

Worst Jobs In Science 340
FortKnox writes "Popular science has the worst jobs in science. Some are silly, some are sick, some make you angry, and some just flat-out suck." And some of them sound fun :)
You can write a small letter to Grandma in the filename. -- Forbes Burkowski, CS, University of Washington
Astro-what? (Score:5, Interesting)
yeah (Score:2)
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"Thagard also had the distinction of being the first person ever to clean out animal cages in orbit, on the Spacelab 3 in 1985. Engineers promised him that the cages would be at negative pressure, so none of the weightless waste of 24 rats and 2 squirrel monkeys would escape. But when Thagard opened the cages, air rushed outward, leading to a frantic floating-feces chase scene."
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Finally! (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Finally! (Score:5, Funny)
The worst science job I know of was my friend who worked in the lab of his father, a world famous research scientist. His job entailed picking white mice out of one bucket, snapping thier necks with a stick, and putting them in another bucket. Hours on end of executing mice.
Clerks trivia- The above line is spoken by Kevin Smith's sister.
-B
Re:Finally! (Score:5, Funny)
Alex
Re:Finally! (Score:5, Funny)
It's a sexist world out there.
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#8 --ouch! (Score:3, Funny)
Hope there's not too much "hands-on" experience involved with that.....the scientific method could really start to be a "pain in the ass..."
Re:#8 --ouch! (Score:3, Funny)
Re:#8 --ouch! (Score:3, Interesting)
I worry mostly about the Barney-the-Dinosaur looking icon they have next to the job...
I didn't find it at all ironic that Barney-the-Dinosaur was used to symbolize emotional trauma.
Of course, my kids still don't understand why I hate their little talking Barney so. I threw that thing across the room one day when it started singin "I love you, you love me" and my wife yelled at me. Guess I need a little Anger Management.
Re:#8 --ouch! (Score:2, Funny)
Types of jobs (Score:5, Funny)
So, it's actually a list of all the science jobs...
Re:Types of jobs (Score:5, Interesting)
It was definitely a "make you sick" job.
Re:Types of jobs (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Types of jobs (Score:4, Informative)
Anyway, we already have such a device. Here in Minnesota, it's called "outside". But our thermostat isn't very well regulated, and the regulator we do have is tied to a 24 hour cycle, causing the temperatures to swing wildly. Carcasses eventually spoil under these conditions.
There are no government-meat-locker-vans, standing by the woods just waiting to take away the freshly decapitated heads of deer. The DNR doesn't have walk-in freezers available to hold the thousands of heads they need to autopsy. And even if they thought about it in these times of budget crises, why would they? Onerous refrigeration requirements, outlandish electrical bills, all just to make my friend's job a little less disgusting?
Not really a science related job (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Not really a science related job (Score:4, Funny)
Yeah, but anybody answering phones at Verisign is already used to being called a cow-felching pig masturbator for eight hours a day.
Who got the dogs off? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Who got the dogs off? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Who got the dogs off? (Score:2, Funny)
Err, probably depends on how it gets it's jollies, if it has a rimjob fetish, I would say you're in a whole world of trouble.
By the way, why don't I have a fat, ugly people fetish? Life would be so much easier that way.
Re:Who got the pigs off? (Score:3, Funny)
I love the smell of maggots in the morning... (Score:5, Interesting)
I think the whole point is to figure out ways to remove them from crops without damaging the crops or using pesticides. She likes her job, though. The only problem is that burning fruitfly maggots smell not entirely unlike barbecue or popcorn, so she invariably leaves the lab hungry...
Re:I love the smell of maggots in the morning... (Score:5, Interesting)
Does PETA have a hissy-fit, or are they not cute and fuzzy enough to garner their attention?
Re:I love the smell of maggots in the morning... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:I love the smell of maggots in the morning... (Score:3, Funny)
In a superhero universe, a fraction of those fruit flies would spontaneously manifest super powers and escape!
"Escape, Flame-Fly, go! And someday be strong enough to rescue my 45th generation!"
(ref: "Elementals", "Planetary", and "DC Invasion" all used this gimmick to make new supes)
Those are hardly bad jobs, (Score:2)
I think... (Score:2, Insightful)
And you thought YOUR job sucked... (Score:5, Funny)
And you thought YOUR job sucked...
