Cooking with the Internet? 478
VonGuard asks: "Not all of you live on ramen and coffee. At some point, you have to cook, and the Internet should be a great place to find recipes. Is there a Google for recipes. And why isn't there a larger open cookbook on the net? So, is anyone working on this, or is there something the rest of us don't know about yet?"
One suggestion... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:One suggestion... (Score:5, Informative)
Did the questioner do even a basic look around or search?
Don't forget... (Score:3, Informative)
A bit of a plug here, but still a good resource nonetheless...
Ars Bachelor Chow! [arstechnica.com]: It's a 50+ page book chock full of great (and a few not-so-great) recipes for geek bachelors. Hey, it's probably better than the bachelor chow advertised on Futurama... ^_^
Re:Cajun food, anyone? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:One suggestion... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:One suggestion... (Score:3, Informative)
Try it. Your health will thank you you'll be building up good karma and trust me, you won't smell bad
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Re:One suggestion... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:One suggestion... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:One suggestion... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:One suggestion... (Score:3, Informative)
thanks. I think its sushi for diner tonight.
I was doing some digging through old apache logs recnetly, and way back when my system was still just an old p100 off a dsl line, seems I was getting alot of hits through goodle for a couple of recipes I put up...
SO i created a cookbook section of the current site and put up at least one of the recipes...
Thing is, I can never get the basmati rice to come out right. Anyone know how to cook it persian style and wanna give me a hint?
I wash my rice w
Re:One suggestion... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:One suggestion... (Score:2, Informative)
www.foodnetwork.com has tousands of recipes you can browse as well. i watch the shows, when i see something i like, i hop online and get a list of what i need, and have it for dinner that week.
Re:One suggestion... (Score:5, Informative)
Have you tried cooking with google [researchbuzz.org]?
Cooking with google.. (Score:5, Insightful)
.. is a Google API and here's how it works:
Re:Cooking with google.. (Score:4, Funny)
"ramen noodles"
"mushrooms"
"hoisin sauce"
Re:Cooking with google.. (Score:5, Informative)
you could make a "salad" with crunched up ramen (I'm assuming you're using dry?) and sliced mushrooms, and use the hoisin sauce as a dressing.
Or you could crush the ramen, remove the mushroom stems, and mush it up with some hoisin sauce, and stuff this into the mushrooms and bake them. (a little butter will help).
YOu could make traditional ramen, add sliced mushrooms and flavor with hoisin sauce.
Or put it all a blender add water and ice, and make a mushroom, hoisin, ramen shake. Mmmmmm...
Re:Cooking with google.. (Score:4, Informative)
Hoisin is one of those sauces where the way to get the strongest flavor out of it is to heat it a bit before eating.
Re:One suggestion... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:One suggestion... (Score:5, Insightful)
Newsgroups. There are groups dedicated to recipe trading (rec.food.recipes), and on EVERY group the regulars will occasionally post their favorite recipe for something, especially if they just hacked together some good food. Just do a Google Groups search for whatever you want...it's there. Maybe it's not really organized, but who organizes things anymore? The thought these days is to throw everything in a pile with some rudimentary crosslinking, and use a search engine to ferret out whatever you're looking for.
alt.gourmand (Score:3, Interesting)
cooking on the internet (Score:3, Funny)
Re:One suggestion... (Score:3, Insightful)
Allrecipes is good, but come on, how about the red-headed stepchild of the Internet, Usenet?
rec.food.recipes [rec.food.recipes] is the logically starting point. It is moderated, and has quite a few good recipes. Google groups can turn up any number of personal recipes posted by ordinary people, not from cookbooks eminating from some faceless corporation.
I post to rec.food.cooking [rec.food.cooking] on a daily basis. Recipes are not the focus, but there are plenty there, along with cooking tips, friendly banter (i.e. flame wars), and discussi
Google is your friend (Score:4, Informative)
Here is the first result, just to get you started : Allrecipes index of 23,000 recipes [allrecipes.com].
