Do-It-Yourself Electronic Enigma Machine 213
Radio Shack Robot writes "The Enigma-E is a DIY Building Kit that enables you to build your own electronic variant of the famous Enigma coding machine that was used by the German army during WWII. It works just like a real Enigma and is compatible with an M3 and M4 Enigma as well as the standard Service Machines. A message encrypted on, say, a real Enigma M4 can be read on the Enigma-E and vice versa."
What's the point? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:What's the point? (Score:5, Funny)
If you're not going to do the real thing, why not just make a software replica?
What kind of geek are you? Don't you find it cool to have tons of useless hardware laying around???
Re:What's the point? (Score:3, Funny)
Hey! Real geeks find it cool to have useless software and useless hardware lying around!!! Anyway I'm off to play The Grinch on my dreamcast... ;-)
Re:What's the point? (Score:5, Insightful)
Maybe for the same reason that it's more fun to fly an airplane than to fly MS Flight Simulator, even if you're not flying an F-16. Simulations are nice, but sometimes you just want to get away from your computer and play with tangible things. And just because it's not the historical Enigma doesn't mean it's not cool in its own right.
Re:What's the point? (Score:2)
It's cool in its own right (which for me is mostly just novelty) but it's also not cool in a lot of others. I'd personally prefer to spend my time away from my computer playing with tangible things that aren't just basically old computers.
Re:What's the point? (Score:2)
Ah, but there's an important difference. A flight simulator is not functionally equivalent to flying a plane. Flying a plane can get you from A to B much quicker than driving. It is a form of transportation. A flight simulator will get you nowhere.
A software enigma however is functionally equivalent to the real thing. Both can encrypt and decrypt the same messages. One
Re:What's the point? (Score:4, Interesting)
2. educational purposes
3. more tangible interface than multi-tasking keyboard/mouse + monitor
4. hobbyist mentality
5. nostalgia to pre-PC era
there are ways to achieve the same result, and obviously some people prefer harder and more time-consuming way. Also for some people writing code may take more time than building a DIY kit. some people prefer to drive 67 mustang than 03 accord or mercedes. others ride a bicycle.
Re:What's the point? (Score:5, Interesting)
Steve Ciarcia of Circuit Cellar [circuitcellar.com] fame once said "Soldering iron is my favorite computer language."
Well, it's mine too. For those who don't know who Steve is, there was this magazine on the newstands that was really cool to read and it was called "Byte" [byte.com]. Steve ranked up there with the Woz for hardware crafting.
I remember back in the day when you would go to the store and it was the only computer magazine there.
If you like crafting hardware, you can have a lot of fun by finding a library (most likely university) that has the back issues shelved somewhere.
Yes, I'm older than most of you here.
Re:What's the point? (Score:5, Funny)
Oh those computers, they were as big as a barn, and every time we booted them we'd have to punch in every line of *bonk!*
Re:What's the point? (Score:3, Funny)
I donno.. (Score:4, Informative)
Steve is smart, dont get me wrong, and did a lot of cool things ( yes i remember back then too, or even earlier with Popular Electronics.... ) but Steve had much more modern chips to work with, and used databooks for 'ideas' far too often..
Woz had to come up with the stuff from scratch...
Re:What's the point? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:What's the point? (Score:3, Informative)
Actually, his wrongness was very subtle. First of all, he may very well have read somewhere that crypt(3) was based on enigma. That is all he claimed, isn't it? (I guess careful reading of posts isn't required on SlashDot either, not even by people who are anal about accuracy.)
Still, he did manage to pick out something called "crypt" as having been based on Enigma. My guess is that he uses Linux. His Linux distro probably no longer comes with a crypt utility (I ran int
Re:What's the point? (Score:2)
My apologi
A more astounding wrongness. (Score:2, Informative)
UNIX, and by implecation the encryption of passwords in
I was actualy USING Unix version 7 when the adoption of DES as a standard was being debated. My Version 7 UNIX manuals (all two volumes) are boxed away somewhere. I recall a warning in the manual about the enigma based cry
Re:A more astounding wrongness. (Score:2)
Re:What's the point? (Score:5, Insightful)
The comments on Slashdot are a kind of peer review system. Errors are often quickly pointed out, opinions are rebutted, and we all meander slowly toward better knowledge. That's what I like about it. It's not a bug, it's a feature.
