Galileo, Consumed by Jupiter 256
We ran stories about Galileo's impending incineration earlier this month and last November when the plan was decided.
Here is a typical passage from Journey Beyond Selene, about the worst glitch in Galileo's mission, and the beginnings of how it would be worked around. Failures and the engineers who salvage them are the recurring tragic, triumphant story of our missions into space. Reproduced without permission:
With such triply redundant hardware built into their spacecraft, mission planners could feel confident that they had designed a communications system that was almost completely resistant to failure, and for the first eighteen months after Galileo's 1989 launch, there was no reason to assume anything would fail. Finally, on April 11, 1991, when the ship's trajectory had spiraled out as far as the edge of the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter, JPL planners decided it was at last probably safe to unlock the high-gain antenna and spread its ribs. It was only then that they'd learn if triply redundant was redundant enough.
Though the deployment of the high-gain system was not a complicated exercise, it was a critical one, and for that reason the chieftans of the Galileo project made sure they were there to watch it happen. On hand at the flight director's console that afternoon were mission director Neal Ausman, deputy mission director Matt Landanow, and project manager Bill O'Neil. O'Neil and Ausman were far and away the higher ranking of the three men, but Landanow, they all knew, was far and away the most knowledgeable. As chief engineer during the Galileo design phase, he had familiarized himself with every strut, nut and rivet of the ship, and could practically describe their placement and purpose from memory alone. If anything went wrong this afternoon, Landanow would likely be the first person to recognize it -- and the first person to come up with a way to fix it.
For the first forty minutes or so after the deployment command went up, O'Neil, Ausman and Landanow had little to do. Like so many other JPL controllers before them, they knew they would have to tolerate the nonnegotiable limits of light speed, waiting twenty minutes as their signal traveled from Pasadena to the spacecraft and then another twenty minutes as it traveled back again. For that entire time their screens told them nothing, flickering merely with the self-evident information that their command had indeed been sent. Finally, after just over the anticipated forty minutes had elapsed, a column of numbers began to blink on the glass. Landanow gave the figures a quick scan and immediately noticed something amiss. He read them again -- a bit more closely -- and this time started to feel downright queasy. The antenna, from all indications, was pulling what the engineers called stall current. The motor was drawing power, the deployment gears were engaged, but the ribs of the umbrella appeared to be going nowhere at all.
"We're stuck," Landanow said flatly.
"How can you tell?" O'Neil asked.
"The current is saturated, something is jammed," Landanow said. "In any event, the antenna's not budging."
Ausman gave the numbers on the screen a read of his own, confirmed what Landanow was saying, and immediately called out to his flight controllers, instructing them to send a second deployment command up to the ship. The engineers complied, and forty minutes later another stall signal came down. A third command yielded a third signal, and a fourth a fourth. With each new report Landanow winced. If he knew this ship -- and he surely did -- he could all but guarantee that whatever was hanging up the antenna was not much: a single too-tight fitting, perhaps, a single protruding bolt, one that was situated in just such a way that it managed to jam all eighteen ribs. If it were somehow possible to transport the Galileo spacecraft to a hangar in Pasadena, Landanow knew he could probably roll over a stepladder, climb up to the antenna, and spring it free with his hands alone. But Galileo was not in a hangar in Pasadena; it was tens of millions of miles away, at the edge of the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter, and more elaborate measures would be necessary.
transcript from last time this happened in 1995 (Score:5, Interesting)
________ _____
11:04 a.m. Coast timer initiates probe operation
12:46 p.m. Orbiter flyby of Io (~1000 km) (No imaging or spectral data collected)
2:04 p.m. Energetic Particles Investigation (EPI) begins measuring trapped radiation in a region previously unexplored.
