2004 Ig Nobel Prizes Announced 204
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2004 Ig Nobel prizes are out.
Article by New Scientist. An 'invisible gorilla has scooped the 2004 Ig Nobel Prize for Psychology'. And 'dropped food is safe to eat if it has spent no more than five seconds on the floor' - Public Health. Finally, there's proof for the 5 second rule! And for Engineering, 'Patenting of the combover'. Official page with
ceremony and
lectures."
Proper definition/clarification of 5-second rule (Score:5, Funny)
In conjunction with:
Read your town charter, boy. `If food stuffs should touch the ground, said food stuffs shall be turned over to the village idiot.' Since I don't see him around, start shoveling! - Homer.
Re:Proper definition/clarification of 5-second rul (Score:2)
I'm no germ-freak idiot, and have no problem, say, eating a slice of pizza that fell topdown on the floor. Wipe the big crunchy dirt off and it's as good as new... unless your shit don't stink.
I with Carlin and Kramer. :)
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Re:Proper definition/clarification of 5-second rul (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Proper definition/clarification of 5-second rul (Score:3, Funny)
Here's a scenario for you stecoop. You're standing in the crowded men's room - late into the evening - at your favorite local bar knowing these people can't pee straight sober much less drunk. You brought your beer with you; because, God forbid, someone steal your drink.
As you're waiting in line to pee, some drunk opens the door into you causing you to spill your drink.
Here's your question: Which puddle do you lick up? You have four seconds to decide.
Re:Proper definition/clarification of 5-second rul (Score:4, Funny)
The owner would be the village idiot for these reasons:
1) You're standing in front of the door
2) You brought your beer to the bathroom
3) You didn't finish your drink *before* going to the bathroom
4) You are walking in pee
5) You're in crowded men's room
Possible Remedies
1) Pee in your beer bottle to rectify anyone from stealing your beer in the future
2) Finish drink before going to bathroom
3) Plan on going to the bathroom before ordering drink
4) Don't walk in Pee
5) Don't take drink to bathroom.
6) Don't stand in front of a bathroom door
7) Let the dog have it - or you're the village idiot.
Shurely shome mishtake ? (Score:4, Interesting)
For me, the Coca Cola one is the most amazing one - there was a UK sitcom called 'Only Fools And Horses' about an East-London wide-boy ("Del-boy") and family, often hilarious, especially where 'Trigger' was concerned
The fact that Coca Cola thought they could get away with for real makes me wonder what *other* "Del-boy" schemes have been put into practice!
Simon
Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? (Score:5, Insightful)
However, It does amaze me that some people buy the stuff by the case for their home, and/or the most expensive brand (it's just packaged water, damn it!). Nearly everyone can get the same quality water from home with the right filtration process.
While sometimes over used by some people, pure packaged water makes a fine product and I believe that wherever you see a soda can vended you should have the opportunity to purchase the most important thing that humans need, clean fresh water.
Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? (Score:3, Informative)
I think that may be true in the US, but in the European Union water that calls itself `Natural Mineral Water' has to come from an accredited spring. Most of the big brands such as Evian, Vittel, Perrier, San Pellegrino, etc. fall into this category. There'a a long tradition of spas with putative health benefits, and no doubt the legislati
Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? (Score:3, Informative)
- "spring" water is *very* heavily monitored and has some very stringent restrictions on it's composition. Notably on included minerals. Very few springs actually qualify. You can drink this water daily without trouble.
- "mineral" water is also monitored but without the restrictions on composition, therefore there *might* be too much sodium (or fluoride, or whatever) for regular consumption. Most waters fall into this cat
Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? (Score:3, Interesting)
Most brands do tweak the mineral content a bit to tinker with the flavor, though far less than something labeled "mineral water".
Personally, I drink a lot of tap water, and I'm always faintly embarrassed when I want something to drink on the road and have to run into a 7-11 to buy wate
Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? (Score:4, Interesting)
I have always thought there would be a market for it - at least would taste different to all the other bottle waters.
Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? (Score:2)
Gee, I've never gotten around to trying it. I'll have to pour myself a beaker this afternoon. :)
On the other hand, have you seen what it does when you put it in a container that's covered with scale? (Calcium carbonate reside, mostly, from hard water.) It's a very good solvent for those minerals--just sucks them right off the glass. It's a great way to remove scale from a coffeepot.
Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? (Score:2)
Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? (Score:3, Insightful)
In any case, it does taste better than other bottled waters for some inexplicable reason.
Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? (Score:2)
The plural of "anecdote" isn't "data" (Score:2)
A friend of mine grew up in Colorado (floridated tap water) and moved to Utah (not floridated tap water)
As soon as she went to the dentist in Utah, he asked her where she grew up. She explained, and he said that he could tell by the health of her teeth that she wasn't local.
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Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? (Score:2)
Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? (Score:3, Interesting)
Additionally, my friend working at Boston Water and Sewer drinks his tap water over bottled water, because tap water is subject to far more rigorous testing than is bottled water.
This was covered in an episode of Penn & Tellers "Bullshit!", and at least according to them your friend is essentially correct. While bottled water is regulated, it's regulated by the FDA which has less than one guy dedicated to enforcement/monitoring. Tap water is closely monitored and each city has to issue reports on
Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? (Score:2)
That's not entirely true. They are held to the standard of, "we have to improve our profits next quarter".
Hey - we can save money by using old underwear to filter the water. Ka-ching!!!
Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? (Score:4, Insightful)
Both of them sell bottled tap water under their respective brand names world-wide.
Aquafina == Pepsi municipal tap water
Dasani == Coke municipal tap water
So I guess people shouldn't complain that I let my dog drink out of the toilet - she's getting the same stuff you're paying a buck a bottle for.
Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? (Score:3, Interesting)
Especially since beer is cheaper.
This is especially true in Germany, where good beer is often significantly cheaper than bottled water or soft drinks.
When in a restaurant there, I would often order beer because it was the cheapest drink on the menu. I actually like ordinary tap water, but often asking for water there gets you carbonated water, which I do not like at all. You have to actually specify that you want tap water (Leitungswasser), but sometimes they still don't seem to get it.
For some rea
Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? (Score:2)
Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? (Score:2)
(Actually I don't buy bottled water myself, as amazing as it may sound there are countries where tap water is perfectly drinkable and very tasty even, and if I want to I can take the ~2km hike to the nearest spring. But I realize this is not possible in every countr
Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? (Score:2)
Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? (Score:2)
Those prices are for Dasani/Aquafina, Evian and the other froo froo brands might be more.
It's not tap water (Score:2)
You can like soda or hate it, (you can like Bud Light or hate it) but wherever you go in the north american continent, a bottle of coke will always taste exactly like every other bottle of coke, and that's a phenominal feat.
A glass of tap water from NYC will be different from tap water in Miami, different from Santa Fe, etc. But a bottle of Dasani each each of th
Re:It's not tap water (Score:3, Informative)
5 Second Rule (Score:4, Informative)
It depends on which part of the claim you are looking at. If you take the claim as "Food that has been on the floor less than 5 seconds is safe to eat" then the claim holds up, mostly because he proved that the time doesn't matter much at all. What he seems to have demonstrated is that most of the floors he looked at were clean enough to eat from. He did disprove that the time is the relevant factor, however.
There's always a difference between clean and sanitary. Relevant to this is that we may actually be too clean [telegraph.co.uk].
They understated Coca Cola's achievement (Score:2)
To foil the buttered toast rule... (Score:3, Funny)
Text in case of Slashdotting.. (Score:5, Informative)
The 2004 Ig Nobel Prizes were awarded on Thursday evening, September 30, at the 14th First Annual Ig Nobel Prize Ceremony, at Harvard's Sanders Theatre.
MEDICINE
Steven Stack of Wayne State University, Detroit, Michigan, USA and James Gundlach of Auburn University, Auburn, Alabama, USA, for their published report "The Effect of Country Music on Suicide."
PUBLISHED IN: Social Forces, vol. 71, no. 1, September 1992, pp. 211-8.
WHO ATTENDED THE IG NOBEL CEREMONY: James Gundlach.
PHYSICS
Ramesh Balasubramaniam of the University of Ottowa, and Michael Turvey of the University of Connecticut and Yale University, for exploring and explaining the dynamics of hula-hooping.
REFERENCE: "Coordination Modes in the Multisegmental Dynamics of Hula Hooping," Ramesh Balasubramaniam and Michael T. Turvey, Biological Cybernetics, vol. 90, no. 3, March 2004, pp. 176-90.
WHO ATTENDED THE IG NOBEL CEREMONY: Ramesh Balasubramaniam and Michael Turvey.
PUBLIC HEALTH
Jillian Clarke of the Chicago High School for Agricultural Sciences, and then Howard University, for investigating the scientific validity of the Five-Second Rule about whether it's safe to eat food that's been dropped on the floor.
WHO ATTENDED THE IG NOBEL CEREMONY: Jillian Clarke
CHEMISTRY
The Coca-Cola Company of Great Britain, for using advanced technology to convert liquid from the River Thames into Dasani, a transparent form of water, which for precautionary reasons has been made unavailable to consumers.
