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Take Your Vitamins, On Pain Of Pain 101

Posted by timothy from the are-what-you-eat dept.
dacap writes "The American diet continues to deteriorate. In the news is the exacerbation of bone disease from a deficiency of vitamin D. Too little vitamin D also causes muscle pain and joint problems. How is it that we let something so easily remedied affect us? Details are in USA Today. The ultimate solution to this and many other health-related problems that techies suffer is a proper diet coupled with a multivitamin supplement and regular exercise. Too bad that these choices are so unpopular. A sound mind and sound body go together."
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  • Let me just translate... (Score:3, Funny)

    by FinestLittleSpace ( 719663 ) on Wednesday October 29, 2003 @09:43AM (#7337374)
    Translated:
    "Americans are, as a whole, fat, unhealthy, lazy, arrogant bastards"

    (I'll go find some exceptions in a few minutes)

  • Milk (Score:1)

    by jodio ( 569370 )
    Just drink about a litre of milk a day. You'll be fine.
    • Well, benefits of milk are largely contested. Generaly, only north americans drink milk during their mature life. Montignac's last book (I never read any of his books) discuss the milk myth.

      On the multivitamin issue, these are really "dangerous" if taken everyday. This was the result of an study I made many years ago. The reason is simple, multivitamins added to normal meal might give you too much of liposoluble vitamins and makes you sick ! (liposolubles are elements that goes in the body fat and stays a
      • There are only 3 or 4 liposoluble vitamins - A, K, D and some forms of E. All other vitamins are hydosoluble. The relative doses of these are taken into account with most products, and with the USRDA. You would have to be comatose in most cases not to use the amounts of liposoluble vitamins present in most multivitamins (at least in the US, don't know about elsewhere). It would take some work to overdose.

        To say that multivitamins are useless based on the presence of these few fat-soluble ones is sort o

        • There is more than vitamins in multivitamins tablets !! You should not forget Calcium, Chrome, Copper, Iron, Iode, Magnesium, Manganese, Selenium, Zinc, all of which might be present and not necessarily liposolubles.

          Anyway, I'm no expert. And I agree, multivitamins *can* be good, it varies a lot depending on the person and tablet type. Just I wanted to express some important issues with them.
      • Generaly, only north americans drink milk during their mature life.
        You've never been to the Netherlands! The huge majority (I would guess 90%) of Dutch drink milk during lunch. I have even been to places where there was only milk to drink, not even water!

        I guess the trick is easy, just eat a balanced diet. (but what is balance ? ;-)
        That's easy. A balance diet is a bit of everything.

        You don't need Montignac's books, you just need to eat a reasonable amount of varied food.
      • >> Generaly, only north americans drink milk during their mature life.

        Let me guess. You've never spent time in Europe.


    • Re:Milk (Score:2, Informative)

      by Mr. Slippery ( 47854 )

      Just drink about a litre of milk a day.

      Milk - especially cow's milk - should be taken in moderation or not at all. Many adults have some degree of lactose intolerance; the concentrated protien of milk (and other animal products) is detrimental to proper calcium balance; milk is commonly contaminated with pus and with drug residues; it's high in fat and low in iron. [afpafitness.com] The high milk consumption in the U.S. is a marketing triumph, not a healthy habit.

      • Re:Milk (Score:2)

        by pmz ( 462998 )


        Does the culture for yogurt and cheese consume the pus? I have yet to taste the pus in yogurt, but, perhaps, that's just the blueberries covering it up.

        Seriously, though, it's interesting that human milk contains more fatty acids than cow's milk. If that isn't an argument in favor of breast-feeding, I don't know what is (our kids gotta have brains, you know).
      • It's more expensive than cow milk but I drink Meyenberg Goat milk.

        I know. It sounds really strange but the taste is good, my skin is happier for it and the goat milk yoghurt with a touch of vanilla & splenda is amazing.

        Ya, I know. It sounds REALLY weird but you've gotta try it.

        Many people I know had skin problems that cleared up when they switched OFF cow milk and foods with a lot of sugar (coke, OJ, fruit smoothies).

  • Ultraviolet (Score:2, Informative)

    by pswnet ( 614841 )
    How about sunbathing between 08.00-10.00 a.m. Exposure to sunlight is one of the main sources of vitamin D
    • Actually, it's vitally important, also, that you don't bathe before sunbathing. I know, sounds funny, but vitamin D is produced through sun exposure by reacting with sweat on the skin. So, if you go and take a shower, and then lay out in the sun, you'll have very little vitamin D production.

