The Bug by Ellen Ullman 1547
Never Rock Fila writes "On the front page of tomorrow's New York Times Book Review, a slightly breathless but overdue enthusiastic review of Ellen Ullman's new novel, The Bug. The review acknowledges that 'Ullman has already established herself as an indispensable voice out of the world of technology' -- if you haven't read her first book, a memoir, Close to the Machine, read that too -- and it's nice to see a mainstream publication like the Times, the gold standard of book reviews as I understand it, giving such prominent and positive attention to a novel by a former 'software engineer' that's all about getting inside the mind of a programmer, even concluding 'If more contemporary novels delivered news this relevant and wise they'd have to stop declaring the death of the novel.' The reviewer, one Benjamin Anastas, has the chops to develop a sustained comparison to Mary Shelley, to legitimately place the 1984 computer programmers at the center of the novel among 'all the best characters in fiction,' and to declare the book 'thrilling and intellectually fearless.'"
Re:I loved her show on FOX (Score:4, Funny)
Re:I loved her show on FOX (Score:1, Offtopic)
Disgusting!
Wow. (Score:5, Funny)
Either us geeks are buying more books, or the mainstream population is getting brighter. Somehow, I think it's the former. American Idol is still on television.
Re:Wow. (Score:5, Insightful)
cryptonomicon wasn't any more 'intelligent' than other books, it just had its basis in a geekfriendly subject
the majority of novelists do a substanial amount of research about the state of their subject in real life. Writer's spend a decent amount of time in libraries.
I dont find Farscape to be all that more entertaining than American Idol. Its called personal preference, taste.
The Slashdot crowd really reminds me of the punkish segment of population. Rebel and Yell. The system sucks, damn the system, damn the man, damn the sheep. Lets all dye our hair green. In the end, you aren't much different. You only seem different if you focus soley on those areas where you do differ so much.
Maybe the technocratic elitist themes in Cryptonomicon are true....
Re:Wow. (Score:1)
Re:Wow. (Score:1, Funny)
American Juniors, however, has taken its place.
Posted anonymously for obvious reasons.
Re:Wow. (Score:2)
please.
i've read both close to the machine and cryptonbloodywhateveritwascalled. ullman's book was well written and insightful. stephenson's book would be close to the worst book i've ever finished. i cannot imagine why you would categorise the two together, unless it's because of this 'us geeks' nonsense.
'us geeks' indeed - care to step out side an urge to run with a pack and think for yourself for a minute?
Re:Wow. (Score:2)
Ullman's Programming the Post-Human (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Ullman's Programming the Post-Human (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Ullman's Programming the Post-Human (Score:1)
Ellen, now I need *you* to defend *my* honor!
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Re:In other words; you're a whore, but not the GOO (Score:1)
Ellen Ullman Stuff (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Ellen Ullman Stuff (Score:3, Interesting)
I loved the way she described it all... I was reliving my days back in the dorm, installing slackware for the first time. Highly recommended.
Re:Ellen Ullman Stuff (Score:2)
And don't you just love those pop-ups where "your" computer tells you what it wants you to do!
Re:Ellen Ullman Stuff: I dunno... (Score:2)
In "Closer to the Machine" she gets intimate with clients and co-workers during the project even.
Extremely unprofessional.
And really...yuck.
lemme introduce you to a few abstract concepts (Score:1)
Yeah, if someone bedded a coworker or client before a deadline, it would be worthy of censure. However I don't believe the narrator of "Close to the Machine" is Ms. Ullman herself.
a few abstract concepts: how about FACTS (Score:3, Informative)
You said: lemme introduce you to a few abstract concepts like fiction or artistic license.I don't believe the narrator of "Close to the Machine" is Ms. Ullman herself.
in response to my comment that in "Closer to the Machine" she gets intimate with clients and co-workers during the project even
Mr. Jpeg: did you read it? Closer to the Machine is a MEMOIR.
From the spamazon Editorial Review of Closer to the Machine by Cliff Barney:
Re: a few abstract concepts: how about FACTS (Score:2)
I don't even know where to begin. Since when is it inhernetly unprofessional to maintain personal relationships with co-workers/clients? And since when is accurately recalling your life, even its mistakes, censure worthy? (It is, after all, a MEMOIR, as you kindly pointed out.) And why is it your place to judge her for it?
Re: a few abstract concepts: how about FACTS (Score:2)
Since when is it inhernetly unprofessional to maintain personal relationships with co-workers/clients?
Ever since Potiphar's wife came on to Joseph, and Joseph had to say "thanks, but no thanks" and suffer the consequencs. It's not OK. You don't screw the crew. End of story. It's not good programming, and it's simply not professional.
A memory leak is a failure to deallocate memory causing the program to consume ever more system resources.
Which causes transient failures, typically at diffe
Re: a few abstract concepts: how about FACTS (Score:1)
Professionalism is being able to stay focussed on business issues, while being able to put personal issues to one side for the duration of your work. It has nothing to do with who you see when you go home at the end of the day, when you should then put business issues to one side.
