First Successful Cell Transplant Cures Diabetes 271
Iphtashu Fitz writes "A few months ago the 50th anniversary of the first organ transplant was celebrated. Over those 50 years surgeons have learned how to sucessfully transplant many organs and other body parts. Now it seems that Japanese surgeons have added yet another successful transplant to the list, having recently transplanted insulin-generating cells, known as Islets of Langerhans from a mother to her diabetic daughter. Three months after the surgery both mother and daughter appear to be completely healthy. Although the daughter no longer needs insulin she still needs to take powerful drugs to keep her immune system from rejecting the new cells. Researchers also still don't know if this procedure would work in many people with type 1 diabetes since in many of those cases their own immune system has destroyed their Islet cells."
Japanese to cure diabetes (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Japanese to cure diabetes (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Japanese to cure diabetes (Score:5, Funny)
I'd be the same. If, say, a group of scientists from New Zealand cured a life-dehabilitating desease I had then I'd quite graciously say "Thanks, Mate. May all your girlfriends bear fine wool".
(ahem, sorry for any easily offended new zealanders out there)
Re:Japanese to cure diabetes (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Japanese to cure diabetes (Score:2)
Re:Japanese to cure diabetes (Score:2)
But yeah it means "thank you very much" quite formally actually.
Re:Japanese to cure diabetes (Score:2)
Probably the best one would have been "xiexie", which my brother assures me means "thanks mate" in Mandorin. So that would make it "Xiexie; arigatoo gozaimasu; thanks a lot
Re:Japanese to cure diabetes (Score:2, Funny)
-m
Re:Japanese to cure diabetes (Score:2)
Re:Cure worse than condition still? (Score:5, Informative)
No. Trust me on this. What sucks about diabetes is the high likelyhood of losing your vision, pancreas, liver, feet, or even your dick.
A little jab in the stomache with a needle is nothing to fear compared to what high blood sugar does to your body over the long haul.
Re:Cure worse than condition still? (Score:2, Insightful)
Sounds like. With this. You are changine one problem for another. Drugs that supress the amune system on rejection have there own nightmare.
Be nice for a total cure of this problem for both type 1 & 2.
Future of treatment? (Score:5, Insightful)
Unfortunately, the future is the past in this case (Score:5, Informative)
This isn't new, unfortunately. Islet cell transplants have been happening for many years now. The first cases I heard of were in Russia, using islet cells from aborted foetuses (I gather such things are more readily available in Russia). But they've been doing it on a small scale in the UK for years, too, with success.
I'm not sure why we haven't seen this become a mainstream solution yet, but personally, I'm not holding my breath for any of the diabetes solutions that get mentioned by news reporters regularly. News services seem to like to this story so much that they declare a new "cure" each year... except that it'll be years before most people get it, if they get it.
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Re:Future of treatment? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Future of treatment? (Score:5, Informative)
On the insulin side, we have a wide range of available, from very rapid acting ( taking effect within 10 minutes to provide "bolus" (peak) insulin for when you eat) to very long acting (lasting up to 24 hours to provide "basal" (background) insulin). Using different insulins diabetics can get a remarkably precise control with little effort.
As for hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) leading to diabetic coma, this is easily avoided by any diabetic with even "rough" control due to the fact that they will readily feel blood sugar levels dropping far in advance of danger and a quick ingestion of some sweet substance will solve the problem in a matter of a couple of minutes - actually, it's quite remarkable how quickly the sugar is absorbed and works it's magic.
It's not hard these days to keep your diabetes in fair control, and within or close to the "normal" range that will keep problems later in life at bay. Diabetes is in essence a very treatable and predicatble ailment once detected.
Detecting it in the first place is probably the biggest problem these days - so many people don't recognize the symptoms...
a) Excessive thirst and urination - this is the biggie, classic and very telling symptom. Your body is working hard trying to flush itself, but it can't keep up.
b) Tiredness - the higher your BG gets, the more tired you get
c) Weight loss, dehydration.
d) Sweet fruity smell on the breath - your body is having to break down fats to get at sugars and as a result it's producing some pretty nasty by products - your getting keto acidosis. At this point you are extremely ill and must get to a doctor very quickly. I mean VERY quickly... if you delay then you may fall into a coma, your brain will swell, and rather soon, you will die.