      So, I guess your average geek would do well to just get out in the sun once in a while. :)

  • This isn't really too suprising (Score:5, Interesting)

    by eXtro ( 258933 ) on Wednesday October 29, 2003 @09:51AM (#7337482) Homepage
    Even in high school physical education hardly any time was spent on learning about caring for your body. You'd learn various sports, spend a bit of time learning to dance and a little bit of time learning how to not knock up a girl. No time that I can recall was spent on learning how to stretch or how to build a meal that has all the nutrients you need. I've learned a lot of these things on my own but most of the other engineers I work with never did and just bitch and moan that they're sore after 30 minutes of water skiing, don't have any energy while pounding a Big Mac, fries and a gallon of Coca-Cola into their mouths.

  • Although... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Otter ( 3800 ) on Wednesday October 29, 2003 @10:03AM (#7337601) Journal
    The American diet continues to deteriorate.

    That's the spin in the article but there's no evidence given of any factor that has changed. Or even numbers to support a rise in rickets.

    My guess is that a combination of kids' drinking less milk in favor of Mountain Dew and Big Gulps and their spending less time outside makes up a large part of the problem, but who knows? Clearly, a lot of it is simply that the UK and northern US simply get so little sun that the risk is always there.

    • Re:Although... (Score:3, Insightful)

      by pmz ( 462998 )

      I'm waiting for "Mountain Dew with Calcium". Of course, shit in a bottle with a couple vitamins is already sold to naive mothers as "Sunny D."

      Why not just feed the damn kids real fruit juice! It actually isn't that expensive!!! If you want to get the same effect of those "fruit drinks" pour about one ounze of OJ into a glass and fill the rest with tap water.
      • Why not just feed the damn kids real fruit juice! It actually isn't that expensive!!! If you want to get the same effect of those "fruit drinks" pour about one ounze of OJ into a glass and fill the rest with tap water.

        Don't forget the High Fructose Corn Syrup. It just won't taste right otherwise.

        Seriously though, I don't think it's a good idea to give kids juice all the time. Sure, it's better than Pepsi, but it shouldn't be all they ever drink. I wonder how many cases of "ADD" or "hyperactivity" or what
        • Seriously though, I don't think it's a good idea to give kids juice all the time.

          I agree and wasn't trying to advocate otherwise. Fruit juice is a food and not necessarily a beverage. Also, while the fructose takes longer to break down and has less "kick" than corn syrup and refined sugar, it is sugar nonetheless.

          ...making the kids drink water when they're thirsty.

          I dunno, they might not drink it unless it is in a bottle with an Extreme label featuring a rapper with a gun aimed at his bitch or some
          • lol "I dunno, they might not drink it unless it is in a bottle with an Extreme label featuring a rapper with a gun aimed at his bitch or something. Also, it has to be green and taste like hypermelon (or whatever they call that new flavor, lately)."

            Dude, thats classic.
          • It all comes down to the parents, they're the ones who set up the paterns from the beginning. My daughter (3.5 years) asks for water when she's thirsty. More importantly, when she's thirsty it doesn't occur to her to ask for anything else even though she knows that there's milk, juice, and soda in the fridge. We didn't "get lucky", it's the direct result of a decision we made as parents.

            I was home sick the other day and caught a bit of Dr Phil. A mom was complaining that all her kids ate was junk food. Dr

  • Hard to understand... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Beatbyte ( 163694 ) on Wednesday October 29, 2003 @10:11AM (#7337688) Homepage
    how people who spend hours and hours working on a machine to make it pur like a kitten and run at its peak efficiency can eat garbage, fatty, high-carb food. and on top of it, not exercise.

    WHAT YOU PUT IN YOUR BODY, IS EQUIVALENT TO WHAT YOU GET OUT!

    It's like putting a 486SX with 8MB RAM in a cluster of decent machines and expecting it to do the same amount of work. I doesn't happen.

    Lots of water, vitamins, no fatty foods, moderate exercise = better quality of life, self-esteem, etc.

    And speaking as someone who has lost 40 lbs. in the last year, I can attest to that.
    • WHAT YOU PUT IN YOUR BODY, IS EQUIVALENT TO WHAT YOU GET OUT!

