Swarm of Cicadas Takes Aim at U.S. 86
wetshoe writes "'After 17 years of relative quiet, Mother Nature is bringing the noise. 'Periodical cicadas, a species of the grasshopper-like insects best known for the scratching, screeching "singing" of the males, will emerge this May, filling forests in more than a dozen states. Almost as abruptly as they arrive, they'll disappear underground for another 17 years.' The article also talks about areas in the Mid-West where 17-year June Bugs sometimes overlap with 13-year June Bugs. I remember as a child one such time, you literally couldn't walk anywhere without stepping on them, they were everywhere. Reminded me of a biblical plague."
Not June Bugs (Score:5, Informative)
Maps (Score:5, Informative)
Interestingly, they don't list any 13-year broods in 2004 (unlike CNN).
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Re:Not June Bugs (Score:5, Funny)
begin:
start uncontrolled flight
crash hard into random object
fall to ground and land on back
take 10 minutes to flip onto legs
goto begin
I really don't know what they're trying to accomplish, or why they bother when they're so bad at it.
Re:Not June Bugs (Score:2)
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hahahhaa (Score:3, Funny)
many beetles died to my sister's little mini plastic knife.
Re:Not June Bugs (Score:2)
Making more June bugs
SB
Biblical proportions? (Score:2, Funny)
Hmmm....
--Mike--
Re:Biblical proportions? (Score:4, Interesting)
A locust plague is threatening several west African nations and could affect the Middle East this spring [itechnology.co.za] The JTA adds that Rampaging swarms of locusts that darken the sky and consume everything in their path have long been one of the most feared natural phenomena in the region [jta.org]
So at least the 'big' big man is being even handed...
Re:Biblical proportions? (Score:2)
Wow! (Score:5, Funny)
June Bugs? (Score:3, Interesting)
Who here thinks that June Bugs are, in fact, these things? [cros.net] Because I certainly do. I'm from Southwestern Ontario, right between Lake Erie and Lake St. Clair, and these bugs plague towns near their shores in the spring. But we call them June Bugs... or Fish Flies, or (rarely) Mayflies. But Cicadas are something else entirely.
Odd.
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Re:June Bugs? (Score:3, Informative)
(That and the Bugs Bunny marathon on Cartoon Network.)
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A mayfly is not a junebug.
Re:June Bugs? (Score:1)
But I agree; those little dragonflies in the original post I'm pretty sure are most often known by the name mayflies.
Re:June Bugs? (Score:4, Informative)
Who here thinks that June Bugs are, in fact, these things? [mayflies]
Nope. These [hiltonpond.org] are what we called june bugs when I was growing up in Mississippi. I used to catch them all summer and store them in a jar, then release them all at once in August. Quite a sight to an elementary school kid.
We also used to amuse ourselves by tying a long thread to one of their back legs and letting them fly in circles.
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In IN at my cottage, we call those japanese beetles.
Japanese beetles [msu.edu] are smaller, shinier and have ridges on their wing covers. The ones I'm talking about [enature.com] have a dusty appearance and a small horn on their head (we also used to call them "unicorn beetles").
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Biblical plague (Score:2, Funny)
I remember as a child one such time, you literally couldn't walk anywhere without stepping on them, they were everywhere. Reminded me of a biblical plague.
Oh yeah. Remember the back in "aught 7", (BC 807, that is)? That was a doozy! I remember that as if it were yesterday... ah, the good ole days.
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Ah, yes, I remember... (Score:4, Funny)
Since then I've become an avid bicyclist. I'm a little worried about what it's going to be like riding a bike with these things flying around. Yum, extra protein, no need to stop for lunch.
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Nature will provide!
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Re:Ah, yes, I remember... (Score:3, Interesting)
Yeah, just install a scoop on your helmet
I remember many years ago riding thru parts of Iowa and Wisconsin and having to stop to clean my helmet off every few miles, especially if I was riding during the early morning hours (the best time to ride on hot summer days). You'd be flying along just fine, then there'd be a concentration of the little beasties, usually down in low spots near creeks or rivers, and it was like being sandblasted by paint gun slu
Re:Ah, yes, I remember... (Score:2)
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We loves periodical cicadas. (Score:1, Funny)
Um, so?.... (Score:3)
Re:Um, so?.... (Score:2)
My impression from the article, though, is that this particular brood is larger than most (or all?) of the others, so it will be more noticalbe than usual.
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Here in Kansas the last big emergence was in 1998. We won't see another emergence until 2015. We may get a small number of 17 year cicada (genus Magicicada), but most of what we'll see is normal, boring, dog day cicadas (genus Tibicen).
