Solar Sails And Space Propulsion 134
Doomie writes "The Economist has an interesting article about solar sails. It talks about the Russian ICBM that will launch Cosmos 1 (mentioned previously on /.) 'The first craft powered by solar-sail technology to orbit the Earth', and the link between this technology and interplanetary travel. Cosmos 1 will orbit Earth starting on June 21st and could, in theory, reach '200,000kph after three years of acceleration' due to the fact that 'particles of light, or photons, that strike a surface give it a tiny push'. The official homepage of the project has more details." Update: 06/18 18:57 GMT by Z : While space trains would be cool, that wasn't the intent of the story. Changed rails to sails.
Wow (Score:1)
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Cosmos 1 will orbit Earth starting on June 21st and could, in theory, reach '200,000kph after three years of acceleration' due to the fact that 'particles of light, or photons,
Actually, "in theory", the thing will fall apart in months because the mylar is not designed to withstand long-term solar exposure. A spacecraft designed for lasting longer could, in theory, reach those speeds.
Too slow!! (Score:1)
Re:Wow (Score:2, Funny)
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"solar rails" (Score:2)
Space trains?
L. Ron Hubbard was right [google.com]?
Re:"solar rails" (Score:1)
Spelling errors (Score:4, Funny)
Isn't this supposed to be a professional website? I'm not the first poster, I realise, which means I'm certainly not the first person to notice the spelling error. But... hasn't this gone past an editor? I mean... what is going on here. Every post has an error of some kind... spelling, grammar... anything...
I'd offer my services as a proofreader but I don't think I want to be associated with something so consistently shoddy...
Re:Spelling errors (Score:5, Funny)
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Actually I find that typo entertaining. Solar sail, solar rail. Amazing what one character can do to mislead.
Example (Score:1, Funny)
versus
"I helped my uncle jack off a horse"
Re:Spelling errors (Score:2)
Re:Spelling errors (Score:1)
Um..I think this dude was serious. And spot on.
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So let me guess (Score:4, Funny)
GE or GM (Score:3, Funny)
Hmm, I can't seem to find the "Add To Shopping Cart" button on either of those websites. Internet shopping revolution my foot!
Re:So let me guess (Score:2)
I'm going to go ahead and contact White Star lines about rates...
the article (non-free) (Score:5, Informative)
Jun 16th 2005
From The Economist print edition
One small step into orbit may be one giant leap for interplanetary travel
Rick Sternbach, The Planetary Society
ON JUNE 21st, a Russian nuclear submarine is due to launch an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) from beneath the surface of the Barents Sea in the Arctic Ocean. Fortunately, this will not be the opening volley in a global thermonuclear war. Rather, it is intended to open up a new age of space exploration.
The ICBM's payload is Cosmos 1, an experimental spacecraft being launched by the Planetary Society (a space-advocacy group founded in 1980), in conjunction with NPO Lavochkin (a Russian firm which built the craft) and the Makeev Rocket Design Bureau (which modified the ICBM). If the mission, which will cost $4m and has been paid for entirely by private subscription, is successful, Cosmos 1 will become the first craft powered by solar-sail technology to orbit the Earth.
Solar sails rely on the fact that particles of light, or photons, that strike a surface give it a tiny push. Ideally, such sails should be as big as possible, to maximise the amount of sunlight collected, and as reflective as possible, because a photon bouncing off a perfectly reflective sail produces twice as much thrust as one absorbed by a non-reflective sail. Even so, the thrust generated is tiny: a sail with an area of one square kilometre would feel the same force that a kilogram weight exerts on a table on Earth. But there is no air resistance in the vacuum of space, and the sun shines continuously. Slowly but surely, the light-propelled tortoise outruns the rocket-driven hare, reaching 200,000kph after three years of acceleration.
The Planetary Society has details of the forthcoming launch of Cosmos 1. The Makeev Rocket Design Bureau modified the ICBM which will carry the craft.
Solar sails would thus be especially useful for journeys to distant planets or vastly more distant stars, as they do not need to carry any fuel with them. But while they have lived in the imaginations of scientists and science-fiction writers for over a century, their track record in real life has been limited. The Japanese Aerospace Exploration Agency has tested the unfurling of solar sails on sub-orbital rockets, but no one has put solar sails into orbit. Cosmos 1 should change that and, if it works, it will prove the feasibility of the technology for future missions.
