Web Users Judge Sites Instantly 223
Ant writes "This Nature.com news article reports that potential readers can make snap decisions in just 50 milliseconds: 'Like the look of our website? Whatever the answer, the chances are you made your mind up within the first twentieth of a second. A study by researchers in Canada has shown that the snap decisions Internet users make about the quality of a web page have a lasting impact on their opinions...'"
That's Crap (Score:5, Funny)
Re:That's Crap (Score:3, Funny)
Yeah, it took additional 50 ms to close the tab.
Re:That's Crap (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:That's Crap (Score:4, Funny)
Re:That's Crap (Score:3, Insightful)
Slashdotting (Score:2, Funny)
Duh (Score:5, Interesting)
Having all this information at our fingertips is awe-inspiring, yet completely useless if we can't sort through it properly. That's why companies like Google and datamining companies make so much money.
As society and people evolve to adapt to the new technology, we build our "defenses" against bad information. We have so much to go through that unless we are able to filter out bad information that quickly, we'll never get anywhere. Not to mention the fact that in this day and age of spyware/adware, plagiarism, virii and big brother everybody needs to learn what information to avoid.
Re:Duh (Score:5, Funny)
(That said, some of the smartest people I know are dyslexic. And rulebreakers in general.)
Re:Duh (Score:2)
Re:Duh (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Duh (Score:2)
Re:Duh (Score:4, Funny)
Um, you spelled "Consistently" wrong.
Re:Duh (Score:2)
Re:Duh (Score:2)
Re:Duh (Score:2)
What are you doing reading
Re:Duh (Score:5, Funny)
/. Design (Score:3, Funny)
Re:/. Design (Score:2)
I like Slashdot now but the look was a put-off for a long time.
"Like the look of our website?" (Score:5, Funny)
Funny... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Funny... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Funny... (Score:2)
+ they probably do this for geek points, knowing their readers and all..
yeah right... (Score:5, Funny)
Ironically... (Score:3, Funny)
Navigations and ads (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Navigations and ads (Score:5, Insightful)
Another big determiner for me, on major sites anyway, is time-to-load. I'll frequently abort a page before it's even finished if I'm not reading something else.
A long time-to-load probably means a badly configured server, or graphics heavy and often content free site. If a graphics rich site like BBC news [bbc.co.uk] can get it right, why can't anybody else?
Incidentally, 50ms can't be right - very few web sites take less than that to load.
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Re:Navigations and ads (Score:5, Interesting)
Yes, and if you read the article, it's clear that the study does not show what it claims to:
But there is a major flaw. When the image is gone, the participants don't automatically stop making judgements about it.
50 ms (a.k.a. three refreshes at 60 Hz) is long enough for a person to see something and remember basically what it looks like. In fact, your mind will continue to perceive the image well after the display has gone away. This phenomenon is part of what used to be called 'persistence of vision'.
So when the experimenters ask the subject a few seconds later what their impression was, and the subject takes a second or two to indicate a preference, this is not necessarily a 50 ms snap judgement. There are whole seconds during which the image was probably being thought about.
Now, it may be possible that a snap judgement really can be made in 50 ms. But this study does nothing to prove that.
Re:Navigations and ads (Score:2)
i'll often push lots of pages from a search to tabs and i'll look at the faster ones first. the slow ones will probablly finish loading but are far less likely to get actually looked at.
BBC have an unfair advantage, though... (Score:2)
Their good web design and configuration are certainly a big part of it, but, er... they're not exactly on a level playing field with the average website.
If I had this [bbc.co.uk] network available, I reckon I could get a graphics-rich page to load pretty damn quickly... Just looking at those connections is making me get all hot an
Same with high-street shopping (Score:2)
If I go into a clothes shop and within the first 30 seconds can't see in which corner of the store mens' trousers are located (or whatever), then I won't hang around to play search.
Re:Navigations and ads (Score:2)
Hah! (Score:2)
Now it says "Web Users Judge Sites In The Blink of an Eye."
What is this, some kind of trick?
Oh Dear (Score:5, Informative)
The human reaction time is about
Re:Oh Dear (Score:2)
of course, the image retention time on the eye end the lasting photographic imprint on the memory means that the judgement can happen well after the image is gone.
And most absolutely does! Nice catch.
Re:Oh Dear (Score:5, Informative)
Regarding human reaction time, it varies depending on the task, but rarely is less than 100 msec (usually when you expect something to happen, such as runners starting a race). That means some tasks can be completed faster than 250 msec thouch, so that's not a good lower bound to quote if you are trying to debunk something. 50 msec certainly is too fast for anything I'd call "judgement" though, as people usually cannot even press a button that fast in response to an event.
At any rate, the slashdot summary is far from an accurate description of the phenomenon, but since when is that news...
P.S. I am not a psychologist, but I do have a B.S. double in cognitive science.
Re:Oh Dear (Score:2)
I'm reasonably sure that 50ms is too short, at least it is for visual processes involving character recognition; 70ms is an absolute minimum
Re:Oh Dear (Score:3, Insightful)
That claim is as stupid as blinking someone '15*31' for 100ms, and then, when the person is (eventually!) able to say what that is, claim the person does multiplication in his head in 100ms, he does nothing of the sort.
