The Black Plague Batted .500 Its Rookie Year 74
ElDuderino44137 writes "Hey, kids, got the summer blues? The CIA isn't the only one with a kids' page to keep you busy. The Centers for Disease Control have the full set of collectible infectious disease trading cards. Mix 'em, match 'em, trade 'em, recoil in abject horror from 'em."
Finally... (Score:4, Funny)
Something to go with my stuffed microbes [thinkgeek.com]!
I'll wait (Score:1)
Every once in a while (Score:2)
Re:Every once in a while (Score:2)
It's even factually correct. (Score:5, Informative)
More or less. The Black Death wiped out one-third to one-half of [any given European / West Asian / Middle Eastern geographical area], with the exceptions of Poland and Scotland, which didn't get touched.
Something to tell the next kid you find singing "ring around the rosey," a nursery rhyme about the Plague. :-)
Re:It's even factually correct. (Score:4, Informative)
check it out [snopes.com]
Re:It's even factually correct. (Score:1)
I always thought that it was supposed to be ashes because they burned the bodies of plague victims?
Re:It's even factually correct. (Score:4, Informative)
Snopes. Snopes. Snopes, snopes, snopes, snopes, snopes.
Who do you check before posting a dubious "fact?"
SNOPES! [snopes.com]
Re:It's even factually correct. (Score:2)
Usually I check Snopes and the Straight Dope [straightdope.com] archives. Last I checked, that snopes page wasn't there. (That "last updated November 2000" bit at the bottom is a pipe dream.)
Anyhow, nice catch and thanks for the pointer. Boy, my junior-high teacher is gonna be pissed when she finds out. :-)
That snopes article sucks. (Score:3, Interesting)
Up until the end where a folklorist is quoted, it's extremely speculative, basing almost all its evidence on the fact that the rhyme didn't appear in print until the 1880s. Arguing over the year claimed by an urban legend (or at least the version that they chose to knock down) is pretty pedantic and poorly thought out in this case.
For example, it's much easier to make light of a plague that happened 2 centuries earlier, just as many of th
Re:It's even factually correct. (Score:2)
"...and then the rats came for them. Thousands and thousands of filthy, filthy rats! And these weren't the cuddly kind of rats you get in today's sewers!"
Re:Every once in a while (Score:2)
I mean, come on. At least change around the text a little bit.
Re:Every once in a while (Score:2)
In this case, the author of the paragraph is a certain Michael P. Owen.
I can hear it now... (Score:5, Funny)
Anyone remember asking for the Plague? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Anyone remember asking for the Plague? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Anyone remember asking for the Plague? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Anyone remember asking for the Plague? (Score:2)
Or they were just being subconsciously honest...
The Prof was smart tho. Wonder if the prof failed people who couldn't figure out a way to request for the book reasonably unambiguously.
Re:Anyone remember asking for the Plague? (Score:2)
There's plenty of "naughty" drink names, too (sex on the beach, blow job, etc.,) but I am always slightly amused by innocently asking pretty bartenders if they have Black Bush [bushmills.com].
I know what else I'm thinking, but do they know what else I'm thinking? And if so, do they know that I know that they know what else I'm thinking?
Whatever. By the third shot, I'm not thinking about much.
Re:Anyone remember asking for the Plague? (Score:1)
A new meaning of... (Score:5, Funny)
Well... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:huh? (Score:3, Informative)
Yersinia pestis is a contender. (Score:2, Informative)
While there is some new-ish research [newscientist.com] that might indicate otherwise, my understanding is that the research and its findings are not being very well received.
Still very interesting.
-John
Re:Yersinia pestis is a contender. (Score:5, Informative)
As for a hemorragic fever being responsible, it is of course possible but highly unlikely. It would have to be an extremely exotic fever as no known hemo fever can survive through the cold european winter.
Europe also was coming out of a time of extreme famine just prior to the onset of the Black Death, so its likely that many individuals were chronically malnourished with weakened immune systems. So, it wouldn't take anything more exotic than a foreign plague bacillus to really wreak havoc.
Re:Yersinia pestis is a contender. (Score:2)
Could the social factors caused by WW1 have facilitated the virus' transmission? Probably.
I figure it's not a big stretch of imagination to equate strife with epidemics.
Arent the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse: War, Famine, Pestilence and Death?
PBS Secrets of the Dead (Score:2)
The hypothesis is that a British camp in France had a lot of soldiers in close proximity to a lot of pigs (needed to feed that many soldiers), allowing a swine flu virus to cross over to the soldiers, and then you had the soldie
Re:Yersinia pestis is a contender. (Score:2)
Re:Yersinia pestis is a contender. (Score:2)
Pestilence is planning to come out of retirement with antibiotics-resistant bacteria and new-and-improved bovine-porcine-avian flu viruses!
Re:huh? (Score:2, Insightful)
this [guardian.co.uk], and this [theanswerbank.co.uk]
Re:huh? (Score:2)
Criminal collectable cards (Score:4, Insightful)
Reading the back of the Anthrax card, it's just propaganda for kids to show mommy and daddy so they won't defund the CDC.
Bob-
Re:Criminal collectable cards (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Criminal collectable cards (Score:2)
If they were certain of their position, they wouldn't be self-agrandizing.