People often leave it much to late, not getting diagnosed until they are in a state of acidosis - I know, I did - almost too late, but once diagnosed, a couple of days in a hospital and some home visits by a diabetes nurse educator I was fine - 10 years later I'm still fine, and I expect to still be fine for another 40 to 50 years at least.
Re:Future of treatment? (Score:2)
Tell that to my friend (Score:2)
As for the rejection medicine... I'd assume that if you missed that then you would more likely reject the organ, and then be back to square 1. But square 1 is better than dead.
Re:Future of treatment? (Score:2, Interesting)
I agree with you that diabetics learn very quickly how much insulin they need.
Really, sometimes they can feel their blood sugar level without need to test it. But in some cases, they can suffer extreme blood sugar levels because of stress, anxiety or nervousness generated by problems or the like. In these cases is when diabetes could be a very dangerous illness.
Re:Future of treatment? (Score:5, Informative)
(talking purely about type I diabetes [wikipedia.org] here)
Yeah, you're exactly correct except for the "just" word ;-). Speaking as a type I diabetic, with a type I brother and a type II stepfather and a type II stepbrother - keeping control of the blood sugar levels can be a bitch. Regardless of whether you're injecting insulin or not.
I wouldn't consider a "treatment" involving immunosuppressant drugs unless my blood sugar levels were really severely out of control (and I'd tried a variety of alternatives). Anti-rejection drugs suck.
I was much more excited about the Glucowatch [glucowatch.com] product (nice asynchronous, albeit approximate, blood sugar monitoring tool), but I first heard about it a couple of years ago and still haven't seen any sign of them being available in Australia. Motherfuckers.
In fact, the Glucowatch website doesn't seem to have been updated in about a year. Hmmm. I wonder what's happening with them. I hope they get their shit together at some time, as the Glucowatch could be a really really useful tool.
Re:Future of treatment? (Score:2)
Re:Future of treatment? (Score:5, Interesting)
At first we were really excited about the GlucoWatch until we looked more deeply into it. It was pretty disappointing. Supplies for it are very expensive. By contrast, insulin pump therapy supplies are inexpensive. (All of the various brands of pumps we looked at ranged between $5,500 and $6,000.) I was also not real impressed by the accuracy of the GlucoWatch.
Pump therapy is good and getting better. Our hospital has told us that within the year that the MiniMed [minimed.com] pump (Medtronics) will have an upgrade that can monitor BG levels and alert you if they are falling (or rising). They are supposed to already be in clinical trials.
The pump trainer (employed by the hospital) also said that in a generation or so of pump, they expect to have a closed loop system where the pump will adjust your insulin dose without user interaction for rising BG, and alert you for falling BG.
Even the current generation pumps (which we have in hand, but have not yet installed batteries nor had the 24 hour hospital stay to begin using) have a radio link between the glucometer and the pump. If you are taking BG readings frequently enough, the pump always knows your BG levels and can automatically suggest a bolus.
We were very impressed by the sophistication of the current pumps. The fact that MiniMed often has a $200 yearly upgrade was a major selling point for their particular brand.
Pumps are supposedly bullet proof (and water proof), but I wouldn't want to test this.
Re:Future of treatment? (Score:4, Insightful)
In any case, many diabetics do not monitor themselves properly. They allow their blood sugar to consistently run too high, which in the long term can cause kidney failure, foot amputation, blindness and a host of other problems. Even diabetics that do monitor their blood sugar properly risk these things.
My brother has had a much easier time since he switched from injections to an insulin pump. He still has to do the tests, but when you're out in public, a finger prick test can be done fairly privatly, while injected yourself in the stomach cannot. With the pump, he hits some buttons on it and he's done.
I'm not sure that the rejection pills would be better, since I don't really know much about them. But I do know that diabetes is not at all the "I just take a shot" most people think it is.
