Antibody Food Spices 62
jargon writes "Flouride...antibiotics...looks like they now want to add antibodies to your food.
"Adding spices laced with antibodies to your cooking could help protect against food poisoning
bacteria, according to scientists.""
Welcome Back, Kotter! (Score:4, Funny)
I thought the previewing system was going to help prevent duplication?
In other words, this article was already posted at
Allergic to Eggs? (Score:1)
Apparently these people have failed to consider that nearly 20% of the population of the world is allergic to egg yolks. It's the second most common food allergy, next to diary.
Queen BBloop (Score:2, Informative)
Daniel
Antibodies in food (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Antibodies in food (Score:5, Informative)
Daniel
Re:Antibodies in food (Score:2)
portmanteau double bonus!! (Score:2)
It's dismal - it's abysmal - it's bismal!
I'll use it every day. To describe my coworkers.
Re:portmanteau double bonus!! (Score:2)
Bismal makes me think of my cow orkers, but for a different reason [pepto-bismol.com].
"Bismal" and "Oppinion" (Score:1)
Re:"Bismal" and "Oppinion" (Score:2)
Re:Antibodies in food (Score:4, Insightful)
Wouldn't it be better if we'd let those harmful agents infect our cells and let our body learn how to produce matching antibodies by itself?
Like, you know, the natural way.
Of course, IANAD but it make sense, IMHO.
Re:Antibodies in food (Score:2)
Of course, there are cases where the human body simply can't produce the proper immunity to the virus (or bacteria), whereby we would get help by getting the proper innocculation or antibiotics, etc.
Re:Antibodies in food (Score:2)
Wouldn't it be better if we'd let those harmful agents infect our cells and let our body learn how to produce matching antibodies by itself? Like, you know, the natural way.
Damned right! Just look how much healthier Europeans were back in the 14th century, with a nice dose of the Black Death to eliminate the weak. And look at the wonders that natural exposure to smallpox did for the native Americans!
Natural, shmatural; my kids are getting antibiotics, vaccines, antibodies (maybe, we'll see what the
Re:Antibodies in food (Score:1)
Damned right! Just look how much healthier Europeans were back in the 14th century, with a nice dose of the Black Death to eliminate the weak. And look at the wonders that natural exposure to smallpox did for the native Americans!
But then, why not rather concentrate on vaccine, which does train the body in defending itself without
Re:Antibodies in food (Score:2)
But then, why not rather concentrate on vaccine, which does train the body in defending itself without risking anything?
Two points: First, vaccine isn't, in fact, risk free, although the risk is *very* acceptable (and the development of the newer acellular vaccines lowers the risk even further). Second, the poster I was responding to advocated the "natural" way, which vaccines are not.
Not only your kids, but the bacteria in them as well. Not all bacteria die from the contact, and the stronger ones w
Re:Antibodies in food (Score:2)
When you compare the worst case with the best case there is a big difference. In the best case anti-biotics are used appropriately and judiciously and resistant bacteria take a lot longer to develop.
It also might be worth conside
Re:Antibodies in food (Score:2)
The "so what" is that we use antibiotics way too much.
Sure, but if we use them at all, resistant strains will eventually develop. Using them carefully is better than using them indiscriminately, but not using them at all (the "natural way") is just plain stupid.
And don't forget that the subject of the article was antibodies, not antibiotics -- completely different things.
For example, they might be more contagious than the bacteria that would have otherwise evolved.
Could be. I haven't heard of an
Re:Antibodies in food (Score:2)
Yeah, I know, just couldn't help but respond to your post which was on this topic.
Could be. I haven't heard of any that have done this, though. It would seem like there should be some evidence.
Neither have I. I would love to see some evidence one way or the other. I was just speculating on possible ways in which our use of antibiotics might leave us in a worse position than the "natural wa
Re:Antibodies in food (Score:1)
Now all we need... (Score:2, Funny)
Not neccessary to do this... (Score:3, Informative)
you are correct (Score:1)
Scientists-engineers, chemists, biologists, social scientists, economic scientists, are showing daily an amazing ability to keep proving some sets of human observations posted millenia ago in a book called "the bible". It's like -surprise-eating lots of fresh raw foods that haven't been dorked with by man in some fashion is basically good for you, and that it keeps you healthy. You can take it as "laws" pas
Re:you are correct (Score:1)
But what about our precious bodily fluids? (Score:5, Funny)
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Lord, Jack.
General Jack D. Ripper: You know when fluoridation first began?
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: I... no, no. I don't, Jack.
General Jack D. Ripper: Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.