5:04 p.m. Probe entry and data relay
5:05:52 p.m. Pilot parachute deployed
5:05:54 p.m. Main Parachute deployed
5:06:02 p.m. Deceleration module jettisoned
5:06:06 p.m. Direct scientific measurements begin
5:06:15 p.m. Radio transmission to orbiter begins
~5:08 p.m. Visible cloud tops of Jupiter reached
5:12 p.m. Atmospheric pressure the same as Earth's sea-level pressure
5:17 p.m. Second major cloud deck is encountered (uncertain)
5:28 p.m. Water clouds entered (uncertain)
5:34 p.m. Atmospheric temperature equal to room temperature on Earth
5:46 p.m. Probe enters twilight
6:04 p.m. End of baseline mission. Probe may cease to operate due to lack of battery power, attenuation of signal due to atmosphere, or being crushed.
6:19 p.m. Orbiter ceases to receive probe data (if still transmitting)
7:27 p.m. Ignition of Galileo main engine (49 minute duration) to insert into Jovian orbit
Unexpected last transmition from Galileo.... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Unexpected last transmition from Galileo.... (Score:2)
All these worlds are yours except Europa. Attempt no landings there.
Goodbye (Score:4, Interesting)
It's history has been plagued with problems, ones it has overcame.
If any spacecraft would show the history and power of space travel, I think this probe is one of them.
Re:Goodbye (Score:2)
It's history has been plagued with problems, ones it has overcome
the human adventure is only beginning...
Wrong tense (Score:3, Insightful)
Conceived in 1977, launched in 1989, the spacecraft Galileo ends its 34th orbit exactly one hour from now
Little early for the past tense 'consumed' don't you think?
(I can already see the 'not any more' post below this one in an hour)
Re:Wrong tense (Score:2)
Well, Jim, it sure as hell ain't going anywhere else... As good as consumed, I'd say.
Re:Wrong tense (Score:2, Funny)
By the time this ungodly slashdotting ends and I will finally be able to see NASA's pages on the topic, Galileo will already be consumed by Jupiter... so in a way, it's probably correct.
Re:Wrong tense (Score:2, Informative)
Outstanding achievement (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Outstanding achievement (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Outstanding achievement (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Outstanding achievement (Score:2)
Still, NASA doesn't often point this out, but we did lose out on a lot of data. In particular, the cloud observations were pretty much scrapped altogether. (Rather than look at the clouds during much of its Jovian orbit, Galileo had
Watching online (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Watching online (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Watching online (Score:2)
Re:Watching online (Score:3, Informative)
The CU-SeeMe transmissions are B/W and fairly small image, but update much faster than the webcast.
The multicast version is in full color, and appears to be 1/2 NTSC image size. (It pixellates slightly at larger sizes.)
If you've access to the MBone, I strongly recommend getting SDR, VIC and RAT from the MICE project, over at UCL. There should be links to these projects from Freshmeat. There are binari
It's probes like this... (Score:5, Insightful)
Live webcast? (Score:5, Funny)
Hehe.. and just so that it doesn't feel left out, that JPL webserver is currently experiencing what its like to get smashed into Jupiter at 48km/s
Good old Slashdot.
Re:Live webcast? (Score:2, Funny)
If you are thinking "what about significant figures?" then no one loves you.
The suspense is unimaginable! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:The suspense is unimaginable! (Score:4, Funny)
Galelio for nobel prize (Score:2)
I am grieving that the satellite exploring jupiter is dieing. How should I be happy with a satellite that is exploring saturn? I nominate Galelio for nobel prize in science.
Re:Galelio for nobel prize (Score:2)
Alternate feeds of NASA TV (Score:4, Informative)
Slashdot saves Galileo! (Score:5, Funny)
RealBad (Score:5, Funny)
Crap. All NASA offers is RealPlayer.
Miss seeing Galileo crash into Jupiter
or
Spend thirty minutes clicking half a dozen hidden, misleadingly named submenu checkboxes to retain my privacy. And then spend three days un-doing RealPlayer's attempt to take over my entire system and all file extensions.
Screw it. I won't download any insertions into bodies no matter how heavenly if it's in RealPlayer format. Definitely not gonna start with something's that not porn. I'll catch the 2 minute recap on the news.
Re:RealBad (Score:2, Informative)
Re:RealBad (Score:2)
Cheers,
Costyn.