Original Messages (Score:5, Interesting)
I wonder if there is anywhere to get original Nazi Enigma messages to decode.
Re:Original Messages (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Original Messages (Score:2, Funny)
Or were all those trollish (?) rumours of eco-Nazis true!?
RTFA (Score:5, Informative)
Re:RTFA (Score:3, Funny)
"Space Chase" translated to italian, to german, to french, to english, is "continuation of sector".
Re:Original Messages (Score:4, Funny)
Here you go..
Decode this. [216.10.109.153]
Re:Original Messages (Score:2)
Oh well, some people have no sense of humour
Re:Original Messages (Score:3, Funny)
Yes but where can I get some original Nazi's to send them to?
Re:Original Messages (Score:5, Informative)
Well, the flippant answer is Argentina (Or Brazil).
On a more serious note, you might try Latvia [www.dol.ru]; in 1998 about 500 Latvians, former members of the Waffen-SS marched through Riga to celebrate the 55th anniversary of the SS.
Up until 1996, you could have looked in Indiana in the United States [aeronautics.ru]:
Interestingly, the amount of the pension paid to these former SS by the German government varies based on their final rank in the SS -- higher ranks get a bigger pension. Only recently -- and only after international pressure -- did the German government modify its pension law to strip the pension from war criminals, and even so, there is no requirement that any investigation be made of recipients, nor is there any mechanism to do so, so even known war criminals can continue to collect payments from the German government.
Ironically, some war criminals even receive, in addition to their normal pensions what are called "victim's" pensions -- including those believed to have massacred American soldiers. The following [remember.org] was written in 1997, and thus may be slightly out of date:
At the same time that Germany provides monthly pension payments to former members of the SS and war criminals, persons forced to be slave laborers for the Nazi regime get far less [tomhayden.com]:
So, frankly, any Old Folks (Pensioner's) Home in Germany should provide you with plenty of "original Nazis", living comfortably thanks to the largess of the current German government, while their victims -- those who survived at all, those who haven't died while waiting for their reparations -- continue to suffer.
(Of course, I will now be modded down as an anti-German racist [slashdot.org], becaus
Re:Original Messages (Score:5, Insightful)
Well, no. You should be modded down as an anti-soldier bigot.
There's a very good chance that your country has soldiers engaged in a military action that others see as warfare against an ethnic group. Presumably those soldier continue their action because they have promised on their honour to uphold their country's decisions.
Should the US soldier in Iraq be shunned for participating in an illegal war? Should the Israeli soldier dropping bombs on Palestinian houses be scapegoated for killing civilians?
Well, yes, probably they should: the world would be a lot better if every common person were to just act decently toward every other human being.
But we don't: they are soldiers who committed to doing what they are being told by our own elected governments to do, and out of respect for that commitment we promise to look after them for life.
Well, okay, maybe not for life, as some of our countries seem a little too eager to cut back veteran's pay and healthcare and long-term group home care. But for most of their life. An admittedly short life given that some of our countries seem a little too reluctant to supply airworthy helicopters or bulletproof vests.
Come to think of it, maybe our own nations are anti-soldier bigots. How ironic...
Re:Original Messages (not quite good enough....) (Score:5, Insightful)
The former poster wrote about the German Government's maintaining pensions to former Nazi soldiers without regard to actions during their service (e.g., a mass-murderer getting extra money for being wounded trying to escape). He suggests that there is an injustice in this because nazi victims often received less compensation.
The latter poster, claiming that the former is bigoted against soldiers is missing or ignoring the former's main (and quite simple) point: people who should have been tried for crimes against humanity should probably not receive more compensation than those who narrowly escaped them.
In arguing for a nation's love for and responsibility to the men who serve it as soldiers, and extending it by obtuse omission to war-criminals, the second poster ignores historical precedent and insults the soldiers of every army that ever had fought for any decent purpose.
