The Cure for Cancer Might be: HIV 668
RGautier writes "Wired News has published that Scientists have successfully modified the AIDS-causing HIV in such a way that it can attack metasticized melanoma (cancer cells). The impact of genetic research on cancer research is in and of itself amazing. To mix this with the strategy of using one strong enemy against another is brilliance! Research will continue, obviously, but they are already reporting success on living creatures." Just think: between HIV and carrots we'll be all set.
Mabye (Score:2, Interesting)
Great news except for this small fact... (Score:2, Interesting)
http://www.ndtv.com/template/template.asp?template =Aids&slug=New+HIV+strain+found+in+NY&id=68437&cal lid=1 [ndtv.com]
implies that HIV is becoming stronger at a time when we want to spread it by calling it a cure. I guess if you die early of the new more virulent HIV then you don't have to worry about cancer.
Re:battlefield (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:It will never see the light of market shelves . (Score:4, Interesting)
They do mutate a lot (Score:3, Interesting)
mutability of influenza [news-medical.net]
some propaganda but also speaks of HIV mutability. [marleyaids.org] I did not have time to search for more HIV article but google is your friend.
Nothing To See Here... (Score:1, Interesting)
The Medical Indu$try in America is founded upon the idea of maintain a large pool of "sick" people.
End of story.
Re:battlefield (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:It will never see the light of market shelves . (Score:5, Interesting)
As drugs and techniques prove themselves they move down the ladder until they're used to treat the general public.
Of course, patients are only give the option of highly experimental methods once the tried and true stuff has failed.
The only people exposed to this will be the ones who allready have a death sentence from their cancers.
Sometimes cancer forces people into rough decisions. A friend of mine chose to accecpt a bone marrow transplant from an HIV positive doner because it was her only chance to beat her leukemia.
She's doing fine now, but she's on AZT and all kinds of other antivirals now to stave off AIDS.
Re:Great news except for this small fact... (Score:3, Interesting)
Since it progresses faster (countable in months rather than years), it is more likely to eliminate its self, rather than stay silent and spread.
-nB
Re:Might want to downplay the HIV thing (Score:5, Interesting)
"Scientists could customize the system to target any protein on the surface of a cell"
Target the protiens on a group of humans, Kurdish, Jewish, Korean, whatever. Many groups of humans have some genes that are particular to their genetic heritage. Target those geenes to make something worse, instant selective genocide.
-nB
Mutating HIV here, today :( (Score:4, Interesting)
Multi-drug-resistant HIV strain raises alarm [newscientist.com]
The coincidence that an engineered HIV against cancer comes around just when another HIV mutation appears on the wild... Where is my tinfoil hat?
Re:Is there any chance... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:"Ahhh that's how it always starts. Then later.. (Score:4, Interesting)
This is a big problem with adenovectors - even in the best cases, patients will get at least a little sick from them. There are next generation forms that are less toxic, but these are still in development.
The real advance here was that they were able to combine the minimal "cell killing" aspect of HIV with another virus, Sindbis, to create a gene therapy that is relatively benign. They then modified that to target this to specifically kill a certain type of tumor. Previous attempts at HIV-based gene therapies proved to be too toxic.
Of course this was all in mice, which don't get AIDS from HIV. Whether it would in people is another story.
Re:Amazing! (Score:3, Interesting)
Don't fear this, Fear Avian Bird Flu (Score:3, Interesting)
What you need to fear and what the general population doesn't understand is that chickens overseas are the perfect breeding ground for the next epidemic. At least one case exists where two people caught the flu bug from an infected person... who got it from a chicken.
Can you imagine what wouldve happend had that inital carrier been infected with, say, influenza? A nice, ripe virus that mutates every year and at the drop of a hat... now being fed genes that can expand it's payload a millionfold.
What do you think a flu vaccine would cost then? Assuming, of course, that the 20% mortality rate would be realistic...
Anyways- this research doesn't scare me. They aren't talking about mixing different diseases yet that have radically different vectors (think Clancy). But should they try to pull this stunt with common flu, chicken pox, small pox, HIV, bird flu, and rabies... and let them stew... then we're in trouble. Byebye world population...
Beneficial effects of smoking (Score:5, Interesting)
-"Beneficial Effects of Nicotine" (Jarvik, British Journal of Addiction, 1991)
Not listed here is an obscure type of stroke that occurs with less frequency in smokers.
I started smoking out of sheer desperation with ulcerative colitis about ten years ago. The ulcerative colitis went away, but then I was left with a disgusting two pack per day habit for two years that probably did more damage to my health. I should have tried chewing that gross nicotine gum instead. (Crohn's disease OTOH has a high incidence among smokers so it isn't exactly a total win.)
BOTOX, anyone? (Score:2, Interesting)
Just in case the layperson didn't know what the active ingredient is, it's got a self-explaining "*TOX" in its name. Now, that doesn't sound very reassuring, right?
However, its name hasn't prevented it from becoming one of the most popular drugs in the US at the moment, with people paying outrageous money for a very simple injection - of a poison. There are even (mentally ill|desperate) people resorting to homemade products and ending up in intensive care units, if not dead. All this to be given poison and iron out a few wrinkles?
I guess this shows that when there's both a scientific (and marketing?) interest, doctors and media are more than able to convince their patients that a "poison" or dangerous substance is for their good (looks.)
Re:A scientific explanation (Score:2, Interesting)
What does that mean? 0.001% it will mutate into a killer virus per patient? Per hour? Ever?
If it's per patient then that doesn't seem like an acceptable risk to me - we don't want any new weird strains of HIV around?
Re:Mis-titled article (Score:2, Interesting)
It wasn't until the mid-1990s that researchers were able to grow enough Pgp to analyze it using traditional methods, so we're really in the infancy of Pgp antagonists. This approach, if clinically successful, should radically improve the chances of many cancer patients.
Re:Might want to downplay the HIV thing (Score:2, Interesting)
I've heard this several times. Does anyone know how exactly was it determined that "too many people were afraid of the word nuclear"? Or was there one marketroid who decided "nuclear" was too scary?
cocktail (Score:1, Interesting)
This is a REALLY REALLY REALLY bad idea! (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Might want to downplay the HIV thing (Score:4, Interesting)
Alternatively, someone with Sickle-Cell Anaemia could modify it to attack healthy bone marrow. The healthier a person was, the more deadly the attack would be to them.
The problem (or, for humanity, the good thing) is that HIV is not very stable. It would be next to impossible to make an airborne strain of it.
A far, far greater concern for humanity is that there are airborne strains of Ebola. If someone were to take an airborne Ebola and somehow merge in the targetting system in HIV, you could engineer a device capable of destruction on a scale Western civilization has no comprehension of.
Re:It will never see the light of market shelves . (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Might want to downplay the HIV thing (Score:5, Interesting)
HIV is the opposite extreme. It's latency period is so long that someone will be infected for years if not decades before the infection is detected. HIV is a large, complex, and fickle virus.
There is already something airborne, virilent, and with a just short enough but just long enough incubation time. It's called influenza and it kills millions per year. And it has been killing people for as long as we have been keeping track of epidemics.
Re:Exercise (Score:3, Interesting)
Contracting myocarditis, which they can't say how she got, where she got, and which little or nothing can be done for?
how s her example supposed to help, other than illustrate that horrible things can happen to people without warning.
I'm sorry for her, but her case is just not the norm.
The vast majority of heart disease in this country is brought on by a sedentary lifestyle, poor diet and smoking.
All three of these factors are readily curable without the intervention of a health organization, pricey pharmaceuticals or endless doctors visits.
Re:Beneficial effects of smoking (Score:2, Interesting)