How about Categories? Google doesn't do that? (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.cookbook.com/ [cookbook.com]
http://www.allrecipes.com/ [allrecipes.com]
http://www.foodnetwork.com/ [foodnetwork.com]
http://eat.epicurious.com/ [epicurious.com]
http://recipedelights.com/index6271m.htm [recipedelights.com]
http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/ [bbc.co.uk]
http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/ [bbc.co.uk]
http://www.recipesource.com/ [recipesource.com]
http://www.meals.com/Index/Index.aspx?Theme=0 [meals.com]
http://www.altonbrown.com/ [altonbrown.com]
BTW I did this for me so I can look them up easier! Thanks for the links everyone.
Why? (Score:4, Funny)
I like to use Food Network. I have found quite a few useful recipes there (one of my favorite was when I cooked for my gf's brother-in-law who is a vegetarian... Portabellas with spinach salad in an eggplant dressing.)
And why isn't there a larger open cookbook on the net?
I once heard a story of a woman that was eating a dessert at a restaurant and thought it was so
incredible that she just HAD to have the recipe. She asked the Chef and he at first declined but
after her continued insistance a typed sheet was delivered to the woman's table that included the
recipe and the bill. She read through the recipe and was delighted. She looked at the bill and
it was well over $500. She became infuriated and asked to see the Chef. He explained that her
bill was $100 and the cost of the receipe was $400.
Perhaps that's why,
Re:Why? (Score:5, Informative)
Foot Network [foodnetwork.com]
Re:Why? (Score:5, Funny)
Mmm, toe-jam.
Re:Why? (Score:3, Insightful)
> dessert at a restaurant and thought it was so
> incredible that she just HAD to have the recipe.
Dude, that was a famous old urban-myth email chain letter hoaxes. Go to any "Web Hoax" site and you'll find this. I got the email back in the late 90's, and it's made the rounds again every few years. The email suggested that since the customer was so angry and the store for over-charging her that you should help her seek revenge by forwarding the reci
it's an Urban Legend (Score:5, Informative)
That's a standard Urban Legend, though it's more often a cookie recipe. Check out Snopes for the details [snopes.com].
And for those disinclined to click links, a summary:
Re:it's an Urban Legend (Score:5, Funny)
Now there is sound scientific investigation!
Re:Why? (Score:3, Funny)
2- input recipies
3- ???
4- PROFIT!!!
Seriously? (Score:5, Informative)
To answer your question though, I think this [altonbrown.com] link should be more than Slashdot worthy. The show is great, sufficiently geeky, and life is simply too short not to eat.....Good Eats.
There are many, many other links to recipes on the Internet. Food Network [foodtv.com] is one and Epicurious [epicurious.com] are the other principle resources I use.
Re:Seriously? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Seriously? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Seriously? (Score:4, Interesting)
On one show, they made brownies, and showed the results of several variations. (Extra egg makes it taste bad -- add this much flour to give a nice shiny top -- and more of this to make it cakey instead of dense...)
On another, they did pasta dishes, and explained the etymology of the Italian word Putresca in Pasta Putresca. They also explained the chemistry behind cooking good pasta (At least two quarts water, so that the starch molecules are sufficiently diluted that they don't stick together while in solution)
Also, the chicks are hot.
duh (Score:2, Funny)
Seriously though, try all recipes [allrecipes.com] if you want something a little less generic.
Re:duh (Score:3, Informative)
Try this [google.ca] for chicken, or this [google.ca] for beef, and so on.
icbdb (Score:2, Interesting)
What are you talking about? (Score:5, Funny)
Several reasons against a central source. (Score:4, Informative)
I'm not sure a central repository is all that necessary. It's relatively easy to find five variations on whatever I want to cook, from which I can place a pretty educated guess as to which recipe I would rather use. (Based on ingredients, obvious "convenience substitutions", etc.) It's really a fascinating practice: looking at five different recipes, seeing their similarities and differences, learning the central core theme to the composition, and seeing where different cooks have developed their own riffs.
(I guess I'm saying that if you want a large collection of standard recipes, go buy your requisite copy of the Joy of Cooking. Otherwise, embrace heterogeneity.)
I really haven't explained why a central Google/Open/Wiki cookbook would work against this. I just think that once people saw a recipe had been submitted, they would be less inclined to upload their slightly different version. Maybe such a global project would benefit by somehow encouraging the submission of many varieties, including a "moderation system" by which culinary enthusiasts might edit the variations-on-a-theme and even write editorials on how and why the variations exist, which provide useful time-saving substitutions, when a certain ingredient of method is really necessary to make the "Real McCoy", etc.