      Don't forget the irreversable chemical process that occurs, because what you get out ain't nearly as tasty.
    • How is that supposed to increase your self-esteem really? If you already like yourself the way you are then it's not much of an incentive. And as for quality of life, I'm happy with mine the way it is. It should not be hard to understand that different people have different values when it comes to such things.
      • Speaking from experience, when you start losing weight and getting compliments from the opposite sex, it tends to make you feel good, more confident, etc.

        Genuine compliments make anyone feel good. no?
  • Fat people need to consume just as much as ever.

    Eventually they die, and need
    Fat caskets [hamptonroads.com]


    But, before you die, you should relax:
    Fat Vacations [usatoday.com]


    And of course they need a community to be a part of:
    Their own Internet 'Fat Portal' [fatcities.com]

  • It's not just the USA (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Zocalo ( 252965 ) on Wednesday October 29, 2003 @10:26AM (#7337866) Homepage
    Funny this should come up today, because in yesterday's paper here in the UK was a picture of a toddler from behind (I'd guess about 2-3 years old). She had quite severe ricketts (which is also caused by Vitamin D deficiency) such that her legs had a similar degree of curvature to a banana.

    You can blame Margaret Thatcher for stopping children's milk in our schools way back when if you want, but the problem is far more serious than that, I think. With all the faddy and medically unproven diets such as Atkins being bandied about, how many parents are foisting those diets on thier children without any idea of the effects? I will not be at all suprised if medical disorders developed by bad diets in childhood are going to become as much of a problem for the health services as smoking related illnesses are now.

    • Re:It's not just the USA (Score:4, Insightful)

      by pmz ( 462998 ) on Wednesday October 29, 2003 @11:34AM (#7338499) Homepage

      Putting a child on a fad diet is asking for disaster. The only reason adults can tolerate such things is that our brain is more or less done growing, as is our bodies.

      Kids need whole foods in adequate but not excessive amounts, more than anything. If only seafood didn't have so much pollution in it, tuna would be awesome brain food for a toddler. Peanuts aren't a bad second choice, though. Whole wheat bread has minerals what white bread doesn't. And so forth. I wonder how many kids are growing up brain-damaged, because of 10% fruit juice, white bread, french fries, etc. Goddamn stupid parents (and shifty advertisers...).

      • Advertisers have targeted children for years, yet most of the people I know had parents who had some inkling about raising a child.

        Food made from basic ingredients (fresh meat, fresh veg, brown rice etc ...), as little refined sugar as possible (raisins instead of M&Ms), no caffiene (why people give kids stimulant packed drinks is beyond me) and at least two hours a day away from the TV/computer doing some exercise (footy, cycling, anything outside).

        This isn't rocket science but sadly fewer and fewer

        • why people give kids stimulant packed drinks is beyond me

          Maybe stuffing kids with caffeine, refined sugar, and low-attention-span TV and games and, then, doping them up on ritalin and subjecting them to perverse therapy with child psychologists is entertaining to them, somehow. It's probably more likely the parents are extremely selfish and don't want to expend real effort raising their children, since half of them get divorced, anyway.

          • What does marital status have to do with the level of care one gives their child?

            Not everyone can stay together. That doesn't mean they don't want to care for their children however.

            • What does marital status have to do with the level of care one gives their child?

              In many cases, it shows how committed a person is to their family. The divorced families I've seen are just fucked up in one way or another. Angry kids, hateful spouses... With a little foresight, perhaps they could have avoided the marriage in the first place by using birth control or being objective regarding their ill-founded idealism.

              Divorce is the product of a mistake. Putting the kids in the middle of that is just
              • Despite the most well intentioned efforts it is quite simply impossible to predict the future. There is no way for example, Mrs. Patric Naughton could have predicted that her future husband would turn out to be a pedophile.

                There are many many things that one cannot forsee. Only when you are living with them on an everyday basis do they come to light.
                • Despite the most well intentioned efforts it is quite simply impossible to predict the future. There is no way for example, Mrs. Patric Naughton could have predicted that her future husband would turn out to be a pedophile.

                  This is true, but people should do more to mitigate these risks. I knew my wife for years before getting married and had no qualms about getting joint accounts and joint ownerships of things. She is trustworthy and I know it. She has a good family. The odds are very very low that sh
                  • A prenup is always wise. That being said most of what you said is true. But let me ask you, you are sure she won't go haywire or start using drugs or beating kids but how do you know she isn't sleeping with the mailman or a co-worker or whatever? I keep my AOL account because of the easy casual sex hookups it provides but one thing I have noticed when looking thru member profiles is how many people both men and women are using the internet to find extra-marital lovers. And the spouses are usually oblivious.
                    • But let me ask you, you are sure she won't go haywire or start using drugs or beating kids but how do you know she isn't sleeping with the mailman or a co-worker or whatever?

