3D Microscopy of Fossils Embedded in Solid Rock 40
whitehatlurker writes "UCLA is reporting that a process involving Raman spectroscopy and confocal laser scanning microscopy has enabled researchers to take three dimensional images of fossils that have been embedded in solid stone for over 650 million years. It also permits characterization of the chemical structures of the fossil. As the process is non-destructive and can image microscopic fossils (such as bacteria) with (formerly) soft tissues, there is speculation that this could be used on a mission to Mars to examine sediments there for evidence of life."
Martian meteorites (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Martian meteorites (Score:5, Informative)
The UCLA paleobiologist in question, Dr. J. William Schopf [ucla.edu], has already dealt directly [ucla.edu] with the ALH84001 Mars meteorite [nasa.gov] controversy:
Perhaps Dr. Schopf's newer techniques will also be applied to ALH84001 and th
Mars keeps calling Wolf (Score:1)
Re:Martian meteorites (Score:2)
I still cannot believe that Natgeo actually allowed that joke of a program to be broadcasted.
Jurassic Park? (Score:3, Funny)
Nice (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Nice (Score:2, Interesting)
650 million years??!! (Score:3, Funny)
Re: 650 million years??!! (Score:4, Funny)
The higher numbers are virtual years, allowing us to determine the fake dates on all the fossils God created.
Re: Stop bearning false witness (Score:1)
God is a God of Science (Score:1)
I do know that God would never break a law of the universe to enact change. Everything has a scientific basis (which is why we have science to begin with, to explain how God did it).
I take it they found... (Score:1)
Re:650 million years??!! (Score:2)
non-destructive (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:non-destructive (Score:2, Informative)
Re:non-destructive (Score:2)
Further to the other poster, the non-destructiveness of this sort of scanning is a little overplayed. Most of these sorts of systems, particularly the high resolution ones, dump a lot of energy into their sample which causes bleaching and other destructive effects.
question! (Score:1)
What? (Score:1, Funny)
How did the 3D Microscopy of Fossils get embedded in Solid Rock? I guess this proves that 3D Microscopy was around thousands of years ago. Take that, ID fanatics / Evolution fanatics! I'm sure this has grave implications for both sides of the debate...
Re:What? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:What? (Score:2)
Re:What? (Score:1)
Re:"a process involving Raman spectroscopy " (Score:4, Funny)
(BTW, Raman Spectroscopy is named after Sir C V Raman [wikipedia.org], who won the Physics Nobel in 1930. One story about him that the Wikipedia article doesn't (yet?) mention is that he had booked his tickets to Stockholm several months before the Nobel prizes were announced! Another that it does mention is that when he was offered a toast, he replied, being a teetotaller, "Sir, you have seen the Raman effect on alcohol; please do not try to see the alcohol effect on Raman."
Re:"a process involving Raman spectroscopy " (Score:2, Funny)
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Re:"a process involving Raman spectroscopy " (Score:2)
Jeez, science-types.
Can't they just call it "checking to make sure your noodles aren't a funny color" like everyone else?
Is this new? (Score:4, Informative)
Confocal: [olympusmicro.com]
LSCM has been used for ages outside of biology in quality control for chip manufactures.
Laser Scanning Confocal Microscopy improves your Z resolution by eliminating light from above and below the plane of focus. This helps in thick biological samples. Usually you can only image up to 300 microns into a sample (sometimes up to 700 depending on objective and wavelength).
Now, with fossils, I assume that you can only see the very top layer, because light wont penetrate rock that far.
Raman.
The Raman effect was described in 1928. However, robust applications in conjunction with microscopy are somewhat new so I would say that this group is not coming on board to late in the game. Raman with microscopy is pretty cool because you can make chemical maps that correlate to images you have taken. See this paper [nih.gov] .
Anyway , I'm glad to see that they are using some advanced techniques.
Re:Is this new? (Score:3, Informative)
I could make a joke about paleontologists and geologists moving very slowly, but it wouldn't really apply here.
Actually, this is far from the first work using confocal microscopy on fossils. The article carefully points out that this is the firs
Re:Is this new? (Score:1)
You're missing the point that most fossils are almost opaque.
Laser Scanning Confocal Microscopy improves your Z resolution by eliminating light from above and below the plane of focus. This helps in thick biological sam
Quick Primers (Score:3, Informative)
Oblig. Jurassic Park quote (Score:1)
Where's the fun in that?
Postmortem contraction of the posterior neck ligaments. Velociraptor?
Yes, good shape too.
Who invented confocal microscopy? (Score:2, Interesting)
I was quite amazed when I first stumbled upon this [mit.edu] page. Imagine that, Marvin Minsky himself invented this microscope. He invented this microscope, (co-)founded AI, a whole lot more [mit.edu], and had so many students - including Gerald Sussman himself. We live with some really brilliant people today.
Sometimes when you wished "I wish I was there when da Vinci did this", or when someone else did that, well, it's happening here today, at faster rates than ever, and we don't even realise it sometimes. We live in inte