Scotland: Aliens' Official Favorite Destination 610
scubacuda writes: "This Reuters article says that Scotland has the highest concentration of UFO sightings--300 per year, the most per square kilometer and per head of population of anywhere in the world. That means 0.004 UFOs for every square kilometer of Scotland -- a rate four times as high as in France or Italy, earth's other UFO hotspots. (In comparison, only 2,000 UFOs are spotted every year in the United States represent, making just 0.0002 sightings per square kilometer. Bonnybridge--30 miles west of Edinburgh--seems to be the Scotland equivalent of Roswell, New Mexico). UFO nuts explain it in terms of aliens being attracted to remote areas. But can anyone say *autosuggestion*?"
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Funny what people believe, isn't it?
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My favorite part so far:
During the 50's, aliens said "nuclear war is bad". During the 80's, "AIDS" is bad. Great - thanks, Mr. Alien. Why couldn't you have fucking told us in the 1970's that AIDS was bad - when we could have done something about it?
Slightly paraphrased, but just as effective...! (Score:2)
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Whose alien is he quoting? I don't remember reading anything about alien AIDS warnings. Besides, you can paint any picture you want if you find enough quotes to filter as desired.
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Like what? Convinced the Hippies not to have "free love"? Or perhaps convinced the country that handing out condoms was a good idea?
What would have been really helpful is if someone had come to earth and warned us that all our idiotic perversions could cause plagues, sickness and death.
You know, the interesting thing about Judaism and Christianity is that even if you don't believe any of the "God" stuff the whole bible makes a lot of sense from a societal health point of view.
All of these ideas were first recorded in the Jewish Torah:
>Wash with running water
>Bath at least once a week, especially women after a menstrual cycle.
>Don't eat shellfish or pork (Revoked in the Christian new testament. Many believe this was in Mosaic law for health reasons.)
>Adultery and Fornication (premarital sex) forbidden. (Prevents STDs, Illegitimate children)
>Establishment of a first-cousin rule for prevention of inbreeding
Something to think about.
Re:A book recommendation for the submitter: (Score:2, Interesting)
Carl Sagan's point (and well made) is that the message from "aliens" changes with the times. In the 50's "nukes bad", in the 80's "AIDS bad", these days the message is probably "genetic mutation bad".
It seems that aliens can only tell us things that we already have figured out are bad - instead of telling us this in a clear message well before its a problem. (Like a broadcast in the 1970's from Vega saying "CFCs...bad...". Something like that.
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Sagan is not a very good debunker of this subject. For example, he says things in that book like, "if they are so advanced, why is their medical equipment so thick and bulky?"
That alone is not enough to dismiss equipment. Perhaps it contains 100,000 different medical functions in it. If it is equal in bulkiness, but does 99,000 more things then our current stuff, that is hardly primitive. IOW, he is being superficial. (I am not necessarily saying that the evidence for alien medical equipment is strong, I am only saying that his debunking is sloppy.)
Further, extreme claims do indeed require extreme evidence. However, most rational "fans" of the field say that they simply think that it deserves more study and respect. Deserving more study is NOT the same as a "fantastic claim". Deserving investigation status has a much lower threshold than conclusions (such as ET or whatever). The "extreme claims" mantra has been abused too much.
About 200 years ago, rank and file scientists rejected the notion that "rocks fall from the sky". They called "falling rock" witnesses superstitious, drunk, etc. IOW, the rank and file have been wrong about similar things. Even a 0.0001 chance that it may be happening again is important enough to look into.
The evidence from perfectly sober, professional people like pilots and police officers is enough witness power to convict a million OJ's for a million years. Yet skeptics instantly reject it as "media-induced hallucinations". Oddly enough, the more knowledgeable ufo skeptics seem to think that most criminal witness testimony is bogus for similar reasons. Let them all of jail!
Even if it was "media-induced hallucinations", shouldn't that phenomena itself be closely looked into? Letting pilots and cops hallucinate without finding out why is not a good thing. Either way you look at it, the mystery is far from solved.
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Yes - and that's what SETI, and other projects, are doing. If, in fifty years' time, aliens do land on the White House lawn and say that, after a hundred years of surreptitious medical trials, they've deemed us worthy to enter the Federation - great!