                      Yes, because if there is a problem developing we can at least talk about it and figure out the cause. Finding the cause creates the opportunity for figuring out the cure. The people who are on-line looking for extra-marital affairs are not only lying to their spouse but also to themselves (unless, of course, they are "swingers" or s

        • Re:It's not just the USA (Score:2, Informative)

          by Eccles ( 932 )
          why people give kids stimulant packed drinks is beyond me

          The thing being ignored is that kids want these things. They want sugar (yes, my kids want to eat straight sugar, and my daughter will eat butter straight), they want ice cream, they want sodas, and they want TV and video games. It's an eternal battle for a parent to get them to eat the healthy dinner, rather than nibble at it and then ask for a junk food snack later, especially since they generally dislike most spices and thus have a limited set

        • I hate raisins (Score:3, Insightful)

          by Merk ( 25521 )

          I hate it when people talk about raising kids, saying things like "Just substitute raisins for M&Ms and stuff like that".

          First of all, did you know that dentists have found that the sugar levels in apples have been raised so high that apples are now rotting kids' teeth? Just because something is presumably "natural" doesn't mean it is necessarily good for you anymore.

          Secondly, kids above 6 or 7 know that candy is bad for them, and that is one of the reasons they want it. I remember sneaking off

    • With all the faddy and medically unproven diets such as Atkins

      The 'faddy' and unproven LOW-FAT diets, pushed by quacks like Ornish and McDougal, are a principal cause of obesity worldwide. I have personally lost over 100 lbs on a low-carb, high-fat diet (similar to Atkins), which had the side effects of improving my blood lipids, lowering my blood pressure, eliminating several of the problems caused by previously uncontrolled blood sugar levels, and in general, greatly increasing my overhealth health.

      T
      • It's interesting to note that much of what you see in the Atkins diet is now getting more respect, and nutritionists are starting (just starting) to question the validity of the much-vaunted "Food Pyramid." In more educated circles, the high-carb/low-fat pyramid is being questioned for its role in the current obesity epidemic in the US. Arguably, we are eating (as a nation) more low-fat products than ever before, but also far more low-deitary fiber carbs. We've also ignored the glycemic index, which is a cr

      • Cow's milk [...] has a nutritional profile substantially different from human milk, and there is no reason to expect it to be good for humans of any age.

        Good point! I happened to read your post just as I was halfway through a Cobb salad of lettuce topped with grated cheese, bits of deli meat, some hard-boiled egg, and tomato slices. Upon closer examination, I realized that ALL of these items have a nutritional profile which is substantially different from human milk. Therefore, there is no reason why

  • Reading the artical to the end I discovered the worry is because 9 out of every 1 million babies (mostly black) babies have problems due to lack of vitamin D. This isn't all that significant. Not saying that people shouldn't get more vitamin D, but it looks more like some people need to make sure they get enough. (Dark skinned people don't make as much vitamin D)

  • If you eat anything even approaching a reasonable diet, you don't need vitamin tablets (barring things like anemia). In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if people let themselves or their children eat crappier diets because they're "making up for it" with a pill.

    (and yes, I do survive on chips and McD's $1 cheese sticks. Bite me)

    • Most people will get the official minimum required intake of most vitamins in their diets, yes.

      However, there is evidence that larger doses have benefits (preventing cancers, that sort of thing). And extra vitamins don't do any harm. See it as a bit of insurance.

      • And extra vitamins don't do any harm.

        Not true. Enough Vitamin A will turn your skin orange.

        Whether you consider that "harm", I suppose, is another matter entirely.
        • Enough Vitamin A will kill you.

          Polar animals store massive amounts of Vitamin A in their livers, for some reason. Scott, when exloring the Antarctic, actually died of a Vitamin A overdose from eating the livers of his huskies, rather than dying of lead poisoning (as previously believed). Not strictly relevant, I know, but if you're ever in a survival situation in the Antarctic, you might be glad I told you.

      • And extra vitamins don't do any harm. See it as a bit of insurance.

        Multivitamins != solution

        Let me assure you: extra vitamins can be quite harmful. Ever heard of free radicals [healthchecksystems.com]?