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Re:Future of treatment? (Score:5, Insightful)
FYI, I am diabetic. Trading regular doses of a anti-rejection drugs for the constant maintenance of my blood sugar all day every day is a trade I would happily make. I realize that you are not diabetic and cannot really understand what it is like. Diabetes is not a diseas that you "treat" with periodic injections of insulin. Because your body cannot regulate your blood sugar you have to do it yourself with both diet and medication, all day, every day. The consequences of failure can be fatal. Even if you do a good job, diabetes will almost certainly reduce your lifespan by more than 10 years. The consequences of failure also include blindness, kidney failure, the loss of limbs and heart disease. Yes, it is a trade I would make.
Re:Future of treatment? (Score:2, Interesting)
With the right nutrition and excersize (as well as avoiding too much glucose at once), people can manage type 2 and have a fairly normal life.
In fact, lose enough weight and often type 2 (a.k.a. "adult onset") diabetes symptoms might go away entirely in some cases.
So if you have any symptoms of diabetes or even hypo
Re:Future of treatment? (Score:3, Insightful)
Everyone dies of something, get over it.
That being said; immunosuppressive drugs have a goodly list of potential complications of their very own. They aren't a panacea.
The BBC article from Tuesdeay (Score:3, Informative)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4459523.stm
And, here's a related one from last month:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4332163
Thought it has the same conclusion
Awesome, but. . . . (Score:4, Insightful)
Still valuable research, no doubt.
Re:Awesome, but. . . . (Score:5, Interesting)
Taking those tough medication after organ transplants does not exactly cheer one up, but the dose gets reduced, over time. Eventuelly you can live without the medication.
For diabetes, that isn't the case, afaik.
Re:Awesome, but. . . . (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Awesome, but. . . . (Score:2)
Taking insulin is no problem really, and it's only really new diabetics who worry about thier blood glucose too much. It only takes a few months before you just "know" what your BG is doing, and almost automatically adjust to suit, constant BG testing is not something that the majority of diabetics do for long.
I've been Type 1 for 10 years now, most of the time I don't even conciously know how much insulin I take - it just comes down to dialling (with a pen inject
Re:Awesome, but. . . . (Score:2)
My mother had a kidney transplant and has been on anti-rejection drugs for the last ten years or so. I beg to differ with your comment. Yes, the dosage has dropped some, but she's also had to switch medications, deal with all kinds of side effects (osteoporosis and hair loss due to the steroids you take to suppress the immune system, for
Not in my experience (Score:5, Interesting)
I am a physician, and I've never heard of people being completely weaned from drugs. If they were, they would run the risk of their immune system reasserting itself big and ugly, possibly resulting in an episode of acute rejection (which is no joke). I can see them trying to taper the dose down a bit, but immunosuppressive therapy remains the standard of care.
If this is something new, I'd love to see it happen, because those drugs are very problematic for patients. They not only leave you susceptible to common infections, but they also increase your risk for cancers.
Never underestimate how many potential cancers your immune system finds and kills early. You should see some of the post-transplant patients who have spent time in the sun... they grow skin cancers like it's their job.
Re:Not in my experience (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Not in my experience (Score:2)
I'm sure there is some anecdotal evidence that withdrawing immunosuppressives can be done, just as there are people seemingly immune to HIV... human genetic variation makes almost anything possible. People transplanting without drugs is interesting, but I don't know how feasible it is for large numbers of patients.
I also wonder how they'd test that on enough people. As scarce as transplanted organs are, it almost seems foolhardy to do this on a large scale, at leas
Re:Not in my experience (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Awesome, but. . . . (Score:2)
The article said that in type 1 diabities, it is the immune system that attacks the pancreas. The cause of the disease is not the lack of insulin, it is the immune system destroying the pancreas.
I would agree with the basic premise. Supressing the immune system probably comes with many more problems. Those people don't want to get sick, they probably have to be more careful about being exposed to germs.
Re:Awesome, but. . . . (Score:2, Interesting)
First implemented in Canada (Score:5, Informative)
Re:First implemented in Canada (Score:5, Insightful)
Read more [chicagotribune.com]
The Japanese case is the first to be performed successfully using cells from a living donor. Previous cases involved donors who had died or who used their own reprocessed cells, which are injected back into their body.