The outcome of the trial of Adolf Eichmann in Jerusalem made it perfectly clear that *some* military orders (shooting unarmed civilians, murdering soldiers who surrender, etc.) should not and cannot be obeyed.
When such orders are given, it is the soldier's duty to think not of his country but of civilisation and do whatever is necessary to not carry out those orders and some soldiers have actually done just that--like Israeli pilots who refused to take part in missions against the palestinians.
The comparison of Nazi units charged murdering jews, allied prisoners, securing slave-labor, etc. is particularly insulting in that the United State's invasion and occupation of Iraq is one of the worst decisions an American President has made in decades. The whole thing was and is a bad idea--a stupid and naive pursuit of political gain and personal desire which can in no way be seen as commensurate with the United State's security, nor with the stability of the Middle-East.
I believe all of this is true with respect to the dog's breakfast of policy in Iraq, however the mission brief of U.S. soldiers currently serving in the Gulf probably does not include 'aid in the work of rounding up the intelligentsia for early extermination,' nor any one of scores of other tasks that the Nazis acommplished throughout occupied Europe.
For the sake of intellectual rigor if nothing else, Please think through your comparisons more thoroughly in future.
Re:Original Messages (Score:4, Insightful)
I would only like to respectfully point out a few things. It doesn't say what I think as clearly as I would like, but bear with me.
1) The definition of a war crime varies widely from person to person. If we are talking about deliberate attacks/massacres on civilians, then I am certain you could dig up quite a few American (and other Allies) veterans who fall in that category and still have their pensions. Have you read about Dresden? The allies planned their bombings on the surrounding cities and left Dresden intact so the refugees would all be packed there. And then dropped one of the deadliest bombings in WWII on their heads. We're talking bombing a city packed with refugees, with no military value, to kill over 30,000 people in a day.
2) Never forget that the "justice" of war is always that of the victorious side, and therefore, in my opinion, it is no justice at all. When the defeated party kills thousands of civilians, it's a war crime. When the victor does just about the same, well, it sucks, but it was war.
Quote from the first link up in google for Dresden World War bombing) [valourandhorror.com]:
[British Chief Marshal Sir Arthur] Harris, however, remained unrepentant, commenting on Churchill's objection that he did not regard 'the whole of the remaining cities of Germany as worth the bones of one British Grenadier'. Even so, Dresden remains the prime example cited by those who condemn the morality of 'city busting' as practised by the Anglo-US bombing forces and was still a matter of contention in 1992 when a statue of Harris was unveiled in London."
Was there a tribunal to investigate possible war crimes by Allied troups in WWII? Of course not: they won. Therefore, we necessarily know more about horrible acts commited by the defeated party than we do for the winning one.
I'm not defending Nazi Germany policies of mass exterminations. They are a clear example of humanity gone wrong. But while they are not on the same scale as other examples, they are not the only example of humans gone wrong. And that is my point: nothing is absolute when it comes to human nature.
Have you ever visited Germany, or walked grounds ravaged by war? Seen the legacy of damage done by both sides? Visited Dresden? The concentration camps sites? Talked with people who were there when the bombs fell and survived? I did. And I found there even more truth in a saying some here would recognize : "Understanding is a three edged sword: your side, their side, and the truth."
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Re:Original Messages (Score:2)
And then some...
How much of a role does intent have in determining whether an action constituted a war crime? Or is it results?
WRT Dresden, one book indicated that the death toll was more like 130,000+ and also stated that there was no military purpose. If you look at the timing, te decision to destroy Dresden may have retaliation for the Battle of the Bulge.
WRT civilian deaths, the largest war related civilian death toll is the Influ
Re:Original Messages (Score:2)
A soldier is also a slave laborer
This comparison is wrong. No German government today (and esp. not the current Socia
Re:Original Messages (Score:2)
Blame the problems for 'slave workers' on the allied forces that didn't make a rule
Holy Christ. How about we blame problems for slave laborers (and I'll dispense with your disbelieving quote marks) on the fucking Nazis who enslaved them???
No, you want to blame the Allies???
