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Slowing Down Atoms And Biomolecules With Lasers 32

Posted by timothy from the no-sharks-involved dept.
Tokyokid writes "In an interview on Berkeley Groks, Nobel Laureate Steve Chu talks about cooling atoms down using lasers. In another words, the atoms or molecules are slowed down in this "optical molasses." Scientists now are using these techniques to study the interactions and forces between biomolecules. These studies may give a better understanding of how life works on the molecular level."
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  • nope (Score:4, Funny)

    by H4x0r Jim Duggan ( 757476 ) on Monday March 01, 2004 @08:59PM (#8436042) Homepage Journal
    Lasers heat things up, not cool things down. Jeez, hasn't this guy ever seen a movie?

    • Re:nope (Score:5, Informative)

      by ciaran_o_riordan ( 662132 ) on Monday March 01, 2004 @09:05PM (#8436102) Homepage
      The idea is that you want to reduce the average velocity of these atoms down to a very very low speed and that's what they really mean by cooling the temperatures and measuring the average motional energy of these atoms. You do this by shining light on the atoms.

      As the light scatters from the atoms, they cool down. The trick is to arrange the light to preferentially scatter off of photons opposing the motion and this is done simply by tuning the frequency of the light so that when the atoms are moving towards this laser beam, it has a frequency shift called the Doppler shift that actually shifts it more into resonance.

      • Re:nope (Score:2, Interesting)

        by Kethinov ( 636034 )
        The important question then, I suppose, is how cold can you get them with "light-cooling"?

        If this technique were to develop well enough, it could spawn a whole new method of refridgeration.
      • You know that I have no way of knowing whether or not you're just pulling this stuff out of your ass. All of this is indistinguishable from dialogue from an episode of Doctor Who to me.

    • Re:nope (Score:2, Informative)

      by P-Nuts ( 592605 )

      Lasers heat things up, not cool things down.

      The energy from the absorbed laser photons is not lost, so there is a heating effect somewhere. The experimental setups are clever enough that the atoms are cooled, but since each atom in the process of being cooled reradiates as many photons in random directions as it absorbs, these are free to go off and heat things up. In a typical experiment, they will hit the stainless steel walls of the vacuum chamber and heat them up very slightly.

      In case anyone is inte

  • Maybe we can use this technique (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward
    to slow down Darl McBride

  • Compton scattering (Score:3, Insightful)

    by aurum42 ( 712010 ) on Monday March 01, 2004 @10:20PM (#8436627)
    Is this related to Compton scattering (usually between an electron and a photon)? As I recall, there's a cos(Theta) term there, so the energy transfer could go either way between the electron and the photon. This also sounds a lot like how the bose-einstein condensate (a recently discovered "new state" of matter, and cause of a nobel) was created.

    • Re:Compton scattering (Score:1, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Is this related to Compton scattering (usually between an electron and a photon)?

      Nope.

      This also sounds a lot like how the bose-einstein condensate (a recently discovered "new state" of matter, and cause of a nobel) was created.

      Yep.

    • Re:Compton scattering (Score:2, Informative)

      by P-Nuts ( 592605 )

      Is this related to Compton scattering (usually between an electron and a photon)?

      It isn't particularly related, except that the ideas of quantum mechanics that are demonstrated in the Compton effect are important for understanding laser cooling.

      Compton scattering is an elastic collision of a photon (usually a rather high energy one, like an X-ray) and an electron. The target electron is initially a free stationary particle.

      Laser cooling involves the absorption of a photon (probably visible or infra-red

  • What's new? (Score:3, Informative)

    by QuantumFTL ( 197300 ) * on Monday March 01, 2004 @11:46PM (#8437259)
    Not to troll but... this technique has been used for years! I've seen the setups (I still remember the issue of Scientific American that had a story about this - one of the reasons I went into physics).

    I guess it's not a bad interview, but was there something groundbreaking in there I missed? Or is this just one of those "it's not news, but it's still for nerds" things?

    Cheers,
    Justin
    • Seeing as how you're [cornell.edu] on the "inside" of this [nasa.gov] thing...care to spill on any details of what the Big Announcement [bbc.co.uk] will be about tomorrow?
      • Seeing as how you're on the "inside" of this thing...care to spill on any details of what the Big Announcement will be about tomorrow?

        Well I'm not allowed to say, except that it's worth watching :-D

        It's important, and it's good news. And it involves rocks. On mars. That's all I can say.

        It's worth waiting for :)

        Cheers,
        Justin Wick
    • Not to troll but... this technique has been used for years!

      Indeed, Chu took the 1997 Nobel prize in physics [nobel.se] along with Phillips and Cohen-Tannoudji. The Nobel site includes an illustrated presentation of how laser cooling works.

    • Agreed. I had to answer questions about this on my finals papers in my physics degree three years ago!... how is this news exactly?

      Daniel
      • I believe it's the application of this technique to biomolecules, as opposed to individual atoms. Something as big as a protein or peptide tends to be fragile, so I'd be curious as to how they do it.

        I did experiments in grad school which condensed various organic molecules into small clusters via "supersonic expansion," but that only cools to 5 Kelvins or so. Putting more molecules into lower rovibronic states would make it easier to do experiments, as you have a better defined starting point.
    • Nope. This really isn't stuff that matters, nor is it news. Chu won the Nobel for it 7 years ago (along with Claude-Tannoudji and Phillips).
  • I think it's high time someone thought about cooling atoms down. Those little buggers, when they get excited and hot, they start bumping into things.
  • An "ice gun" based on this could end up being the BOFH's new weapon...

    Imagine a new era in document destruction. For example, aim at the "Helpdesk software backup" tape the boss is holding, and fire!

    Imagine a new way to torture lusers, replacing the tried-and-true (boring) staple-gun. Especially handy when aimed at certain parts of the body. Shoot it discreetly into a Bean Counter's coffee and watch their stunned reaction

    Yep, it sure is good.

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