Another thing worth mentioning: there are already dozens of "cooking sites" that provide this service, most of them are very "open" allowing easy submission and access. I think a big Open Initiative is successful when there AREN'T pre-existing sites providing a service, or when the sites try to restrict access by forcing a paid subscription model. (Like Wikipedia to online Encyclopedias.) The addition of some generic Open cooking site would become "just another cooking site".
A funny side-note. I've benefitted by the LACK of such a central source. I have a website that I've been cultivating for under a year, where I've put creative (written, artistic, photographic, computing, etc.) works. I've done everything possible to cultivate this site so that visitors would come to it. The thing that brings the most visitors to my site? My "Basic Crepe Recipe". For some funny reason nobody else in the world has a higher Google-ranked Basic Crepe Recipe. (Okay, recently I got knocked down to #2.) So this little "afterthought" has become a leading constant influx of visitors.
Every time I look for food on the net... (Score:5, Funny)
*sigh*
Re:Every time I look for food on the net... (Score:4, Insightful)
Sounds like a job for a Wiki (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm thankful I learned how to cook and cook well when I was younger, but there is ALWAYS something to learn from someone else. It's not some exact science or mysterious voodoo, just something anyone with a little creativity and some basic knowledge can build on.
PS. Experiment most when you're single
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Google is my recipe book (Score:2)
Point being, I don't see a reason to have The Whole Internet Cookbook.
PS: recipedelights.com
Jim
Re:Google is my recipe book (Score:3, Informative)
The only cooking... (Score:2)
Decent Curry (Score:3, Interesting)
Sure, most come close, but even playing indian new age music while sitting down to eat your creation just doesn't cut it!
So what's the secret?
Re:Decent Curry (Score:2)
More oil than you could possibly imagine.
Re:Decent Curry (Score:5, Informative)
There is also the Gits brand, which offers many type of dessert mixes you can prepare easily. I've always liked the fried milk balls, and with a 2$ pouch I can make enough to last for a week.
Then there's the Haldiram's Soan. Oh my God, I can't even describe it. A mix between Halvah and cotton candy, with an exotic flowery aroma? Anyways, at 5$ for a pound of them, you can't go wrong.
Re:Decent Curry (Score:4, Informative)
I'm sorry, but the secret should NEVER be a specific brand of spice blends. Seriously. The secret is probably a spice or spices that are hard to find in american supermarkets, but that doesn't mean you should stick to one name brand of spices.
Sorry, I guess I should explain my paranoia. You see, I have this thought that were I to move, and be uprooted from my network of grocery stores, I may not be able to find the same brands later on. Thus, I feel that I cannot get too attached to brands, and instead need to learn the core essence of cooking and how to make things from scratch.
However, it is true you might be able to find certain ethnic ingredients only at those stores. For example, sichuan peppercorns are now banned for sale in the US (there was a NY Times article on it, technically they're considered a fruit). I cook a LOT of chinese food, sichuan in particular, so I managed to get them from behind the counter thanks to flirting with the girl who works at the local chinese supermarket (where they speak next to no english).
You'd be surprised what you can find at these 'hole in the wall' ethnic places.
Why does it have to be centralised? (Score:2)
All somebody needs do to contribute is post their favourite recipes to their personal web and let the search engines do the rest.
Specialty Recipes (Score:5, Funny)
Great recipes on this here Internet (Score:2, Funny)
Anyone tried this "cream of somyungai" that I keep hearing so much about?
Hack your food (Score:5, Funny)
My idea (Score:2)
Anything like this? I have cookbooks, but damn, that is some complicated shit. I want easy stuff. Like how to make ramen GOOD. What goes well with ramen besides the salt packet they give you? What about easy to make wraps or sandwiches?
Basic Dirty Martini (Score:5, Funny)
Vodka (chilled)
Dry Vermouth (chilled)
Olives
Olive Juice
Martini Glass
Mixing
1. Add as much Vodka as you'd like to drink
2. Splash in some vermouth to taste
3. Splash in some olive juice, until you can't taste the vermouth anymore
4. Add an olive or two
5. Drink!
Optional Extras
1. If the ingredients are not already cold, you may pre-mix in a shaker full of ice, and then strain the liquid into your martini glass. Ice may be used directly if you don't mind diluting the vodka.
