View the Moon in 3D on Your Desktop 168
TheBeansprout writes "You can now view the moon in 3D With NASA World Wind with two sets of Clementine data and full placenames. "We have just digested the best of the images, so we can now deliver the moon at 66 feet (20 meters) of resolution" says Patrick Hogan, World Wind project manager at NASA Ames. "This is a first. No one has ever explored our moon in the 3-D interactive environment that World Wind creates," he adds. Download World Wind and view the quick tutorial or tour to interact, and there's some moon screenshots available too. A linux version of World Wind is slated for early 2006."
Great (Score:4, Funny)
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IT BURNS IT BURNS!!!
arghhhhhhhhhhh
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Ah the wounders of the Internet
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http://i.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/p
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check out moon.google.com (Score:3, Informative)
Highly recommended
In the mean time... (Score:2, Interesting)
...while we wait for Linux version, is anyone working on getting this stuff to Celestia [sourceforge.net]? Would rock if the two programs could easily use the same data though.
The screenshots seem nice, but regrettably not really too much more impressive than what you can already do with Celestia. =(
Re:In the mean time... (Score:5, Informative)
WorldWind has two primary advantages over Celestia for exploring the Moon:
* Streamed imagery - data is downloaded as you view, which makes it possible to support extremely high resolution and detailed data that, if downloaded all at once (as would have to be the case with Celestia), would span hundreds of gigabytes.
* Topographic projection - WorldWind supports topographic data for both the Earth and the Moon. This means that if you can see craters and mountains in 3D, which is what really sets it apart from viewing a flat image. Even viewing a flat image projected onto a simple sphere (as in Celestia) is not much more enlightening than viewing a flat photograph of the sphere itself.
Re:In the mean time... (Score:1)
That's what bump mapping and parallax mapping are for.
Merge the two? (Score:2)
A Linux version?! (Score:1, Funny)
Robot dog barks at the 3D flat screen Moon! (Score:1, Funny)
An even closer view (Score:5, Funny)
Re:An even closer view (Score:2, Funny)
What a cheesy joke...
Re:An even closer view (Score:2)
Better then google moon (Score:4, Funny)
Let me just say: Cool!!! (-9F, 451R, -23C, 250K on the average that is...)
Yeah but... (Score:2, Informative)
When you zoom in all the way, is it made of cheese?
Try it. [google.com]
20m resolution and the landing sites... (Score:1)
Re:20m resolution and the landing sites... (Score:4, Insightful)
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Given that the landers took pictures on the way down and the way up, you could probably put together higher-resolution data for the areas around the landing sites; it should be possible to patch these in to the existing datasets, so you could do such things as examine the landing sites from the 'air' and get decent results.
Re:20m resolution and the landing sites... (Score:2)
that is easy (Score:4, Funny)
Re:20m resolution and the landing sites... (Score:5, Informative)
Correct. The largest object that is on the moon is the 14036kg SIVB from Apollo 15. Located at 1.51S 17.48W (or as a WWURI: worldwind://goto/world=Moon&lat=-1.51&lon=-17.48&a lt=13402 ), it isn't actually visible, possibly because that is its impact place, rather than a resting place (so it could well be smashed).
The largest intact objects is the Lunar Rovers, and there's three of them ( Apollo 15's rover (worldwind://goto/world=Moon&lat=26.08&lon=3.66&al t=13402), Apollo 16's rover (worldwind://goto/world=Moon&lat=-8.97&lon=-15.51& alt=13402) and Apollo 17's rover (worldwind://goto/world=Moon&lat=20.17&lon=-30.77& alt=13402), however at about 2 meters in length, on a 20m/pixel basis they are a 10th of a pixel.
So in short, if you're looking for 'evidence', you'll be waiting for higher-res images :)
NeoThermic
P.S. Sorry for the non-clickable URL's, but slashdot strips out the usefull characters, so WWURI's end up as: worldwind:gotoworldMoonlat-151lon-1748alt13402, which is useless
Re:20m resolution and the landing sites... (Score:2)
NeoThermic
Re:20m resolution and the landing sites... (Score:3, Informative)
http://aesp.nasa.okstate.edu/fieldguide/pages/aain dex/home1.html [okstate.edu] has impact point data for the ascent stages.
Re:20m resolution and the landing sites... (Score:2)
Good point, but if they were visible, you would see them by looking where the rovers are (since all rovers were parked a few hundred meteres from the descent stages).
I do find it intresting that the SIVB never left a large enough mark to make an impression on a 20m/pixel view, on the consideration that they weighed some 14,000 kg and (according to wikipedia) were 17.8m in length and a 6.6m
Re:20m resolution and the landing sites... (Score:2, Informative)
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NeoThermic
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Linux and Mac Versions (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Linux and Mac Versions (Score:2, Informative)
Thank you NASA for the Linux version (Score:2, Insightful)
What is even sadder about Google is that it being a Linux shop, having derived so much benefit from the existence of Linux, refuses to actually return anything to the user community.