If someone finds an alien spaceship, and it's beyond reasonable doubt that it's from elsewhere - let's say, it contains some of the elements from the "island of stability" in the periodic table that we haven't managed to manufacture yet - then yes, I'd be prepared to accept it. But there's just no evidence for it!
"The evidence from perfectly sober, professional people like pilots and police officers is enough witness power to convict a million OJ's for a million years. Yet skeptics instantly reject it as "media-induced hallucinations". Oddly enough, the more knowledgeable ufo skeptics seem to think that most criminal witness testimony is bogus for similar reasons. Let them all of jail!"
Uh... no. You're presenting an either/or argument where none exists. On something like the OJ chase, which is being covered by news helicopters in close-up, seen by millions and confirmed by the police, I'm fairly sure that happened.
A fleeing suspect confirmed by two policemen - or even one? Well, that's up to the jury to decide whether the case is beyond "reasonable doubt" or not.
An alien spacecraft landing in the middle of nowhere, confirmed by one person? Sure, it'd be great if it were true, but don't expect me to believe it without corroboration.
There are half a dozen or so UFO reports that do bear looking into, usually because of the number of people that have seen them. The evidence is always inconclusive - and so, I believe that the case for ETs on Earth is well within "reasonable doubt".
If something a little more concrete comes up, though, I'd be quite happy to change my mind. As of yet, though, it hasn't.
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Oh Jebus, not Roswell again. Look. The debris found in the Roswell "Incident" was the remains of a string of balloons launched as part of Project Mogul, which was an attempt to detect Soviet atomic bomb tests.
There's a lovely Straight Dope article [straightdope.com] about it.
And for the love of god, why the hell won't our government even acknowledge Area 51?
Um, they do acknowledge it. They just don't tell us what goes on there because, well, it's secret. You don't expect them to give out press releases like, "Today at Groom Lake, the Air Force made several test flights of an airplane which is nearly invisible on radar."
There's another Straight Dope article [straightdope.com] about Area 51 too.
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Now don't get me wrong -- I agree that *serious* study of the issue is warranted, and certainly that is going on in a few places. However it is a basic feature of the scientific process that if a reasonable claim is continually made, but there is never any real evidence to support it, eventually science will start treating it as if it's nonsense. Usually, science is right. Occasionally, it's wrong, and when *real* evidence comes up, it's a shock to the system, but almost invariably when it's looked into, science finds that there is something worth examining, and eventually the topic becomes "legitimate".
Note that this is distinct from the phenomenon of new ideas that are at first rejected by "mainstream" science because they conflict with the mainstream's view: Galileo's view of the universe, Wegener's theory of plate tectonics, and so on. In these cases, the theory is disdained because it conflicts with an established theory (theory in the scientific sense, not in the sense of, "My theory is that Oswald was an alien."). In the case of UFOs, there is no established theory -- the hypotheses are disdained because there isn't any strong evidence supporting them. UFOlogy is, so far, just an inchoate mass of eyewitness reports and blurry photos. Serious scientists disdain it because there's nothing that you can build a *real* scientific theory on.
I for one hope that some real evidence *is* found, so that all this harping can be put to rest, but I think it's important to understand that just because an idea is plausible, and there's no evidence to contradict it, does not mean that our time is well-spent researching it in great detail. Look at it this way: How long do all our scientists need to research UFOlogy (to the exclusion of other topics) before they can come to the conclusion that there's nothing to research, and can go back to other things? It's easy enough for someone to say, "Just a little longer, 'til we're REALLY sure," ad infinitum.
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Well, most efforts have been half-ess and given to parties that wanted to get out of the limelight on it. Here are some exploration suggestions from my too-easy-to-slashdot "pro-explorationist" website:
Even if you disagree with spending tax-money, at least if it was considered a "legitimate topic of study", research would be easier.
Re:A book recommendation for the submitter: (Score:3, Informative)
The evidence from perfectly sober, professional people like pilots and police officers is enough witness power to convict a million OJ's for a million years. Yet skeptics instantly reject it as "media-induced hallucinations". Oddly enough, the more knowledgeable ufo skeptics seem to think that most criminal witness testimony is bogus for similar reasons. Let them all of jail!