Re:And you thought YOUR job sucked... (Score:4, Funny)
Cheap shot (Score:5, Funny)
No Kidding (Score:3, Funny)
So what did they do with Mr. Ed?
All the jobs on one page (Score:5, Informative)
Here's the printable page [clickability.com].
Hee hee, barnyard masturbator...
Worst Jobs in Science: (Score:2)
Just kidding- hey at least there's a link for you to open in a new tab.
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Worst Computer Sciences Jobs... (Score:5, Funny)
2. SCO Unix Grep Boy
3. Microsoft DLL Librarian
4. Commander Taco's Perl Monkey
Feel free to add more...
Re:Worst Computer Sciences Jobs... (Score:3, Funny)
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Not that he's all that bad or anything, I just don't know of any other Jobses in CS (so he would also win the "Best CS Jobs" award).
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#10 - Postdoc... oh yes. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:#10 - Postdoc... oh yes. (Score:2)
Re:#10 - Postdoc... oh yes. (Score:5, Interesting)
There is the option for Ph.D's to come to Canada. Almost all our baby-boomer faculty retire in the next 10 years. It probably won't pay so well as the USA, but there are quite a few intangible benefits, like social services and less violent crime.
You should be able to work here under NAFTA, with an M.Sc. or Ph.D. Not that you may want to, but it is an option, in a slightly out-of-sync economy.
Re:#10 - Postdoc... oh yes. (Score:2)
Re:#10 - Postdoc... oh yes. (Score:4, Interesting)
This, unfortunately is true. However, speaking as someone who is starting their post-doc, I can tell you that the money is significantly better than it is as a grad-student. As for the budgetary constraints, yeah, unless you are in defense right now, funding is not going to be as easy at least until W. is voted out of office.
On the positive side, if you can find a post-doc where they will let you run your own show (i.e. you go into a post-doc with your own ideas, rather than simply serving as someone elses labor fodder), then things can be rather different. Additionally, the NIH post doctoral funding does not preclude you from getting additional funding or $$'s from consulting or from your own business. (VC funding is starting to look up for biotech).
As for the hours, yeah. Science is hard dude, what were you expecting? So I guess you need to ask yourself why you are interested? There are other intangibles, but if you are simply interested in making money, go sell cars or something. I will tell you though, that making money and science are not mutually exclusive. I was able to make out quite nicely with a couple of small inexpensive databases, a couple of SGI's and a hired computational chemist for one years investment and I know of a number of individuals who are doing quite nicely. My neighbor is a VP at a biotech company (Ph.D.) and he is doing quite well, two of the Ph.D's at his company are driving Ferrari's, one of my dissertation committee members has co-founded a biotech company and is making wine in his spare time, my Ph.D. mentor has his own biotech company, etc...etc...etc... It just takes some (harder) work, a little insight, some luck, a focus on what you want to do and a really good idea of your target market.
The Hours (Score:3, Insightful)
Well, personally, grad school taught me that working long hours is usually pointless (as the evening wears on you become less productive) and that to be honest, I'm not the sort of person who gets serious jollies from being in the lab. I can enjoy the work but only if it's balanced with time to socialize, rest and relax. Otherwise it becomes a grim grind, bitter and joyless.
overdone one (Score:2, Interesting)
Why Astronaut is one of the worst jobs (Score:2, Funny)
Need I say more?
I think I've changed my mind (Score:5, Funny)
Beef stroganoff (Score:3, Funny)
So his first day in the new job comes and goes, and I call him to see how it went.
"Not so good", he says.
Why not? I ask.
"I had to draw the bull today" he tells me with loathing. Draw the bull? WTF? What's so bad about that? And what does art have to do with animal husbandry/
Not "draw" he tells me.... Draw the bull... you know...
There's a moral somewhere to that story, something about choosing between Governor and stroking off a large animal, but I'm not quite seeing it.
Maybe Gray Davis can enlighten me.
I love the icons (Score:5, Funny)
But what the hell is depicted in the "physical torture" icon?
And does anyone know if there's a drug with the nickname "William"? The article's author would probably like to know.
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hamster masturbation (Score:4, Funny)
Every hamster has his day!
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Chris Mattern
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I was a teenage stool-sample analyzer (Score:5, Funny)
Normal Science (Score:5, Interesting)
[...]Post has devoted 50 years of his life to achieving this critical point, called breakeven, and it's still up to 20 years away--"and always will be," [...]