This is quite cool (Score:2, Interesting)
The strange thing though is that their site (Nasa) cannot hold up on the preasure from slashdot.
not just slashdot (Score:2)
Relativity, Light cones, and cats (Score:2)
Re:Relativity, Light cones, and cats (Score:2)
If you board a hypothetical spacecraft right which can travel at say, 0.9c so you'll get to jupiter in time to watch the event. If you take your stopwatch with you you'll see that only a few minutses went by since you boarded the spacecraft. However for the rest of us an hour will have passed since you left. It doesn't quite make sense to say that the crash w
Re:Relativity, Light cones, and cats (Score:2)
No
Re:Relativity, Light cones, and cats (Score:2)
1) I can see the time on earth (big telescope), and know how far in light seconds I am away
2) I can see the time on galileo which is the time on earth give or take a nanosecond.
However, why am I flying towards galileo? Time goes slow for me because I'm mov
Re:Relativity, Light cones, and cats (Score:2)
You are basically saying, if you get in a spaceship, and blast off towards Jupiter, is it you moving or Jupiter. It seems obvious, but how do we know??? Well, you were the one who accelerated... you turned some potential energy into kinetic energy with your rocket (increasing your
Re:Relativity, Light cones, and cats (Score:2)
Re:Relativity, Light cones, and cats (Score:2)
Re:Relativity, Light cones, and cats (Score:2)
What makes you so sure? (Score:2)
Bet? [ldolphin.org] (-:
Or if you prefer something less radical, consider that there are a number of other constants tied to c; in other words, they are as constant as c is.
Why? (Score:2)
Re:Why? (Score:5, Informative)
The maneuvering fuel is nearly gone, and the spacecraft components have sustained many tens of times their design tolerances of radiation. Taken together, it's entirely possible that Galileo would soon become uncontrollable and crash somewhere like Eurpoa, where we may one day send probes to search for life. Because Galileo was not sterilized before launch, it would contaminate wherever it ended up, and could cast doubt of any future test results from expeditions there.
(As a testimony to the hardiness of life, microbes on a camera lens or something were brought to and back from the moon, it wasn't until later that they realized someone sneezed on the lens or some nonsense and the damn bugs survived the whole round trip).
While it would be nostalgic to have left Galileo in orbital purgatory around Jupiter, it's not possible to do this with any assurance that it won't later be a hazard. It is fitting, in a way, that Galileo will become part of Jupiter, the target of so much of its (and his) focus. If only NASA would bring the success of this mission into the public spotlight as a way to raise awareness as to its more successful programs.
Coming soon to Saturn - Cassini, July 4, 2004. (Alas, the last of the "great explorer" probes.)
Re:Why? (Score:3, Informative)
Any bacteria on the craft would probably be killed by the radiation as well, but it isn't really worth taking that chance (life is amazingly tenacious).
But more thanjust the "safety" aspect, there are real reasons why Galileo had to go down - JPL wanted ot use
Re:Why? (Score:2)
Re:Why? Life (?) at risk! (Score:4, Insightful)
Briefly, it's because it might otherwise crash into Europe (the moon, not the continent). It has itself discovered that conditions (water) exists on Europe that might habour life (however primitive), and crashing a sattelite from Earth with possible bacteria might contaminate Europe (the moon) with lethal bacteria.
It might sound like far-fetched science fiction - it ain't. It's the official reason for the Jupiter crash.
Hehe (Score:3, Funny)
from a telemetry station in JPL... (Score:5, Funny)
"Hey, look we finally got the antenna open.. oh, wait, never mind."
Last post! (Score:5, Funny)
picture of the last minute... (Score:3, Interesting)
http://lucifer.intercosmos.net/g.jpg
It is kind of sad..
and I don't know why.
Re:picture of the last minute... (Score:4, Funny)
Seems like a good time to expand on my usual .sig (Score:2)
--Bertrand Russell
(from "A Free Man's Worship")
The noonday brightness of human genius... (Score:2)
Relative to ...? (Score:3, Interesting)
So, that's 48 km/s relative to what? If it's correct to assume the writer meant "relative to Jupiter," then that is ridiculously fast. IIRC, typical orbits around Earth manage only ~8-10km/s.