Will the life quality be better or worse? (Score:4, Insightful)
This means she has switched from one type of life-long medication to another type of life-long medication. Is this really a change for the better?
Re:Will the life quality be better or worse? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Will the life quality be better or worse? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Will the life quality be better or worse? (Score:3, Informative)
In 10 years I have *never* blacked out due to hypoglycemia, nor have I ever needed help to recover, if I did, then that would be a big wakeup call to get things back on track. And my control over the last 10 years is nothing to write home about.
I'd be interested to know what sort of insulin regime you are both on, and what lifestyles you have.
I have a very irregular lifestyle, I work for m
Re:Will the life quality be better or worse? (Score:2)
Re:Will the life quality be better or worse? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Will the life quality be better or worse? (Score:2, Flamebait)
Both have talked about shortened lifespans and infertility in the past. Would this new treatment help in these areas?
Re:Will the life quality be better or worse? (Score:3, Informative)
What people need to grasp though is that it's not TAKING the pills, it's what they do to you. I've been on them for close to three years, and I haven't had any major problems, but I could give you a list of minor ones. The most major I suppose was a period of anemia and leukopenia coupled with severe weight loss due to appetite loss. For that
Re:Will the life quality be better or worse? (Score:5, Interesting)
The immunosupressants means that he has to go to the hospital any time he gets a bad cold, infections are a constant problem and fear, and the prednisone (anti-inflammatory steroid that all recipients have to take alongside the immunosupressants for the rest of their lives) causes bloat, loss of muscle mass, sleeplessness, and the "shakes". That's just part of the story.
In his case the choice was clear: dialysis sucks bigtime. But if it was me and the choice was insulin vs. the drugs transplant recipients have to take, I'd stick with the insulin, no contest.
It all comes down to a personal decision, but her choice is not the one I would have made; I wonder if she really knew what she was in for? I certainly wish her luck. At least in her case rejection probably just means that she'll have to go back to the insulin.
Re:Will the life quality be better or worse? (Score:2)
I think the best advancement in quality of life will be when when we have truly effective automated insulin pumps.
I'm not an expert in the field, but AFAIK you can have infusion pumps implanted under your skin which continuously administrate the drug. Such pumps do not have effective feedback systems, yet, so a patient has both to "adjust" to his/her pump (i.e. take in appropriate amounts of sugar) and to supplement it with injections.
In the very near future, I imagine there will be servo pumps that will
Stem cells. (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Stem cells. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:not really (Score:2)
Several months ago (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Asking for money?? (Score:5, Informative)
If you read on to the bottom of the wikipedia article:
And following that link for Denise Faustman, you'll see that she is noted for transplanting islet cells.
So, I don't think joinlee.org [joinleenow.org] would be such a bad place to donate to.
Re:Asking for money?? (Score:2)
As a general rule of thumb, I don't donate to organizations. I'd rather give the money directly to who it helps. When I was younger, I gave money to a TV advertisment for saving the children in Africa, the one where they cliam that "for the cost of a cup of coffee a day, you can feed a child in Africa". I was fumed when I found out that most of the money went to administrative costs, not to feed children. I would have done better findi
Re:Asking for money?? (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm not a huge fan of Iacocca, but he's probably got juge amounts of money near the end of his life, is broken up about his wife's death, and wants to use that money to make sure others don't g
What is next? (Score:4, Interesting)
Is the pancreas like the liver, that if you take part out of a living human, transplant it in another person, both livers will grow back to their normal size. Will that happen with a pancreas, or is the mother stuck with 50% of her pancreas.
Nor is it clear whether the procedure would be as effective in people, like most of those with type 1 diabetes, whose own immune cells have destroyed their insulin-producing pancreatic cells.
How does this happen? Is this a problem with the immune system, or is it a problem with the pancreas?
If the immune system is responsible for the damage to the pancreas, then transplants won't work. We need to find out the cause.
If the problem is with the pancreas, I think a far more effective treatment will be genetic therapy. Since genes control how much of a protien or enzyme is made, if the gene is damaged due to mutation or any reason, that tissue might not function normally. If we can advance gene therapy, we can replace the malfunctioning DNA with working DNA.
