Chemists Crack Secrets of Mussels' Super Glue 197
Roland Piquepaille writes "Researchers from Purdue University working under an award from the National Science Foundation (NSF) have discovered that common blue mussels are using iron found in seawater to create their own super glue. "In addition to using the knowledge to develop safer alternatives for surgical and household glues, the researchers are looking at how to combat the glue to prevent damage to shipping vessels and the accidental transport of invasive species, such as the zebra mussel that has ravaged the midwestern United States." This overview contains more details and references about this discovery. You'll also find an image of mussel glue at a magnification of 25,000X and one of a mussel adhering to a sheet of Teflon."
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Re:Scary cleaning cycle.. (Score:2, Informative)
thank god (Score:2, Funny)
Not funny (Score:2)
That isn't funny if you use any lake infested with these things. The reproduce very quickly, and get in the way of both the native species of our lakes, and recreation uses.
Re:thank god (Score:2)
Too bad for the mussels (Score:1, Interesting)
mussels yummy! (Score:5, Funny)
american pie 2 (Score:3, Funny)
Kinda answers that question... (Score:5, Funny)
Mussels!
Bah, there was a punchline in there somewhere, but I think I missed it.
Re:Kinda answers that question... (Score:5, Funny)
er... the frying pan.
Re:Kinda answers that question... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Kinda answers that question... (Score:5, Funny)
I thought the answer to that was... (Score:3, Funny)
There must be different kinds of mussel glues, though, as some mussels really DO taste like glue...
Re:Kinda answers that question... (Score:2)
Re:Kinda answers that question... (Score:2)
So the next time (Score:5, Funny)
Teflon? (Score:1, Funny)
Blogzine [blogzine.net]
Muscle Glue (Score:3, Funny)
Will Muscle Glue remover cause the iron to oxidize and rust away thereby breaking apart the protein strands? Inquiring minds want to know.
Re:Muscle Glue (Score:1)
Re:Muscle Glue (Score:2)
Crraaaaaazzzzzyyyyy Glue!
Strong enough to suspend this man in thin air!
(I guess thick air is outta the question)
That depends (Score:5, Informative)
There's a couple of easy mnemonics to remember the general RedOx rules:
OLEGON (Oxidation is Loss of Electrons and Gain in Oxidation Number)
or
LEO says GER (Loss of Electrons is Oxidation, Gain of Electrons is Reduction).
There's probably others, but basic chemistry was a looong time ago for me...
Oilrig (Score:2)
Re:Muscle Glue (Score:2)
The toughest glue on planet earth.
Re:Muscle Glue (Score:2)
Which is quite handy, really. All one needs to do is reduce the iron content of the water to prevent mollusks. This could be done using magnets (it is iron, after all). When buildup is critical, simply switch the magnets off and direct the iron away from the ship, where it will mix back into the water harmlessly.
Hey! (Score:5, Funny)
That's my dinner!
Why ? (Score:2, Interesting)
However this is known to some time now and nobody seems to care or even to use it.
Re:Why ? (Score:5, Funny)
Combine some mussel superglue with some bioluminescent squid [radio.cbc.ca] (ogg file) and you've got yourself a mean underwater flashlight, though.
Re:Why ? (Score:5, Funny)
Hamster
Mr. Mensa, you need to learn to spell. (Score:3, Funny)
Oh shit, you're dumb!
Re:Why ? (Score:2)
Hamster
Re:Why ? (Score:2)
You troll... (Score:2)
Of course this reply does mean that I just bit, doesn't it. Oh well.
btw: Cacti are native only to the Americas and Africa.
Oops, bit again, guess I just can't help myself. Nice troll anyway.
More links for the chemistry inclined (Score:5, Informative)
After a bit of googling, I found the researcher's home page:
http://www.chem.purdue.edu/Faculty/wilker.
I also found the page for his research group. Linked from it, was a more detailed description of the chemistry involved:
http://www.chem.purdue.edu/wilker/adhe
Unfortunately, while I could find a number of links to actual publications in peer-reviewed chemistry journals, all where subscription sites.
"Super Glue" is misleading (Score:5, Funny)
Re:"Super Glue" is misleading (Score:1)
remember, the little people need it spelled out in a clear and concise manner.
Re:"Super Glue" is misleading (Score:2, Funny)
Re:"Super Glue" is misleading (Score:4, Funny)
When you say "super glue", most people here think of Superglue(tm), which is cyanoacrylate adhesive, not mollusk snot.
I think I might have found my new .sig.
so what? (Score:3, Insightful)
I hate these press releases that don't give any specifics (e.g., strength in MPa) nor do they provide larger picture of why would we care...
oh, well, good for mussels any way... they are tasty...
Re:so what? (Score:2)
(Disclaimer: I know most ships are not made out of teflon. And by most, I have a lil frying pan in the sink right now..sailing away in the suds.)