Yes, I realize Jupiter is larger than Earth, but still...
Re:Relative to ...? (Score:3, Informative)
mass of Jupiter / mass of Earth = 317.816611
So Jupiter has 317 times the mass of Earth. That's why the orbit is faster.
Re:Relative to ...? (Score:4, Insightful)
Metis [MEE-tis] is the innermost known satellite of Jupiter. According to this page [solarviews.com] Metis orbits at a mean distance of 127,969 km with a Mean orbital velocity of 31.57 km/sec. So 48 km/sec is not so ridiculous.
Jupiter's Escape Velocity is 56 km/sec (Score:3, Informative)
It's amazing that the atmosphere probe, which entered at 47 km/sec, managed a controlled deceleration and survived.
What if (Score:2)
Just great, another 'lost' planetary probe. (Score:4, Funny)
Tell me another story, Grampa.
I ain't buyin' it. NASA just screwed up again and arranged the phony paper trail on their website, complete with press releases, as a massive coverup. Hey, if they can make up a Moon Shot (Capricorn One? Galileo 2003? Sure!) then they can definitely cover up a screwup like this one.
USA Attacks Jupiter!?!?! (Score:4, Funny)
When will this administration stop?!?!?!?
Re:USA Attacks Jupiter!?!?! (Score:2)
When will this administration stop?!?!?!?
Wow! You're hysterical! Even more hysterical is that "this administration" that was around when Galileo was conceived was the Nobel Peace Prize winning 38th President of the USA, Jimmy Carter.
Re:USA Attacks Jupiter!?!?! (Score:3, Funny)
Requiescat 1802 (Score:5, Interesting)
You may not have had a proper subroutine mechanism, you may have had a bizarre instruction set (with a SEX instruction no less), but you were the first processor for which I ever wrote a set of floating point routines. Rest in peace, old friend.
Nobody asked me (Score:2)
Cassini sent the movie of Jupiter's pole as it flew by on its way to Saturn. Given the enormous winds on Jupiter, the eye could extend a dive into the atmosphere a lot further than going in anywhere else as the pressure has got to be substantially lower inside the eye. Getting a signal out of there would be tricky but just try and imagine what's at the bottom of the eye.
Noooooo I missed it! (Score:2)
Well... (Score:4, Funny)
the saddest part... (Score:2, Interesting)
What it also means is we don't actually know for certain that it crashed. I mean, maybe on the blind side it pulled back up, was rescued by a spacecraft, or...who knows! Wasn't ther ean old original Star Trek that went along those lines? An old space probe that went nuts, and spawned a civiliza
Fox news (Score:3, Funny)
I was wondering what level of disturbance would be required before the entire galaxy was "disrupted" -- simply being visible across the entire galaxy, a tremor like an earthquake, or something more sinister? Perhaps Fox needs a galactic Richter scale to better scare the masses. "It's a 0.00009 on the Asimov scale, which doesn't seem like much and we won't feel any effects; but if you were there, you'd be killed, alright!"
Slashdot behind the times (Score:2)
Don't forget, this is Slashdot, no need for me to RTFA.
Remember to support JIMO (Score:2)
NASA is working on a really, super exciting project called Jupitor Icey Moons Orbitor. This project, should it be allowed to proceed with full funding, would:
a) Create a space based nuclear reactor
b) Use that reactor to power an ion engine
c) Use that ion engine to not only get to Jupiter in record time, but also to explore all of the major moons and for months at a time.
d) The power from the nuclear plant would be used to do a deep penetrating radar scan of Europe and the other icey moons. This will allo
What about contamination of Jupiter? (Score:2)
I am really not that worried. Between the years in a hard vacuum, bazillio
Re:Wow, I was worried (Score:5, Funny)
HOW DID YOU FIND OUT! (Score:4, Funny)
PINKY! Here, NOW!