Re:Thank you NASA for the Linux version (Score:1)
Re:Thank you NASA for the Linux version (Score:1)
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Re:Thank you NASA for the Linux version (Score:1)
Re:Thank you NASA for the Linux version (Score:1)
they should be releasing linux versions at the same time as windows if not before.
with their help desktop linux could take off. when the common joe user sees all this new stuff and it works on linux too it would help ease their fears about linux.
Re:Thank you NASA for the Linux version (Score:2)
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Written in C# ... (Score:2)
It may just be easier to work out the architecture and just do a rewrite.
Re:Thank you NASA for the Linux version (Score:2)
data data data only 22 CDROMs (Score:5, Informative)
http://starbase.jpl.nasa.gov/archive/clem1-l-h-5-
(jpegs are in the browse directories)
or if you have not the got the bandwidth they are only 220 USD from
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/cd-rom/web_store.cgi?c
now if only I could find a the above as a DVD torrent, hmmm
Imperial strikes back (Score:2, Insightful)
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That better?
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Don't know if astronauts are allowed to use (or think in) imperial units. I would suppose risks for a mission decreases if all personnel involved is "brainwashed" to metric.
Developers are forking code to use java and c#! (Score:5, Insightful)
http://mail.worldwindcentral.com/pipermail/worldw
This is nuts! Trying to make one big complicated from work is hard enough, making two versions of it written in different languages is inexplicable! The only real reason hinted at is that Microsoft wouldn't like NASA using Mono for an official application. Does Microsoft really want NASA to use Java just to spite Mono?
Download the code for WorldWind and have a look, then consider porting it to Java/OpenGL/Java3D. Then consider just using Mono with OpenGL bindings. Or consider funding Wine so it supports
Somebody talk some sense into them. Or tell me why I'm wrong, either way someone has to sort this out otherwise it's going to be a massive waste of time and money.
I'm ranting, I know - can anyone else see how backward this is?
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NeoThermic
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First? (Score:5, Funny)
I think Neil Armstrong would have something to say about that.
There are twelve Mysterions walking the Earth (Score:2, Funny)
That just wasn't him that came back!
And the Sea of Tranquility... (Score:1)
Move along now, nothing to see.
--
silas
hobbit
Re:And the Sea of Tranquility... (Score:1)
Pink Floyd (Score:3, Funny)
The vision of Bill Gates finally becomes reality.. (Score:2)
That's no moon ... (Score:2)
"Lord Vader, is our conquest complete?"
"The moon is to be delivered into our hands tonight, my Master"
Odd choice of words there, but whatever. This is teh cool3st. Can't wait for the Linux version!
Screenshots? (Score:1)
So much for actually looking out the window to see what the moon looks like!
Wheeee & WW2D (Score:2, Informative)
A goatse image on the Road Map page within 30minutes of the Slashdotting. You're getting slow dudes :p
I didn't mention in the article, but there is a partial clone of World Wind for Linux done by a community member.See the thread here [nasa.gov] for more info.
People can also join #worldwind on irc.freenode.net. That's probably the best way to get involved with developing and find out what's where.
And lastly...yes, Mars is on the way. Stay tuned.
The "Moon" is a ridiculous liberal myth. (Score:5, Funny)
Documentaries such as Enemy of the State have accurately portrayed the elaborate, byzantine network of surveillance satellites that the liberals have sent into space to spy on law-abiding Americans. Equipped with technology developed by Handgun Control, Inc., these satellites have the ability to detect firearms from hundreds of kilometers up. That's right, neighbors
Of course, this all works fine during the day, but what about at night? Even the liberals can't control the rotation of the Earth to prevent nightfall from setting in (only Joshua was able to ask for that particular favor!) That's where the "moon" comes in. Powered by nuclear reactors, the "moon" is nothing more than an enormous balloon, emitting trillions of candlepower of gun-revealing light. Piloted by key members of the liberal community, the "moon" is strategically moved across the country, pointing out those who dare to make use of their God-given rights at night!
Yes, I know this probably sounds paranoid and preposterous, but consider this. Despite what the revisionist historians tell you, there is no mention of the "moon" anywhere in literature or historical documents -- anywhere -- before 1950. That is when it was initially launched. When President Josef Kennedy, at the State of the Union address, proclaimed "We choose to go to the moon", he may as well have said "We choose to go to the weather balloon." The subsequent faking of a "moon" landing on national TV was the first step in a long history of the erosion of our constitutional rights by leftists in this country. No longer can we hide from our government when the sun goes down.
Re:The "Moon" is a ridiculous liberal myth. (Score:1)
It isn't often I feed trolls, but here goes.... [online-literature.com]
A copy of this book was passed down through my family before it was sold off at a book exchange sometime in the 70's. It was printed in the late 30's.