I was told in high school health class that diabities is almost 100% due to diet or lack of exersize. I am glad to see we are getting better reasons than "he's fat and does not exersize, so that is why he got sick".
Re:What is next? (Score:2, Informative)
2. Type I diabetes mellitus is an autoimmune disease. For some reason, the immune cells that would normally be destroyed because they are targeted towards these
Re:What is next? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:What is next? (Score:2)
Re:What is next? (Score:2)
To brother-post by the AC:
As i try to think back to my physiology 210 class, i think she might need to take something for digestion (much of the digestive enzymes are produced by the spleen, for breakdown in your small intestine).
Mmmh... Not exactly. The stomach produces a few enzymes helping with protein breakdown, but the pancreas does the most: fat-, sugar- and protein-digesting enzymes are all secreted by it. The spleen is mostly an immunological and hemopoietic organ (contributes to recycling old b
Re:What is next? (Score:2)
Right, and you can only get AIDS if you're gay.
My best friend has diabetes that was diagnosed when he was 18. He biked the NYC 60-odd mile race every year since he was 14, was a member of the Harvard crew team, and ate better than anyone I've ever met. I always felt it unfair that he should
Re:What is next? (Score:2)
Yeah, and they're just factors. If you have a family history of Type 2 diabetes you can develop it while being a fit, slim, health-food nut.
Type 2 is by far the more common form (something like 90% of all diabetics), so it's not surprising that people tend to get the lines between the two slightly blurred.
Re:What is next? (Score:2)
How likely is that? Looking at wikipedia, it seems that the majority of type II diabetes sufferers are obese. It also mentions that "Other research shows that type 2 diabetes causes obesity."
Re:What is next? (Score:2)
Well yeah, but if you have a family history of Type 2 you would be even more foolish than most people to not being carefully fit and slim, while eathing a healthy diet. (I don't use health food because some of what is called "health foods" are bad for you)
Even if you don't have a family history if you are a fat, fast food only, coach potato you are in danger of Type 2 diabetes.
There are controlable and uncontrollable. You cannot control your genetics (at least not yet, and I'm not hopeful for my lifetim
This is actually not new. (Score:3, Interesting)
I saw someone post something about whether this would actually change quality of life, and I can say from seeing those close to me, yes. My father died of pancratic cancer, and the cancer caused type-II diabeties, and the ammount of effort that had to be put into regulating insulin levels, taking your shots, checking your blood, it all adds up. To just take a pill in the morning instead is considerably easier.
Personally, I wouldn't like having to check my blood 3 times a day, and give myself injections on top of that. I'm sure most other people wouldn't like that either, to have that replaced by a pill would be a god send.
It is something that hits close to home, and I'm sure that many of you
Probably only relevant for a few (Score:2, Informative)
The situation is different if the diabetes is not well regulated, for instance if the kidneys have been destroyed. In the latter case, when a kidney transplant necessitates immunosuppressants anyway, I believe it is quite common to also implant an extra pancreas (hopefully from a d
insulin NOT medication (Score:4, Interesting)
Japanese weren't the first (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/artic/pancreatic_isl et_transplantation_niddk.htm
"Scientists have made many advances in islet transplantation over the past 25 years. Dr. James Shapiro and colleagues at the University of Alberta in Edmonton, Canada, have used a new procedure called the Edmonton Protocol to treat eight patients with type 1 diabetes. These patients have been completely freed from insulin injections since the first transplant in mid-1999."
and:
http://cpmcnet.columbia.edu/dept/cs/programs/pancr eas/research.html
"The University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada was the first group to successfully maintain islet transplants using islets from two organ donors and a new steroid free immunosuppressive regimen."
and:
http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/pancreaticis let/
"Scientists have made many advances in islet transplantation in recent years. Since reporting their findings in the June 2000 issue of the New England Journal of Medicine, researchers at the University of Alberta in Edmonton, Canada, have continued to use a procedure called the Edmonton protocol to transplant pancreatic islets into people with type 1 diabetes. A multicenter clinical trial of the Edmonton protocol for islet transplantation is currently under way, and results will be announced in several years. According to the Immune Tolerance Network (ITN), as of June 2003, about 50 percent of the patients have remained insulin-free up to 1 year after receiving a transplant. A clinical trial of the Edmonton protocol is also being conducted by the ITN, funded by the National Institutes of Health and the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation International."