        It's not so much that extra vitamins are harmful. It's that taking them separated from their natural environment is bad for you - you need other elements to be able to process the vitamins properly.

        Best course of action: plenty of fresh fruits and vegetables.

        -- Steve

      • Ack! too many vitamins can easily kill you.

        Iron poisioning is one of the leading causes of death in children from too many vitamins.

        pretty much any of the fat soluable ones can build up to toxicity over time..

        so don't chug those pills. take one a day, like it says on the bottle.
    • If you eat anything even approaching a reasonable diet, you don't need vitamin tablets

      Except that there is evidence that our food supply is so degraded that its nutritional value is a lot less than it should be. So even eating a well balanced diet may not give you enough nutrients.

      In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if people let themselves or their children eat crappier diets because they're "making up for it" with a pill.

      From my experience, if these people aren't willing to spend the time and money on
    • In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if people let themselves or their children eat crappier diets because they're "making up for it" with a pill.

      Unfortunately, that's my girlfriend's philosophy. Fibre supplements, protien supplements, multi-vitamin all in place of food. Why? Because, things with the right amounts have "too many calories". Sigh
  • Good thing that I use the Equate version of Slim Fast. I drink 2 for breakfast and 1 for lunch... I omit the 30 min. of exercise though. Each can has about a third of all needed vitmains and minerals. Of course, I always wonder how much of those go down the toliet. Well, I mainly stick to it because it is cheaper and "healthier" than anything else I could pick for myself to eat for lunch. It's either that or McDonalds... Hey, I do spoil myself every now and then.

  • This doesn't seem particularly nerd-relevent (Score:3, Insightful)

    by daviddennis ( 10926 ) <david@amazing.com> on Wednesday October 29, 2003 @11:49AM (#7338658) Homepage
    Yes, we should exercise more, and yes, we should eat better, but it looks like vitamin D deficiency is mainly a problem with kids because their bones are still growing and forming.

    I suppose it's a nice frame to hang a discussion of diet and exercise on, but the issue itself doesn't seem like it applies to most of us.

    Being in Southern California, and being outdoors way more than 45 minutes a week, it would appear that I'm taken care of for this problem. Pity that doesn't make me any lighter :-).

    From my viewpoint, the real problem is that exercise strikes me as a mindless waste of time and effort. I watch people in gyms mindlessly walking to nowhere or pulling stuff on machines until they sweat and ache, and to be honest it sounds like a miserable, dumb and unproductive way to spend time.

    Exercise and better diet strike me as a lot of pain for little gain. The negative effects on one's life show up immediately and the positive ones take huge amounts of time to appear. So it's all too easy to give up and say it's just not worth it.

    That explains the problem; as of yet I have not come up with anything like a solution. But perhaps this statement of the problem will give people some ideas.

    D

    • The article discussed the impact on children, adults and seniors, maybe not explicitly, but it's all there, making the topic relevant to many.

      Exercise is not pointless. Increasing your baseline strength, coordination, endurance and flexibility will make you more likely to live independently and actively as you age. This is an excellent reason to exercise frequently

      As for exericise seeming mindless, that is a function of the particular activity.
    • > I watch people in gyms mindlessly walking to nowhere or pulling stuff on machines until they sweat and ache, and to be honest it sounds like a miserable, dumb and unproductive way to spend time.

      I couldn't agree more. The word BORING just shouts out at me from those places. But what do you have if you don't have your health? Do you watch TV? Read? How about buying an elliptical trainer and putting it in front of the TV? You can even read while on the ones that don't excercise the arms. This is
      • You can get exericise machines for cheap at yard sales and through classified listings like Craigslist. People buy them and then leave them sitting around gathering dust. Maybe you'll do the same but at least you can buy the machine for 80% off to start with.
      • I used to think going to a gym was boring, but if you bring along an iPod or a friend it can become fun. Just imagine you are hanging out with your friends or listening to music, but you just happen to be lifting weights or using machines at the same time.

        If you think of it more as another event (listening to music) with some exercise thrown in, it makes it easier. I hope that makes sense.
    • Exercise and better diet strike me as a lot of pain for little gain. The negative effects on one's life show up immediately and the positive ones take huge amounts of time to appear.

      I've yet to experience any negative effects from diet and exercise. The "sweat and ache" you refer to is not a negative, it is a positive. Most people get a high from working out, both physically and mentally. Most people like seeing their physical appearance improve. Most people like getting stronger. Most people like t
      • Diet and exercise are some of the most important things you can do for your body.