Re:Wow, I was worried (Score:2)
stegosauri?
Re:Wow, I was worried (Score:5, Funny)
I heard that you can't get radio reception in a room lined with tinfoil.
A Faraday cage around the transmitter... (Score:2)
Sad News (Score:5, Funny)
I just heard some sad news on talk radio - NASA probe Galileo was incinerated in Jupiter's atmosphere this afternoon. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss it - even if you didn't enjoy its transmissions, there's no denying its contributions to popular culture. Truly an American icon.
Re:Wow, I was worried (Score:2)
Re:Wow, I was worried (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Wow, I was worried (Score:2)
Re:Wow, I was worried (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Wow, I was worried (Score:2)
Re:a new Sun? (Score:5, Funny)
Man, that would make a great book.
Re:a new Sun? (Score:4, Funny)
I'm sorry, haven't you heard that Europa is forever off-limits to us?
Re:a new Sun? (Score:4, Insightful)
interesting? (Score:3, Insightful)
-Sean
Re:a new Sun? (Score:5, Interesting)
Are you fucking nuts? Talk about "argument from ignorance"! "I don't understand the first bit of what I'm talking about, but I'm going to babble on anyhow!"
I will personally guarentee you that vast quantities of plutonium, and for that matter every other known element, already exist in Jupiter. Just because it's a "gas planet" doesn't mean it's made entirely of gas.
Moreover, if anything was going to "set Jupiter off" it would have been set off already! Remember Shoemaker-Levy 9 [seds.org] smacking in Jupiter? That's huge quantities of energy, large enough to roil up clouds larger then Earth itself! And that's nothing compared to what even Earth has seen in its history, let alone the King of Planets. (There's no way to know but personally I'd bet at least one moon-sized impact has hit Jupiter in the past. Your choice of "Jovian moon-sized" or "Earth moon-sized".)
The only "danger" from forty pounds of plutonium several light minutes away are the quantities of hot air it can still generate here back on earth. Get over your pathetic 1950's-era nuclear fears already. It's just matter, not black magic!
This is gunna sound very when-I-were-a-lad, but... (Score:2)
Re:This is gunna sound very when-I-were-a-lad, but (Score:2)
Touche.
Something I now wish I had posted: "There aren't any cosmic bombs waiting to go off, because on the Cosmic scale, the universe is always throwing sparks at things. If Jupiter didn't blow up during accretion, it's not going to. Every planet is constantly bombarded by high-energy cosmic rays, and constantly bombarded with high-energy kinetic impacts. Anything that can be lit
Ah, so you /like/ big sparks? (-: (Score:2)
Like this one [nasa.gov]. Flat bottom, paired damage, steep sides, right-angled crossings, almost ignores surrounding terrain... doesn't fit anything except arc machining. A good one to watch from a long way off. Notice also the paired craters scattered all about.
Re:a new Sun? (Score:5, Informative)
a) The main fissionable form of plutonium is Pu-239, not Pu-238.
b) Even if this was Pu-239 on board, forty pounds thereof is a borderline critical mass. You would need tampers to make it a good bomb.
c) Even if this was Pu-239 on board and there was enough of it for a critical mass, it is not arranged in a critical geometry that will produce good fission under a Jovian pressure crush.
d) Even if this was Pu-239 in a critical mass in a critical geometry, Galileo lacks the tritium primer required to kickstart a fusion reaction from a fission reaction.
e) Even if Galileo had a working thermonuclear weapon on board, a thermonuclear detonation on Jupiter would not blow up Jupiter, because there isn't enough of an oxygen fraction in the Jovian atmosphere to set the hydrogen afire. Think about it. Jupiter has collided with large asteroids and comets before now. These collisions give off heat considerably in excess of any nuclear detonation. The huge pressures at Jupiter's interior produce heat considerably in excess of any nuclear detonation. If Jupiter could have turned into a star (it cannot) it would have done so by now.
f) Learn more about physics.