Don't forget that in London the Queen even erected a memorial for a war criminal. And
The problem with decoding original nazi messages.. (Score:4, Funny)
Here's my Electronic Enigma Machine (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Here's my Electronic Enigma Machine (Score:4, Informative)
Sadly this module has been marked for deprecation in python 2.3, though it is still there. I found the module very useful for some things --- a simple, light weight encryption can be a handy thing. Everyone knows that it is weak encryption these days though... but still useful, in my opinion.
Electronic Version? Why not just use software (Score:5, Interesting)
Maybe I don't understand WWII fandom, but I understand geekfandom, and if you're going to build something that used to be a gear device, I don't wanna emulate it on my dreamcast.
Now what would be cool is to build the vacuum tube based machine the allies used to crack various codes...
Re:Electronic Version? Why not just use software (Score:2)
Who would want an electronic version of the Enigma machine? You could just code one up in python or even write a bash script.
Yeah, but having the quasi-real *hardware* is cool, too.
Now what would be cool is to build the vacuum tube based machine the allies used to crack various codes...
I don't know about tubes, but transistors would be good (less problems, easier to replace). Either way it would be nice to have some replica hardware, just for nostalgia if nothing else. Knowing that modern computer
Re:Electronic Version? Why not just use software (Score:5, Funny)
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Churchill? Far sighted? (Score:2)
Re:Electronic Version? Why not just use software (Score:2)
Enigma-replica [enigma-replica.com]. Though this guy tries to make all the parts as an original, he uses a lot of plastic rather than metal.
You mean like this? (Score:3, Interesting)
The bombe [demon.co.uk] was the first significant such electo-mechanical device used by the allies. Based on the Polish Bomba, incidentally.
Later they turned to Colossus [codesandciphers.org.uk], thought by many to be the first true computer.
Both are being rebuilt at Bletchely Park by a team of volunteers. Very cool, in my opinion.
How does it work ?? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:How does it work ?? (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:How does it work ?? (Score:5, Informative)
The machine has several variable settings that affect the operation of the machine. The user must select three rotors from a set of rotors to be used in the machine. A rotor contains one-to-one mappings of all the letters. Some Enigma machines had more than 3 rotors which just added to the number of possible encryption combinations. The other variable element in the machine is the plug board. The plug board allowed for pairs of letters to be remapped before the encryption process started and after it ended.
When a key is pressed, an electrical current is sent through the machine. The current first passes through the plug board, then through the three rotors, through the reflector which reverses the current, back through the three rotors, back through the plug board and then the encrypted letter is lit on the display. After the display is lit up, the rotors rotate. The rotors rotate similar to an odometer where the right most rotor must complete one revolution before the middle rotor rotated one position and so on.
As the current passes through each component in the Enigma machine, the letter gets remapped to another letter. The plug board performed the first remapping. If there is a connection between two letters, the letters are remapped to each other. For example if there is a connection between "A" and "F", "A" would get remapped to "F" and "F" would get remapped to "A". If this isn't a connection for a particular letter, the letter doesn't get remapped. After the plug board, the letters are remapped through the rotors. Each rotor contains one-to-one mappings of letters but since the rotors rotate on each key press, the mappings of the rotors change on every key press. Once the current passes through the rotors, it goes into the reflector. The reflector is very similar to a rotor except that it doesn't rotate so the one-to-one mappings are always the same. The whole encryption process for a single letter contains a minimum of 7 remappings (the current passes through the rotors twice) and a maximum of 9 remappings (if the letter has a connection in the plug board).
In order to decrypt a message, the receiver must have the encrypted message, and know which rotors were used, the connections on the plug board and the initial settings of the rotors. To decrypt a message, the receiver would set up the machine identically to the way the sender initially had it and would type in the encrypted message. The output of typing in the encrypted message would be the original message. Without the knowledge of the state of the machine when the original message was typed in, it is extremely difficult to decode a message.
Re:How does it work ?? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:How does it work ?? (Score:3, Funny)
Thanks now I know how an Enigma machine works, now can anyone tell me what the heck a typewriter is?
Re:How does it work ?? (Score:5, Informative)
Who needs one? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Who needs one? (Score:3, Funny)
I say, could'nt make that two could you old boy?
Re:Who needs one? (Score:3, Funny)
I thought that it was the US Navy. Did U-571 lie to me?