Of course I understand that the original post may have been sarcastic, but then again, so was my response.
Re:The "Moon" is a ridiculous liberal myth. (Score:2)
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Re:The "Moon" is a ridiculous liberal myth. (Score:3, Informative)
HTH.
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Re:The "Moon" is a ridiculous liberal myth. (Score:3, Funny)
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Several passages on the bible refer to Jesus standing at a point and being able to see all four corners of the earth. Since it's impossible to stand in any position that allows you to see the entire surface area of a sphere, the earth cannot be spherical, and the "moon" cannot orbit it in the way "science" claims.
Instead, the "moon" clearl
Re:The "Moon" is a ridiculous liberal myth. (Score:2)
Funny!
Let me preface what I'm going to say here by saying that I am an atheist, and I believe that the original texts of today's bible were the Wikipedia of their time, and that they were carefully edited over time to come to the version that has been translated into modern bibles.
Let me point out though, that today's Christian interpretation of these texts is that when the bible says that the earth has four corners or other such thi
Re:The "Moon" is a ridiculous liberal myth. (Score:2)
However, there are also those who take a knee-jerk, unconsidered literal reading of the bible, and believe things like the story of Genesis was factually accurate, or that the Earth really is only 4004 years old, often even cherry-picking their "fac
Re:The "Moon" is a ridiculous liberal myth. (Score:2)
And, as we know the collective stupidity of the Creationist/ID crowd is bottomless, presumably so is the amount of outrage they can generate in anyone who can string two thoughts together and understands concepts like "elementary logic".
I think we might have just solved the world's energy problems for all time.
DUPE! (Score:4, Informative)
In fact, a google search for some key text reveals two postings to slashdot alone. http://www.google.com/search?q=he%20may%20as%20we
Re:The "Moon" is a ridiculous liberal myth. (Score:2)
20 METERS? (Score:5, Funny)
I understood the general reason for it - You start with the large cities and work down from there. There is little reason to provide hires data of the Sahara.
But now we have been taken over by THE FRIGGIN' MOON! The data of that desolate celestial body is more accurate than the data of the Netherlands.
Re:20 METERS? (Score:1)
;-) just kidding. I like Oranje. :-)
Re:20 METERS? (Score:3, Insightful)
Hate to break it to you, but the reason their is no imagery for your area is because of _Your Government!_ The US Government has released most of the imagery (non-classified) that it has for the whole country, and thus, we have it in World Wind. I believe New Zealand has also done such a thing. We also have some imagery from South Africa. Sine we're not google, we cant pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to purchase the imagery from Digital Globe and the other
Re:20 METERS? (Score:2)
Where do you get this imagery from? I will be visiting Netherlands and Utrecht and other locations next week (I am from the USA), because I may move there for a job.
I've used google maps, but I'm guessing that's nowhere near as good as 30m.
Re:20 METERS? (Score:2)
Have a lot of fun in Utrecht, it's a very nice city! Actually, if the data were better, you'd be able to see my house at lat=52.0964391273, lon=5.12191902758
Re:20 METERS? (Score:3, Informative)
For what it's worth, the Moon has a surface area of a bit less than forty million square kilometers. The Earth has a surface area of more than five hundred million square kilometers. The Moon's a way easier job. If it makes you feel better, the resolution of the Netherlands (er, images thereof...) is proportionately quite a bit better than the Moon data.
Microsoft Windows only...as usual (Score:1)
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Dark Side of the Moon (Score:2)
I have found that it is not made of cheese, it is made of pixels.
Re:Dark Side of the Moon (Score:2)
My God! It's full of pixels!
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View the moon in 3D with your EYES!!! (Score:2)
Re:View the moon in 3D with your EYES!!! (Score:2)
The pattern of missing rectangular chunks here and there does suggest that perhaps those areas have been intentionally removed from our view. So what are the theories as to why those areas have been deleted from the images? Do the little green men live there, or perhaps there is just evidence of alien civilization there?
Interesting outliers (Score:3, Interesting)
Why this is a first... (Score:2, Funny)
The Moon, only in three dimensions? (Score:3, Funny)
Frylock: What about it?
Inignot: Oh, nothing, it's cute. We have five.
Err: Th... thousand.
Inignot: Yes, five thousand.
Err: Don't question it.
Frylock: Oh, yeah? Well, I only see two.
Inignot: Well, that sounds like a personal problem.
What a pity (Score:2)
Great (Score:3, Funny)
3D Mars on Linux and Windows (Score:2)
Launches from the browser in Linux (386) and windows
http://www.antlersoft.com/demo3d/mars/index.html/ [antlersoft.com]
Re:I wonder (Score:1)
Re:That other celestial body (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Let me be the first to say... (Score:1)
[O yes we have]
(O no you haven't)
British comedy, isn't that Monty Python? "Oh I really like Are you being served", etc, etc.