A whole lot of witness testimony is garbage. It is a pretty well known to be garbage in police / lawyer circles. It's not taht people are bad or stupid they are just very open to suggestion. Your sub-concious and your experiences effect you judement more than you think.
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While I agree with you that Sagan's "evidence" about these things is often suspect, I have to take issue with a few of your points...
About 200 years ago, rank and file scientists rejected the notion that "rocks fall from the sky". They called "falling rock" witnesses superstitious, drunk, etc.
First of all, can you provide a reference where anyone has ever rejected the notion of "rocks from the sky". I highly doubt this. First of all, "shooting stars" have been widely known since the beginning of time, and "rocks from the sky" very often leave physical evidence: A glowing piece of rock in a crater in the ground.
On the other hand, we have ZERO physical evidence of aliens, unless you want to count "crop circles" or other obvious hoaxes.
The evidence from perfectly sober, professional people like pilots and police officers is enough witness power to convict a million OJ's for a million years.
My understand is that it's often difficult to convict someone totally based on eyewitness accounts, simply because eyewitness accounts are the least reliable evidence.
Yet skeptics instantly reject it as "media-induced hallucinations".
I don't think the average skeptic dismisses UFO sightings as "hallucinations". It's much more likely that these people simply see something that they don't understand, but have perfectly reasonable explanations. Weather balloons, strange reflections, even the moon in daylight can fool people under the right circumstances.
I'm pretty much convinced that we are alone in the galaxy as far as intelligent life goes, so I tend toward the skeptical point of view. But the bottom line point is that the really is very little "hard" evidence to support that there is any "unsolved mystery".
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Thank you: (Score:2)
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Hear, hear. I, for example, think that I hatched from a divine egg; that the world is secretly ruled by the dairy industry; and that robots are stealing my luggage. I cannot tell you how much these irrational beliefs have enriched my life.
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Bonnybridge Aliens (Score:5, Informative)
I live only a few miles away from Bonnybridge, which is about half way between Scotland's two major cities of Edinburgh and Glasgow.
Clue 1. As there is only 50/60 miles or so between these two cities, you can work out that any UFO's would have a chance to be seen in either of these two places if the aliens were visiting Bonnybridge.
This obviously assumes there is *some* sort of horizontal trajectory in the UFO's travel plans, unless they just come straight out of the sky vertically to visit Bonnybridge, which seems unlikely.
No, I am afraid that I come bearing bad news. Bonnybridge is the UFO capital of whatever ONLY because of the activities of one local ex-councillor, Billy Buchanan.
Billy realised a few years ago that by telling news organs including the BBC etc. that he had video of 'mysterious lights in the sky' (see below) they would come and cover his story. Not surprisingly, most of these sightings came around election time.
He even managed to get some bampot who claimed to be an alien to come and speak at the local town hall! The event was a sell-out believe it or not.
Mysterious lights? The fact that Bonnybridge is only 5/6 miles away from the petrochemical refinery plant at Grangemouth, one of Europe's largest (visible from the Great Wall of China), would have nothing to do with mysterious lights, would it?
For those of you haven't seen the Bonnybridge videos - DO NOT DESPAIR. You can recreate your own by taking your video camera (old analogue works best here) outside on an overcast night (Bonnybridge is *always* overcast) and set it to macro so it is as out of focus as possible and point it at a dodgy street lamp. Flickering ones work best. Move the camera about a bit if you want that Blair Witch effect. Bonnybridge didn't have any sound effects, so maybe you could add these to go one better.
Good on you Billy! (Other small town mayors/politicos take note)
Cheers
Forrest.
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The point being that, yes, you can try to use logic against UFO nuts. Most of them wouldn't be able to follow you. The educated UFO nut is a rare breed, and they tend to educate their own way out of the hole.
That said, it's fun to read sites like that in much the same way it's fun to read the Darwin awards.
Re:A book recommendation for the submitter: (Score:5, Interesting)
We have to fight against:
Sadly, the human condition where only 5% of the population actually examines evidence, weighs the options, and picks the most logical choice that is proven true by experimentation and analysis is going to continue for a long time. Mainly because most people are too fucking lazy to think for themselves.