Re:Who needs one? (Score:2, Funny)
I thought that it was the US Navy. Did U-571 lie to me?
U-571 had it right... Bletchly Park is just part of a British disinformation program to make you think we were involved in the D-Day landings.
Re:Who needs one? (Score:4, Informative)
The construction of the Enigma wasn't really the problem. The Enigma had been in use since the early 30s and the Poles knew exactly how they worked, and later shared that with the Allies as war grew closer and Poland was invaded. Decoding a message required knowing the settings used. At Bletchley Park they built "bombes" (originally following a Polish design) that could run decodes automatically hundreds of times faster than a real Enigma to try out the huge number of possible initial settings.
Actually a great deal of their success in decoding was due to sloppy methods used by the Germans. Having messages begin in a predictable way was a "crib" that enabled good guesses to be made of the settings. And even more directly, capturing code books with schedules of code settings, as was done several times, (but not by the Americans as was depicted in U571). If the Germans had used the Enigmas with due care they never would have been cracked.
However, it's rarely noted that the Germans were almost as good at decoding Allied signals. There's very little written about that, but I have seen notes that they could read just about any Royal Navy code, for instance.
Enigma worked by looking like nonsense (Score:5, Interesting)
An Enigma-based crypto engine for binary data might be quite the interesting modern update. Especially because a brute force guessing of a 256-byte wheel would take a long time, and three wheels on top of each other would send the probablities of guessing your way into it into the stratosphere.
Re:Enigma worked by looking like nonsense (Score:3, Interesting)
An Enigma-based crypto engine for binary data might be quite the interesting modern update. Especially because a brute force guessing of a 256-byte wheel would take a long time, and three wheels on top of each other would send the probablities of guessing your way into it into the stratosphere.
Granted Enigma encryption is weak by today's standards, I think this would be interesting nonetheless. But with today's hardware, we could add arbitrarily many rotors (wheels) with negligible speed difference. I a
Re:Enigma worked by looking like nonsense (Score:5, Interesting)
Then again, what better way to remind people that longer keys equals more power?
Re:Enigma worked by looking like nonsense (Score:2, Insightful)
The point of cryptography is to take a big secret, like a file, and turn it into a little secret which is the key. The idea being that a small secret is easier to protect than the bigger one.
A key that's 256,000 bytes long is a key that defeats the object of cryptography. How do you intend on storing 256,000 bytes securely?
People use 128-bit keys for a reason. They're big enough to avoid brute-force but small enough so that we can remember them (usually via a passphrase). We al
Re:Enigma worked by looking like nonsense (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Enigma worked by looking like nonsense (Score:3, Informative)
Er.. 256,000 bytes is less than 256Kb - you can fit almost 3000 of them on a CD. Keys are supposed to be as random as possible - if it compresses significantly its not random (listen (cat to
Re:Enigma worked by looking like nonsense (Score:2, Interesting)
The thing is, in modern crytography we simply don't need a rotor. A rotor system could be made very complicated indeed and complication is not good for security. Most ciphers use a static substitution as their non-linear step because when designing a cipher we want it to be simple to analyse.
That might sound counter-intuative but think about it. If I can prove my cipher can withstand attacks A,
Re:Enigma worked by looking like nonsense (Score:5, Informative)
One of the interesting weaknesses of the Enigma cypher was no letter could be encoded as itself. One part of the cracking process was to look for messages that had a known content (weather reports were a favorate, the Germans were very keen on standard formats in their reports) This could be used to narrow down the number of possible keys
Source [mlb.co.jp] A tired German operator has been told to send out dummy messages and he typed only the last letter of the keyboard : ``L''. The British code breaking expert immediately recognized the missing ``L'' in the enciphered message and they got a very big crib.
* [cipher]DAOACQAOFFNNHDYAPSGZHEPTWCFZEPAARVDZOSWJDH XMESGWSGRQYOZL LLLLL
* [plain] LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Re:Enigma worked by looking like nonsense (Score:5, Interesting)
Like many cryptographics systems, it was not beaten soley by technology. Human factors also played a factor. The Germans believed so much in the technology that they did not address the humans as much.