ENGINEERING
Donald J. Smith and his father, the late Frank J. Smith, of Orlando Florida, USA, for patenting the combover (U.S. Patent #4,022,227).
WHO ATTENDED THE IG NOBEL CEREMONY: Donald Smith's son, Scott Jackson Smith, and daughter, Heather Smith.
LITERATURE
The American Nudist Research Library of Kissimmee, Florida, USA, for preserving nudist history so that everyone can see it.
WHO ATTENDED THE IG NOBEL CEREMONY: Pamela Chestek, the daughter of ANRL director Helen Fisher.
PSYCHOLOGY
Daniel Simons of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign and Christopher Chabris of Harvard University, for demonstrating that when people pay close attention to something, it's all too easy to overlook anything else -- even a man in a gorilla suit.
REFERENCE: "Gorillas in Our Midst," Daniel J. Simons and Christopher F. Chabris, vol. 28, Perception, 1999, pages 1059-74.
DEMO:
WHO ATTENDED THE IG NOBEL CEREMONY: Daniel Simons and Christopher Chabris.
ECONOMICS
The Vatican, for outsourcing prayers to India.
PEACE
Daisuke Inoue of Hyogo, Japan, for inventing karaoke, thereby providing an entirely new way for people to learn to tolerate each other
WHO ATTENDED THE IG NOBEL CEREMONY: Daisuke Inoue.
BIOLOGY
Ben Wilson of the University of British Columbia, Lawrence Dill of Simon Fraser University [Canada], Robert Batty of the Scottish Association for Marine Science, Magnus Whalberg of the University of Aarhus [Denmark], and Hakan Westerberg of Sweden's National Board of Fisheries, for showing that herrings apparently communicate by farting.
REFERENCE: "Sounds Produced by Herring (Clupea harengus) Bubble Release," Magnus Wahlberg and Håkan Westerberg, Aquatic Living Resources, vol. 16, 2003, pp. 271-5.
REFERENCE: "Pacific and Atlantic Herring Produce Burst Pulse Sounds," Ben Wilson, Robert S. Batty and Lawrence M. Dill, Biology Letters, vol. 271, 2003, pp. S95-S97.
WHO ATTENDED THE IG NOBEL CEREMONY: Lawrence Dill, Robert Batty, Magnus Whalberg, Hakan Westerberg.
Re:Text in case of Slashdotting.. (Score:2, Funny)
Yeah yeah, but if you closely observed who
SEP field (Score:2, Insightful)
This is hardly original work... I think it was well established by Douglas Adams, though he refered to it as a "Somebody Else's Problem Field". If you're busy counting balls, the gorilla must be Somebody Else's Problem, and thus goes unnotic
Re:Text in case of Slashdotting.. (Score:5, Funny)
Please, not 'farting' - I believe the correct term is 'fast, repetitive ticks' (or, um, 'FRTs').
Re:Text in case of Slashdotting.. (Score:5, Informative)
The Coca-Cola Company of Great Britain, for using advanced technology to convert liquid from the River Thames into Dasani, a transparent form of water, which for precautionary reasons has been made unavailable to consumers
Actually I think what they mean is Thames Water which is a public water company. Many water from the river thames drinkable while no means impossible would demand some plaudits.
What they actually did was take public tap water meeting EU regulations, filter it and in the process add harmful impurities which were not in the original product.
Oh yes then sell it at a vast mark up..
Same in the US... BUT (Score:2)
However ANY other tap water is vastly superior to Washington DC tap water, which will KILL YOU (between harmful levels of bacteria, to all the lead in the water). Even my tap water in Montgomery County, Maryland (right outside of DC) is so chlorinated that it smells like a swimming pool.
Even if they add a few impurities here or there, it sure beats DC's water!
5 seconds on the floor? (Score:4, Funny)
Is there a formula to work out the exact 'safe time' based on what food lands on when it falls?
Re:5 seconds on the floor? (Score:5, Funny)
There might be some common sense involved in that decision.
Re:5 seconds on the floor? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:5 seconds on the floor? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:5 seconds on the floor? (Score:2)
Not necessarily. He might wait until he's done eating so as to not have to wash hands again. Or risk losing appetite from exposure to odor.
Cue the obligatory... (Score:2)
Sean
Re:5 seconds on the floor? (Score:2)
You do know what E. Coli actually is?
Re:5 seconds on the floor? (Score:3, Funny)
Why, pray tell, are you eating near dogshit?
What? Nothing for Diebold? (Score:4, Funny)
No, the 5-second rule hasn't been proven. (Score:5, Informative)
Re:No, the 5-second rule hasn't been proven. (Score:5, Funny)
There you go.
