
To Boldly Paint What No Man Has Painted Before 75
David Mazzotta writes "It's not just Sci-Fi authors who have had influence on space technologies. Artist Chesley Bonestell produced beautiful space-art that inspiried people from Sagan to Heinlein."
Nice Art (Score:1, Funny)
Inspirations (Score:3, Insightful)
Can you buy these from somewhere? (Score:3)
Re:Can you buy these from somewhere? (Score:4, Informative)
Check the usual sources for ... (Score:2)
abebooks (Score:2)
some more links (Score:3, Informative)
dead astronaut (Score:4, Interesting)
this one [demon.co.uk] has a bunch of scans (pretzel_logic)
Wow, interesting, the image of astronauts burying their dead comrade on Mars. Pretty contoversial stuff, it must have caused a real storm when that picture got published. Anybody know anything about that picture? Give the man his due for realism. Can anybody imagine NASA producing a series of artistic impressions these days including a burial scene?
I suppose it follows in the great romantic tradition of the 'fallen hero' but respect to the man for telling the possible negative side of the story as well as the positive.
Re:some more links (Score:2)
Re:Great new business-model? (Score:1)
Is He The Guy Who... (Score:3, Funny)
If so, this guy is good! Bravo, take a bow !!
Britisher? (Score:1)
Oh dear me.
Re:Britisher? (Score:2, Interesting)
"Hande Hoch! For you Britisher, ze vor is over."
This guy's art and why I hate being an artist. (Score:5, Interesting)
Unfortunately, this sort of art wouldn't fly in the "serious" art world. Not only is it tied to "main-stream" books and publications on space, but also to the sub-culture of Science Fiction genre writing. Ironically enough, the college that I attend looks down upon any person who does Genre Fiction. But I digress too much.
Favorite Rant: The Art World today, is confused. It is full of artists, critics, curators and gallery managers who scrabble after the false god of "Art Has A Message". Sure it does. But is the artist required to draw a sodding road map?!? I know my professors will want me to do so for my senior show.
Like I said before. Love the work! It's beautiful, expansive (both physically and temporally), and (dare I say?!? [dare! dare!]) pure(?). Would that artists of his calibre were more accepted in both the main-stream as forward thinking and artists-for-everyone. And in the art world as the master-artists they are, if only the art world could drop the pretentious BS that they have swallowed with their chocolate-covered strawberries and red wine at every art opening.
Re:This guy's art and why I hate being an artist. (Score:1, Informative)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/104437
Re:This guy's art and why I hate being an artist. (Score:5, Insightful)
I think it reflects badly on the academic art world, not art in general, that this man's work cannot be taken seriously. His work was appreciated by millions and influenced the vision of the universe of entire generations.
Isn't that pretty much the definition of great art?
There's a distinct snobbery at work here, but in the end who really cares - his work did what it set out to do.
Re:This guy's art and why I hate being an artist. (Score:1)
www.theartkolective.com/theartistjames
Re:This guy's art and why I hate being an artist. (Score:1)
www.artkolective.com/theartistjames
Re:This guy's art and why I hate being an artist. (Score:2)
Worked for Dr. Frankenfurter...
Re:This guy's art and why I hate being an artist. (Score:3, Informative)
The Chesley awards are presented each year at the World Science Fiction Convention [worldcon.org], which this year (later this month, in fact) is in San Jose [conjose.org].
The convention has an extensive art show, with many artists exhibiting their work [conjose.org].
There is even a 'real-world' gallery [novaspace.com] devoted to space art.
So, although the 'serious' art world looks down on this type of art, there are venues, and a market, for this work.
Re:This guy's art and why I hate being an artist. (Score:2)
I don't exactly agree with it, however. I feel the purest form is art for the love of art - not art with an agenda. And clearly, this artist paints because he loves to see his ideas come to life.
I've always thought that the greatest work is not the one worth the most money, or that receives the best criticism - but the one that is viewed by others, and inspires them to want to create. I have notebooks full of sketches of space ships and airplanes and wot inspired by paintings like these.