A perfect example being... (Score:3, Interesting)
From now on I will neither go to Jib Jab or even think of using Western Union.
I do not *need* to see their content no matter how good it apparently is.
Re:A perfect example being... (Score:2)
From now on I will neither go to Jib Jab or even think of using Western Union.
Yeah, JibJab aren't the best. I haven't been back since they spammed the unique email address I used to signup to their mailing list.
Re:A perfect example being... (Score:3, Funny)
goatse.cx (Score:4, Funny)
They shut that one down. (Score:5, Funny)
Imagine that. A Slashdot post linking to Goatse and *not* being a troll! =)
They have, however, relocated to goatse.ca [goatse.ca].
Re:They shut that one down. (Score:5, Informative)
Re:They shut that one down. (Score:2)
Re:They shut that one down. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:goatse.cx (Score:2)
The FIRST time? There were others?
Clicking goatse.cx once is understandable. You weren't to know. But, having clicked, and seen, and screamed and discovered just how accurately you were able to find the 'x' in the corner of the window on pure reflex... what on earth possessed you to do it again?
Re:goatse.cx (Score:2)
I did. Watch, it's easy to click goatse.cx with nothing happening:
click here: goatse.cx
Re:goatse.cx (Score:2)
Gee, you'd think the article wasn't any good... (Score:3, Interesting)
Probably a way to take better advice from this is to design your pages so they load *FAST* without too many animations, images, and effects. For instance, the dreaded Flash animation page which presents you with a blank box and a progress meter in the middle ticking up from 1%...which makes me say:
"Hey, I just discovered your site: Tell me WHAT'S loading! Put the name of your site on the page. Direct me to a header page that asks me if I want to see your Flash animation. Put something to read on the page while your dingus loads. Put menus and widgets there, or a graphic, or anything to hold my interest while it loads."
Sites that violate all of the above lose me in *less* than 50 milliseconds.
Re:Gee, you'd think the article wasn't any good... (Score:2)
Another interesting thing is that given that people generally agree if something looks attractive or not, there is an objective reason to say that things are pretty or not. This makes it similar to quorum algorithms in distributed systems: pretty is what most people think is attractive. Ugly is what most people think is not attractive.
Re:Gee, you'd think the article wasn't any good... (Score:2)
There was a very cool research article published recently. It compared reactions of people to a selected set of especially "scary and disgusting" faces of serial killers and other hardcore criminals with their reaction to an morph face generated by averaging from all the delinquents used in the study. Funnily enough they found this face calming and attract
Re:Gee, you'd think the article wasn't any good... (Score:2)
No, that depends on whether you're hungry.
Re:Gee, you'd think the article wasn't any good... (Score:2)
See, thing is, if they didn't put the flash up first, if they routed you to a sensible page first and had a link which said 'check out our cool flash animation', no-one would ever
NOT 50. (Score:2)
200ms okay. 100ms barely. 50ms no.
I know I can seek a picture in a directory filled with JPEGs by holding down space in IrfanView (resulting in a blur of pictures showing up in fullscreen preview, about 4-6 a second) and I find it easily (though always needing to go back, sometimes 10 or so pics, the signal to release space bar travels way slower to my hand than "match" signal from visual input).
24FPS is the minimum animation speed for people not to see separate frames. That's 40ms. At 50ms (20FPS)
Re:Gee, you'd think the article wasn't any good... (Score:2)
Not only should they be displayed fast (at the click of a button!) they should be designed to "load" who and what they represent into your mind fast.
Firefox contributes to the effect (Score:5, Insightful)
Whenever I see that on a website, right there I think to myself, "This is an annoying, and/or low quality website with suspect information on it."
Re:Firefox contributes to the effect (Score:4, Funny)
Whenever I see that on a website, right there I think to myself, "This is an annoying, and/or low quality website with suspect information on it."
Funny, I see that every time I go to cnn.com...
Re:Firefox contributes to the effect (Score:2)
You don't get much scummier than AOL/CNN or eBay though in the mainstream tech world... does Symantec have popups yet?
Re:Fair and balanced (Score:3, Informative)
Snopes (Score:2)
The essential and consistently-excellent Urban Legends Reference Pages [snopes.com] site is the notable exception to this rule. (Okay, it has plenty of suspect information on it, but at least it's marked as such.) It's a shame they have those pop-ups; thankfully, FF1.5 now blocks the fastclick.net that always seemed to get past FF1.0.