(Disclaimer: IANAS, please correct me if your know better) It's a little something called a normal career in science. How many lifetimes have and will be spent searching for a cure for cancer? There's a decent chance that many current theories in physics (such as string theory) may be wrong, and this will only be discovered after many lifetimes of lost work. How is this any different from many other types of scientific research or theory? Fusion research is not, presumably, just redoing the same experiment over and over with different variable values, it's (again, presumably) like any other type of research (even historical, economic, etc.), with new developments and theories, constantly changing and having nothing to do with farts, shit or 'milking' large, male land mammals, especially those named 'Tyrone' (RTFA, #8).
Re:Normal Science (Score:3, Interesting)
Another important job listed in there that will eventually lead to savings of billions per annum is the metric system advocate. However, I do not consider that a science job, it is a political job to comply with international agreements. It may take another 100 years to conve
Re:Normal Science (Score:3, Interesting)
IUTBAFR (I Used to be a Fusion Researcher), and frankly, I never felt it was even close to the worst job in science. But I always worried about becoming a Richard Post. You see, fusion research is full of old-timers who've been working on it since Project Sherwood days, who have always been thinking "just a few more years and we'll have it". I suppose it's kind of like being a Red Sox fan. When they started work on Fusion for Peace in the 50's, it was 20-30 years away. When I
Prison Rape Researcher (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Prison Rape Researcher (Score:5, Funny)
Brilliant.. (Score:2, Insightful)
Not that GNAA crapflood shit.
Bravo, my friend, maybe you will start the comeback of old-school trolls.
Re:Prison Rape Researcher (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Prison Rape Researcher (Score:2, Informative)
A bright light is about to be shone on an almost unseen social problem: prison rape. On Sept. 4, President Bush signed the Prison Rape Elimination Act, which provides for an annual Department of Justice review on the rate and effects of prison rape. Why should you care?...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,97392,00.html [foxnews.com]
Re:Prison Rape Researcher (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Prison Rape Researcher (Score:3, Insightful)
Ie. He's a racist trying to appeal to the educated masses.
Prisoners are not, and will never beb tolerant members of our society. Even if we can eliminate racism from our communities, we will never be able to do so from our prisons.
Ok Sigmund Freud, how many years of studying the physchology of the incarcerated did it take you to come to this conclusion? Or did you managed to get al
Worst job in science... (Score:5, Funny)
My sister had the worst job in science... (Score:5, Funny)
And she's such a princess.. I've seen her freak out after getting a little cat food on her hand.
Catshit. I can top that. (Score:5, Interesting)
I was in AP Chemistry at the time, and I had a friend whose mother worked at Clorox. I volunteered to work there as part of a work study program for credit.
Of course, the only way to test and improve kitty litter is to test it with actual kitty byproducts. Both solid and liquid. I can fondly remember the days of placing stir bars in liters of cat urine to mix them up, then pipette-ing samples to coat the litter.
And, of course, there was only one way to test its effectiveness--lean in and take a hearty whiff. Yes, of kitty poo, as well. The labs' job was to come up with combinations of surfactactants and clays that would, ideally, eliminate the smell altogether, or at least replace it with a pleasant smell. We even had "a professional nose" who would come in and sniff the samples, assigning each sample with descriptions like "kiwi" or "slight fruity scent".
To be quite honest, however, it was pretty fascinating. Not smelling cat feces, of course. But when you think about it, it's one of the few products that must satisfy the sensitivities of two species, including the sense of smell, as well as the cat's sense of touch. It must absorb odor as well as liquid; clump, and surround the kitty waste; and not disintegrate into too mush dust. Oh, and it also has to be biodegradable.
I was sold.
I signed up for a (paid) internship during the summer and made big money. And I always washed my hands before dinner.
#10 is postdoc? (Score:5, Informative)
1. Lack of representation. Let's face it, no matter how much lab chiefs (a.k.a. principal investigators, or P.I.s) try to spin the postdoc experience as "training", in reality postdocs are the _labor_ force that gets the actual bench work done. For other young professionals at equivalent level of training and education, postdocs are woefully compensated for their time and effort (although this has slightly improved recently due to increases in NIH fellowship level guidelines). For instance, M.D. fellows in biology research labs get paid significantly more than their Ph.D. counterparts for doing the same work in the lab.