Eight triangular sails arranged like the petals of a flower will propel the craft. Each of the sails is 15 metres long, and in total they span 600 square metres--roughly the size of the penalty area on a football pitch. During launch, the sails will be rolled up like so many sleeping bags. Once the ground crew has decided that the craft is in a stable orbit, though, a series of tubular "masts" will be inflated that will unfurl the sails as they expand.
Solar sails require special materials if they are to reflect sunlight efficiently while weighing as little as possible. They must also be able to fold up easily into a small space. Cosmos 1's sails are made from plastic sheets just five microns (millionths of a metre) thick. That is about a quarter of the thickness of a plastic dustbin liner. The plastic in question, Mylar, is coated with aluminium to make it reflective. Mylar is perhaps more familiar from its use in helium-filled party balloons.
If all goes as planned, the spacecraft will go into an orbit that flies over the Earth's poles. Four days later, the sails will be deployed. Once this has happened, the team will monitor Cosmos 1's altitude. The sails are able to swivel slightly, and the ground crew can tilt them individually in order to catch the most sunlight. The resulting increase in the altitude of the orbit will indicate that the sails are indeed feeling the sun's push.
Provided all this works well, the team will then try one last experiment. In order to use solar sails to travel to the outer planets, where the sun's l
Metric conversion (Score:2, Funny)
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Re:the article (non-free) (Score:1)
Ideally, such sails should be as big as possible, to maximise the amount of sunlight collected, and as reflective as possible, because a photon bouncing off a perfectly reflective sail produces twice as much thrust as one absorbed by a non-reflective sail.
So, the photon hits the sail with the speed of light. And leaves the sail again at the speed of light. The energy transfered to the sail from this action comes from ..... where???
Re:the article (non-free) (Score:2, Informative)
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momentum_of_particle + 0
and after its:
-momentum_of_particle + 2*momentum_of_particle
Where 2*momentum_of_particle is now in the sail.
Both before and after have the same momentum.
Re:Learn some basic physics (Score:2)
Re:Learn some basic physics (Score:2)
Imagine you just threw cricket balls at the ship when it was stationary and it was a perfectly elastic collision. The balls would bounce off at the same speed and the ship would gain speed.
However now imagine you threw the cricket balls at a moving ship. Our cricket balls would bounce back at a slower speed. When it comes to photons, this would be the doppler effect and cause the wavelength to increase.
I fail to see however why the wavelength would decrease when we consider the ship to be station
Re:Learn some basic physics (Score:1, Informative)
See you don't understand how light is actually reflected. The photons are first absorbed which means that the e
WFT? (Score:1, Insightful)
Not all of us
Re:WFT? (Score:3, Funny)
Rails and Sails (Score:1, Informative)
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Otherwise, about the only way that I can imagine this working, is if you use the sail for propulsion during a run, possibly a reach, and expect that at best, you use the sail for slight control during a beat(perhaps as a rudder would).
Re:Rails and Sails (Score:2)
More complex mirror configuration (light reflecting off more than one mirror) could be used to mitigate this effect. However, solar pressure is still very small compared to the enormous kinetic energy such a sail would build over a period of months or years. Don't expect these things to spot an asteroid, veer out of the path of danger, and then get right b
Re:Rails and Sails (Score:2)
If you rolled up the sail at this point, you would pass through the same point one rev later...but if you keep it positioned, you will gradually spiral inward.
rj
Re:Rails and Sails (Score:2)
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Yes, it sounds weird, but it works. And it gets weirder: the longer you apply a retarding force backward along the flight path, the faster you go forward. Practically everything about orbi
Re:Rails and Sails (Score:2)
be able to "tack" in space, providing that their
"keel (or daggerboard)" can "dig into" the dark
matter of space.
I can almost picture a swarm of robotic "sailors"
keeping the sail in proper "trim".
Of course, with a top speed of 0.1c, any trip
will be a rather long one. Once they have reached
their destination, hopefully their "sea anchor"
will function properly.