Re:Firefox contributes to the effect (Score:2)
Sadly, because of the dotcom era it became publicly acceptable to put konfetti in your newspaper. Having pop-ups was worth three kabillion per view and most of the serious sites drank the kool-aid as well. It was the "Britney Spears" kind of marketing, she's a big star because she's everywhere and she's everywhere because she's a big star. I wish it was a reliable
In other news: (Score:5, Funny)
Looks like someone's been reading... (Score:4, Insightful)
Kind of Ironic (Score:2)
50 ms huh? (Score:2)
Re:50 ms huh? (Score:2)
Agree (Score:2)
Maybe when you are just surfing around (Score:2, Insightful)
http://www.stockmarketgarden.com/ [stockmarketgarden.com]
looks don't always matter (Score:2, Interesting)
It takes less than 50 milliseconds to judge... (Score:2, Interesting)
...this page [goatse.cx]
I think this is one of the very rare times that Mr Goatse is on-topic.
You must be the first person ever... (Score:2)
An alternative interpretation of the data (Score:2)
Suppose that there are subconsciously-obvious visual cues that are generally indicative of worthwhile or worthless websites -- sufficiently obvious that they can be perceived in the space of an eyeblink -- and that, as we expand the corpus of websites to which we have been exposed, we subconsciously condition ourselves over time to recognize these cues.
The fact that lengthier review of these pages
StumbleUpon (Score:2)
Well documented by: (Score:3, Informative)
Nothing to see here. Move along.
Known for Years at Slashdot (Score:5, Funny)
Obviously another waste of government research funds that could be better applied to [insert controversial proposed government project aimed at protecting against terrorism].
By the way, I didn't have a chance to read the article.
Reality? (Score:2)
if there's one thing that turns me off a website.. (Score:2)
A blinding glimpse of the obvious (Score:2)
"good" ads, navigation and easy on eyes... (Score:3, Insightful)
And last, but certainly not least point is that site should be easy on eyes - no eye-bleeding content, no flashing (good looking moving objects are just fine), good balance. I personally think that it is one of main points why Google rocks [tm].
Agreed about this (Score:3, Insightful)
Web Site Peeves (Score:5, Interesting)
Here's my list of things that almost guarantee that I'll leave your site behind, never to look back.
1 - Music - Your taste in music is not mine. Your music sucks!
2 - Pages that don't load - It's usually the page that looks like it has exactly what you were searching for too!
3 - Pages that don't contain the information "as advertised" - you know the ones...you click on a link and it goes to some search page that tries to reset your home page.
4 - Pages that are more banner ad than web page - Get over it. No one wants to see that much advertising.
5 - Anything that blinks - Thank god the W3C deprecated the blink tag
6 - Anything that demands I install a plug-in for "the user experience" - espeically those stupid cursors
7 - Anything that spawns pop ads
8 - Anything that doesn't present easy to read and use navigation (www.thetrueagency.com/true.html is a prime example of this)
9 - Anything that doesn't have a sufficient amount of contrast between the text and the background.
10 - Anything that uses more than 5 different fonts on the same page - Its a web site, not a comic book.
11 - Sites that redirect to another redirect - We get the idea that you move - a lot.
12 - Anything that uses more than 6 colors on the same page - It looks like a circus barfed on your page.
2 cents,
Queen B
Re:Web Site Peeves (Score:3, Informative)
W3C never did any such thing. In order for the BLINK tag to be deprecated, it would have had to be part of the HTML specification at some point in time, which it never was.
That's the good news. The bad news is here [w3.org].
Re:Web Site Peeves (Score:4, Informative)
Set it to false. It unfortunately defaults to true, at least on 1.0.7.
Re:Web Site Peeves (Score:2)
Re:Web Site Peeves (Score:2)
Perhaps even worse are pop-unders, as they present a surprise when closing down your broswer window. It was for this very reason that I stopped reading Dilbert online. At one point, I was even presented with a dialog box which wouldn't go away without clicking on 'OK' (and hence taking me to the advertiser's site).
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Customer Satisfaction (Score:2, Insightful)
It's something that's pushed relatively hard in business classes, management seminars, etc., and can mean the difference between high customer turnout or your b
Law school starts up again "tomorrow" (Score:2, Funny)
Am I the only person who keeps reading that headline as: "Web Site Judges Users Insanity"?
I wish... (Score:3, Funny)
Dialup Users? (Score:2, Insightful)
Many sites don't even get fully loaded, since I leave them in disgust because they are taking forever to load because they have to much crap to load on the page.
Also, any site that refuses to load unless I use flash
Subliminal (Score:2)
Tiny text (Score:2)
Re:Tiny text (Score:2)
Re:colors (Score:2, Funny)
Wrong word choice (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Wrong word choice (Score:2)
Re:Wrong word choice (Score:5, Funny)
Prejudice Saves Time (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Wrong word choice (Score:2, Insightful)
Now see if you can work out the difference between racism and what the poster you're replying to actually wrote, which is "like racism". Go on, have a guess. Even if you take a random stab at it, you've got a 50-50 chance of spotting the key word that you apparently failed to notice when you decided to try to make yourself look smart by "correcting" a perfectly correct post.
Bullshit research... but not impossible. (Score:2)
100ms for the signal to get to the cortex. Discard that, you don't "see" yet. Then while you try to understand it, within next 200ms, simultaneously as the image is being analysed the "first impression" processing takes place, and before you even know what you see, you have a certain feeling towards it.
Most probable solution:
Someone put 'ms' where 's' should go.