Needle Free Injections With Microjets 282
IZ Reloaded writes "Do you hate needles? In the near future, the fear of needles would be a thing of a past. Bioengineering students at the University of California, Berkeley have developed the MicroJet. It uses an electronic actuator that could one day propel vaccinations, insulin or other drugs through the skin of the patient - without the device even touching the skin - with far less pain than a hypodermic needle."
Insulin jet injectors are NOT NEW (Score:5, Informative)
http://diabetic-supplies.medical-supplies-equipme
Medi-Jector Vision(tm)Needle-Free Insulin Injection System
Accurate delivery of insulin injections from 2-50 units in 1 unit increments. Injector reusable for 3000 injections. No maintenance or cleaning required. Smaller, lighter weight and easier to use than previous models. Contains: injector, carrying case, training video, instruction manual, 2 Needle-Free Syringes (for easy and medium skin penetration) and 1 vial adaptor. Replacement Needle-Free Syringe kits sold separately.
what's amazing here?
Re:Insulin jet injectors are NOT NEW (Score:2)
I had talked with three different companies (Score:2, Interesting)
Tried it (Score:2, Informative)
It's definitely NOT painless, but for around 5-10 units of insulin, it's rather "comfortable", but anything above that can be downright painful (more of a blunt pain than a sharp needle stick pain), and has also caused me welts. It's definitely not for injections where there's a lot of fat (stomach)... only for areas li
Re:Insulin jet injectors are NOT NEW (Score:5, Informative)
I'm a type 1 diabetic (Score:5, Interesting)
However, I must say I really don't care if they come out with a needle-less injector that works better. It's not the shots themselves that bother me, but rather the constant maintenance that people take for granted. I'd still need to do something. Right now I have a pump, and it's better than doing individual injections, but it's always with me. I'm waiting for the day when I no longer have to worry about this disease any longer because I've been cured.
Injections - no big deal (Score:5, Informative)
You probably already know this but many other
Bloodsugar tests are a different story. My fingers are slightly callused from all the pinpricks - There are no real painless and definately no viable noninvasive bloodsugar monitoring techniques. Noninvasive bloodsugar monitoring is probably the second biggest Holy Grail in diabetes research (the biggest being an actual cure). The "alternative site testing" advertised by many modern meter manufacturers is highly overrated. If you read the manual of such meters you'll find that alternative site testing is inaccurate and gives a delayed reading and should not be used in many situations. (Of the 5-6 tests per day I run, only one is in conditions where AST is fine. And for that one test it's not worth changing lancet device heads.)
The thing I want most as a diabetic right now though is not painless/easier insulin injections (my NovoPen Junior with B-D Ultra-Fine III needles is both painless and convenient), or noninvasive testing (fingersticks are annoying but I'm used to it), it's CHEAP diabetes supplies. Bloodsugar meter test strips run on the order of $0.50-$1 per test. Insulin prices are skyrocketing. You're basically screwed unless you have a high-end medical insurance plan, which is TOUGH when you're a grad student.
But eventually, an actual cure would be damned nice.
Re:Injections - no big deal (Score:2, Informative)
I re-use my syringes (because I'm miserly, and don't like carrying around a whole lot of them).
I had a Medi-Ject back in the day, and only used it for a few weeks. It caused a lot of bruising, which wasn't that big a deal, and also occasionally lost some of the dose against my skin, which was a big deal.
AST testing tends to only lag in situations where your blood sugar is dropping fast (y
Re:Injections - no big deal (Score:2)
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Re:I'm a type 1 diabetic (Score:3, Informative)
Here is a company [cercomed.com] that is working on a similar procedure that will not require the use of immune suppressing drugs. Much closer to a true cure. Though they have not yet perfected their technology, it looks very promising.
Yes, do you prefer... (Score:4, Interesting)
Jetgun (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Jetgun (Score:2)
Re:Jetgun (Score:5, Interesting)
Well, they're promising "far less pain" with this device.
Once upon a time, I had the misfortune to receive a yellow fever vaccination with one of the military's needleless injectors. It felt like some steroid-pumped baseball player had swung a bat at my shoulder. Nearly as bad as the pain was the gathering anticipation of the pain, as I watched the 200-odd people in line ahead of me get their shots.