2. Lack of job prospects and career counseling: postdocs are encouraged to spend time in lab to work, work, work. The "goal" is to find faculty positions at research institutions. People with other career goals (teaching positions at primarily undergrad institutions, industry, sales and management) are looked down upon. But in reality, there are hardly any academic positions available for the number of postdocs on the job market any given year. The mentality of the scientific field needs to change greatly to reflect the realities of the job market.
3. Do we reallly *NEED* all these P.I.s? I believe it is high time to reevaluate the P.I. postdoc grad student hierachy. In reality, most of the labor work in labs could be served much more efficiently if senior Ph.D. level scientists held non-tenure track positions as perrmanent staff instead of temporary postdocs. From talking with friends in the scientific field in various institutions around the U.S., some universities appear to be cautiously moving towards this trend. However, I feel that there needs to be a major momentum shift in this direction. The reality is, we don't NEED that many P.I.s with independent research projects running, and there is an overabundance of postdocs with graduate schools churning out more and more each year (grad students are another source of lab labor and grad school administrators are under constant pressure to recruit and support more and more students for the faculty to explo^H^H^H^H^H train). Research universities should realize that permanent staff scientists will work more efficiently in familiar surroundings and colleagues, and without the pressure of having to look for jobs in 3-4 years in an increasingly tight job market.
4. No clear definition of the mentor-postdoc relationship: basically, your mentor makes or breaks your career. About the only thing you can make complaints on your mentor is sexual harassment. In all other regards of your postdoc training, you are essentially at your P.I.'s mercy. If you have a personality clash with him/her, they can screw you big time. If you have a personality clash with someone else in the lab and they get along better with the P.I., you can get screwed big time. If your experimental results , even if they are indisputably correct, do not jive with their pet theories, they can decide not to publish your work, and you get screwed big time. Heck, they can turn out to be simply assholes, and you are screwed big time. The bottom line is, they answer to no one but their grant reviewers, who are not particularly concerned with postdoc welfare. While most departments have scientific advisory boards and undergo yearly reviews, those reviews are scientitfic in nature and do not really address personnel issues. It is my understanding in most professional fields (law, medicine, etc.) there are standards of behavior that are upheld by professional organizations (state bar, medical review board, etc.). There is no such accountability with regards to personnel, especially postdocs, in science.
blah, too tired to rant now.
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-Sean
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I would have to agree with no. 16... (Score:5, Insightful)
Maybe one day someone will wake up and let us use more than one of the 11 existing viable cell lines. I hope so; I wouldn't want to get my Ph.D. to find that I won't be doing anything with it.
Grad School! (Score:2)
postdoc! (Score:5, Interesting)
my personal worst job was a during a wonderful "research project" involving a lake. we needed to install some "anchors" at the bottom of the lake (metal sign posts with chains attached to them). The lake, actually was a recharge basin [ocwd.com] (the one pictured there), which was routinely drained and cleaned. First cautionary sign: Although they allow fishing, they allow no bodily contact, because the water is essentially treated wastewater, mixed with whatever surface runoff they can gather. They wouldn't let us dive in the water, for fear of our health.
So they drained the lake one week, and as such things go, they did NOT remove the fish. So now we have a "dry" lake with hundreds of dead fish at the bottom. And by dry, I mean a 2 foot thick layer of muck (and where do all the toxins in a slowly draining body of water go? that's right, down into the mud). So I have to walk down the side of the lake and along the lake bottom, through the fishes (which were somewhat plowed under by the earth movers), dragging a chain. Said chain had a hook attached to it with some bailing wire.
Luckily, it was a nice bright, warm southern california day (and the fish had had almost a week to really get nice and ripe). Several times my boots would get stuck in the mud from the suction and my feet would almost come out of them as I tried to extricate myself. Eventually I get to the spot and start reeling in the chain. When I get to the end of the, by now quite dirty, chain I brilliantly scratched my hand on the bailing wire. Wasn't too deep, but it did draw blood.
Just stood there for a while, thinking "well, that's it. i'm going to lose my arm, now. I wonder how long it takes for gangrene to really set in?" luckily a tetanus shot prevented anything major from happening.
Re:postdoc! (Score:5, Funny)
Hmm.... (Score:5, Funny)
On top of that they were genetically engineering the poor mice to have low energy levels and small genitals, forever making them the fat and unattractive ones (the mice).