The Luftwaffe messages were consistently broken because they did stupid things. Some operators sent the same propaganda message at the same time every day. Part of the setting for every message was for the operator to choose a random message specific key. Lazy operators used the same key over and over again.
The Navy was more careful but humans also foiled the system. Instead of letting the operators choose a message key, they had a code book for the choosing the key and a code book for the other settings. All code books were printed on paper that disintegrated in water. One of the duties of a UBoat captain was to toss the books and the machine into the sea if they had to abandon ship or were about to be captured. One captain who hit a mine and abandoned his ship went back not to destroy the machine or the books but to get his treasured poems. The British captured a machine but more important the code books.
Re:Enigma worked by looking like nonsense (Score:2, Interesting)
The problem with Enigma was that Enigma was unbreakable and if its unbreakable you don't have to bother with all this singals discipline. Some operators were allowed to select their own 'random' message keys (thus the code breakers became experts on German swearwords!)
I'd guess m
applet (Score:5, Informative)
Re:applet (Score:5, Funny)
I wonder if the real Nazi Enigma machines also had Java.lang.NullPointerException errors...
Re:applet (Score:4, Funny)
Oh, well in that case... (Score:3, Funny)
I was thinking to myself "This is way too difficult to build..."
But then I noticed that the 65+ page manual includes:
How to build a wooden box
And if that wasn't enough, the fact that it has
Full 26-key keyboard with key-click sound
sealed the deal!
I really wanted to make a Darl joke, but alas...
Herzlicher Glukwunsch...Enigma cracking: Circa 2004 (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Enigma cracking: Circa 2004 (Score:4, Interesting)
If an e-mail message were to be encoded using Enigma, does there exist any modern-era software for cracking it? Or would the US Government be forced to pull out the vacuum tubes and crack it the way they did in WWII again?
I doubt that a cracking program would have the Enigma algorithm built-in, but Enigma is suceptible to a type of brute force attack. Generally you can do heuiristic analysis on a cipher to get a good head start, then brute force a smaller subset of the data. On modern hardware this would probably take a few seconds, if that long.
Re:Enigma cracking: Circa 2004 (Score:4, Interesting)
Enigma encryption might have been a great leap ahead and looked completely state of art in the WW2, but today, it's quite trivial to crack. Enigma could be easily bruteforced - just check through the entire keyspace.
It also probably wouldn't stand too long if real crypto breakers who knew their stuff would start their job without knowing anything about the encryption scheme, even. The science has gone so far in recent times.
And an easy way to illustrate: Compare output from Enigma with any modern cipher. Enigma output looks like completely mangled words - the text is garbled, the layout of the message is exposed. Modern cipher output looks like a completely random arrangement of bits, everything completely spread around the message with no point to really take a good grip on. With Enigma, if you know that Nazi guy is always putting "Heil Hitler" at the end, you have already cracked that much of the message.
If the thing looks trivial, then it probably is. If it doesn't, it probably isn't. Of course, this isn't always true [schneier.com] in either way [interhack.net].
Now I'll get more coffee so I can start making sense today.
NSA Archives (Score:2)
Re:Enigma cracking: Circa 2004 (Score:4, Interesting)
I implemented an Enigma-cracking program when I was trying to crack the codes in Simon Singh's Cipher Challenge presented in The Code Book. It was a great deal of fun, and required just the right mix of learning, hacking and debugging to accomplish. Eventually I cracked 7 out of 10 of the ciphers (all the ones I expected to be within reasonable grasp).
The first difficulty was finding a sufficiently detailed description of the Enigma machine itself, so that I could write a simulator. Eventually I found a fairly good description of the machine, and some cleartext/ciphertext pairs to try it against. Initially there was a minor problem, which I eventually submitted as a plea to a newsgroup and received a quick response from an eGroup member as to the bug. Voila! A working simulator.
I took advice from Jim Gillogly and his cipher text only break [fortunecity.com] of the Enigma machine. I suspected the final text would be German, so I built a table of trigraph frequencies from Goethe's Faust, which I downloaded from Project Gutenberg. I then coded up a simple hill climbing algorithm which proceeded by Scanning all possible rotor orders (six of them) and all possible rotor positions (26^3), looking for the text with the trigraph score, and then refining that by hillclimbing by redoing the plugboard.