Still... an amazing area of research and one hopes it leads to a more generally available cure for diabetes (without all the immunosuppresive side effects).
Re:Japanese weren't the first (Score:2)
Re:Japanese weren't the first (Score:2)
One slight concern..... (Score:3, Interesting)
If these drugs are suppressing her immune system then it could make her more at risk to other illnesses. I used to know someone who had a kidney transplant and he lived a reasonably normal life for 10+ years. But he died because the drugs to suppress his immune system meant that he caught an infection he was unable to fight off.:(
This case is unique (Score:4, Informative)
Immuno Suppressents are Good!! (Score:4, Informative)
The short answer is No. Immuno-suppressents are not as bad as they sound. Taking them is no big deal.
I've been on them for 4 years, since my kidney transplant. Contrary to popular belief they do not make you much more susceptible to every cold and flu going around. Obviously you are slightly more vulnerable to viral infections.. but in the last 4 years I have not suffered from any more illnesses than anyone else I know.
Generally its just one pill a day which replaces dozens of pills, a few injections and in my case, dialysis.
Re:Immuno Suppressents are Good!! (Score:2)
It's different for every person, but most of the cases I've
Re:Immuno Suppressents are Good!! (Score:4, Interesting)
I take one immuno-suppressent (Cyclosporin) twice a day and one (very small dosage) steroid a day and my blood pressure pills.
But my point is I was on maybe 4 times as many pills before my transplant. And the longer you are on dialysis the weaker your bones, heart and other parts become. Also dialysis is time consuming and very depressing.
You can lead a normal life on immuno-suppressents. I and countless others do. I would not have a normal life without my transplant, if indeed I would still be alive.
People should not be knocking transplants simply because they require you to take the immuno-suppressents afterwards.
The alternative to transplants, from what I have seen, is always much much worse.
Re:Immuno Suppressents are Good!! (Score:2)
-Jay
Diebetes Complications (Score:3, Informative)
My father's daily routine is
1) measure his blood-sugar level (pricking the finger is the most accurate way to test)
2) injecting himself with the appropriate insulin amount.
However, there is a limit to how many times a day this can be done which results in stress to his system inbetween injections.
Though he is a type I diebetic, I certainly would not mind giving this treatment a shot even if his immune system would sabotage things in the end. I happen to live in Japan so it is not like I can complain about the treatment being too far from home . .
Where do I sign-up . . .
Re:Diebetes Complications (Score:2)
My nephew has had it cince he was 13, he had some kind of illness that attacked his body and left him with the disease. He carries an insulin pager that constantly delivers a very tiny done that is regulated by a watch he has that communicates with an implant in his arm (that has to be replaced every 6 months) that gives him a readout of his blood sugar levels. He is a very active 21 year old now, very fit, extremely active and with
I wonder (Score:2, Insightful)
ASCII art:
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o csc io c = beta cells
| csc | s = substrate (serum proteins)
o csc o o = pore
\ / i = insulin
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The insulin and glucose can traverse the pores, but immune cells can't reach
Re:I wonder (Score:2)
In another study, researchers in Mexico transplanted cells from the testes and pancreas of newborn piglets into teenagers with diabetes without having to use anti-rejection drugs.
Dr. Rafael Valdes, MD, and colleagues from the Children's Hospital of Mexico in Mexico City transplanted encapsulated islets that were taken from customized, disease-free piglets. The islets, produced by Dia
It's not a 'cure' (Score:2)
use for HIV? (Score:2)
1.: not new. 2.: anti-immune drugs - even worse (Score:2, Insightful)
This is no way new.
2.: more important: the knock out here is the anti-immune-drugs. being treated with this means: live in a sterile environment, no carpet, no plants in your room etc, having any tooth fillings removed/teeth replaced with ceramics (drilled into the jaw. yes drilled) or a denture. And so on.