You mean... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:A book recommendation for the submitter: (Score:3, Insightful)
* People who believe that the creator of the universe chose _one_ single person in all of history to be his official representative, and that if you don't believe that, you're going to suffer for all eternity.
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Great - I love the idea that God pretty much hates everybody in the present/future, so we're pretty much left without any more useful information from the All-Knowing. (Though personally, my view of someone All-Knowing would at least have their "one person in all history" include a chapter on "weird fucking shit that doesn't exist yet, but will in 2000 years, like 'cloning', 'nuclear energy', and 'Britney Spears/Backstreet Boys sexual fantasies'.)
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Odd, for the life of me I can't think of one major world religion with that tenet. Most religions are not cessationist.
-l
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As opposed to the lengths that people will go to in order to remind everybody else within shouting distance that they do believe in all that "silly stuff?" I don't recall Sagan ever having conducted television services on Sunday morning, and I know that Stephen Jay Gould never rang my doorbell asking me for a few minutes of my time, and for the life of me I can't remember Bertrand Russell ever coming up to me on the street and asking me if I had let Reason into my heart.
Almost like they have to do it constantly to remind themselves.
Precisely.
If you don't think you'd like the book, don't read it. Pretty simple stuff.
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I was particularly convinced by the comment "Digital photo's can't be faked". Anyone who can say that and mean it *must* be from another planet.
-aiabx
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Here are the criteria for establishing whether you have seen an honest to goodness UFO.
1. Could you identify it?
2. Was it flying?
3. Was it an object?
If, indeed, you could not identify it, it was flying, and it was an object then, yes, it was a UFO (Unidentified Flying Object).
With the above criteria I would expect greater amounts of UFO sightings among the near-sighted as they/we are more prone to be unable to identify a flying object.
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"It should be noted, " remarked Dr. Von Vickersburg, "that digital photographs can not be faked, And these are digital photographs. I find their existence very disturbing!"
Digital photos can't be faked? WHAT!!!!!
Get in mah bellly.... (Score:2, Funny)
Look at the little green baby.
Ah tell you what. You can KEEP yer spaceship, you can keep yer photos, but ahh want the little green alien baby.
Ahh want mah green baby green baby green baby green baby
GET IN MAH BELLY!
Ahm higher on the food chain than you.. GET IN MAH BELLY...
Sorry. Hindsight tells me that the previous post is very silly. Please ignore.
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Sagan never said that UFOs don't exist. He just refuted the claim that they are alien spacecraft.
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UFOs, in the sense of an object in the sky that is not identified, certainly exist. I've seen one: a very bright, piercing yellow light a bit above the horizon (I'm guessing it was the sun's reflection from an aeroplane, since both the sun and the object were very low in the sky.)
Sagan doesn't deny such things happen. No-one can - there are many reports of them! I'm talking about UFOs as in the common meaning of "alien craft".
UFU (Score:5, Funny)
from the Dept. of Redundancy Dept. Dictionary
Unidentified Frying Object (Score:2)
Re:Unidentified Frying Object (Score:2)
Re:UFU (Score:2)
Flying
30 GOTO 10
Re:UFU (Score:2)
BOM Object.
LCD Display.
etc. etc. etc.
for more look here:
http://www.wordexplorations.com/pleonasm.html [wordexplorations.com]
My spelllign mistrake... (Score:2)
psycotropic effects of peated malt? (Score:2, Funny)
Highlander 2 anyone? (Score:3, Funny)
It's all the Alien tourists... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:It's all the Alien tourists... (Score:2)
I thought it was for the golf.
Although, the golf in the US much better than the golf in Scotland. Well, no one says Aliens have taste.
Re:It's all the Alien tourists... (Score:2)
Someone has to! (Score:5, Funny)
Can anyone say *autosuggestion?*
Sure: "Autosuggestion."