If you can't keep the two separate (and be seen to do so by your colleagues), then you're not being professional. But equally, if your c
Re: a few abstract concepts: how about FACTS (Score:2)
Besides being completely unprofessional, is totally and completely morally wrong to initiate and maintain sexual relationships with co-workers and clients. And we can add subordinates, contractors, direct supervisors, professional colleagues, students (undergraduate, graduate and postdoctoral), faculty and administration to that list. Even where the personal relationship pre-dates the professional relationship, there are serious moral, social and professional issues -- issues that simply don't exist
Re: a few abstract concepts: how about FACTS (Score:2)
In other words, you believe it's unprofessional because you believe it's immoral. You may as well have put this out on the table to begin with, rather than shamefully trying to hide your convictions behind vague claims.
Re: a few abstract concepts: how about FACTS (Score:1)
I have no doubt that you'll correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall that the narrator did not sleep with her subordinate (the business suit guy)on the project. She spoke of the intense sexual tension and attributed it to a result of long hours working closely on a project. The narrator and the GUI guy with the dog developed another common dynamic.
I don't remember the narrator bedding any of the clients on that project. I remember the narrator relaying a few anecdotes, perhaps about the p
Solution to the NYT registration thing... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Solution to the NYT registration thing... (Score:5, Insightful)
If Slashdot starts using the Google partner tag, then NYT and Google will evntually shut it off - checking referers, etc.
Re:Solution to the NYT registration thing... (Score:2, Funny)
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Exactly. They give us the opportunity to read one of the world's largest daily newspapers for free but sure, that's not enough. Bastards want to know our e-mail address. Outrageous. I bet they run Windows as well. They should burn in hell. Twice.
On a more serious note, I happily provided them with my e-mail address, so I could get the hea
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Word is it got squashed (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:Word is it got squashed (Score:2)
Imagine a white-hat hacker and a
Re:Word is it got squashed (Score:2)
1) hero-hacker uses something elegant (but completely cryptic to an average viewer) to block off the DDoS attack on him in a few moments (and says 'phew')
2) hero-hacker disables all attackers one by one (while conveniently allowing the director to show one disappointed face after another)
I think the first one could be compared with a carpet bombing (or hunting rabbits with nukes...), the other would be the equivalent of picking off the enemies one b
Golden standard? (Score:5, Funny)
I thought Oprah's book club was?
Re:Golden standard? (Score:1)
> I thought Oprah's book club was?
It's a close contest.
read it, liked it (Score:4, Insightful)
CSCI? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:CSCI? (Score:1)
The Bug Available on e-Book (Score:3, Informative)
Strange review (Score:5, Funny)
I've read the review, it suck. Here it is
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Thanks for review NYTimes. Here's one book I won't buy : it's all about internet junk !
Re:Strange review (Score:1, Informative)
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Enjoy.
B & N instead (Score:5, Informative)
The Bug [barnesandnoble.com]
Close to the Machine [barnesandnoble.com]
Re:B & N instead (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:B & N instead (Score:3, Insightful)
I don't.
If you want to make a difference, write your congressperson
I do. Hillary Clinton doesn't write back to any of her constituents who I've spoken to.
be politically active
I am.
join a movement
I have.
a lot more effective than this kneejerk boycott crap
It's hardly kneejerk and every little bit helps.
Re:B & N instead (Score:2)
OK, that's a little unfair. And I have to applaud your social comittment. But I just don't see refusal to pay for software as a viable political strategy. It's simply impractical for 99% of all computer users.
But! you say. "Free" software is making big inroads against unfree software! Yes, and that's because companies like IBM, Borland, SGI, and Sun are pushing it. Although they prefer to call it "Open Source". They like it because its a b
Re:B & N instead (Score:1)
C'mon, you've got two others, just in Congress!
As for boycotting Amazon--if you want to do that, has your organization informed Amazon, directed links to their competition, and been as public as they can about it?
If not, it's not a boycott. It's just "voting with your dollars." And rather ineffectual at that.
Re:B & N instead (Score:1)
Re:B & N instead (Score:2)
I make a lot of purchases from bn.com and the only circumstance in which I've run into inventory problems has been with used books listed for offline used book stores. The two times I've contacted customer service they were courteous and competent.
BN also actually honors the allowed contact methods you give them and don't have a privacy policy subject to change with no notice and applied retroactively, both of which are provisions o
Re:B & N instead (Score:1)
Stay Far Away from "Close to the Machine" (Score:1, Informative)
Benjamin Anastas (Score:2, Interesting)
the bug and the digital fortress (Score:2)
While it's preferable when females write intelligent things about the scene (vs. writing stupid things about the scene ala aimee deep), and are cast as intelligent females in fictional accounts of hacking (as in Digital Fortress [amazon.com]), or even as interesting characters in computer games (Lara Croft) "The Bug" is still a female writing about computers, rather than writing software , developing algorithms , modding hardware etc.