Re:Rails and Sails (Score:2)
Re:Rails and Sails (Score:2)
The acceleration produced by a sail is always (ignoring sail imperfections) normal to the sail surface. As a result, solar sails are able to maneuver by varying the angle of between the sail plane and the incident sunlight. Since a solar sail has the ability to produce an acceleration component in the direction of its orbit velocity vector, it can manipulate its orbit.
There's a very nice Java applet that simulates solar sail orbit dynamics available here [ec-lille.fr], if you want to play around with maneuveri
Re:Rails and Sails (Score:2)
Re:Rails and Sails (Score:3, Interesting)
More importantly, you have solar gravity pulling you in the exact opposite direction of the photon pressure. So, to go towards the sun, just use the solar sail to kill some of your orbital momentum. This also works around smaller bodies such as the earth, assuming you already are in orbit (which is a given for the Cosmos I satellite).
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Obligitary star trek reference (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Obligitary star trek reference (Score:1)
"Come on down to Tachyon Eddy's for the best deals on slightly-used warp drives this side of Borg space!"
~UP
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They were trying to get power, not momentum. It'd be stupid for them to waste their time trying to make their ship go sublight when their life support is failing.
It was called a 'sail' to imply they going to build a big sheet of material to capture solar energy.
Re:Obligitary star trek reference (Score:2)
"Is he, is he..." - Arthur
So.... (Score:1)
What about all the space debris that will rip the hell out of the sail?
I don't think that the sail will last anymore than someone throwing a paper airplane in the air and have a firing squad shoot at it until their is no more. Lets see that plane fly for 4 years
Re:So.... (Score:2)
Besides this is a validation and verification mission. If it gets punctured by debris, that's a new lesson learned.
Re:So.... (Score:1)
Majestic (Score:2)
Re:Majestic (Score:2)
Indeed. And as far as I'm concerned the only thing needed is a good life support plan. (Yeah, I know, Duh!
The problem I see now is that $BIG_CORPS don't really see space as profitable yet. If they did we'd almost certainly have a wa
Re:Majestic (Score:2)
Re:Majestic (Score:1)
[Future TV Show]
"Welcome to Pimp My Starship! Today we're going to take a guy with and old model 3623827 ship and make it so it's 'All that!'"
[/Future TV Show]
*watches karma go up in flam
Jack Vance: "Sail 25" (Score:2, Interesting)
Its about a training voyage with six cadets and a instructor who thorougly trains his cadets by making the voyage a living nightmare of failures, as well as making sure they make it on their own ( as he's already seen to it the radio does not work, and he's let it be known very clear to the cadets he expects to die in space - the ship is theirs to navigate using the forces of nat
More info on Cosmos 1 (Score:5, Informative)
Countdown to First Solar Sail Spacecraft
The Planetary Society's Cosmos 1 [planetary.org], the first spacecraft to be propelled by a solar sail [wikipedia.org], has just been loaded onto a converted ICBM in preparation for its launch [wired.com] from a Russian submarine this Tuesday, June 21. This is the first mission by a non-profit space advocacy group and is being funded by private donations. Project Operations Assistant Emily Lakdawalla is posting a running description of events on the official blog [planetary.org]. Videos and animations [planetary.org] describing the mission are available, including commentary from the Planetary Society's Vice President, Bill Nye the Science Guy. Downloadable print-out model kits [spacecraftkits.com] are also available.
One of the many neat things about this project is that if the first phase of regular solar sailing is successful, they'll run a later experiment with focusing a microwave beam on the sail to see how well it propels the craft. I wish the Planetary Society the best in this high-risk endeavour.
Re:More info on Cosmos 1 (Score:1)
PS: I submitted the story yesterday. First story that I've ever submitted, btw
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Rails? Hmmm, interesting. (Score:2, Offtopic)
Once spaceborn, the vehicle could deploy its deep-space propulsion, such as solar sails or ion drive.
Re:Rails? Hmmm, interesting. (Score:1)
I read a scientific article about it [amazon.com] once.
Re:Rails? Hmmm, interesting. (Score:1)
Stupid mods! (Score:2)
How is that off-topic?
Yeesh.