Re:But what about our precious bodily fluids? (Score:2)
Daniel
Re:But what about our precious bodily fluids? (Score:2)
You and your conspiracy theories are stagnant. Everyone knows it's a terrorist plot! Just ask Bush.
Thank goodness for Bush's moral convictio
Sad (Score:1, Offtopic)
well... (Score:1, Offtopic)
Same criticism applies as to "cold pasteurization" (Score:4, Insightful)
This irradiation prevents fresh food like Potatoes, from sprouting. The potato is still alive. This kills it.
This irradiation also kills microbes within the food, or on its surface, that could cause it to go bad.
One of the criticisms of irradiating food is that the knowledge that the food will eventually be irradiated will cause those responsible for maintaining cleanliness in the preparation of the food to relax their standards.
And I believe the same criticism could be applied here.
The article that drew this to my attention talked, in detail, about how modern slaughterhouses work. Apparently a batch of meat gets tainted by E.coli when an intestine gets nicked, and fecal matter leaks out. Yuck.
I'd prefer my food to be safe to eat even if some high tech wonder failed, or that step was skipped.
Re:Same criticism applies as to "cold pasteurizati (Score:1)
Food crops are not tainted by being fertilized by manure, if that manure has been properly composted first.
It is my understanding that composting is not a step a lazy organic farmer would want to skip. It is my understanding that composted manure is much better fertilizer than raw sewage.
Re:Same criticism applies as to "cold pasteurizati (Score:2)
Re:Same criticism applies as to "cold pasteurizati (Score:2)
IANA Organic Farmer, so this is not an exhaustive list, but my understanding is that composting increases the value of manure in several ways.
[1] Fibrous or
SNL skit (Score:1)
Truth really is stranger then fiction
Side effects (Score:2)
I mean... I have a lot of family members that have to make sure to order "no MSG" at Chinese restaurants. Next time maybe we'll have to say: "No MSG please... and um.... hold off on the antibodies as well, they gave me bloat and a really aweful case of gas last time"
Re:Side effects (Score:2)
I was out with a friend at a Chinese restaurant and witnessed the following interaction between her and the waiter:
Friend: Could you please make sure not to use MSG in my food?
Waiter: Oh no! We don't use MSG *at all* in this restaurant.
Friend: Good, because I have a horrible reaction to it! If I have even a little, I'll get blinding migraine headaches and usually end up laying on the floor in convulsions. So, if you use it at all, I'd like to request that you give the pans and utensils and extra washin
Re:Side effects (Score:2)
It is both in some packaged ingredients and also added as flavoring to the food. Asking for "no MSG" will reduce it... but you'll probably still get some from the packaged stuff.
That being said... something you find it even in packaged food at home. I've seen it sneak into my larder along with local food products at times.
Re:Side effects (Score:2)
Not only that, it's sprayed on many crops as a growth enhancer.
Re:Side effects (Score:2)
They'd better not! (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:They'd better not! (Score:2)
Re:They'd better not! (Score:4, Insightful)
From DICTIONARY.com [reference.com]
MUCH DIFFERENT than an Antibiotic [reference.com] for the little informed:
now... next time RTFA
Re:They'd better not! (Score:1)
antibiotics, or anything like them
That included antibodies in my mind, but we all think differently. Basically, If my body didn't make it, I don't want it. I'm really picky about what goes into me. I don't think we're getting full disclosure on what happens to all this processed food. Thus why I don't eat processed food in general. It's harder finding organic things and 3x as costly, not to mention time consuming preparing them. The years I'm gaining by taking care of myself
Re:They'd better not! (Score:2)
So how do you eat food then, exactly?
Re:They'd better not! (Score:2)
Maybe he's an autocannibal?
Still, I'd be worried that this would be a little like perpetual motion. I expect autocannibals just keep getting smaller, no matter how perfectly they recycle all their waste products, until they disappear.
Re:They'd better not! (Score:2)
You've obviously never worked in a food processing plant, then. I put myself through college working for various food processing plants. It wouldn't even gross me out to lick the floor of those plants; they are kept that clean; because it's a food plant, all cleaners and sanitizers have to be non-toxic. Your keyboard probably has a more dangerous culture of bacteria and other harmful substances living on it.
I person
New products? (Score:1)
The Spice (Score:1)
Oh yeah. (Score:1)
-uso.
1984!!!
just don't cook it (Score:2)
Food safety solution: Glue the chicken rectums (Score:1)
They were among the first companies to develop cyanoacrylate superglue, but they got scooped, somehow. And since everybody else is making profit from their superglue now, they were thinking very hard how to get a new patented use for superglue. So they came up with a pretty good idea - and have it patented, too - that they would dip-glue the behind hole of slaughtered poultry, so that the "inte
Helping people...HA (Score:1)