Re:so what? (Score:2, Interesting)
More permanence may not be best (Score:5, Insightful)
We all talk about expanding recycling programs, and cutting down on fossil fuels, but then build structures that have such highly developed components, they can never be re-used or perhaps even dismantled (without disintegration, probably releasing even more agents into the biosphere).
Now don't get me wrong, with the right regulation and foresight, these kind of developments can be true breakthroughs. But forging ahead without considering whether an invention can be dismantled or reduced to its original components is not good engineering these days.
But hell, my field is ancient history, what do I know...
Re:More permanence may not be best (Score:4, Insightful)
A protein based glue that sticks to everything but is biodegradable, or a polymer based one that doesn't stick as good and lasts until the sun goes nova.
Re:More permanence may not be best (Score:4, Interesting)
If we used a glue that was similar to an existing organic substance it most likely would be more recyclable than the current acrylics and cyanoacrilates and such; hopefully production would produce less toxic waste, though I doubt they'll be milkng mussels for it. Conversely, making more durable products reduces obsolescence so ideally less is discarded.
Permanence, but only for a while (Score:5, Insightful)
Industry has already made superstable substances (like dioxins or CFCs), but by looking to biology for inspiration, we may be able to make substances whose long-term stability will reduce waste, while allowing a graceful dismantling when their usefulness has been outlived.
Re:Permanence, but only for a while (Score:2)
Re:More permanence may not be best (Score:2)
You're absolutely right.
Let's save the planet now! Kill all the geckos and mussels! They're destroying us!
Re:More permanence may not be best (Score:2, Funny)
The geckos, anyways! I absolutely hate those bloody insurance commercials!
Re:More permanence may not be best (Score:5, Insightful)
Or are you more of a living in the now kind of guy?
Is the sky really falling? Do geckos hold it up? (Score:2)
What are "permanent ideas"? How are these ideas harmful? I am confused. I also don't see how gecko tape or mollusk glue are harmful to recycling efforts. If anything they help. If something breaks I can "permanently" fix it with gecko tape or mollusk glue instead of throwing it away. How does this harm future generations?
Now nuclear waste is the sort of problem that we shouldn't be passing on to future genera
Re:More permanence may not be best (Score:2)
The rest of us are going to the stars. You can inherit the earth.
DMCA (Score:1, Funny)
old news (Score:5, Informative)
Re:old news (Score:3, Informative)
synthesis is a sticky situation (Score:5, Insightful)
the discovery that iron contributes to the chemical structure will perhaps expedite the process of simulation and production, but there's still a long way to go. as technologically advanced as we are, we know hardly anything about how to build things on a molecular level, and even if we finally observe the chemical makeup of this glue, i believe production technology will be holding back synthesis.
Re:synthesis is a sticky situation (Score:2, Interesting)
Zebra mussel info page (Score:5, Informative)
More information about the zebra mussel can be found here:
The Zebra Mussel Page [wayne.edu]
The slide show link is informative. To quote: "Zebra mussels are a pest organism because they not only attach to one another, but also to man-made objects, including water intakes and other plumbing of water, power, and other companies that use fresh water. [snip] Zebra mussels also attach to other organisms, such as these native (North American) mussels from Lake Erie. Heavy loads of zebra mussels have killed essentially all native Unionid mussels in western Lake Erie, an early site of the zebra mussel invasion. Zebra mussels first appeared in Lake St. Clair (yellow star, north of Lake Erie), possibly from ship's ballast water from the Black Sea region. They rapidly spread downstream with the current, and upstream and to other watersheds on boats, with bait, and by other man-mediated mechanisms."
The National Atlas website has a nice Shockwave animation illustrating the invasion between 1988 and 1999:
Animated Map Showing Zebra Mussel Distribution [nationalatlas.gov]
Re:Zebra mussel info page (Score:3, Interesting)
I've been wondering about this since I first heard about the problem with them. Are they toxic to humans? Is there not enough meat inside to make them worth the effort? Do they taste different than other mussels?
In short, why ain't we eating them?
LK
Re:Zebra mussel info page (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Zebra mussel info page (Score:2)
OK, But.... (Score:2)
Re:OK, But.... (Score:1)
I knew I should have clicked the "preview" button.
More glues in the news (Score:2, Funny)
I love his lab team... (Score:1)
Can't wait for Mussel Man! (Score:1)
He has the power of muscle and glue.
Take that Spiderman!
Huffing? (Score:2, Funny)
hopfully not what happens (Score:2)
If you are one of those types that likes to sniff glue/paint (gold paint seems to be the favorite among "huffers"... due to its higher toluene content), I'd advise you to stop.
That kind of foolishness can not only kill you quickly (by sensitizing your heart to circulating catecholamines... in laymans terms, your heart starts beating funny and you die), but also over the long-term by damaging your brain, liver, kidneys... as well as making you blind,
"ravaged"? (Score:1)
Or are those zebras?