2. Vodka mixes well with everything. Try additional ingredients to make new and unique martinis.
Perfect Martini. (Score:5, Funny)
Vodka (chilled)
Dry Vermouth (chilled)
Flashlight.
Martini Glass.
Olive.
Toothpick or Skewer.
Step 1: Pour Vodka into Martini Glass.
Step 2: Place Bottle of Vermouth in front of Martini Glass.
Step 3: Shine flashlight through Vermouth towards Martini glass.
Step 4: Put away flashlight and Vermouth bottle.
Step 5: Skewer Olive. Place in glass.
Done! =)
Re:Basic Dirty Martini (Score:3, Funny)
Yeah, especially more vodka.
Re:Basic Dirty Martini (Score:3, Informative)
For the adventurous... (Score:3, Interesting)
...there's always Epicurious [epicurious.com].
I've found many a tasty recipe on there, but then, I love cooking and don't mind buying some wacky ingredients or spending extra time whipping something up.
Wikibooks-cookbook (Score:5, Informative)
STFW (Score:2, Insightful)
I mean, really
Lots of these places let you submit your own recipes, many let you rate and comment on them. There isn't much interest in an internet-wide p2p schema of recipes because, well, it's not really something that's needed such a trading scheme before. Use a blog, paste the recipe in, google will pick it up in a couple days.
I'm no
Favorite geek recipes... (Score:2, Funny)
Recipes make money (Score:3, Insightful)
BBC Food (Score:5, Informative)
John
Re:BBC Food (Score:4, Funny)
Recipesource.com (Score:3, Informative)
http://www.recipesource.com/
I recommend the apple roast hadrosaur.
Here's a classic. (Score:5, Interesting)
That's not the only food-related internet use (Score:2)
Forget cooking.
I personally find the internet (small-I by the way) a much greater help to find restaurants of all kinds, big or small, dear or cheap.
One of my favorite past-time is to roam the countryside trying to find unknown small restaurants that serve good home-made or mom-and-pop food, or perhaps unusual food of some kind, trying to stay clear away from well-known dining places, chains, fast food joints and ot
Google Hack for recipes (Score:2)
Well, there's a Google hack [researchbuzz.org] for recipes that seems to work okay. You put in the ingredients that you have on hand and it tries to find recipes using those ingredients.
Oddly enough, I just saw this on someone's weblog earlier today. Synchronicity is a peculiar thing.
Uhh Google? (Score:2)
Google for Recipes -- speak of the devil... (Score:2)
rec.food.recipes @ google [google.com]
Epicurious (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Epicurious (Score:5, Informative)
Best recipe (Score:2)
Revers cook-book (Score:2)
I need RFID readers in the kitchen which tie directly into my fridge-mounted, internet-connected, touch-screen, Xterminal, cookbook! ;-)
As much as RFID's make me nervous, I can see this as an inevitable commonplace in the future.
Hmmm... (Score:3, Funny)
1) Make an open-source cookbook
2) ???
3) Profit!
Also, IP doesn't protect recepies (Score:4, Interesting)
That means that if someone wrote a proper web-crawling recipe snarfer that stored the recipes in a database (without stealing the formatting or stealing a particular collection), it should be intellectual property free and fully public domain!
Definitely a good weekend hacker challenge....
Braddock Gaskill
Re:Also, IP doesn't protect recepies (Score:3, Interesting)
To be kosher (no pun intended), your web-crawler needs to seperate out the ingrediants and the procedure into an objective form that doesn't steal the original description. "BAKE 20 minutes on 250 degrees"
How about this Google hack? (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.researchbuzz.org/archives/001404.shtml [researchbuzz.org]
SOAR has 70,000 recipes (Score:5, Informative)
Here's the skinny from their About Us page:
While RecipeSource may be one of the newest recipe sites on the Internet, we're also one of the oldest. Our collection was started in 1993 by Jennifer Snider when she discovered the wonders of Usenet newsgroups & Internet mailing lists as a student at the University of California at Berkeley. She started saving recipes posted to those sources and soon amassed thousands of recipes. When her friends found out about the collection, we encouraged her to put them on the web, and she agreed, provided we helped her. After several months of hard work, the recipes first appeared on the web in 1995 as SOAR: The Searchable Online Archive of Recipes. From our start with around 10,000 recipes we've grown the collection to 7 times that size, and had our pages accessed millions of times from around the world. Thanks to our popularity, we've outgrown our original home, so we've moved the collection here to RecipeSource.com, where we hope it will continue to grow, while providing better response time and a better search engine than our old site.