It should be LESS THAN 5 seconds.
4.99 seconds would have been good.
5 was just too much.
Re:No, the 5-second rule hasn't been proven. (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:No, the 5-second rule hasn't been proven. (Score:3, Interesting)
A couple choice quotes from here [medicalnewsservice.com].
"Surprisingly, toilet seats consistently had the lowest bacteria levels of the 12 surfaces tested in the study."
"We don't think twice about eating at our desks, even though the average desk has 100 times more bacteria than a kitchen tabl
Re:No, the 5-second rule hasn't been proven. (Score:5, Informative)
Therefore, they concluded, it is generally safe - not because transfer doesn't happen, but because we are fairly fanatical about keeping floors clean.
-Adam
Re:No, the 5-second rule hasn't been proven. (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:No, the 5-second rule hasn't been proven. (Score:2, Funny)
Good to see Coca Cola getting an award (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Good to see Coca Cola getting an award (Score:2)
I was kind of confused, because it's been well known (well, I've known for several years) that both Coke and Pepsi sell tap water for their bottled water. Of course, I also live one town over from the Pepsi bottling plant that serves the New England region.
It makes logical sense - they need to have this filtered water to begin with anyway. All Dasani and Aquafina are is the base water the two companies start with for making all their beverages, plus s
Prior art on combover? (Score:5, Funny)
Winner (Score:5, Interesting)
Basically, they had about 7 or 8 poeple on the screen, and told us to watch how many times a particular parcel was passed around.
The answer was 12 (for anyone who wanted to know).
During this time, someone dress in a bee suit walked onto the screen, stood there for about 10 seconds, and walked off the far side. The parcel even passed across this person.
I didn't see the bee at all, until it was played back. The bee was on the screen for a full 20 seconds in total.
It was quite amazing. Almost as good as trying to get your right foot to rotate clockwise, and your right hand to rotate anti-clockwise...
T.
Re:Winner (Score:5, Funny)
Reminds me of something from a certain radio series [bbc.co.uk] I listened to last night..
So, presumably to avoid detection, terrorists and other ne'r-do-wells should wear gorilla suits - invisibility is just too much effort.
Gorilla Gender Bias? (Score:5, Funny)
She, OTOH, notices everything. And remembers.
Re:Winner (Score:4)
We do this so you don't have to
They do fun stuff like blowing up cars, putting christmas tree lights into the microwave, testing package materials by wrapping up a TV and throwing it out the back of a van travelling at 50mph, demonstrating the properties on a dilatant compound by filling someone swimming pool with custard (you can walk in custard, just don't stand still or you'll sink and get stuck). Fun stuff like that.
In this series, they also have 4 quite stunning women testing various explosives. Last week, they tested plastic explosive, by blowing up a fridge. And then you can give it marks out of 10!
They also tested brown noise a few weeks ago - it worked!
T.
Re:Winner (Score:2)
Doing simple stuff like cooking steak with cocacola, and more expensive stuff like dropping crash test dummies from great heights in rivers, once with a hammer falling a few seconds before the dummy to "break the water", once without and seeing the result.
Sorta like a TV-Snopes.
Re:Winner (Score:2)
Soon on a
Thank you!
Re:Winner (Score:2)
If someone else gets them and puts them out on a free tracker, let us know.
Re:Winner (Score:2)
Usually you just need to register an ID on their forums and post once, generating MORE bandwidth, but probably loading up five or six ads in the process.
But yes, it totally goes against the standard.
Two things: (Score:4, Funny)
"mmmm floor pie" - Homer Simpson
and the worst comb-over [combover.com] I've ever seen:
My Congressmen [cnn.com]
Steve Chabot (Score:3, Funny)
Friend: Why don't you ask Chabot in the next debate why he is trying to mislead the people of the first district on a daily basis?
Candidate: What do you mean? (Excited)
Friend: Well, he's been trying to convince us that he has a full head of hair. I've seen that combover, it's not fooling anyone.
Like in video games... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Like in video games... (Score:4, Funny)
Five Seconds, My Butt (Score:2)
The Effect of Country Music on Suicide (Score:3, Funny)
Details of the invisible gorilla (Score:5, Interesting)
The video consisted of about eight people standing in a circle. Some of them were wearing white t-shirts and some of them were wearing black t-shirts. They had two basketballs and people were engaged in passing basketballs to others wearing the same colour t-shirts. Occasionally two of them would swap places.
It went on for a couple of minutes, and was pretty hard to follow, what with people changing places and everything.