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Re:Jetgun (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Jetgun (Score:4, Funny)
Hmmmm. Seems like 1/2 of it is malfunctioning. Stay right there, I'll be right over!
Re:Jetgun (Score:3, Insightful)
But out in the real world, if you tell someone "if you even flinch, you will need stiches" and people will not accept it.
Re:Jetgun (Score:2)
Obligatory Star Trek reference... (Score:3, Funny)
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Re:Obligatory Star Trek reference... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Obligatory Star Trek reference... (Score:2)
Re:Obligatory Star Trek reference... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Obligatory Star Trek reference... (Score:2)
Gee! thanks for letting me look at your blog (Score:5, Informative)
Read the press release, its better
Re:Gee! thanks for letting me look at your blog (Score:2)
Although I honestly wouldn't put it past that schmuck to create his own copycat website and link to the stories on his original site.
The first? (Score:5, Interesting)
And trust me.. It is not exactly pain-free.
Re:The first? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:The first? (Score:2)
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Re:The first? (Score:2)
Also, the injecections were preceded by a warning (I don't know if it was true) that if you flinched and moved away from the "gun" that it could/would tear the skin and be very painful. I don't know anyone who had that happen... so I guess the warning worked.
As far as the pain goes... yes they were painful, but did not carry the stigma and worry of the needle. They were also mu
Re:The first? (Score:2)
--Dave
Re:The first? (Score:2)
Wasn't nearly as bad as the penicillin shots we had to get when most of my flight came down with strep throat.
Well beyond... (Score:5, Funny)
So for God's sake, ask the nurse to check the settings before she pulls the trigger.
Re:Well beyond... (Score:2)
Nothing against an elephant dose of novalgin or codein, for example
been around for a while (Score:2, Informative)
Re:been around for a while (Score:2)
"Amounts of vaccine remaining on skin surface were quantified."
In other words, it leaves a bit of a mess.
"Far less" (Score:2)
Didn't they invent this 40 years ago? (Score:2, Interesting)
That thing HURT!
Some time ago now (Score:2, Interesting)
I have yet to see them use that idea, and if you ask me that sounded a lot more cost effective then this does.
No needle at all, and it already exists (Score:4, Interesting)
As for lots of micro-needles vs. one big needle, it might not be all that new: I seem to recall getting some vaccine shot at school when I was a kid, where the nurse used some ring-looking plastic thing she put on her middle finger, with the business end of the device being a small, round "nail-bed" in her palm, and she slammed me on the shoulder with it, which probably accounts for the ugly mark I have there at that spot too
transdermal patches (Score:2)
And they have a patch for birth control drugs, the ad has scantily-clad women with these things placed somewhere below their navel.
They could have saved a lot of money on this, just get a big band-aid and write "GET OFF ME" on it...
The multi-prong thing you had might have been a Tuberculosis "tine" test.
Re:No needle at all, and it already exists (Score:2)
Re:No needle at all, and it already exists (Score:2)
You were probably born in the 1960's. That was how they used to give Polio vaccinations. I was born in the 1970's and from then on it has been oral.
Re:No needle at all, and it already exists (Score:2)
Oh, that and something about ye shall know the followers of the beast by his mark, or something like that
Re:No needle at all, and it already exists (Score:2)
Re:No needle at all, and it already exists (Score:2, Informative)
worst article eh-ver! (Score:4, Insightful)
"The researchers even joke that the MicroJet injector could be used to make getting tattoos much more bearable."
heh heh heh.... wait.. that's not a funny joke at all.
and the article fails to address the issue that this technology could become so painless that you do not even realize that you are receiving drugs. This becomes very scary.
Re:worst article eh-ver! (Score:2)
Yup. Wonder if it can be miniturized to the point where drug injections can be made merely by shaking hands or patting backs. Or - if larger - since it can be done without touching the skin - by simply holding a briefcase or purse near the person with the injector concealed in it.
On the upside, this might quickly end the practice of politicians shaking hands. People of all sides wou
Re:worst article eh-ver! (Score:3, Interesting)
One of the most attractive aspects of getting a tattoo is that it hurts. It means that not everyone can stand to have it done and that if you have a big tattoo (as I do) that says a lot. I don't want some Blink 182/Lit/Linkin Park loving wuss (anyone else notice that all these bands are from affluent white neighbourhoods?) ruining that.