Re:Rails? Hmmm, interesting. (Score:4, Informative)
However, for Earth, you need a take off velocity of at least 7 miles/second (or 25,000 miles/hour). And that doesn't take into air friction. Assuming you could build such an aerodynamic capsule, you would need a considerable acceleration for a period of the launch phase.
To minimize the amount of energy you need to use, you'd want to travel straight up, and to generate enough energy you would probably have to burn gallons of hydrocarbons or run a whole chain of nuclear reactors. Since energy is most efficient when you use the least number of conversion stages, you really end up with a vertical rocket launch with solid or liquid fuel.
Re:Rails? Hmmm, interesting. (Score:2)
Re:Rails? Hmmm, interesting. (Score:2)
Quirks and Quarks (Score:5, Interesting)
Check out this week's Quirks and Quarks podcast [www.cbc.ca], which covers the same topic. They interview the Planitary Society project manager about the upcoming solar sail launch.
While I'm at it, they've also got a segment on quantum cryptography this week which is kind of interesting.
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conservation of energy ? (Score:1)
Clearly the energy of the reflected photon must be less than the incident photon.
Since the energy of the photon is inversely proportional to the frequency, does the frequency of the light change after it is reflected ?
Re:conservation of energy ? (Score:1)
Anyway yes the frequency does change after the satellite gets push along slightly the reflected photon will have a slightly longer wavelength and therefore energy transfer.
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Well where do you THINK the energy comes from, the magical Alterverse? Yes, the frequency of the photon changes. And the energy is directly proportional to the frequency, not inversely.
Time to patent solar sails. (Score:1)
Re:Time to patent solar sails. (Score:2, Funny)
but, but.. (Score:1)
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Orbiting? (Score:2, Interesting)
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Re:but, but.. (Score:2)
Of course stopping at another star is still a bit tricky. Robert Forward proposed detaching part of the sail and using it to reflect the beam back onto the rest, Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle just had the probe diving in very close to the star. I've also seen the suggestion of using the galactic magnetic field to take you around the back
Orbital return (Score:1)
A great idea. (Score:2)
Sure, sure I definitely read the article
Looks mighty dopey from a furst estimate (Score:2)
Looks mighty dopey... (Score:2)
Their website says the acceleration is ~ .0005 m/s/s, which is 5/100,000 of a g (not a G), and the 'g' referred to here is not a gram, but the acceleration due to gravity at the Earth's surface, 9.8 m/s/s. That's very impressive, considering that acceleration could continue for as long as the sun keeps shining, which is more than enough time to lift something out of Earth orbit. Assuming the craft doesn't trade any kinetic for gravitational potential energ
Re:Looks mighty dopey... (Score:2)
Re:200,000kph after three years (Score:3, Funny)
And you know what? when the sail decelerates, they really suck.
Sorry...
Re:200,000kph after three years (Score:2)
Re:200,000kph after three years (Score:2, Informative)
http://www.planetary.org/solarsail/timeline.html [planetary.org]
The flight of Cosmos 1 will not last long. Within a month the mylar sails will begin to degrade in the harsh sunlight, and the tubes supporting the blades will be losing pressure. It is possible that by this time the spacecraft will have risen to a high enough orbit that it will remain there, forever orbit
Re:I think the important question here is... (Score:2)
Re:Sailing Away (Score:2)
Any hoe, USA GOVT wont allow nasa to give any $$$ to russia so if russia hasnt got the cash what do you expect? The mafia to fund it?
OT: yes i know russia is spending billions in secret underground/mountain NORAD type cities with capacities for 50000+ people.
Which leads me to ask why any nation really 'prepares for ww3' and still economicaly deals with the enemy? -dont trust china-
Re:Sailing Away (Score:2)
Re:Sailing Away (Score:2)
100% Flamebait
TrollMods can't deny that Russia is having our cake and eating it too.
Re:Sailing Away (Score:2)
100% Flamebait
Which is the sacred cow here, TrollMods? Is it NASA, the ISS, the Shuttles, or Russia? Or are you so stupid that you're afraid I'm criticizing solar sails, or internationalized space research? Without any rebuttal, just anonymous TrollMod'ing, it's impossible to tell.