But it was only on the second play-through that I noticed a guy in a gorilla suit, halfway through the video, walk on from one side of the screen, slowly stroll through the circle of ball-passing people, and off the other side of the screen.
Truly astonishing.
Re:Details of the invisible gorilla (Score:3, Interesting)
It was even mentioned on CSI Season 2 Show 32, the one were the three woman rob the casino:
Gil Grissom : A Harvard professor conducted an experiment. Asked a bunch of students to watch a basketball game - count the number of times the ball was passed.
Captain Jim Brass : Yeah? Groundbreaking.
Gil Grissom : During the game a person dressed in a gorilla suit ran across the court. Afterward, the pro
Re:Details of the invisible gorilla (Score:2)
Coca-Cola (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Coca-Cola (Score:3, Informative)
Maybe tat just shows that the US consumer-or the US media-are bigger suckers than the ones in the UK.
Re:Coca-Cola (Score:2)
It's like that "big deal" that Taco Bell sauce cleans pennies... It's just vinegar in action; you'd get the same effect with a $100 bottle of fine Balsamic vinegar.
Country music and suicide rates (Score:5, Funny)
I think some further study is needed here. My theory is that country music is not actually the culprit, but Southern Baptists are. Country music is more likely to be played in areas infested with Southern Baptists and other fundamentalist Christians. These groups are able to place stricter social controls on anything fun and are constantly harping on homosexuals and on anyone that might be having a good time and not constantly worried about damnation. This denial of the reality of free American lives eventually leads to higher suicide rates. I think we would need to start playing country music in more liberalized areas and see if that might increase the rates of buzzkill before we can blame country music exclusively.
Re:Country music and suicide rates (Score:2)
I'd like to counter-point: I think it is totally acceptable to blame country music exclusively. Discuss.
(My mom listened to waaaaay too much of it as a kid and nowadays I squirm whenever I hear Garth Brooks, though I'm not entirely sure that was a learned response)
Re:Country music and suicide rates (Score:3, Funny)
In that case rap and other forms of kiddie 'music' are certainly responsible for a higher homocide rates. Particularly when some little prick is blasting the ultra-mega-supercool speakers he just bought (either for his house or his car) and refuses to recognize the fact that his neighbors really don't want to listen to his noise collection along with him. And when you ask him - politely - to turn the noise dow
Re:There are 2 types of country (Score:4, Funny)
i knew i wasn't crazy..... (Score:5, Funny)
for years i've been seeing this big rabbit, and everyone thought i was nuts. but who's laughing now......?
The 5 second rule (Score:5, Funny)
Re:The 5 second rule (Score:2)
Gah!! Thames Water (Score:2, Informative)
I think if you look at the Guardian article more closely, it implies they used water supplied by the company called Thames Water, not water from The Thames:
Re:Gah!! Thames Water (Score:2)
Re:Gah!! Thames Water (Score:2)
Some of the names appear again and again, but you do seem to have picked up on a minor point that the Ig Nobels are run for a laugh.
You weren't even concerned that Coca Cola's 'purification' process involved introducing a carcinogenic product into _drinking_ water?
That's the serious bit. Concentrate on that rather than the gag reporting.
Dr. Turvey was one of my professors (Score:4, Interesting)
I graduated from UCONN in 1990 with a Bachelor's in Psychology. Dr. Turvey taught perhaps the most interesting class in my experience at UCONN: Learning Theory. The department at that time was in split into factions, one espousing the usual sensation drives perception while the other (led by Dr. Turvey) held that direct perception was a better model. Interesting note, the direct perception group was using hard science and mathematics to prove their theories, something very unusual for what is perceived to be a "soft science".
BTW, does anybody know why the Ig ceremony is off schedule this year? They are usually held on the first Thursday of October, but in this case were held on the last Thursday of September.
Since the combover is patented... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Since the combover is patented... (Score:2)
Nope, the patent appears to have been granted in 1977(!) so has definitely expired by now. On the other hand, to me, it proves the USPTO has been Nucking Futs for much longer than I had originally assumed, and recent problems with obvious software patents are an extension of a pre-existing problem rather than a new one...
Not water from the Thames (Score:4, Informative)
As the original paper points out, tap water is actually validated to a much higher standard than all of that bottled crap people pay for.
Dogs rights (Score:2, Funny)
Just what we need... (Score:2)
Somebody Elses Problem (SEP) field (Score:3, Funny)
Once again, science fiction becomes science fact.
Re:Country music suicide enhancer? (Score:4, Funny)
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Re:Country music suicide enhancer? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Country music suicide enhancer? (Score:4, Interesting)
Teste, singular? (Score:2)