Re:This guy's art and why I hate being an artist. (Score:1)
Red Dwarf (Score:2, Funny)
The Art (Score:1)
The man and his work were awesome... (Score:1)
most refreshing! (Score:1)
I esp like the attention to detail. Most of the space art tends to be macro oriented, so you have classy supernovas and stuff like that, but it takes vision an ingenuity to plan reflections on solar panels!
Esp commendable is saturn from TITAN, the lighting is great and the attention to shadows is real igneous. Hopefully our sci-fi movie ppl also take a vue adn start giving more attention to small details rather than grandoise.
Ideas spawned by the Collier's article... (Score:1)
And leave us not forget... (Score:2, Interesting)
Clearly, the best of all possible tributes.
Great work (Score:2, Informative)
Check out V. DiFate's book (Score:1)
SUBSCRIBE TO THIS MAGAZINE! (Score:2, Offtopic)
Artist in downtown SFO (Score:2)
He uses a few innovative techniques to create awesome astronomical scenes using spray paint, in under just about 3-5 minutes. It's really great to watch, but the paintings are a little costly, about $25-$35.
The thing is, you can watch him paint it for you, and go on and buy it. If anybody's from in and around SFO, you can find him at Fisherman's Wharf, usually on Fri and Sat evenings. Neat stuff!
Re:Artist in downtown SFO (Score:1)
As a student, yes, $25 is significantly high for me, and I really do feel that he could be charging much higher for his talent.
And yes, I do concur with you that artists are being underpaid, but unfortunately a large chunk of the ones who are paid so much do not deserve, esp. not in areas like fashion (la FTV stuff), while there are others in other segments like painting and sculpting who are underpaid. Please note that not once did I mention anything that artists must not make anything, or anything along those lines.
Re:Artist in downtown SFO (Score:1)
Man Conquers Space (Score:1)
Heinlein fans... (Score:1)
I wondered for years what "bonestelled" meant, until I found out about Chesley Bonestell.
Paint THIS (Score:1, Troll)
Anyone know the name? (Score:2)
The amazing thing is that he was nearly blind, and yet his paintings were more accurate than anyone had a right to be (we now know that some of his ideas were off, but suprisingly few, and much of his work remains in the territory of good guess, but we don't know).
Multiple techniques (Score:2)
One thing that used to puzzle me about Bonestell's works was that some parts appeared hand-painted, and other parts looked like photographs of actual rocks and mountains. IOW, there seemed to be an inconsistency from portion to portion of a given work.
I later found out that Bonestell used a combination of techniques. He used to build clay and wood models using his motion picture experience and materials, and photograph them to study and experiment with. These photographs often made it into parts of his space art.
I remember trying to duplicate the realism of some of his works as a teenager, never satisfied with the results. It seems I was trying to do the impossible: compete with photographs of clay models.
There is one Bonestell painting of the Great Wall (IIRC) on the moon. There is one cliff face there that is almost certainly a photograph in retrospect, and I would bust my butt trying to reproduce that same photo-realistic look in color pencils, pastels, and acrylics; but could not. When I found out about the photos, I screamed in my head "No F*cken Wonder!" (it was late and I didn't want to wake anybody).
BTW, some of my space art can be previewed at:
http://geocities.com/astroviews/
Re:Multiple techniques (Score:2)
Ron Miller is up for a Hugo (Score:1)
Plug: Earlier this year he was awarded a Book of the Year award for his fantasy novel (which my company does publish) BRONWYN: PALACES & PRISONS [timberwolfpress.com].
- Patrick Seaman
Timberwolf Press
Looks a bit like Bryce work (Score:2)
Tomorrowlan (Score:1)
There have been a couple of references about the recently deceased Ward Kimball (had the pleasure of meeting him 10 years ago) helping with the Collier's series on space travel. It would seem that the flow went both ways.