Needle-free Injection Technology Info (Score:5, Informative)
As an allergy sufferer who gets 2 shots/week (Score:2)
This is nothing new ... (Score:4, Informative)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_injector
Heroin (Score:5, Funny)
Been around for a while... (Score:2)
Major uses seem to be vaccination and insulin.
Its not the needle (Score:5, Informative)
-Dracken
Re:Its not the needle (Score:3, Interesting)
When I was younger, my mom got something (hepatitis maybe?), so they had to test the family. I was about 5 at the time. I go in and they attempt to draw blood from me. They couldn't find the vein. So what do they do? They keep trying. I ended up being pricked about 15 times in each arm, til my mom stopped it. Those fucking idiots scarred me for life by doing that and now I can't stand to be near needles. Whenever I need to have shots, I need to
Re:Its not the needle (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Its not the needle (Score:2)
Re:Its not the needle (Score:2)
Dude, you need to stop getting your drugs from the street pharmacist. I like my vicodin to be vicodin.
Re:Its not the needle (Score:4, Interesting)
Awww, then you won't hear this anymore..... (Score:3, Funny)
DOCTOR: Oh so I am. It does make a lovely scraping sound though.
Cute nurse (Score:3, Funny)
Pain free injections? Get bloodwork a few times. (Score:2, Informative)
Then, at the age of 23, I found a lump. It was cancer. While I didn't need chemo, I did get a lot of CT scans requiring an IV with a radiopaque substance (6 in my first year post-surgery) and bloodwork (12 in that same year).
After that, my GP strongly recommended I get a flu shot, as is suggested to anyone who's had cancer. I was a bit nervous (it had been years since I'd had one, partly because I was generally health
Re:Pain free injections? Get bloodwork a few times (Score:2)
Starting 4-5 years after I became diabetic, most flu shots changed to much smaller needles similar to those used for insulin injections.
Now you can't feel flu shots at all, just like I can't feel 95%+ of my insulin injections because the needle is so small.
On the other hand, the flu shots tend to make your arm sore as hell starting an hour or so after the injection and continuing for a day or two.
Injections for Multiple Sclerosis (Score:5, Informative)
In fact, up until about a century ago, sharp objects piercing into your body has generally been a detrimental event. It meant that you were being bitten (with poison or germs getting injected past your outer layer defenses) or you were getting punctured by something that would result in an infection. So everything about your physical makeup and your psychology is evolved to consider injections to be a bad thing. In a twist of events, now it turns out that shard objects getting jabbed into your body is mostly a beneficial thing. But it will take a long time for evolution to change our aversion to injections. And with new technologies, it may not even be necessary for that adaptation to occur. I certainly hope this becomes the case in the *very* near future.
The nerves on the surface of your skin tend to cluster. So, the amount of pain related to the actual puncture of the skin varies greatly, depending on whether or not you happen to hit one of those nerve clusters. Sometimes the penetration of the skin would result in a strong pinching sensation; other times, I would not feel anything at all. For the intramuscular injections, it is also possible that you will hit another nerve on your way into the muscle tissue. That usually just results in a reflex reaction (you jump or twitch). The act of the actual injection is painless, since the solution is injected far below the surface pain receptors. But then you tend to get long-term dull pain similar to a charly horse; it's like a blunt end of a stick whacked you in the thigh and you have a nice bruise in your muscle. And $deity help you if you happen to hit your bone with the tip of the needle.
About a year ago, I switched therapies to Rebif, which is given subcutaneously three times a week. The needle is a smaller gauge and is signifianctly shorter (~1.5cm). It is unintuitive, but the subcutaneous injections, even though the needle is shorter and thinner, are much more painful than the IM injections, because the solution is injected just below the surface of the skin, where you have a lot more pain receptors. So it's not the needle really that I worry about. I hardly even feel that any more; it's the stinging sensation from the liquid getting pushed into the subcutaneous tissue just below the skin.