It worked the very first time: out popped the flawless decrypt in less than three minutes on my old 133Mhz P5.
Singh's challenge was signficantly aided by the fact that his ciphertext was quite a bit longer than the recommended message length that was actually used in the War. My experience in trying to crack shorter messages was that the statistics used to guide the search were often unreliable, and the likelihood of getting a successful automatic decrypt were quite a bit lower.
Re:Enigma cracking: Circa 2004 (Score:3, Insightful)
Key was the codes used to set th
And the real irony (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Enigma cracking: Circa 2004 (Score:3, Informative)
Not quite true - the US did supply a good number of the Bombes used for determing the steckers and wheel settings.
What made the Enigma easy to crack was that the signals through the rotors were reflected - which greatly limited the encoding space.
What the Poles did in cracking the Enigma was nothing compared to what Friedman did in cracking Japan's "Purple Code". The Poles knew how the Enigma was built, Friedman had to deduce how the "Purple" box worked.
Building replicas (Score:5, Insightful)
Prof. Dr. Wolfgang Ertel is working on making duplicates which you can buy completely build here [fh-weingarten.de].
Am I the only person who... (Score:4, Funny)
This is an interesting... (Score:4, Interesting)
An interesting piece of history...
Re:This is an interesting... (Score:2, Informative)
Tony Sale [codesandciphers.org.uk] the expert who rebuilt Colossus has also created a Virtual Bletchley Park [codesandciphers.org.uk] part of his website which includes a Virtual Colossus [codesandciphers.org.uk] that you can run via the web. However it is recommended to read the instructions (PDF) first! [codesandciphers.org.uk].
LEGO Mindstorms (Score:4, Funny)
Re:LEGO Mindstorms (Score:2)
From there either use an alternate OS to show the result on the screen, or else use the motors somehow to run a mechanical display.
Enigma Books (Score:5, Informative)
I can finally talk to the Germans! (Score:2, Funny)
user feedback (Score:2, Funny)
Toyally Sucks! A.Hitler
Totally Rocks! W Churchill
Level of difficulty (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Level of difficulty (Score:5, Interesting)
output of enigma1 was input into enigma2 then transmitted.
there was a couple of accounts from some of the higher up officials that eluded to that this was a practice that was used near the end of the war for really important things.
Mine says.... (Score:4, Funny)
Colossus (Score:3, Interesting)
So... whos gonna reprint the thing (Score:2)
M4 Enigma? (Score:3, Insightful)
$ which m4
I already have this installed!
Enigma decrypt (Score:5, Informative)
Decoding was also made easier by knowing part of the content of the message. Loyal Nazis were always fond of closing their encrypted messages with a hearty "Heil Hitler" which of course aided the British immensely.
Re:Enigma decrypt (Score:2)
Btw, there are still the original machines to play with and it is probably easy to create a real replica. it's all simple mechanics. Go
I have an Enigma-E - works great (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Too late (Score:4, Insightful)
It's just like how American-Indian "Windtalkers" could befudle opposing intercepters simply by speaking their native language. It's really hard to crack a code when you don't know what the encoding process used was in the first place. You can't brute force guess keys until you know what you're supposed to do with them.
Re:Too late (Score:2, Funny)
Way to go, commie!
=P
Re:Too late (Score:5, Interesting)
In a similiar situation, one time pad encoded transmissions by Allied and Soviet spies during and after WW2 were dual encoded, first each word was encoded from plain text into a 4 digit number, and from there added to the onetime pad. This ended up with a situation where you could break the one time pad cyphers due to sloppy reuse of the pads on the soviet part, but then you had the task of matching up the numbers to words using a code book you can never see. Its not as easy as people make it out to be, less than 1% of all Venona traffic captured was ever broken, and then most were only broken by a word, thus useless.
Re:Bummer (Score:2, Informative)
"Both addresses below do ship worldwide so ordering one shouldn't be a problem."
Enigma-E Order Page [www.xat.nl]
Re:No thank you... (Score:2)