Plus, a simple cold hits you like a hammer.
So you pay your so called "he
This sounds cool but... (Score:2)
Re:This sounds cool but... (Score:2)
Slashdot is, contrary to popular opinion, more than a computer-nerd site - it's a site for all nerds - look at the categories availible! we have;
- Computer nerds
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Not every nerd out there is fascinated by computers, and we h
Already been cured in mice, awaiting human trials (Score:2, Informative)
Dr. Denise Fastman [harvard.edu] has reversed diabetes in mice [thediabetesblog.com]
She's trying to raise money [reachforthecure.org] for human trials [joinleenow.org], but has run into a few bumps [iacoccafoundation.org]
Other (Better) Treatments (Score:4, Informative)
This is OLD News; cf past Quirks & Quarks repo (Score:3, Informative)
Several -years- ago, the CBC's Quirks & Quarks
(science program) announced the successful
Edmonton Protocol (transplanting islets from
healthy volunteers to Type 1 Diabetes sufferers).
Trials were conducted around the world (incl'g
Canada, USA & Sweden, to name a few locations)
with success rates into the 80 & 90% ranges.
Of course, the problem seemed to be rejection of
the islets. necessitating the need to reduce the
immune system's effectiveness in the recipient.
So, WHAT'S NEW HERE?!?
Doesn't this article's poster or
read medical journals before embracing articles?
Fair enough to let people know about treatments
just in case peoples' doctors aren't telling them
about them (what doctors or insulin-pump makers
want to lose business?)
But is this
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Next article, please.
not first transplant (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Why? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Woohoo!!! (Score:2, Insightful)
Me American. Thump bible. That cure all! Bush say so.
You can't seperate the ethical questions from the scientific ones. If you are pissed off at how society anwsers ethical questions, then offer something more insightful to the debate than"Me American. Thump Bible".
It is true in some instances a majority of the voters don't want scientific advancement at the cost of their moral values. Maybe stem
Re:Woohoo!!! (Score:4, Insightful)
2: if these abortions are going to hapen
The analogy you use of the FDA doing further research is specious
Im not an american and my views on Bushs other presidential acts otherwise aside , This was a totaly stupid decision that seems to me a bit like book burning
The research will continue , Your tax dollars are put to better use(?) are they , do you know what the funds got diverted to , i can hasten a guess that it is not back to you or another scientific field, Stem cell advances that will(possibly nothing is certain , but its fairly likely) save millions of lives will instead hapen much later and instead of being partial protected will be in the hands of a private company and it will end up costing you more in the end
The grandparent may have phrased it in a way that offended you slightly
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I don't think anyone would become pregnant just so they could be harvested for cells. But if they did, what would be the harm? It's not "dead baby". It's a fetus. It might be only few clustered cells without any brain-functions. If those cells could be used to cure someone from a mortal disease, I fail to see what damage it does. Of course, abortion is a big thing for the people involved, but if they want to do it, who are we to say "no"?
Abortions will happen. Outlawing them wont make them go away. And since they will happen no matter what, you might as well figure out ways how they could benefit the society as a whole. Demonizing the doctors who do them as "baby-killers" or something accomplishes nothing. using the cells for cures of disease or research accomplishes quite alot.
If you really want to reduce the number of abortions, you should focus on educating people. No, "say no to sex!" or bible-thumbing is not the answer. Objective information about different birth-control methods and making them available would be a good start.
And like it or not, life is a commodity. It has been since the dawn of time. We have had prostitutes, slaves, mercenaries and even regural wage-slaves. We all sell our lives to some extent for money.
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Re:Woohoo!!! (Score:3)
I happen to disagree with the ban myself, but it's still important to get one's facts straight.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_cell#Policy_deb
Re:Woohoo!!! (Score:2)
And then you come along with nothing intelligent to say, and you chose to speak up anyway. Why?
It's ok to be ignorant. Just don't make the rest of us put up with it.
Re:why (Score:2)
Because it bashes the bible?"
No, I think it's because it was a troll, it was flame bait, and it was offtopic.
Does your bias cloud your ability to see that?