Recipe Index (Score:5, Informative)
this is funny (Score:5, Informative)
Granted all my recipes are family recipes and it's nowhere near ready for mass consumption but there are recipes everywhere. allrecipes.com has already been mentioned but there are some other good sites:
http://www.recipesource.com/
http://www.
http://eat.epicurious.com/
http:
Of course if you are looking for something google can be your best resource.
Hopefully I will eventually have something that I feel is good enough to release. While I am using mysql, since I am using dbi (for the perl end) and qt for the c++ end it should be able to use any database that these support with just a recompile. Let me know if there is really an interest in this and I could try and release something soon. I'd give my web site but it's on my cablemodem which I'm not supposed to run a server off of.
SOAR (Score:3, Informative)
anyway, they still have a large collection of pretty good recipes
Uhh, whole channel dedicated to it... (Score:3, Informative)
-Vic
Life's too short (Score:3, Informative)
Some gems from Project Gutenberg (Score:4, Informative)
Mrs. Beeton's Book of Household Management [gutenberg.net]
Moxon's English Housewifery Exemplified [gutenberg.net]
Two interesting early vegetarian cook-books:
The Healthy Life Cook-Book [gutenberg.net]
The Reform Cookery Book [gutenberg.net]
Of historical interest:
The Form Of Cury [gutenberg.net] -- in Middle English.
This is just a sample -- there are many more (search Gutenberg.net [gutenberg.net] for 'cook' or 'cookery').
An interesting recipe finder (Score:3, Interesting)
How to cook with the Internet (Score:3, Funny)
2. Place article about SCO on hard drive.
3. Post URL of article to Slashdot
4. Let cook for 15-20 minutes
5. Serve and eat!
*Use article about Gnome vs. KDE for higher altitudes
In French... (Score:3, Informative)
Google Recipe Search (Score:3, Interesting)
Google rec.food.recipes (Score:3, Informative)
where to find recipes and other culinary info (Score:3, Informative)
XML for cooks (Score:3, Interesting)
It should be fairly easy to design, and it would probably be nice to have cooking instructions standardized.
Re:XML for cooks (Score:3, Interesting)
It looks cool and geekish, but utterly ignores the fact that there is *already* a fairly well understood format and syntax for writing recipies. (Most any decent book on writing cookbooks will discuss these.) For example, there is a difference between 4 cups of tomatoes, chopped and 4 cups of chopped tomatoes, yet anyone familiar with the syntax will see this instantly.
In addition to this basic style,
Cook's Illustrated: For Cooking Geeks (Score:3, Informative)
Cook's Illustrated [cooksillustrated.com] selects recipes and exhaustively tests variations to come up with the easiest or best tasting recipe. They investigate why certain varieties of potatoes are good in different recipes, for instance. They'll explain why you should soak fries in ice water before frying them. They'll explain the tricks in getting the meringue right.
If you want recipes with the best results for the effort or you want to learn the underlying theory, Cook's is great. (They also have a PBS show called America's Test Kitchen.)
uh... there is a google for cookbooks... (Score:3, Informative)
*Shrug*
e.
Who needs a recipe? (Score:3, Funny)
If we think we have all the spices, we then see if we have the other ingredients. If we think we have everything, we try to decide how it should be prepared.
We then run the plan. We taste it along the way to ensure what we expect to happen is actually happening. If we need to (and we are able to), we make changes along the way.
When the cooking is done, we put it in front of the other family members for a quality taste test. If it passes (and it normally does), dinner is served. If not, we head out for a shrink wrapped meal.
Innerweb
What's an oz.? (Score:3, Insightful)
Now if everyone just started to comply with internationally agreed upon standards (metric units) I wouldn't get the same uneasy feeling I have when receiving a Word-attachment whenever I read an American/English recipe on the net. It's time for a W3C validator for recipes!
Re:Indian cooking (Score:2)