Re:Someone has to! (Score:2)
Re:Someone has to! (Score:2)
Sheep... (Score:2)
Quoth Groundskeeper Willie... (Score:5, Funny)
''Yeah, that was a pretty addictive video game.''-Chief Wiggum
''Video game?''-Groundskeeper Willie
Statistics lie... (Score:2)
Re:Statistics lie... (Score:2)
That was on purpose
Re:Statistics lie... (Score:2)
That was on purpose
No worries, my spelling is horrible. It's so bad, that I can count it as a foreign language for purpouses of college admissions.
Welcome to All Sightings UFO... (Score:2, Funny)
Oh, you mean extraterrestrials! (Score:5, Funny)
Strange creatures in strange garb, from a faraway place, speaking a strange language (the accent gets deep enough...) and with no apparent knowledge of human (or at least local) customs.
and they're always trying to 'probe' the local women (not to mention the sheep)!
what a coincidence.. (Score:2, Funny)
Possible Conclusions (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Possible Conclusions (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Possible Conclusions (Score:2)
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Re:We need a correlation study to verify.... (Score:2, Funny)
Galaxy Quest... (Score:3, Funny)
Ah Scotland... (Score:5, Funny)
There's a difference? (Score:2)
Don't knock haggis (Score:2)
Drunkards? (Score:2)
Hmm... Scottland, Italy, France - has anyone done a study to correlate the average number of UFOs sighted with the average number of alcoholic beverages imbibed?
Re:Drunkards? (Score:2)
Sorry, Ireland and Russia weren't mentioned in the article. However, there may be a place on the inebriation scale between comical (Irish) and dead (Russian) where UFO sightings would fit.
UFU (Score:2)
And from the sky shall rain forth the sheep or cows.
Scottland (Score:2)
Ok, relax... it's just a joke. Here in the U.S. we need to wear pads and have time-outs to play rugby, so what do ya want?
Loch Ness Monster flies a UFO (Score:2)
I'm sure we'll find out that there's been a bunch of sightings in the Himalayas as well due to Nessie picking up the Yeti in the UFO.
Loch Ness Monster kidnapped by UFO (Score:2)
I demand 15000 fags, 20 crates of haggis, a few bottles of single malt and that wee pritty lass you have sitting on you knee.
All ransom goods must be dropped of at the bottom of the big mars lake [slashdot.org] or you will never see nessie again.
Re: Loch Ness Monster kidnapped by UFO (Score:2)
Those ratios are slightly off!! (Score:2, Insightful)
-Ben
I've seen 'em! (Score:2)
Ah! the aliens must be studying complex carbon chain based beverages.
As a famous song's last line says, (Score:2)
but the aliens gave you first prize."
Oh dear (Score:5, Interesting)
I live not far from Bonnybridge. I wouldn't call it the arsehole of the universe, because arseholes have a use. Bonnybridge is a classic oversized-small-town, i.e. crammed full of disillusioned young people with nothing to do. UFO spotting is pretty much the only thing to do there of an evening that doesn't involve pointy implements or GTA (the Live Action version).
Note the military airlanes, note the undulating foggy roads, note that UFO sighting go up after firework displays. It's pretty much a local game now, with people playing along and making up more and more outrageous claims. And note also the ulterior commercial motive: a (dear god) theme park [dunoon-observer.co.uk].
I'm picturing the pitch now: "Come to Bonnybridge, home of surly teenagers and desparate hollow eyed single mothers. Taste the delights of warm Irn Bru [irn-bru.co.uk] and soggy chippies [bway.net]. A free stabbing with every ticket!"
Shudder. Nothing to see here. Move along. For your own good, move along.
Scotland == UFOs != Alcohol (Score:2)
Just wanted to make sure that was absolutely clear. We'll have no dispersions cast here!
Re:Scotland == UFOs != Alcohol (Score:2)
Surely you've never been to Scotland. Although there may be a curious pattern emerging here with people who have to sit next to us English their entire lives.
Alien preferences? (Score:2, Funny)
CMB
interesting statistics choices (Score:3, Funny)
scot 2: 'Bloody hell Angus, I think that's 0.004 of a UFO!!'
that would be quite obvious for anyone (Score:2)
and now for the bonus question:
which nation's people are the worst tennis players in theuniverse. The answer will appear on your tv screen. If you do not want to see the answer please turn your tv upside down.
