3, Funny)
Just like Eminem and Kim?
Reverse (Score:5, Funny)
Eeewww!! Grosss!!
Anybody else also reminded of those "see me eat my hamburger in reverse" videos?
Ob: It's irreversible! (Score:2, Funny)
Like my raincoat!
-:sigma.SB
Two sets of chromosomes? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Two sets of chromosomes? (Score:2)
I doubt it. However, it may be the process the mondocheewans used to produce leeloowallawallabingbangwatermelonsauerkrautdallas multipass.
Re:Two sets of chromosomes? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Two sets of chromosomes? (Score:4, Informative)
What the scientists were mostly concerned with is the fact that this supported the theory that a particular protein directed cell division, at least during a certain phase. The partial reversal of mitosis was just an interesting side effect. The medical and other biological research interest comes in place because now that we have identified this protein and proven that it is indeed the one that regulates mitosis, we can prevent further mitosis by the use of an inhibitor chemical. While this may seem to be a possible cure for cancer, such a discovery would be extremely difficult to put into practice as a pill you take or shot you take. This inhibitor would likely suspend mitosis of ALL cells, breaking down the functioning of many biological processes. Unless a compound is found that preferentially affects cancer cells, which may be possible due to the high division rate in some forms of cancer. This would have little to no effect on cancers caused by a failure in apoptosis. Then again "Cancer" is just a blanket term for a large number of different disorders in which a group of cells grows and divides without control, causing detriment to the rest of the body. Making cancer study mroe difficult is that it often takes failures in several different control systems for a cell to become carcinogenic, as there is a fair bit of redundancy built into these sytems. A "predisposition" to a certain type of cancer often means that one of the inherited genes controlling one arm of the control system is already flawed, so less somatic mutations [nodak.edu] are required before carcinogenesis. Inherited failure in too many of the control pathways would probably result in termination or developmental failure at a very early stage of embryonic development.
Re:Two sets of chromosomes? (Score:2)
If you wanted to build a super muscle you'd probably mess about with its ability to produce actin and myosin and with its nutrient bandwidth -- getting it to be able to hold more glycogen in the firs
Who wants to bet... (Score:2)
Finally! (Score:4, Funny)
nano teck? (Score:2)
Cell Multiplication (Score:2)
Tuttle! Tuttle, Tuttle? Tuttle. (Score:2)
You know, maybe they can reverse that city manager's cell division! Ha ha!
No, wait, let me try again.
In Tuttle, Oklahoma, the cells divide you!
Okay. Maybe there's a reason no one's done a Tuttle joke yet. Although "unfunny" doesn't usually count as a reason on Slashdot.
d00d! (Score:3, Funny)
*Kryten's head explodes*
Re:d00d! (Score:2)
Re:d00d! (Score:2)
Re: d00d! (Score:2)
I think it would be fun to put together a list of the cultural references you have to 'get' in order to understand most of the jokes on Slashdot. RD would of course be way down on the list compared to Star Wars, Star Trek, D&D, and Linux, but it would make for an interesting list.
Re: d00d! (Score:2)
Press Release Promises Flying Cars (Score:5, Informative)
And just in case you're confused like the submitter, there's way more than one protein involved in the cell division process in any eukaryotic cell; Cyclins like Cyclin B are very important, but it's a whole host of proteins that are involved in ushering the cell from G1 to S to G2 to M; assuring alignment, proper exit, arrest upon damage, etc. [One could even argue that the whole point of most cells is to divide, and so every bit of the cell is important and/or participates in some way in the process...]
Re:Press Release Promises Flying Cars (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Press Release Promises Flying Cars (Score:2)
Lets call it spreading confusion then. (Or our esteemed editors spreading confusion in your name.)
Perhaps, but reading summarizations of (important) scientific research which are inaccurate or promise far more than the research has in fact provided is really annoying to those who work in the field. This wasn't as bad as most, but definetly wasn't ideal.
Finally ... (Score:2)
What a weapon (Score:2)
Be real (Score:5, Insightful)
It's not going to reverse cancer either, for the same reason. What it *might* do, if you can determine on a cellular level which cells are cancerous, is halt the growth (assuming it doesn't just start dividing again. It doesn't even say if the DNA recombines, which I doubt it would do.
The real value is that old scientific standby, knowledge. Greater knowledge of what makes a cell tick, what factors trigger when its ready to divide will result in new cures, safer cures, and, of course, new understanding. If we can figure out why a cell divides, we can perhaps block those triggers and stop the division of cells like cancer. Greatly slowing or even stopping cell metabolism and division will be an important part of imposing a long term stasis or hibernation in humans experiencing long space travels to mars and the like. Understanding how to trigger cell reproduction could be one of the most important steps in reviving persons who have cyrogenically frozen themselves, too.
Reverse fertilization?! (Score:2)
Hrm (Score:2)
Frankly (Score:2)
Obligatory VM Smith Quote (Score:2)
Proof at Last! (Score:3, Funny)
OK. Sure, nobody would be around any more to see it, but that's beside the point.
It would also be a great opportunity for Earth to pass on that whole human mistake.
Unbirth (Score:2)
Re:Good news everyone! (Score:2)
Re:Good news everyone! (Score:2)
Re:How long until the religious forbid it? (Score:2)
Re: How long until the religious forbid it? (Score:2)
Re: How long until the religious forbid it? (Score:2)
Re:Stem Cells (Score:2, Informative)
No, because this isn't a complete reversal of cell division. It doesn't somehow "un-replicate" the DNA, it just reverses one step of division in a cell about to divide.
Re:Stem Cells (Score:3, Interesting)
Downs syndrome [ds-health.com] is caused by an extra copy of chromosome 21.
If you have two copies of chromosome 18, you get Trisomy 18. [trisomy.org] Something you don't want. Basically, having extra copies of any chromosome is a 'bad thing'. Having an additional 23 pairs of chromosomes in addition to the normal 23 pairs, is extremely likely to lead to very abnormal cellular function.
While this is a very interesting finding in ways
WOOOH (Score:2)
You could actually destroy a soul - Take that God!!!
Re:WOOOH (Score:2)
Since "life begins at inception" it would be a nice way around that whole "illegal to kill them" thing.
Re:Good news! (Score:2)
On a serious note though, stopping cell division WILL cause a painful death, and you do not need to be a biotechnologist to know that. Just check out how much skin is constantly being lost every day. Red blood cells also only last ~3 months.
Re:Good news! [No reverse aging] (Score:2)
combined cell then splits into four cells again. But in the process the've correct any errors in the DNA
of any one cell.