Re:"ravaged"? (Score:2)
Re:"ravaged"? (Score:4, Informative)
And the little buggers are so sharp. You can't swim anymore, when you feet touch bottom the mussels cut you. It's exactly like dozens of paper cuts on the soles of your feet.
I hope they don't counteract this glue.... (Score:1)
Thank you, thank you, I'll be here forever...
Great, now all we need ... (Score:4, Insightful)
Should be easy.
What would be interesting is a genetically mutated mussel for ships which a) roams around sealing cracks, and b) kills all other non super-mussel mussels from the hull.
Maybe a super ship fixing mussel with frickin' lazers on its valves? That'd rock.
But anyway, I'm serious about the shipfixing idea. Why can't we work -with- nature instead of against it all the time, why oh why?
Re:Great, now all we need ... (Score:3, Funny)
Oh, great. Some ship with one of these on it sinks, and suddenly the tectonic plate boundaries are sealed. Then what're we gonna do, huh?
Hmmm, on second thought, no more earthquakes or volcanos or tidal waves doesn't seem like such a bad thing...
Re:*blink* Plugging up tectonic plates == bad (Score:2)
Think it'd work on that GOATSE guy?
Overview? (Score:2, Funny)
Wouldnt an overview have less details?
Prof Wilker - SCORE! (Score:5, Funny)
http://www.nsf.gov/od/lpa/news/04/images/thetea
I'm going to let everyone ELSE make the jokes, thanks.
Re:Prof Wilker - SCORE! (Score:5, Funny)
*rim-shot*
Oh well, I'm known for my awful puns, so I guess this just adds to my rep!
Re:Prof Wilker - SCORE! (Score:2)
Re:Prof Wilker - SCORE! (Score:2)
Re:Prof Wilker - SCORE! (Score:2)
Re:Prof Wilker - SCORE! (Score:2, Informative)
Myself, I find attraction to the second girl from the left, crouching down
Re:Prof Wilker - SCORE! (Score:2)
Re:Prof Wilker - SCORE! (Score:2)
Trying to get to the top by the most indiscriminate way!
If only (Score:3, Funny)
NSFW? (Score:2, Funny)
No?
Wow (Score:4, Funny)
Those zebra mussels must be pretty badass to be growing in Nebraska cornfields.
(yes, I know zebra mussels are a problem for inland freshwater bodies. The joke is still funny. Thank you.)
A sheet of Teflon? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:A sheet of Teflon? (Score:2)
Quick! Somebody call David Blaine!
3n 355 3ff (Score:2, Funny)
Teflon? That's easy. Try the MS EULA (Score:4, Funny)
... ahwell, dere goes me karma den.
surgical and household glues (Score:2)
close, but not the same (Score:2)
The one I personally use the most is trade-named Dermabond... it's a superglue for skin lacerations. It's NOT the same compound as regular super glue (conventional super glue is typically cyanoacrylate). Dermabond is a bit different: it's actually butylcyanoacrylate, and has a little better stress modulus than regular super glue (a bit more flexible, not quite as brittle).
There is also a similar compound used primarily by the orthopedic surgeons to
Saw this presented... (Score:5, Informative)
...at an ASC [ascouncil.org] conference a year or so ago. Very well put-together presentation - I didn't read the article (yay typical /. behavior), so I'm going by my memory of the talk and slides
As I recall, the fella from Purdue had mentioned that the primary interest they were pursuing was to try and exploit the technology for a medical/surgical adhesive, but that a firm understanding of the chemical mechanism could be worth quite a bit to the US Navy, since estimates put fuel waste and inefficiency (due to increased drag on ships because of the molluscs attached to the hull) runs into the billions...
(As a funny aside, this guy was probably the only talk at the conference that really got people interested. There's only so much excitement to be had in glue. :P )
transition metals are essential to the formation.. (Score:2)
I'm no NSF CAREER awardee, but a mere Chemical Engineering drop out, but I can name hemoglobine, which is not crystaline (commonly used in solution), _needs_ iron, and is quite useful for life
Fe is not part of final glue (Score:2, Interesting)
Teflon (Score:3, Funny)
wbs.
Biomicmicry (Score:3, Informative)
Suzuki And Biomicmicry (Score:2)
Parenthetically: there was a period in my life when I used to end up virtually every weekend watching daytime television while nursing the most horrible and well-deserved hang-overs. For some reason, Swedish TV chose to broadcast most of its David Suzuki shows during those hours. When hung-over, there is something oddly soothing about Suzuki's science-lit
Re:So... (Score:5, Informative)
The topic says:
"In addition to using the knowledge to develop safer alternatives for surgical and household glues, the researchers are looking at how to combat the glue to prevent damage to shipping vessels and the accidental transport of invasive species, such as the zebra mussel that has ravaged the midwestern United States."
You didn't even have to RTFA!
Re:So... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Check out his lab team (Score:2)