OTOH, any progress is good, and since progress in the area of "the image
Next... the Programmer TV Series... (Score:3, Interesting)
around it) that has influenced -lots- of
peoples' lives has had TV series about itself.
We've had lots of medicos... from "Ben Casey"
& maybe some before him...
We've had lawyers... from "Perry Mason" &
We've had police from The "Untouchables"...
We've even had teachers & schools (recently
"Boston Public" - which got -cut- in Australia,
soon after a sequence on the use of "Nigger"
(we're not racist down here, we just don't
want to give our people anything too controvertial
to think about...)
Someday (if/when programmers become influential
again (remember when we were -mostly- physicists,
mayhematicians or electronics engineers?),
we might see some TV series on programmers.
Would anybody like to brainstorm up some story-
lines for "The Programmers" that might fit into
a 30-minute slot, each week?
storylines for... the Programmer TV Series (Score:2)
Isn't that what Dilbert [dilbert.com] is for?
Re:Next... the Programmer TV Series... (Score:4, Interesting)
All the professions that have spawned TV-series of their own are essentially social professions: police, doctors, investigators, lawyers, artists, teachers, reporters, etc. The core of the working-time (as seen in TV) in these cases has to do with interacting with people.
Even the exceptions that have more "technical meat" (CSI and the like) tend to be off-shoots of the typical case. Like a secondary character in a novel that becomes a favorite, but would normally not stand by itself.
This is not about who "influences society". It's about emotions. Emotions move plots more quickly and easily than ideas, and don't have to be explained too much. TV is about simple, approachable, uncomplicated emotions driving simple plots around emotions. The facts are not important unless emotionally charged, or sprinkled at least a little bit.
Face it, computer programming is not the most socially interesting profession. Certainly not the most emotionally charged for an outsider. It's logically, intellectually challenging, which means boring for someone looking for a sit-com instead of a documentary.
People connect to the pathologist's "determination", as he "earnestly" looks for evidence to "catch the evil bastard". They don't connect to a professional obsession for doing the job well. They might as well watch a mechanic work.
Of course, a TV series could be made around a computer programmer, as long as its thematic is about social interaction and not programming. It wouldn't be a show about programmers, though, just like "thirty something" was not a show about architects, and "Drew Carey" is not a show about HR coordinators. The profession will be an uninteresting prop, assumed to happen off the set.
Another choice would be to focus on the weirdness of the social interactions themselves are, as compared with the rest. But people don't want to watch that either, they want to connect to social interactions they're already familiar with, that they can empathize with. The excellent "Freaks and Geeks" was almost exclusively popular with... you guessed it, freaks and geeks. We all know where that one ended.
Re:Next... the Programmer TV Series... (Score:3, Interesting)
Yah! And I can see Scott Adams doing the writing for it.
There was a British series called "Attachments" that actually had some decent programmer content/activity, though it was dominated by dotcom management pratfalls and consequences that we've all seen in real life by now, so why make yourself sick watching it on TV.
What's more interesting is the "junkyard wars" format, with Robot Wars [robotwars.co.uk] and Robotica. And yet you don't get very good representation of the interesting part -- they're presented li
Re:Next... the Programmer TV Series... (Score:2)
Causing mayhem for a living? Now *that* sounds like a fun job!
You've Been Asleep at the Telly (Score:1)
This is why crime shows and police dramas are always standard. Plenty of odd and unusual behavior. Same with hospital shows. A stream of patients. Not too many prime time weekly series about life on farm in the middle of nowhere (Little House being the exception) or life in a senior citizens home. TV Series located in re
It in the NYT (Score:1)
It's a joke, folks. Calm down.
TWW
Too bad it's in the NYT (Score:3, Funny)
A Thought Some Might Expand Upon... (Score:1)
I am somewhat curious what some in the crowd deign the strengths a
Depressing as hell (Score:1)
Ethan Levin is a lot like me, living in the Bay Area as a programmer pushing forty, with an ex-girlfriend working for a nonprofit org, even down to some of the smaller mannerisms (Shudder). I'll stick to O'Reilly books in the future, they are much less unsettling
Book review on Kuro5hin.org (Score:2)
Once upon a time I read this book and posted a review on kuro5hin.org [kuro5hin.org]. It was a good book, and it's still on my shelf (meaning I haven't seen myself able to give it away or sell it yet). Keep an eye out for it at your local Half-Price books.
--Robert
P1 (Score:1)
Re:P1 (Score:1)
Yup. I read it in junior high and thought it was great. I found it in the library in college and reread it--unfortunately in between I had developed some literary sensibilities (not a lot, but a few) and didn't dig it quite as much. But if I could find a copy, I'd grab it and read it again.
Great Book (Score:4, Informative)
Let me put it this way: this book literally made me fear for my own sanity. Now, if that's not a good endorsement, I don't know what is.
I wonder if I could get it read by non-programmers (Score:2, Interesting)
Just in order to make them feel the psycological consequences of them changing their specs two weeks before commercial release...
Not the front page, sadly (Score:2)
lol what? (Score:1)