The same is true of New Jersey. There
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This year, it's time for Brood X, the so-called "Big Brood," to surface. Its range stretches from Georgia, west through Tennessee and to isolated pockets of Missouri, north along the Ohio Valley and into Michigan, and east into New Jersey and New York.
"This is one of those years we kind of dread," said Paris Lambdin, professor of entomology and plant pathology at the University of Tennessee. "We had an emergence a couple years ago around Nashville, but nothing like what we expect
Re:Um, so?.... (Score:3, Funny)
I was worried that they were like a flesh-eating variant or something.
Phew! :-)
Different bugs. (Score:2)
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where are they for the other 17 years? (Score:2)
changes with civilization (Score:1)
17 year, 13 year overlap (Score:2)
Well, let's see. Given that 17 and 13 are both prime numbers, would that mean that "sometimes" in this context actually means "221 years"?
Re:17 year, 13 year overlap (Score:3, Informative)
the chart from http://insects.ummz.lsa.umich.edu/fauna/michigan_
shows it
These couple of lines show an example
1961, 1978, 1995, 2012 - VA, WVA
1962, 1979, 1996, 2013 - CT, MD, NC, NJ, NY, PA, VA
1963, 1980, 1997, 2014 - IA, IL, MO
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Prime numbers (Score:5, Informative)
There are also species of bamboo that periodically produce tons of seeds to reproduce, but on the order of every 70 years. These too only do it on prime number years.
Who knows if he was right, but it is a cool theory.
Prime Cycles An Advantage? Yes, but not 4 all (Score:4, Interesting)
There are also species of bamboo that periodically produce tons of seeds to reproduce, but on the order of every 70 years. These too only do it on prime number years.
It's a neat theory, and it is probably true that species with life cycles which are a prime number of years have an evolutionary advantage over those whose cycles are evenly divisible, but the advantage is slight enough that his assertion there are only species with life cycles that are prime numbers is wrong.
Quoth the article:
Most are prime number cycles (probably as a result of the advantage vis-a-vis cyclic predators you cite), but NOT ALL.
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To keep things in balance, you would tend to find that it is important that the predators can survive. To make that happen, you need 'dogs'.
It would be interesting to compare the genome of various species. I'll bet you'd find that the "dog day" cicada is the more primative genetically (ie, oldest), and the non-composite dudes have more genetic variation.
Just a theory, IANAG.
Re:Prime numbers (Score:4, Interesting)
Hmm. Interesting.
My only objection is that it explains why the times are prime, but not the coincidence of them all being 17 or 13 years.
Each of the three 17-year varieties' closest relative is a different one of the four 13-year varieties, not another 17-year one. We would therefore, evolutionarily, expect that the ancestral periodic cicadia first divided into at least three species, and then each of those three divided into 13 and 17 year varieties.
So why did each of the three branches evolve both 13 and 17 year terms, but none evolved the equally prime 11 or 19 year terms? 11 and 13, or 17 and 19, are both seemingly more likely pairs than 13 and 17. Why did it become 13 and 17 three times?
Re:Prime numbers (Score:1)
If the years are in sync (but with different breeding years), two 17-year species will never "clash" in their breeding year. Similarly, two 13-year species will also never clash. If you add a species with an 11-year span, you increase the frequency of clashes with the other species: a chance of 29/221 (about 13%) per breeding cycle for *some* sort of clash, and every 2431 y
So how did they know? (Score:2)
Grasshopper - like? (Score:2)
I Remember... (Score:2, Interesting)
The end is nigh! (Score:2)
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North Carolina (Score:1)
ah, memories. (Score:1)
weird.
and they attack lawnmowers and lights, me and my friend shot at trees with bottle rockets.. that was fun.
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Time for the gas. (Score:1)
No BB guns? (and other memories) (Score:4, Informative)
During the summer, you can find their shells all over the place. They emerge with their wings folded very tightly and take about 12 hours to unfold and dry.
And remember, there's nothing that a Cocker Spaniel loves more than proudly running around with a buzzing creature in their mouth followed by a loud CRUNCH.
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You left out the worst part (Score:1, Interesting)
Next time you get dumped, just be glad you are
my pet ferret gorged himself on them (Score:1)
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Actually not all that bad, considering they're insects.
Fun Cicada Story #2: I was in Malaysia a few years back, and they have cicadas there, too.
Really BIG cicadas.
Sparrow-sized cicadas.
These things looked like flying toilet paper tubes, except heavier. The first time I saw one at night, I thought it was either a bat or a b