Yes, but what about Nitrogen? (Score:2)
Now, I know that there isn't much Oxygen on Jupiter, but does that mean that there is no Nitrogen on Jupiter? It does not. Therefore I have proven that...
friend pulls tin hat down around ears, then down to chin
mph fph mum
Re:a new Sun? (Score:2)
Comet SL9 fragment G hit Jupiter with an estimated force of 6 MILLION megatons.
If it was that easy to cause a fusion reaction in atmospheric hydrogen, we'd all have fusion reactors in our basements by now.
Re:a new Sun? (Score:5, Informative)
Bzzt. You fail physics. 1) the probe will likely be vaporized into a 1000-km trail of dust by the impact with the atmosphere at 48 km/s. It won't slow down intact and then sink into the core of Jupiter. 2) The temperature reaches the melting point of metal a few thousand kms down into Jupiter. Even if the probe was intact by the time it sank that far, it would melt/dissolve long before it reached the core. 3) The RTG's contain Pu-238, which as has been stated repeatedly, is not suitable as a nuclear explosive. 4) Even if there was an explosion, it is so incredibly miniscule compared to the mass/size of Jupiter that it simply would not matter. 5) Jupiter CANNOT sustain nuclear fusion - it simply lacks the mass. The pressure in the core is far too low to overcome Coulomb repulsion between protons so that they can fuse. The minimum mass of a star that can sustain fusion is approximately 75 Jupiter masses. That is very, very well-understood physics (look up the astronomical tem "brown dwarf").
Re:a new Sun? (Score:2)
Jupiter's already on continuous fire, most likely.. the only reason Earth has a high-fraction oxygen atmospher is because we have living systems cracking carbon dioxide and producing more oxygen all the time. In other places without life (like Mars), whatever oxygen might have been present chemically burns against other elements.. that's why Mars is so red, all the rust is iron burned with oxygen.
Chemical burning of that sort is going on here on Earth, of course, but life is faster and more energetic at
Re:a new Sun? (Score:5, Informative)
That is because throwing 48 pounds of Pu-238 (which is useless as weapons grade material, Pu-239 is much better for sustaining fission chain reactions) into Jupiter is like tossing a salt shaker into the ocean. Jupiter already has massive radition belts generated by its interactions with the solar wind. It has surely ingested more than 48 pounds of the various isotopes of Uranium from the thousands or millions of meteorite strikes Jupiter has sustained. And the total energy that could be released by complete fission of all of that plutonium into stable elements would insignificant next to the gravitational-potential energy released by the steady contraction of Jupiter's gas clouds that results from the planet's massive gravitational pull. Because of this contraction, Jupiter already releases significantly more energy back into space that it absorbs from the sun.
Finally, with a total mass that is about 0.0001 times that of the Sun, Jupiter is too small to support fusion reactions in its core by about two (2) orders of magnitude. The smallest stars are about 0.08 times the Sun's mass.
Re:a new Sun? (Score:2)
thank you for the best laugh of the day.
"While it is a giant catcher, it is also the largest pressure cooker of our solar system and it could crush Galileo's 48 pounds of Plutonium. The result could be a Jovian Nagasaki with dire consequences for humankind." in the article and this masterpiece next to it as advertisement "Now that we're past the Nibiru fear mongering, is this ancient planet still orbiting our Sun? Yes, and right now we have the luxury of time to prepare ourselves mentally and spiritu
Re:a new Sun? (Score:2)
You see, for a fission reaction to runaway, when an atom of material splits (which is triggered by, say, bombardment by neutrons), the reaction emits various forms of energy. In a run-away fission reaction, the splitting of one atom generates enough neutrons to cause other atoms to split, and so on. From the articl
The save-the-Darwinism fund? (Score:2)
Well, there's always Neo-Darwinism or the New Synthesis, and when that starts looking too silly there'll be some variant of Punctuated Equilibrium raised, you can be sure. Darwinism is important to a lot of people - their religion is based upon it, <irony weight=crushing>so they won't let it die off naturally, as it should</irony>. (-:
Re:As something else conceived in 1977 (Score:2)
Re:Act of War - Interplanetary Terrorism (Score:2, Funny)