        I have to watch my diet very carefully. My stomach had become extremely touchy, and I find it hard to eat any kind of greasy or sweet foods that American cuisine is so laden with. Although it's been hard and I still sometimes have cravings for these kinds of foods, I keep consumption to a minimum...it doesn't hurt that I still feel sick to my stomach after eating a candy bar or pizza.

        Anyways, my point is that as hard as it ma
      • On a side note, I just returned from Paris, and I can tell you that almost every obese person I saw their was a fellow American. Even if they weren't busy making asses out of themselves as stereotypical tourists, they would stick out like a sore thumb due to their wider than average girth.

        Try living here for a while, those observations are burned permanently into your brain. I never realized how loud and downright huge we are until I lived outside the country and saw our best and brightest on vacation.
    • From my viewpoint, the real problem is that exercise strikes me as a mindless waste of time and effort. I watch people in gyms mindlessly walking to nowhere or pulling stuff on machines until they sweat and ache, and to be honest it sounds like a miserable, dumb and unproductive way to spend time. Exercise and better diet strike me as a lot of pain for little gain. The negative effects on one's life show up immediately and the positive ones take huge amounts of time to appear. So it's all too easy to give
    • my solution is stationary bike + book. Bring something really intellectually challenging that requires a lot of concentration to read (structure and interpretation of computer programs has been my choice lately) and start pedaling. Read something that makes your brain ache more than your muscles and you wont notice the exercise. I find it helps my concentration too, you can't get up and wander around and the repetitive action is kind of focusing like controlled breathing is for meditation. Make it a half ho
    • Exercise and better diet strike me as a lot of pain for little gain. The negative effects on one's life show up immediately and the positive ones take huge amounts of time to appear. So it's all too easy to give up and say it's just not worth it.

      Except the negative ones often don't show up until it's too late to do anything when they could have been prevented by light exercise and simple diet changes.

      Two cases: My friend T is 65, 0% body fat, plays full court basketball 2-3x per week and unless he's
  • Another article bought and paid for by the Dairy Councel. Just my 2 cents

  • WHAT? (Score:4, Funny)

    by Bastian ( 66383 ) on Wednesday October 29, 2003 @12:12PM (#7338891)
    You mean I can't just cut all the bread out of my diet and get healthy eating nothing but beef and cheese? I have to eat vegetables and go for walks!?
    • In all seriousness, cutting all the bread out of your diet is a good place to start for health improvement. Beef is ok, but not as your sole source of nutrition. Cheese is problematic, but not because of the fat.

      About a week after I eliminated bread from my diet (over 4 years ago now), my hands quit hurting all the time, and the pain has never come back. (See Life Without Bread [amazon.com] by Dr. Lutz)

      Eliminating bread, potatoes, and sugar from my diet has tremendously boosted my health -- and made it a lot more f
      • Granted, but I gotta say that low-fat does NOT mean high-carb. I've been a vegan for quite a while now, and I've experienced similar improvements in my health - I don't get headaches anymore and I don't feel the need to take a nap during the day, where I used to need at least a 30 minute siesta after I got off work.

        And my diet is not particularly high-carb. I got curious about that a few months ago, did some calorie-counting, and discovered that most days my intake was somewhere around 1,500. (2,500 on
  • If everyone acted like did before food came from the supermarket they'd be healthy. That means exercise, drink water, don't eat sugar, eat meat, vegetables, and fruit and that's a recipie for a healthy life.

  • stereotypes (Score:3, Insightful)

    by YouHaveSnail ( 202852 ) on Wednesday October 29, 2003 @02:28PM (#7340224)
    The ultimate solution to this and many other health-related problems that techies suffer is a proper diet coupled with a multivitamin supplement and regular exercise. Too bad that these choices are so unpopular.

    I hereby reject the notion that poor nutrition and lack of exercise are problems that "techies" suffer any more than other groups of similar composition (age, gender, education, etc.). Not all "techies" are anti-social pasty-faced overweight Jolt-drinking pizza-gobbling couch potatoes. In fact, I don't currently know any of those.
  • Vitamin D is one of the cheapest vitamins to purchase.

    I take 400 Mg in the day and 400 at night.

    Lots of the new respected doctors recommend it and from what I heard on NPR is that you can't overdose on it. You body will only use what it needs. Of course, you should do your own research on this to verify.

    But a month's worth of D capsules are about 6 bucks. It's kinda hard to go wrong at that price.

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