Re:that would be quite obvious for anyone (Score:2)
They're just feeding Nessie. (Score:2)
UFOs have already been seen elsewhere in Scotland and could help explain how prehistoric creatures like the Loch Ness Monster have managed to survive for thousands of years.
So obviously aliens abducted Nessie(s) thousands of years ago and because their planet is thousands of light years away (and their UFOs travel at light speed) it only relatively recently returned her to the lock. This also means that Nessie didn't age because she was traveling at light speed.
I'm also sure that the reason there are so many UFO sighting in Scotland is because everytime some research expeditions sets out to try and find Nessie the aliens come back and help her hide. If people would just stop trying to find Nessie there wouldn't be any where near as many UFO sightings in Scotland.
A Surprise? Hardly. (Score:2)
Actually... (Score:3, Funny)
But since I find it hard to buy that aliens go for an interstellar joyride in Scotland all the time, this means it's obviously the supersecret british skunkworks aerospace base causing these sightings. They have stuff 60 yrs ahead of anything we have, after all. (*ROFLMAO*)
What about werewolves? (Score:2)
Scotch? as in Whisky? (Score:2)
It is mentioned that the number is three times larger than in France. That is to be expected, since whisky has three to four times more alcohol in it than the equivalent quantity of wine. The same rationale may be used for Italy, also an established wine producer.
(Yes, France makes cognac and Italy makes grappa, but these are mostly export products ;) )
Does anyone know what the number of UFO sightings is like in Lynchburg, Tennessee?
One Word: (Score:2)
Three words: (Score:2)
HEEAD! SPACESHIP! NOW! (Score:2)
"Looka that great heead! It's a virtual planitoid, 'tis! Got its own weather system!"
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They mean to win Wimbledon! (Score:2)
Monty Python (Score:2)
"They" have come to purchase kilts (Score:2)
Of course this was all documented earlier by Monty Python [montypython.net]
Negra Modelo will solve the problem. (Score:2)
That just means they drink too much Guinness in Scotland.
They should drink Negra Modelo instead. Then, maybe the aliens would stop by and have some with them, and they'd get to talk to the aliens and figure out where the hell they're from. But aliens obviously don't like Guinness. Oooooooooh well.
Obligatory Bill Hicks Quotes (Score:3, Funny)
Sceptical Claim (Score:4, Funny)
Plausible explanation? (Score:3, Insightful)
1.) It can 'levitate' and pass through some solids.
2.) It tends to lose mass as the plasma breaks down, causing it to rise into the air before disintegrating or occasionally bursting with a loud pop.
3.) It often accelerates at an extremely high rate, likely due to electromagnetic fields. This typically occurs near the end of the plasma's 'life' and often after rising back into the air.
4.) It is often attracted to nearby metal objects and has been known to follow automobiles and perhaps airplanes.
5.) The plasma, depending on its makeup, often releases noxious gasses readily identifyable by their odor or color. Some of these gasses cause dizzyness, hallucinations, and loss of consciousness at high enough concentrations.
6.) It seems to form most often in flat terrain. (such as farmland!) Large formations may be of sufficient temperature to burn away grass or crops after descending.
7.) It sometimes rotates visibly on an axis.
8.) It usually emits a high pitched or even wavering sound.
Sound anything like the typical UFO encounter? I'd say so. Granted, many distant sightings are probably just aircraft or weather balloons. So sorry to burst your bubble X-Files fans. The truth IS out there but it's not that exciting.
Re:That just the locals (Score:2)
And the next person on here to say "Scotch" rather than "Whisky" is getting my toe up their arse, as we say in Scotland
It's like GNU (Score:5, Funny)
Re:UFO != Aliens (Score:2, Informative)
I live about 30 miles from Bonnybridge - there are three major airports near by (Glasgow, Prestwick and Edinburgh) - a number of chemical works, Helicopters servicing remote places/coastguard etc. Some interesting atmospheric effects - you get some great skies, The chemical plants often have flares too.
So on the whole - a lot of stuff happens in the sky - I've seen stuff thats had me guessing for a while (until a little bit of investigation reveals the answer). To someone who is looking for UFO's it must be heaven..
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