I use a spring-loaded injection contraption that hides the needle from my view entirely; I just hold the casing to my skin and push a button. The spring-loaded plunger pushes the needle in and presses the plunger of the syringe down to inject the medicine. I don't even worry about the needle any more; I worry about the sting with the liquid getting pushed under my skin and the subsequent itchy and burning red blotch that stays in that area for weeks afterward. So in my case, at least, the needle is a non-issue; this needle-less technology is neat, but it will not help with the pain associated with liquid getting pushed under my skin, and it will not help with the site reaction.
Wake me up when they figure out how to effectively administrate interferon-beta with a pill.
WTF... these are already in common use. (Score:2)
Taking Blood (Score:3, Insightful)
I never minded a needle being popped in emptied and being subtracted. As mentioned here it seems a good thing to eliminate the need of needles for that. But as the "recipient" it doesn't make much of a difference it seems.
Now, when they bypass the need sticking a needle in one's vein to tap off blood for analys I'll be cheering! That is just so uncomfortable.
Existing Technology (Score:2)
"would be a thing of a past." (Score:2)
So, if it's not a thing of another past, would that mean it's still a thing of the (a?) present?
but will it leave a scar? (Score:4, Informative)
Unfortunately, I see nothing in the article that even mentions the issue of scarring, which imho should be a pretty big deal.
Oh, great... (Score:2)
Does anyone else see the irony? (Score:2)
I remember when this was cool (Score:3, Interesting)
Wait... (Score:2)
Re:AIDS (Score:3, Insightful)
Good point. I really hope there needs be some proximity while 'injecting'. In that case it wouldn't really be different from an HIV patient attacking you with a needle.
Re:AIDS (Score:3, Funny)
Re:yeah, but will it hit my vein? (Score:5, Insightful)
pneumatic injectors are painful (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:pneumatic injectors are NOT painful... (Score:2, Interesting)
I got my German Measles (rubella) vaccination with a pneumatic injector. I think this was in 6th grade, which would have been sometime in 1970-71 for me. I don't really remember it hurting any more or less than a standard hypodermic needle injection (which didn't really bother me much as a kid, anyway), but it was quick, taking maybe 10 minutes, tops, to administer to a class of 30 students. School officials really played up the fact that ther
Re:pneumatic injectors are painful (Score:3, Interesting)
Swab, *thwop*, swab, *thwop*, etc. about 3-5 seconds per person.
Key thing is not to flinch or move when they pull the trigger. If you do, the jet of vaccine works just like a water-cutter on skin.
Re:pneumatic injectors are painful (Score:2)
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Re:pneumatic injectors are painful (Score:2)
I guess any improvement is a good thing but the new needles are nothing. I've had more painful mosquito insertions. Anyone who can't handle them has to have psychological issues about personal invas
Re:pneumatic injectors are painful (Score:2)
Re:yeah, but will it hit my vein? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:yeah, but will it hit my vein? (Score:4, Interesting)
They weren't any less painful than a needle, but they were much quicker and they were foolproof. Literally anybody could use one. You just put it against the arm and pull the trigger.
I believe they were discontinued because of safety reasons. I believe they found out that there was a possibility of microdrops of blood being blasted back out of the skin, and then injected into the next person.
Re:yeah, but will it hit my vein? (Score:3, Interesting)
rj
Re:yeah, but will it hit my vein? (Score:2, Funny)
It's good that they can take any relatively harmless apparatus like that and make it look like it's going to hurt like a some of a gun, and like it was built by the lowest bidder.
Re:Yep, that's the bastard (Score:2)
Celebrities use... (Score:3, Funny)
You should try that Proactiv then. Apparently from the infomercials, Vanessa Williams was hideous before using Proactive Solution.
Re:Celebrities use... (Score:2)
It's basically just a benzoyl peroxide kit, but I've tried other products with the same active ingredient and had less luck. My guess is that it's got to do with the mildness of the cleanser and the moisturizing stuff.
Or maybe it's the cele
Vanessa Williams (Score:2)
Re:Celebrities use... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Celebrities use... (Score:2, Interesting)
And people on Slashdot can rarely speak street slang. oxycotton [webmd.com]
Re:New needles are very thin (Score:2)
Re:Yeah...this is not a new thing. (Score:2)