Bob-
Doesn't this already go on? (Score:2, Funny)
girl, you WISH i'd trade The Ninja for your Warts, get that thing away from me!!
we could even incorporate it into a card game.
I'll trade my level 34 Master Ninja for your 55 +strength Herpulox.
get me some buttah baby i'm onna ROLL!!!
Trades here (Score:1, Funny)
Let me know. Thanks.
Kids these days... (Score:4, Insightful)
Did anyone else think the text looks "sick"? (Score:1)
Pet Peeve (Score:3, Informative)
There is the Black Death, referring to a specific pandemic of Bubonic Plague in Europe in 1347-1350.
Re:My own Pet Peeve (Score:2, Funny)
There you go again, debasing our heros. Our children need diseases to aspire to.
Re:My own Pet Peeve (Score:1)
Re:Pet Peeve (Score:2, Informative)
I saw a program where they explained why the black plague of late middle ages couldn't have been the bubonic plague.
The black plague simptoms and "modus operandi" was far more related to the haemorrhagic plague than bubonic plague.
A fast google search rendered these items:
Black Death blamed on man, not rats [guardian.co.uk]
Bubonic plague didn't cause the Black Death [theanswerbank.co.uk]
But im
Re:Pet Peeve (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Pet Peeve (Score:1)
so i looked further, and here you go:
google [google.com] all you want
Most convincing argument: the only sucessfull thing against the black plague was quarentine (has proven in the pope's (living in frace at the time) and venezian records.
Rats dont respect quarentines do they?
Or just read the book:
The Return of the Black Death [forbesbookclub.com]
Re:Pet Peeve (Score:1)
rats don't respect quarantines, but depending on how a quarantine is carried out, it might also keep the rats out too. If that's the most convincing argument though, that's pretty sad. I'm not even sure what that "most convincing" item means...if it wasn't plague, quarantine works, but if it was plague, quarantine shouldn't have worked because rats dont respect it? A little sketchy, since it technically wasn't even the rats, it was the fleas. Also, early on in plague outbreak m
Re:Pet Peeve (Score:2, Informative)
(proving that the black death was not the bubonic plague that is)
Re:Pet Peeve (Score:1)
Some major-leaguer's are missing (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Some major-leaguer's are missing (Score:2, Informative)
Clearly, designed for children (Score:4, Insightful)
I think this would have given me nightmares when I was a kid (check out page 2, with the thick white membrane in the throat of the Diptheria sufferer, or the backwards-bent leg of the Polio girl)... but I think the helpful translations of scientific words would have made up for it. This snippet (from the Cyclosporiasis blurb) is a fine example:
Yeah, I'm sure the kid knows what "contaminated" means... come on, guys. Though I will forgive them not trying to explain "diarrhea" using small words.
Heh... found another one (Score:2)
work (Score:1, Troll)
Mmmm, cryptosporidiosis (Score:2)
what they're leaving out is the "or by working in a lab where a co-worker accidentally ordered viable oocysts rather than inactivated ones for his studies". Getting crypto is absolutely no fun. But it's nice to see that I've experienced 4 of the cards there (crypto, vaccines, chickenpox, and ulcer). not sure how many of the others i'm willing to try out.
Don't Stop There! (Score:3, Funny)
Facinating, in a gross kind of way... (Score:1)
The cards are kind of cool, but can be extremely gross or revolting. It's the kind of thing I wish I'd know about as a kid.
Kids get attracted by gross stuff (Score:1)
Fascinations (Score:3, Informative)
Children quickly become fascinated with things that are a part (and sometimes a horrible part) of their lives. One could say that the purpose for children is to go forth and gather diseases from schools so that they might infect their parents. And so do adults, as in the case of the Black Death and the pandemics of bubonic plague that swept Europe.
A prime case of this type of fascination is in the art of the time, such as that of Hieronymus Bosch [floridaimaging.com] and others who began drawing images of intense suffering and disease.
The death caused by these pandemics may also be seen as beneficent, as it gave rise to increased rights for the peasantry, the creation of a "middle class" and the concept of general human rights, which lead to the end of the feudal system of governments. The nobility could no longer compel peasants to work their land just for their protection and the peasantry demanded actual pay for work.
This also gave rise to the general usage of sirnames that stuck throughout generations, as the kings would tax their noblemen on the basis of the potential in numbers of persons on their lands, instead of only on the size of their holdings. When the kings revenue collectors were faced with seventeen "Johns" they would assign names to them on basis of their employment, where they lived, or how they looked instead of who their father or master was.
One can usually find the etymology of one's sirname in the common tongue of this period.
These PDFs SUCK! (Score:2)
There is no selectabe text, the bitmap text is too small.
If I flatten the whole thing and save it out as JPG I get a file 1/3 to 1/4 the size.
WTF?
and a Fun Game! (Score:3, Informative)
HP? (Score:1)
Infectious Disease? (Score:2)
Re:Infectious Disease? (Score:4, Informative)
Since the discovery of Helicobacter pylori [nih.gov], which indeed causes ulcers.
The link I gave doesn't say so, but as far as I know it is strongly suspected that it is indeed contagiuous.