Re:Hmm.... (Score:3, Funny)
Now all we need to do is the genetic opposite, package it in a pill, and sell it during late night infomercials.
"The Penigizer will not only make your manhood larger, it will energize you! And if you call within the next 10 minutes we'll include the handy-stich portable sewing machine!"
The worst of the worst (Score:2)
From the worst hall of fame. [popsci.com]
Now who would even think of doing such things????
Crap Blender (Score:2, Interesting)
Mengele's assistant (Score:5, Informative)
It involved a lot more than autopsies on the people experimented on. I think that the two worst parts of his job were
1: Selecting Jews with physical deformities, having them killed and then boiling off the meat from their bones so that their skeletons could be put into a museum to prove Ayrian superiority - all the while arranging that the emprisoned didn't eat the stew.
2: Doing the autopsies on the remains of the Zonderkommando that rebelled and who were taken into the woods and flamethrowered to death.
Worst Job in MEdical Science (Score:3, Funny)
Beheading rats (Score:3, Interesting)
We got to chatting about bad jobs at work a few years ago. There were some doozies (orderly at an asylum, cleaning out cement trucks), but the most memorable was beheading rats.
One of my coworkers, when he was in college, worker for a research project in the biology department (I believe that was the department). They were doing research on rats. I'm a bit fuzzy on the details, but I seem to recall that it involved cutting part of some organ out, exposing them to potential carcinogens, waiting a while for the organ to regrow, then examining the organ for cancer.
The highlight was killing the rats for the final examination. Apparently there was a little rat guillotine. My coworkers said that the first few rats were easy, but after that the rats started smelling the blood and would panic.
They left one off (Score:5, Interesting)
Sorta falls under Post-Doc but not really.
Why Medical Resident you ask?
If you are thinking of becoming a doctor and can imagine yourself doing something else, do it. Frankly the lifestyle sucks for the 10 years until you finish med school + residency and for many specialties it still blows once you are done. I have enormous respect for doctors because they've earned every penny they make.
Human rights data coding (Score:5, Insightful)
I think one of the worst jobs in science might be the people who have to code data for large scale human rights projects such as the on going work at the Sierra Leone Truth and Reconcilliation commission. Imagine that it's just like the prison rape researcher job, only not only are you constantly reading about rape, you also are faces with murder, child rape, mutilations, amputations, child soldiers, dissapearance, theft and torture (very very creative torture).
People who work on these projects enter a state where they become strongly sympathetic to what they are reading and begin to exhibit symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder.
That's assuming there are no photographic records to review (which is usually kept as far away from coders as possible).
Although helping to expose the truth about attrocities is rewarding, it's not a very good job.
Bad Job Icons on Resumes (Score:3, Funny)
Condom Taster (Score:3, Funny)
I used to work in the MIS department of London International Group (now Seaton Scholl) who make all sorts of rubber products, including Durex condoms.
It was one MAN's job to taste the flavoured condoms from the production lines every 30 minutes.
He seemed a bit worried that a 2:1 from Cambridge in Biology only got him this far. Still, you have to laugh.
Give'em what they deserve (Score:3, Insightful)
Yeah, those pot pushers and tax evaders had it coming. Give'em what they deserve. </sarcasm>
BTW, someone recently had an "insightful" comment about the eye-for-an-eye reasonable punishment as described in the bible. Doesn't the prison system violate this idea of proportionality?
Re:this in? (Score:3, Informative)
The really worst one (Score:3)
"England's Student Magazine [studentmagazine.com] [Note: site is dead] has a article each week telling students about different jobs, so that readers can get an idea about what different jobs are like. The most recently has to be in the running for the Worst Job Ever award. [Article #213] Zoo worker Mohd. Binatang bin Goncang of Singagore certainly wins the "Worst Job in Singapore", for his job as a Zoo Sperm Bank worker. The Wildlife Reserves Singapore (WRS), which runs the Singapore Z [zoo.com.sg]
Re:The really worst one (Score:3, Informative)
Mohd. Binatang bin Goncang
This story is a fake. The name translates literally to: Mohammed Animal son of Masturbate.
Re:lab rat (Score:3, Interesting)
A funny story from those days: We had her sac (a common term used in animal research, short for sacrifice) a rabbit for us to eat (I worked in a nearby lab and we had an extra one that we would have had to kill anyway.) A few y